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Template:Templatename —Preceding unsigned comment added by Boomgaylove (talk • contribs) 15:54, 18 February 2008

Refinary is capitalized its part of a proper name of the "Chevron"—"R"efineary

Template:RFC errorTemplate:RFC error its not a Chevron refinary in Richmond its the Richmond Chevron Refinary, there's only one. its the name of the place. its JFK High School not JFK high school.Cholga^talK! 03:02, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

First of all, please learn to spell if you're going to continue the conceit of editing an encyclopedia; it's refinery, not "refinary".

Second of all, it is not capitalized. It is not a part of the name of the facility; it is simply a refinery that happens to be owned and run by the Chevron Corp. (not ChevronTexaco, by the way; they dropped that name several years ago). +ILike2BeAnonymous 03:07, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

dude it has a name; that arguement is ludacrous.Cholga^talK! 03:11, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

Whatever. As usual, you're arguing for something that's dead wrong. Learn how to write. +ILike2BeAnonymous 03:20, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

learn some manners. and its a proper noun, a name. its capitalized.Cholga^talK! 03:22, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

"Refinery" is a proper noun??? +ILike2BeAnonymous 03:29, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

no it's not, but Chevron Richmond Refinary isCholga^talK! 03:38, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

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As usual, you are wrong, and I can prove it. Here's a sampling of (mostly) news articles that mention this very refinery (it's not as if they're hard to find or anything, as the facility is constantly causing problems of one kind or another):

• A CBS 5 story: "A flare-up at Chevron's Richmond refinery on Monday may have released potentially toxic chemicals into the air ...".
• An article from SF Gate: "... in view of ferryboat traffic and the Chevron refinery."
• Another SF Gate story: "Chevron's Richmond refinery produces more than 225,000 barrels per day ..."
• Another SF Gate story: "Contra Costa County officials are blaming glitches in the emergency alert system for a delay of more than an hour between the time a fire broke out at the Chevron refinery this morning ..."

Even Chevron's own press releases sometimes don't capitalize the name, like this one: "The Chevron Richmond refinery, which employs more than 1,450 employees and more than 100 contractors, is one of the largest refineries on the West Coast with a 240,000 barrel-per-day capacity."

So it should not be capitalized. Just because Chevron capitalizes it in (most of) their own press releases does not make it correct here. +ILike2BeAnonymous 07:18, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

What matters is what Chevron calls it. An obscure miscapitalization is obviously a typographical error.Ah0000000ga (talk) 07:43, 21 December 2007 (UTC) it should be capitolized.Umiumitooti (talk) 01:06, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

• Words like sometimes, obviously point out that the lower case spelling is an anomaly. Furthermore, how some newspapers spell it is irrelevant to wikipedia conventions. What matters is how, Chevron spells it. Chevron almost always spells it in the upper case. It is a place name, a particular unique place, a name, a PROPER NOUN, and proper nouns are capitalized. Chevrons's own history page on the refinary are of particular importance, since such a page would make sure to detailedly spell it correctly. Here are various press releases and official documents regarding the facility.

Hi. Just popping in from the Language Reference Desk. Someone here seems to think that we over there know all about capitalization, and some of us actually do. I hope I'm one of them. First off, it doesn't matter what anybody else does, including Chevron itself. Here at Wikipedia we have to go by the Manual of Style. The first line on the MoS page about capitalization says it all: "Wikipedia follows a conservative usage style for capitalization (unnecessary capitalization is avoided)." There is nothing on that page that justifies capitalizing "refinery". If you ask me, though, capitalization is the lesser issue with that sentence. "The Chevron Richmond refinery" is puzzling to the reader. It's not immediately apparent what Chevron we're talking about, or whether there isn't a "Chevron Richmond" we should have known about. If I came in cold to copyedit, I would change it to "Chevron Corporation's Richmond refinery is just east of the range." --Milkbreath (talk) 21:56, 18 February 2008 (UTC)