Talk:Mario Kart

WiFi Hacking

I am not a particularly good writer, so I'll just provide the ground information and leave the actual editting of the article to someone better suited than I.

The first known instance of Nintendo's DS games being hacked online occured in mid-December, 2005 by a hacker from GSCentral (http://www.gscentral.org) known as Parasyte. The hack allows several courses that were previously available off-line only to be played on-line. These courses include Banshee Boardwalk and Airship Fortress. Rumors abound about supposed side-effects of playing online with Parasyte, including game data being erased, the game crashing, and massive losses being added to the user's record. However all these claims have been proven to be false. Despite this, the rumors still spread.

Links: http://gscentral.org/bb/viewtopic.php?t=759 Hacking discussion begins on page 3; http://gscentral.org/bb/viewtopic.php?t=764 Low quality video of hacked course being played online: http://mmii.info/misc/ticktockclockwifi.avi

Too many tracks?

The "tracks" section of the article was made to give information about re-occuring tracks in the Mario Kart series, such as Rainbow Road and Bowser Castle. Now, with twelve track-types listed, I think the list is getting too long. The purpose of the section is not to list every Mario Kart track-type that ever existed. I intend to remove some, if anyone disagrees discuss here. The- 16:52, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

I have now removed "Dirt-road tracks", "Jungles" and "Mud tracks". If anyone disagrees discuss here. The- 17:11, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

While I'm fine with the removal of Dirt Road and Mud Tracks, there are enough instances of Jungle Tracks (in 4 of the games if IIRC) for it to be mentionable. --ACE Spark 15:44, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

I would consider cutting the "recurring tracks" down to Circuits, Bowser Castles and Rainbow Road, because these tracks tend to have the greatest game influence (the first or last track in GP's). --MaskedSheik 18:10, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

MK64

The Mario Kart 64 section needs cleanup. 68.194.16.14 23:41, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

• Balloons are not popped. They are simply detached from the kart.

There must be a discussion about the different abilities of the characters. Heavyweights such as Wario, Donkey Kong, and Bowser are less maneuverable and accelerate more slowly, but what they lack there they make up for in body mass. These characters, and even yoshi and mario, can "body" (collide with) smaller characters and take away balloons that way, no weapon needed. I would also like to see a mention of the welfare system in the races. If you are in last place you are likely to get powerful items such as lightning or triple red shells, but in first you would not get such items. The item is truly given randomly only in battle mode. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Rarichter (talk • contribs).

Critical Acclaim

As of 23 May 2006, the article states, "To this date, gamers consider these games inferior to the Mario Kart titles, Diddy Kong Racing being the only title to gain a similar volume of critical acclaim in addition to a large fanbase."

Is this really correct? I'd certainly argue that Crash Team Racing has also received similar critical acclaim to the Mario Kart series. For instance, video game review aggregator GameRankings.com has Crash Team Racing with an average review score of 92% [1]. , which is comparable to Mario Kart DS's 92% [2] , Mario Kart Super Circuit's 92% [3] , Mario Kart Double Dash's 87% [4] , and Super Mario Kart's 93% [5] .

On another review aggregator, Metacritic, Crash Team Racing has a score of 88 [6] , fairly similar to Double Dash's 87 [7] , Mario Kart DS's 92 [8] , Mario Kart 64's 83 [9] , and Super Circuit's 93 [10].

Is it appropriate to say, then, that Diddy Kong Racing is the only kart racing to gain critical acclaim similar to the Mario Kart series? Kuribosshoe 05:21, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

Wait, does half of this stuff actually need to be in the article?

Just to take a few examples, items and battle modes are explained in the individual game articles as well as here. Does anyone else think that this article should be about Mario Kart in general rather than an explanation of every feature in every game? -- Steel 20:58, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

I agree. The article should talk about the conception of the game series, from where the idea was picked, the commercial achievements, the storyline of the different games, the technological advances between each other, why the items were chosen, etc. In other words, this article is about the series, not the games, thus information found in the other articles should be kept in those articles. -- ReyBrujo 03:22, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

Having being the one to suggest these changes, it's a bit annoying having to ask this, but where would we find that kind of information? I guess commercial achievements wouldn't be too hard to find, but the rest (if it is indeed available on the web) would be buried under hundreds of Mario Kart DS fansites and the like. -- Steel 23:42, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

That is the hard part of writing articles. For one side, we have information that everybody knows. For the other, we have detailed information that is not known. I believe every Nintendo fan knows what is Mario Kart about, but very few know how was that Miyamoto (or the original designer) came with this idea. Articles should have varied information, and cover as much about the topic as possible. Just ask yourself a question: what the casual reader needs to know? That is the basic information for the article. And the next question, what a knowledgeable reader needs to know? That is the expanded information, which is usually harder to come by. -- ReyBrujo 01:42, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

Mario Kart Arcade GP 2

According to http://themushroomkingdom.net/news.shtml#9800, this game has been recently anounced. Waluigi and a character from the Tamagotchi series will be new characters to the series. A flyer was released to confirm the game, although no release date has been anounced. Should I add this? User:MariofanDS,2:35, 17 October 2006.

Racing to the Moon

What is Mario Kart: Racing to the Moon? I do not see any sources indicating it actually exists, and a quick yahoo and google search brought up nothing.

141.153.175.50 21:30, 18 February 2007 (UTC) February 18th, 2007

It's either a hack, or it doesn't exist75.67.128.65 23:37, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

Do MKDS retro tracks count?

I notice a the tracks section seems to count MKDS retro tracks as part as MKDS. For example, untill a few minutes ago, it said that MKDS has two snow tracks, but of course it only has one, Frappe Snowland is an MK64 track not an MKDS track. They are not unique to MKDS, they are borrowed from retro games. Furthermore, the retro tracks in MKSC are not counted, which means the MKDS retro tracks shouldn't be counted either. Why should the MKDS retro tracks count but not the MKSC retro tracks, they are both tracks that are borrowed from previous MK games, what's the differece? If the MKDS retro tracks are added back in, then the MKSC tracks must also be added in. I think they shouldn't be put in, as they are not unique to the game they are borrowed from previous games, and I will revert any unexplained attempts to put them back in. The- 18:40, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

Where the hell did you get the idea that if the track is not unique to the game that it shouldn't be included? if it's in the game it should be listed what you're saying is to remove the name of a track that is in the game from the games list of tracks? not to smart...SuperWiki5 23:06, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

You do realize that you're replying to a four-month-old comment, right? --Stratadrake 01:55, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

yeah i do, and your point?SuperWiki5 13:32, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

Only that it hasn't been discussed in a long time, so it isn't a point of any real dispute. --Stratadrake 00:08, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

External links

I notice two pages being added constantly: www.mariokart64.com (Mario Kart World Record Page) and wrvids.com/Mario%20Kart/ (Time Trials videos for every Mario Kart game). I don't think these are necessary, as nobody cares what who are the fastest ones. The first one has most of its content about Mario Kart 64, and should be put there if anywhere. The second is just a directory, not even a web page to check. Considering that these videos can be considered copyright violation (the content is copyrighted by Nintendo), it should not be linked at all. -- ReyBrujo 15:18, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

Mariokart64.com is widely considered to be the ultimate authority on everything related to Mario Kart time trials, and time trials is an important part of Mario Kart. Whether you're looking for world records, world rankings, strategies, shortcuts, news, history, statistics, or technical information, mariokart64.com has been the best source of information by far for many years. The website contains a very large amount of information that many people are interested in and that can't be found anywhere else. The website is non-profit with 0 advertisements, updated frequently, and run by people who are very knowledgeable about Mario Kart.

Wrvids.com (also non-profit) is by far the largest online collection of Mario Kart videos, so it belongs in the Mario Kart article for the same reason that SDA (largest collection of speedruns) belongs in the speedrun article. The videos are not copyright violations because they're fair use. Mjf314 10:24, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Waluigi?

is in the game by nds? wow, i didnt know that, i have the game and he's not available.. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 200.45.111.69 (talk) 13:09, 8 April 2007 (UTC).

You mean Mario Kart DS? You have to unlock him in that. Hardcore gamer 48 10:14, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

He's available after finishing lightning cup in 100ccm;-).

"Recurring tracks" -- listcruft?

Looking through the article, I noticed this section. Now, I'd be fine with keeping that part of the article, had it not been so long. Really, the only things that should be mentioned are the Bowser tracks, Rainbow Road tracks and possibly the Circuits in a brief paragraph or two. Maybe all the recurring themes could be mentioned, provided not all the track names are mentioned and there really is more than just one kind of these raceways. The fact that "Clocks" (which I promptly removed, as it only mentions one track) and "Fairground" (which really only consists of one track listed twice) made it in makes me think it's just meant to be a section where all the raceways in the Mario Kart series are listed. I won't do any heavy editting just yet; I'd like to hear others opinions on the matter first. ^_^ Hardcore gamer 48 10:25, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

Well, in my opinion, the name speaks for itself. It should be a section on the most recurring themes in the games. I think the Bowser Castles, Beaches (it does appear frequently, right? I know at least each console game had one), Circuits, and Rainbow Roads should be the only things mentioned, unless there is another high frequency theme that I am forgetting. --LuigiManiac 12:39, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

That sounds fair enough. Also, the "haunted" levels appeared in each game, I believe. Hardcore gamer 48 09:18, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

Why did snow tracks get removed? There's been one of those in every game too. The recurring track themes seem notable but there ARE a lot of them... maybe a seperate article should be used? I dunno. Jez MM (talk) 01:55, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

Sixteen-way gameplay?

Have there actually been any sixteen-way mario kart games? --Muzer 19:26, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

which console allows 16-way, i know on ds you can have 8 players 12v34v56v78 via lan 211.26.46.174 08:37, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

Simple question

When was simply Mario Kart released? 124.181.54.218 12:32, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

See Super Mario Kart, the original SNES game. --Stratadrake 01:54, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

Sherbet land

Why are there two sherbet lands? (one in MK64 and the other in MKDD) --82.207.191.139 18:13, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

                                                                                  Well im not pertty sure why nintendo did that all is known that there both different courses --     The luigi kart assasions 9:50, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

Mario Kart Mario Kart?

In the table of playable drivers there is Mario Kart Mario Kart as header (all players are playable). What is Mario Kart Mario Kart?

Revert fodder. :) --Stratadrake 16:54, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

Anyway, Kirby isn't playable in SMK or MKDD. --82.207.190.166 20:40, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

Color?

The names look better in different colors. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Javier12345 (talk • contribs) 21:12, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

Are you saying that the coloring was purely decorative? I don't know about everyone else, but for me it made reading more difficult. Dancter 21:19, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

Even more drivers?

Are Daisy, Toadette and Bowser jr. (and the Pac-Man family) really available in MKWii? --82.207.190.32 09:34, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

• Maybe but it's not known yet. There was some internet gossip that they might be available but that was purely based on box art from MK Arcade. MLA 12:48, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Someone put Sonic the Hedgehog, Lanky Kong, Neo Metal Sonic, Stanley the Talking Fish, Vector the Crocodile. I assume this is complete bs? 66.169.188.254 22:21, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

You assume correct. This is going to keep happening, unfortunately, unless we get some form of protection on this article. = / Hardcore gamer 48 03:59, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

Let's limit the playable characters to only those easily confirmed in official screenshots, trailers, etc. In other words...
IGN screenshots prominently show:

• Bowser
• Mario
• Peach
• Wario
• Waluigi

IGN's vid of the E3 announcement shows:

• Baby Mario
• Luigi
• Toad
• Yoshi

But somebody lend me a hand here, my PC's onboard video sucks and can't even manage 1 sec/frame on the 640x480 vid. --Stratadrake 22:08, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

Will we need protection for this article?

It seems like random IP addresses are coming on here lately and stuffing around with the Playable Characters table. I know that this isn't an isolated problem, but this is just going to keep on happening if something isn't done (considering people are actually finding the new Mario Kart to be exciting, and will want to put in the characters they want in the game). I won't request protection yet, in case others don't agree with me. Hardcore gamer 48 13:22, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

We need protection in this page. Many random IP adresses are changing all. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Javier12345 (talk • contribs) 15:32, August 12, 2007 (UTC)

Protect this, yes. The vandalism is effecting other Wikis, like MarioWiki, and it is causing confusion among many Users. Poke DP 11:51, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

Requesting now. --Stratadrake 04:44, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

RFP verdict was 'no' on account of constructive edits by anons. --Stratadrake 00:50, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

Table formatting?

Since many characters in the series are exclusive to one or two games (especially the Namco exclusives), approximately half of this table is filled with N. I find this distracting, so I'm going to ask if the table will look better if we just leave those spaces blank rather than specifically saying "no". After all, there's Y for every character who does appear in a game, "?" for unknown possibilities in MKW , so anything else is a "no" by default.

Please compare the two and tell me what you guys think:

• http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Mario_Kart_%28series%29&oldid=152838653
• http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Mario_Kart_%28series%29&oldid=152837890

--Stratadrake 03:22, 22 August 2007 (UTC) i think u guys should put the pacman people at the botom also i removed donkey kong jr cuz dk jr is the same person as donkey kong with the tie —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.146.64.181 (talk) 02:59, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

Stop adding characters!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Daisy, Baby Luigi and Koopa Troopa have not been confirmed so dont add them!!!!!!! (As if anyone would care) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.163.39.74 (talk) 02:19, 28 September 2007 (UTC) Now Koopa Troopa and Baby Luigi are confirmed, but not Daisy —Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.163.39.74 (talk) 23:58, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

Question

In the table the section "Recurring tracks" is located on the left, with a blank gray space on the right. Is it supposed to like this, is is my browser, or is it a coding mistake?

Thanks, Codelyoko193 (T/C) 21:48, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

Fixed. Thanks, Codelyoko193 (T/C) 23:48, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

Legacy Section?

Should there be a Legacy section here as Mario Kart inspired many racing games from different franchises? Gamer3004 16:08, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Pac-Man

I caught a screenshot of many characters in Mario Kart Wii and Pac-Man was one of them. This is unconfirmed, but something you guys should look into. -TheDenzel —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.17.49.6 (talk) 04:57, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

New Characters

Has there been any new character confirmed?201.163.39.74 (talk) 02:25, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

Waluigi

Ia Waluigi from the Wario series or from the Mario series, in Super Smash Bros. Brawl he is marked as being from the Mario series.?201.163.39.74 (talk)

Removal of Mario Kart GP games

I belive that the 2 Mario Kart GP game should be rmoved from anything listing the games in the Mario Kart series. Nintendo was no involved, they are arcade games, and they have nothing to do wiht the Mario Kart series. The articles should remain, but in, say, the list of characters in Mario Kart games, the Mario Kart GP characters should be removed. Characters such as the tomagatchi guy, Pac-Man, and Mrs. Pac-Man.Igglybuff63 (talk) 01:37, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

Maybe not removed, but I agree they have nothing to do with the Mario Kart Series.201.163.39.74 (talk) 18:46, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

I think we should make a seperate table for the characters, and make a seperate article for the GP games, not including them the regular mario kart article. we could put the other table in the GP article.Igglybuff63 (talk) 19:19, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

Thats a good idea.201.163.39.74 (talk) 02:05, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

I dont have time on my hands to do thi, though. it would be great if someone else could change it. Igglybuff63 (talk) 23:54, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

Donkey Kong Jr.

I just added this character back to the character list. The excuse that he and DK are the same characters doesn't work here. If we go by this logic, then Baby Mario and Baby Luigi should be removed as well. Axemblue4 (talk)

but the thing is that they showed is dk jr grew up...so unless its dk AND dk jr then leave it alone  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.146.64.181 (talk) 03:02, 7 February 2008 (UTC) 

No, just no. They never showed DK Jr. growing up. Their names are different, and their appearances are different. And it has never been confirmed in-game that they are the same. What logic are you going by? Axemblue4 (talk)

Boo in Mario Kart: Double Dash?

As far as I know Boo is not a playable character in Mario Kart: Double Dash. I own the game and am pretty sure that Boo is just an item. King Boo on the other hand is a playable character in the game but is a completely different character and is also listed here. If I am correct, this would also change the Mario Kart Wii page which says "Making his second playable appearance in the Mario Kart series is Boo". —bse3 (talk • contribs • count • logs) 04:39, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

I too am an owner of Mario Kart: Double Dash!! and have unlocked everything in the game. It is safe to say that Boo is not playable. He is only in the game as an item. Sure, King Boo is playable, but he is an entirely different character. I noticed that Boo being in MK:DD!! was added to this page by an anonymous user, so it was most likely vandalism that was taken too far, when it was added to the Mario Kart Wii page. I'll take the opprotunity now and correct both pages. Volker89 (talk) 20:07, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. It's good to see I'm not going crazy. —bse3 (talk • contribs • count • logs) 18:56, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

Baby Boo

I just deleted him. Also, there's ALOT of characters listed as YES for MKW when there's NO proof of their appaerance!SLJCOAAATR 1 (talk) 23:47, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

Vandals

Every time i turn around people are adding characters like Baby Boo, Sonic, Toadsworth, etc. for MKW. And EVERY character will be checked as yes! Can we please semi-protect the article?SLJCOAAATR 1 (talk) 16:11, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

Removing Pac-Man from Mario Kart Wii

Someone put a checkmark for Pac-Man in MKWii.... I am assuming this is just vandalism in light of some of the comments here and since I can find absolutely no proof of it.