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If the Hashashin really had attempted to convert to Christianity, it was selfish and hypocritical of the Knights Templar if they had prevented them from doing so. [[User:Anglius|Anglius]] |
If the Hashashin really had attempted to convert to Christianity, it was selfish and hypocritical of the Knights Templar if they had prevented them from doing so. [[User:Anglius|Anglius]] |
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"However, assassination and terror are often major components of Arab and Israeli politics." |
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This is a strange mention. Whether or not assassination is universally employed to achieve political goals is arguable insofar as we define "universally". |
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Political terrorism is also not exclusive to Middle Eastern politics. Off of the top of my head, in Russia, Ireland/Great Britain, Indonesia, South Asia, Japan, many states in Africa, France, Germany, and Italy, terrorism has played a significant role in political struggles. It seems this statement is too topical. Yes, Middle Eastern terrorism is an issue of the day, but this formulation is inaccurate. |
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Revision as of 00:00, 21 July 2005
Would like to remove
I would like to remove the following text--or radically edit it:
- The power of the Hashshashin was destroyed by the Mongol warlord Hulagu Khan, but several smaller sects remain to this day, such as the sect led by the Aga Khan.
Are we saying that the group that accepts Aga Khan are "Hashashin"? Or followers of Hasan Ibn Sabah, even?67.119.12.107 23:40, 9 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Exhaustive
Informative and lively account of an interesting people
Even more exhaustive
Addressed 67.119.12.107's concerns. Added much interesting history, many wikilinks, carefully revised original text somewhat for style and consistancy. Started to introduce sources (The Crusades Through Arab Eyes by Amin Maalouf is highly recommended). Well done to whoever wrote the original body.
FYI
FYI In the next few days I'm going to completely restructure this article (as well as many of the Ismaili articles on Wikipedia). I've been studing the Ismailies (in particular the Nizariyyah) for a very long time, and I've got a lot of information to add to this article.
FYI, the best resources for the Nizari Ismailies is Farhad Daftary's "The Isma'ilies, Their History and Doctrines", and Bernard Lewis' "The Assasins" if you have any comments, feel free to add them.--Venerable Bede 03:15, 10 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Also check out
I also suggest checking out Farhad Daftary's "The Assassin Legends: Myths of the Ismailies"
Attempted Conversion
If the Hashashin really had attempted to convert to Christianity, it was selfish and hypocritical of the Knights Templar if they had prevented them from doing so. Anglius
"However, assassination and terror are often major components of Arab and Israeli politics."
This is a strange mention. Whether or not assassination is universally employed to achieve political goals is arguable insofar as we define "universally".
Political terrorism is also not exclusive to Middle Eastern politics. Off of the top of my head, in Russia, Ireland/Great Britain, Indonesia, South Asia, Japan, many states in Africa, France, Germany, and Italy, terrorism has played a significant role in political struggles. It seems this statement is too topical. Yes, Middle Eastern terrorism is an issue of the day, but this formulation is inaccurate.