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Is it possible to make two tables float, one on right, one on left, on the same line? such as on the main page? How? <font face="terminal">[[User:Flaminglawyer|F]]-[[User talk:Flaminglawyer|L]]-[[Special:Contributions/Flaminglawyer|c]]</font> 23:22, 19 February 2008 (UTC) |
Is it possible to make two tables float, one on right, one on left, on the same line? such as on the main page? How? <font face="terminal">[[User:Flaminglawyer|F]]-[[User talk:Flaminglawyer|L]]-[[Special:Contributions/Flaminglawyer|c]]</font> 23:22, 19 February 2008 (UTC) |
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I added a chunk of stuff I have about the history of the london to brighton run. It got deleted. Was I putting it in the wrong place. Also I had difficulty adding a figure in the middle of the text. What should I do. |
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February 15
USING PROMOTIONAL/ENTERTAINMENT PHOTOS FROM 1940'S
I have several photos from the 1940's (a couple are from the early 1950's, prior to 1953) for illustrating my wikipedia entry, "Dixie Roberts", which i am currently working on. This is my first entry, i am VERY new at this.
The photos I have are all promotional photos that belong to Miss Roberts, she gave them to me to use for this purpose. Most of the images are just of her. However, one image is a promotional photo for the 1943 Ziegfeld Follies and shows 4 dancers: Miss Roberts, Penny Edwards, Mary Ganley and Pat Hall. The front of the photo has a logo on it, "Murray Korman, NY", but no copyright insignia. I would love to be able to post this one, especially, because of its historical value!
Some of the other photos are stamped on the back, such as"AL. HAUSER PHOTOS, HOTEL ABBEY - 149 W.51 ST., N.Y. CIrcle 6-9400"; or "Bruno's of Hollywood, Thanks for credit" including addresses in NYC and Boston. One of the Bruno's photos has a charming stamp on the back, it says "PLEASE CREDIT BRUNO OF HOLLYWOOD, WE MAY BE ABLE TO RETURN THE COURTESY SOMETIME."
One photo i would like to use has the following stamp on the back: FOTO FERNANDEZ, ARZ. MERINA No. 51, CIUDAD TRUJILLO."
I am reasonably sure that I can use these photos, I am just not sure how to catagorize them.
Thank you for any help you can give me! —Preceding unsigned comment added by MimiBelle (talk • contribs) 01:02, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
- You are entering a nightmare. This is NOT a situation caused by Wikipedia. Current copyright law in the US (where the Wikipedia servers reside) is consistent with the Berne convention on copyright: copyrights belong to the photographer and the copyright exists automatically, with no need for formal registration. For works published in the US prior to about 1987 and never formally registered, the work may have fallen into the public domain, but I have not a clue as to how you can prove that. Works published in the US prior to 1923 are clearly in the public domain. The situation is an evil nasty mess that we must live with. Good luck. -Arch dude (talk) 02:40, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
Click Template
In addition to what I'm doing on Wikipedia, I am working on another Wiki using the Media Wiki platform. I use the Template:Click here but would also like to use it there. Is there a way to export this template to the other Wiki? —Preceding unsigned comment added by CarverM (talk • contribs) 03:48, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
- Sure, just copy the template source. Make sure you have the m:ParserFunctions extension installed, though. Good luck! Soxred93 | talk count bot 03:54, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
- mw:Extension:ImageMap is better. Prodego talk 03:59, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
- In case you didn't know, Prodego, {{Click}} uses Imagemap now. That reminds me, CarverM. You need Imagemap installed as well as Parserfunctions. Soxred93 | talk count bot 04:08, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
- Ah, I did not, thanks for telling me. Prodego talk 21:26, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
- In case you didn't know, Prodego, {{Click}} uses Imagemap now. That reminds me, CarverM. You need Imagemap installed as well as Parserfunctions. Soxred93 | talk count bot 04:08, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
- mw:Extension:ImageMap is better. Prodego talk 03:59, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
Wikicharts
Any word on when it will be working or why it has not been working since late January? –thedemonhog talk • edits 03:50, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
- The error message I get (Couldn't select DB: Unknown database 'u_leon_wikistats_p') seems that the database for the tool is down. Master of Puppets Call me MoP!☺ 03:52, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
- Everything that uses the toolserver is down. :-( I hope they get it fixed soon. • Anakin (talk) 01:27, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
Log in / 'remember me' problems
I've just today begun experiencing problems being kept 'logged in' to wikipedia. It seems that whenever I close my browser now, and then open it again and navigate to wikipedia, I've been logged out, and I have never encountered this before. I keep the 'remember me' box checked at log-in, and although I have my browser (Firefox) clear my browsing history and cache upon exit, it retains my cookies, which has kept me logged in to wikipedia previously. Does anyone know what is happening with my account being logged out? Any help is appreciated. Thanks. -albrozdude (talk) 05:55, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
- In firefox under tools, options, security, do you have remember passwords checked off? Wisdom89 (T / C) 06:08, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
- No, I have that checked as well. The strange thing is that this started happening suddenly although I haven't changed any settings on my end. -albrozdude (talk) 13:38, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
- Happening to me too, on IE6, starting this morning. Must be a bug. --barneca (talk) 13:46, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
- I noticed that it happened to me at work just now after upgrading Firefox to the latest version. Did you recently do this? Wisdom89 (T / C) 19:21, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
- Happening to me for Firefox and IE7. Only if I type "en.wikipedia.org" into the address bar though. If I click on a link in my history, it shows I'm logged in. The only exception to this so far I've found is if I click on the Main Page in my history. -- Matthew | talk | Contribs 19:23, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
- This is happening to me also. I'm using Firefox 2.0.0.12 and Windows XP. I haven't upgraded the browser lately and I haven't changed any settings. — Mudwater 21:09, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
- Yeah, I've changed nothing (no browser upgrades, setting changes). It just started yesterday for me, completely out of the blue. -albrozdude (talk) 21:31, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
- Same here, Firefox 2.0.0.12 also, tried a number of things such as clearing history and deleting cookies. Glad I'm not the only one getting this. --Zikar (talk) 16:57, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
- Has anyone figured out the problem yet? It happens to me using XP and any browser. Fyunck(click) (talk) 08:22, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
- Me too... Vista/IE7, other wiki sites I've been using haven't had this issue, either. --Resplendent (talk) 21:34, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
- My firefox and vista don't log me in automatically but if I click log in/create account it logs me in before I have to do anything. Thanks, George D. Watson (Dendodge).TalkHelp and assistance 13:03, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
Regarding my website
I notice that my research (non commercial) website has been blacklisted. I am totally confounded by this and request an explanation. I am considered an expert in the field of Proprioceptive Stimulation (Researcher for 37 years, Research Fellow at the prestigious facility associated with the Italian Ministry of Health)- See Feedback from Other Experts http://www.rothbartsite.com/Feedback.html
Waiting your reply.
Prof/Dr Brian A Rothbart —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.14.11.72 (talk) 06:52, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
- Please see the external links guidelines for more information; generally, sources should be reliable. Also, please see the conflict of interest policy to avoid having a conflict of interest. Cheers, Master of Puppets Call me MoP!☺ 07:06, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
- I think the main issue here might be WP:COI since you are the author of the external site, which if you read WP:EL are links to be avoided. However, it seems the user's work has been published in peer reviewed journals, so this is a tough one to field. MoP, is there a way that you can request white listing so it could be used as a cite? Wisdom89 (T / C) 07:35, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
I found my research website - www.rothbartsfoot.info placed on the blacklist. How can I request that it be removed from this list?
- I don't understand: which site has been blacklisted? Obviously not the one you link to above. --teb728 t c 08:19, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
- I'm confused, too. Professor Rothbart, can you tell us why you think your site has been blacklisted? It seems possible that someone has misinformed you. AndyJones (talk) 08:44, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
- Maybe you don't know what blacklisting means. See m:Spam blacklist/About and Wikipedia:Spam blacklist. A blacklisted url cannot be saved so http://www.rothbartsite.com is clearly not blacklisted. Is your complaint merely that links to the site have been removed after they were added? PrimeHunter (talk) 12:03, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
- I found it on a revertlist for a new bot at User:XLinkBot/RevertList. It's sort of a limited blacklist which doesn't prevent saving like the real blacklist. I don't know how it got there. Maybe somebody added many inappropriate links to the site. You can request removal at User talk:XLinkBot/RevertList. Note that a listing only causes a revert in some circumstances. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:31, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
Undo while editting
I used to be able to undo some changes I was making while editting, but the last couple of days it stopped working for me. Is there something I should enable in my preferences? Thanks, Crzycheetah 07:28, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
- Some edits cannot be undone--namely those in the same place where the text has been changed by a subsequent edit. I wonder if that may be your problem. What happens when you try to undo? —teb728 t c 08:25, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
- No, I am not trying to undo an already made edit. I am trying to edit a page and while my edit box is open I add new information, then at that time, let's say, I accidentally delete some information in the edit box and I want to right-click and click "undo" or just press "ctrl+Z" to get back the information I accidentally deleted. I used to do that, but now whenever I press "Ctrl+Z", nothing happens. My problem is that I have to start over my editting because of that.--Crzycheetah 08:52, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
- That type of undo is a function in your browser or operating system. Wikipedia does not control how you write text in the edit box. Which browser are you using? Have you changed anything around when the problem started? Does undo never work at all? Does undo work in other programs? PrimeHunter (talk) 11:54, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
- No, I am not trying to undo an already made edit. I am trying to edit a page and while my edit box is open I add new information, then at that time, let's say, I accidentally delete some information in the edit box and I want to right-click and click "undo" or just press "ctrl+Z" to get back the information I accidentally deleted. I used to do that, but now whenever I press "Ctrl+Z", nothing happens. My problem is that I have to start over my editting because of that.--Crzycheetah 08:52, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
Urine drinking
I won't want to drink my own urine,instead I drink my wife's, is the therapy effect same? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 165.21.155.92 (talk) 08:54, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
- I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over 6 million articles and thought we were affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is for asking questions related to using or contributing to Wikipedia itself. Thus, we have no special knowledge about the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck. —teb728 t c 09:20, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
Viewing images on Wikipedia
Hi,
I can't view certain images that people post on Wikipedia, mainly flags. Such as the Northern Irish flag Ulster banner. I've cleared my cache and even changed from Internet Explorer to Mozilla Firefox and I still can't see it... Help??? Speedboy Salesman (talk) 08:57, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
- It's possible that you have anti-virus software turned on that blocks those images for you.--Crzycheetah 09:03, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
- Some images on upload.wikimedia.org actually contain /ad/ in the URL of the file name, which commonly causes them to be blocked by ad-blocking software (or did they fix this?), although the examples you gave don't. I can't imagine what could block them across browsers. Here's something to try though: If in Internet Explorer, right-click on an image that won't load and click "Properties". Copy the URL of the image and paste it into the address bar directly. Or in Firefox, right-click on the image and click "View image". This will give you the actual file displayed directly. If it's being blocked by anything, it will display the message there. • Anakin (talk) 01:36, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
Re: Article "Departments of France"
I would be interested to know why the above mentioned page takes an inordinate amount of time to load. I am running on a new PC with a 2.3 ghz processor, 2 gb ram, Windows XP, IE version 6. Mike —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.202.45.160 (talk) 09:44, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
- Probably because it has a ton of images - each one takes time to download separately from the article text. Sbowers3 (talk) 09:58, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
CPA
What are the different matrices of CPA? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.200.33.226 (talk) 10:29, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
- Ask such questions at the Wikipedia:Reference desk. This page is for questions about using Wikipedia. —teb728 t c 10:39, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
Public domain?
Is it allowable to use an image when there is a resonable belief that is in the public domain? The image in question is [1], which is an advertisement from a magazine from 1926. The company being advertised has not existed since 1936. According to our article on the subject, a work from that era would have passed into the public domain before 1978 if the copyright had not been renewed. It seems resonable to believe that this copyright was not renewed considering that the company had long since ceased to exist. I can imagine some counter-arguments to this logic.
I think the key question is, can the image be used if the public domain rationale is reasonable but not certain? ike9898 (talk) 10:45, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
- You might want to try Wikipedia:Image copyright help desk. Algebraist 12:42, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
- OK, moving question there. ike9898 (talk) 14:36, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
problem
Hi,
I was trying to submit an article about Thermilate products and the admin deleted it straight after. I am an employee of Thermilate and I have a permission to use the information about our products.
I have had another account, called Thermilate, but was said that there is a a problem and I cannot use that name.
Can you tell me why I can't submite the information and how are we going to solve it?
Thank you for your co-operation.
Kind Regards,
Harshy —Preceding unsigned comment added by Harshy (talk • contribs) 10:58, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
- Hi Harshy, the problem with your account, User:Thermilate, is that we don't usually allow the names of companies in usernames as it can be seen as promotional. See WP:USERNAME.
- Another problem is that you've admitted to being an employee of the said company which is a conflict of interest. It's not recommended that any user who is directly or indirectly involved in a company make an article about their company (And/or make major changes to an existing article about the company). Wikipedia is not an advertising service.
- The reason why the article was deleted was because it was a copyright violation of the company's site. We cannot use copy righted material here at Wikipedia.
- A good place to read up would be at Wikipedia:Introduction. I hope this helps. If you have any questions please do not hesitate to contact me. ScarianCall me Pat 11:17, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
deleted page
A page about Davy King was recently deleted. He is a published & broadcast writer & performer. His work is in the legal deposit libraries.
I wish to get the page back so it can be added to & re-edited. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Curiousexplorer (talk • contribs) 11:15, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
Please send me the code or contents of the page. If Wikipedia doesn't want it, someone else might be interested in the information.
Yours truly,
curiousexplorer —Preceding unsigned comment added by Curiousexplorer (talk • contribs) 11:18, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
- Hello Curiousexplorer, after looking at the deleted page quickly it seems as though it was originally prodded for being a non-notable subject and thus deleted. User:Rudget deleted the article a second time for being a WP:TEST article. Try reading Wikipedia:Introduction to get a better idea on how to write articles. If you have any questions please do not hesitate to contact me. ScarianCall me Pat 11:20, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
- I see you have now created Davy King. The former version with content was deleted by User:Tone who can be contacted at User talk:Tone. It appears from [2] that you are Davy King. Writing a Wikipedia:Autobiography is strongly discouraged. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:44, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
Untitled
hi, i was just wondering if when you edit a page will it become visibal to everyone who seeks the infomation?
and will you be able to check if my 'Shes Britney Bitch' article is visible yet. you can locate my article if you search for Britney Spears and my article is the first.
Many thanks, --Jordan Hale 12:39, 15 February 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 95jordan95 (talk • contribs) 07:39, 15 February 2008
- Yes, as soon as you make an edit it's visible to everyone instantly. Your "article", judging by the title, would've been deleted almost immediately. Please read Wikipedia:Introduction for a guide on how to use Wikipedia. If you have any questions please do not hesitate to contact me. ScarianCall me Pat 12:59, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
- (ec)Yes, it does become visible immediately. And thanks for asking because it let me remove your edit quickly. The encyclopedia is not a place for personal opinion; it is a collection of facts from verifiable reliable sources. Before you edit another word of the encyclopedia please read WP:NPOV and perhaps WP:Introduction and WP:Tutorial. We welcome new editors but we do have our way of doing things and we expect editors to abide by our policies and guidelines. Sbowers3 (talk) 13:01, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
nation rural emloyment gaurantee scheme by indian govt
knowledge about nation rural emloment gaurantee scheme by indian govt —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.134.216.83 (talk) 13:03, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
- See National Rural Employment Guarantee Act (NREGA) or a Google search on "National Rural Employment Gurantee Act". Have you tried Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. I hope this helps. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:16, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
Great Depression
I was unable to EDIT the first part of - Great Depression.
(GOP or R)
should follow Herbert Hoover's name. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lvken7 (talk • contribs) 14:09, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
- Great Depression is semi protected so if you were editing from an IP then you couldn't edit it, but your account is old old enough to edit it. So try again making sure that you are logged in. Harland1 (t/c) 14:27, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
- If the problem is that you don't know how to edit the top section, click "edit this page" on the top of the screen. All the other sections have [edit] next to the heading, but the top section doesn't so you have to edit the entire page. Sbowers3 (talk) 15:15, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
- You can get an edit link for the introduction of a page at Gadgets in Special:Preferences. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:55, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
Login Swelter
Hello! I tried to login (User: Swelter) but I forgot the pass. The problem is I haven't left an email there. So I can't get a new pass. Can you please delete my user-profile so that I can create a new one? Or can you send me a new pass to <email removed>? Thanks a lot! Mirko Krimmel —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.199.188.45 (talk) 14:18, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
- Unfortunately, there is no way to delete your account, nor is there a way for anyone to reset your password. You will need to create a new account for yourself, however you may edit your old user page at User:Swelter to redirect to your new one. Hersfold (t/a/c) 14:27, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
- Creating a new account is the easiest for both you and Wikipedia. If you really want to keep the user name then you can try requesting usurpation. I don't know what the response would be when there are 3 unused edits from 2006 [3] to a later redirected page. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:53, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
Wikipedia talk:Sandbox
Why is this page always being blanked? :| I thought that only WP:SAND was the sandbox. D: ö 163.153.198.236 (talk) 15:10, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
- The talk page is also considered the sandbox, so people can test with talk pages too. If you want to bring up a concern about the Sandbox, bring it up at Wikipedia talk:About the Sandbox. Good luck! Soxred93 | talk count bot 15:45, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
- Many new users are going to use the Sandbox talk page for testing whether or not it's intended for it. Accepting this seems a lot easier than trying to use it as a real talk page where tests would have to be manually identified and reverted, and the page history would become a mess. You can use Wikipedia talk:About the Sandbox instead to discuss the Sandbox. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:45, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
Commercial DVD as reference
I would like to add information (filmography and additional facts)to an article about Darby Lloyd Rains that are from a commercial DVD. How do I cite the reference for that since the DVD is not "published" in the conventional way?
Citclab —Preceding unsigned comment added by Citclab (talk • contribs) 15:26, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
- There is a way to do it, actually. Check out the video section on the citation template page. —Noah 15:52, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
- The link direct is {{cite video}}, but as Noah says, every citation template you could possibly need is in the link he provided. -- Matthew | talk | Contribs 19:29, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
editing and then printing an article
I am doing some research on the Book of Job and would like to print out your page to help me get started, but when I just hit Print, it prints the entire website picture, which contains only part of the edited article.
How do I make a printer friendly copy of an article?
o/o Carol —Preceding unsigned comment added by Carol251 (talk • contribs) 16:33, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
- Try the "Printable version" link that is in the left hand column (in the Toolbox section). —Noah 16:35, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
Logging in
I hope this is the right place to ask...
Every time I close IE or Firefox and then reopen one of them to come back to Wikipedia I have to retype my password, even though "remember my password" is checked. It started happening yesterday when I had Verizon put in. Before then I never had to log back in. From searching the internet I'm assuming it's something to do with cookies or a firewall, but I don't know how to fix it. It's a problem with Wikipedia only. With all other websites I'm logged back in fine. - Can anyone help please? -- Matthew | talk | Contribs 17:46, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
- See this section a little bit up the page. I'm guessing it's a bug. Oddly enough, doesn't appear to be a problem when I use IE7 on a different computer; either it's fixed, or it's browser-dependant. --barneca (talk) 18:32, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
- It's doing it in IE7 for me. The funny thing is, if I type "en.wikipedia.org" into the address bar, I have to log in. If I click on a Wikipedia page in the history (except for Main Page), it shows me already logged in. -- Matthew | talk | Contribs 19:19, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
- I replied with this message above as well. I noticed that this happened to me at work just now after upgrading Firefox to the latest version. Did any of you recently do this? This might be the problem - kinda of a cache dump. Wisdom89 (T / C) 19:22, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
- No. But I did install software from Verizon yesterday as I just got a new broadband provider. -- Matthew | talk | Contribs 19:25, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
- I replied with this message above as well. I noticed that this happened to me at work just now after upgrading Firefox to the latest version. Did any of you recently do this? This might be the problem - kinda of a cache dump. Wisdom89 (T / C) 19:22, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
- That been happening to me too. I also just upgraded to the new firefox and its been only happening since then. BonesBrigade 03:31, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
- It's doing it in IE7 for me. The funny thing is, if I type "en.wikipedia.org" into the address bar, I have to log in. If I click on a Wikipedia page in the history (except for Main Page), it shows me already logged in. -- Matthew | talk | Contribs 19:19, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
See Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)#Being logged out. --hydnjo talk 13:42, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
Creation
Maybe I missed it but I have a few topics I would like to Add to wiki. How do I create a new subject definition? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Edemardil (talk • contribs) 18:13, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
- Before creating an article, please search Wikipedia first to make sure that an article does not already exist on the subject. Please also review a few of our relevant policies and guidelines which all articles should comport with. As Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, articles must not contain original research, must be written from a neutral point of view, should cite to reliable sources which verify their content and must not contain unsourced, negative content about living people.
- Articles must also demonstrate the notability of the subject. Please see our subject specific guidelines for people, bands and musicians, companies and organizations and web content and note that if you are closely associated with the subject, our conflict of interest guideline strongly recommends against you creating the article.
- If you still think an article is appropriate, see Help:Starting a new page. You might also look at Wikipedia:Your first article and Wikipedia:How to write a great article for guidance, and please consider taking a tour through the Wikipedia:Tutorial so that you know how to properly format the article before creation. —teb728 t c 18:36, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
Image links
How do I create a link to an image without actually causing the image to appear? There are a few explicit images that I want to report to WP:AN asking that they be added to MediaWiki:Bad image list, but I don't know how to add the links to the page without causing the images to appear.--Urban Rose 19:21, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
- Add a colon to the start of the link, thus: Image:Example.jpg. This also works with category and interwiki links. Algebraist 19:24, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
GFDL
how do i apply or get license asap Henslee57 (talk) 19:35, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
- It’s not what you are asking, but I suspect that what you want is advice on how to avoid deletion of your article on the Guerilla Marketing Talk Radio radio program. Your article needs to demonstrate the notability of the subject with references in reliable sources that are independent of the subject. —teb728 t c 20:08, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
- If that was not it then please be more specific about what you want. Maybe GFDL, WP:GFDL or something at Wikipedia:Copyrights is of help. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:51, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
Template
Would i be fine adding this userbox {{User:Terra/Section 56/Userbox}} template, on Wikipedia:Userboxes/Wikipedia in section 10 where it includes user's own made userboxes, i was going to add it, without asking but thought it may be best to ask first. Terra Terra's talkpage 20:07, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
- It's hard for me to think of any objection, but the only way to be sure is to ask on User talk:Terra. You might as well, out of courtesy. I can't see any harm in asking. --Teratornis (talk) 20:21, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
- Why ask on my own talkpage when i would be the only one seeing it. Terra Terra's talkpage 20:25, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
- I've just added it to section 10 on Wikipedia:Userboxes/Wikipedia. Terra Terra's talkpage 20:35, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
- Oops, I misread the question. The phrase "this userbox" had me thinking it was someone else's userbox (ordinarily people use "my" somewhere to refer to something they themselves made or possess), and "to ask" (without the "where") had me thinking you were going to ask on that user's talk page. My last chance to catch my error would have been to pay attention to your signature, but I find I have a harder time reading customized signatures. All the different fonts and color tend to throw me off. Yeah, that's my excuse. Stupidity on my part may have also been an issue. --Teratornis (talk) 20:53, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
- I've just added it to section 10 on Wikipedia:Userboxes/Wikipedia. Terra Terra's talkpage 20:35, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
putting a picture into my draft article
I want to upload my own pictures into an atricle i am drafting. These pictures are in my own computer, taken by myself, and I have no problem in putting them in the public domain. How do I get these pictures from my computer file into my draft user subpage?Adrian142 (talk) 20:40, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
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- If you want to add an existing image to an article, type
[[Image:File name.jpg|right|Optional caption.]]
to the article – replacingFile name.jpg
with the actual file name of the image,right
with the alignment of the image on the page andOptional caption
with the caption, which of course, is optional. See our picture tutorial for more information. - If you want to upload an image from your computer, to put in an article, you must find out what license the image is licensed under. If you know your image is licensed under a free-license, upload it to the Wikimedia Commons, where all projects have access to the image. If you are unsure what license your image is licensed under, see the file upload wizard for more information. Also, please read Wikipedia's image use policy, because if you upload the image under a false license, you may be blocked.
- If you want to add an existing image to an article, type
- Hope this has helped. Xenon54 20:43, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
- The above (canned?) answer might be confusing to someone who created his or her own images. In that case, the user is the person who gets to choose a suitable license. (As an aside, this is another reason why I would like to modify the standard response templates so they clearly look like messageboxes, rather than looking like they are spontaneous replies.) --Teratornis (talk) 20:59, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
- we use "cammed" answers because we are volunteers: There are only a few of us. To the original questioner: If you own it, then you may upload it under the appropriate license. After you upload it, you may it to any article.-Arch dude (talk) 05:04, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
- I understand why we use canned answers, and I don't use the term as a pejorative; I was one of the people who suggested organizing and expanding our early collection of these templates. I think these templates would be more effective if they clearly identified themselves as templates, for these reasons:
- The Help desk must continuously recruit new volunteers to replace experienced volunteers who move on to other work. Since we have no formal training program for Help desk volunteers, they must educate themselves. We have a page of instructions, but I suspect the main training resource for new volunteers is the Help desk itself - they learn to answer questions by reading other users' answers. If standard response templates display themselves like ordinary human-written text, new volunteers may take longer to realize we have standard response templates.
- People who ask questions on the Help desk are themselves potential users of templates. They may become Help desk volunteers eventually, or they may recognize a use for standard response templates in some other part of Wikipedia. If they don't recognize a standard response template for what it is when they see one here, we may delay their recognition of this useful technique.
- Templates that look like messageboxes can use some helping templates that add links to make them easy to edit.
- Wikipedia is for the most part a transparent system. Not only is it possible to see how almost everything on Wikipedia works, Wikipedia facilitates this by providing visible clues that encourage exploration. We are not being as transparent as possible if we substitute a template that looks like a human-edited reply. I don't see any benefit from trying to fool people. Showing people that we use standard response templates conveys important meta-information about Wikipedia:
- Some questions come up so often that we have canned answers for them. We know this, but brand-new users might not. New users should realize they are on a well-trodden path, and a big part of learning Wikipedia is learning how to look up answers to questions.
- We have an efficient mechanism for handling repetitive work. A new user might later run into some different repetitive problem amenable to similar methods.
- Canned replies have to be general, and thus might contain some information not relevant to a user's situation. If the canned reply clearly identifies itself as such, the potential for misunderstanding decreases - we would be telling the user to use some judgment when reading the reply.
- Again, I don't see anything wrong with telling people we are giving them canned replies. Everyone who uses Wikipedia should realize they're not paying $100/hour for commercial support, we're doing it all for free, so we have to use every possible method to reduce our labor. And we have some pretty clever methods. I'm proud of our methods and I think we should promote them. Anyway, the least disruptive way for me to illustrate my point would be to make alternate versions of some of our standard response templates that look like messageboxes. Then our volunteers can use whichever style of template they prefer, possibly leading to an eventual consensus when we might choose to standardize our collection on style or another. Since we need all the volunteers we can get, the last thing I want to do is alienate anyone. --Teratornis (talk) 21:40, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
- I understand why we use canned answers, and I don't use the term as a pejorative; I was one of the people who suggested organizing and expanding our early collection of these templates. I think these templates would be more effective if they clearly identified themselves as templates, for these reasons:
Reporting bugs?
With regards to the problems mentioned earlier here and here, is there a technical help desk to report Wikipedia bugs? -- Matthew | talk | Contribs 21:27, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
- The process for bug reports and feature requests for Wikimedia is described on this page. —Noah 21:49, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
I've got a question...
I came across this (01:50, 5 February 2008 (hist) (diff) m Wikipedia:Non-administrator rollback (Remove random line) (top)) and removed the phrase strike through text, but I don't know what stuff like this is about. Can someone tell me please? Andrew Kanode (talk) 21:28, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
- It was added by User:Random832 here, probably as a result of accidentally clicking the 13th button above the edit window. Algebraist 21:58, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
- Maybe you are asking about the markup: If you add "<s>strike through text</s>" in the edit window, you get "
strike-through text" in the article. —teb728 t c 22:33, 15 February 2008 (UTC)- Thanks! Andrew Kanode (talk) 01:33, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
- Maybe you are asking about the markup: If you add "<s>strike through text</s>" in the edit window, you get "
Image link is broken now
I had uploaded our U's logo. It is named University_of_Northwestern_Ohio_logo.jpg earlier today and it seemed to work. I went ahead and put it into the article and all seemed well there too. Now it is later and I wanted to add some more content. I noticed that the logo image was "X"ed out in IE. When I went back to the logo page, it was "X"ed out there too, the link was now broken, like the file wasn't there anymore. I'm not sure now how to fix it. I would like to upload a couple more pictures but I want to make sure that I'm doing it correctly. Can someone look at what I've done to see if I did something wrong so that I upload the other pictures correctly? Or, do I just need to upload and replace again?
Thanks for any help you can provide. :-) —Preceding unsigned comment added by LeBlancJ (talk • contribs) 21:52, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
- It would appear Firefox does not like displaying the image or the server doesn't like serving it. I get this error when clicking on the link in the image page: The image “http:/upwiki/wikipedia/en/5/5e/University_of_Northwestern_Ohio_logo.jpg” cannot be displayed, because it contains errors." You might try re-uploading it. —Noah 22:03, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
- It doesn't look like it's uploaded properly. Image:University of Northwestern Ohio logo.jpg is a red "x". You probably saw it when you first uploaded because it was still in your computer's cache memory. Corvus cornixtalk 22:05, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
- There is definitely something goofy with the version you uploaded. I was able to download it by right-clicking and doing Save As. I then opened the jpeg and resaved it (using Gimp), it went from 500kb to 8kb. I would recommend doing the same thing. —Noah 22:10, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
- The second version you uploaded was somehow broken. I reverted to the first. —teb728 t c 22:14, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
- There is definitely something goofy with the version you uploaded. I was able to download it by right-clicking and doing Save As. I then opened the jpeg and resaved it (using Gimp), it went from 500kb to 8kb. I would recommend doing the same thing. —Noah 22:10, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for you all's help! After looking at the image again, there was definately something wrong with it as it was given to me. I opened it in GIMP and resaved it. Now the file size looks correct. Maybe there was some artifact left in it from when the marketing guys were constructing it. Just uploaded it again. Hopefully all is well now. —Preceding unsigned comment added by LeBlancJ (talk • contribs) 15:00, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
Permanently block my IP address
I am the tech administrator for a private school in California, and none of the edits from our shared IP addresses have been useful. To discourage these sorts of edits while still allowing access to wikipedia, I was wondering if there is any way to permanently block our IP address from anonymous edits. That way if someone wants to make a useful edit, they can do so using an account. Thanks!
Ampersand17 (talk) 22:13, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
- See Wikipedia:Blocking policy. I don't know the IP's in question but we don't like blocks to hit innocent people. It can take a lot to block a shared IP address, and such blocks are rarely long. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:58, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
- At my school, the IP adress is registered as something which makes people log in before they edit. When I forget to log in and try to edit, a Wikipedia page comes up with a template on it that states I have to log in to make a contribution. I will look on Monday and see if I can help. In the mean time, does anyone know what I'm talking about? Zrs 12 (talk) 00:19, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
- Yes, in the event of shared IP addresses or school addresses, a "soft block" can be made that only blocks non-registered users. However, the blocking policy specifically states "IP addresses should rarely, if ever, be blocked indefinitely." Many people prefer to make anonymous contributions for various reasons, but still edit constructively. Those people cannot edit if their IP is indefinitely soft blocked. Admins also do not block on request of the intended blockee. Hersfold (t/a/c) 00:42, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
- Actually, the best way to do this would be for you, as tech administrator, to block your computers (or network control point) from accessing URLs at wikipedia.org containing "&action=edit". That will stop all editing from your network, but sill allow reading Wikipedia. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Prodego (talk • contribs) 03:36, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
- That approach would block logged-in as well as anonymous edits. —teb728 t c 03:44, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
- Well yes, but I assume that is the idea here, no? Block Wikipedia editing in general. Prodego talk 03:47, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
- Read the original post. —teb728 t c 03:53, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
- Well yes, but I assume that is the idea here, no? Block Wikipedia editing in general. Prodego talk 03:47, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
- That approach would block logged-in as well as anonymous edits. —teb728 t c 03:44, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
- Actually, the best way to do this would be for you, as tech administrator, to block your computers (or network control point) from accessing URLs at wikipedia.org containing "&action=edit". That will stop all editing from your network, but sill allow reading Wikipedia. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Prodego (talk • contribs) 03:36, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
- It's certainly technically possible. You'd need proof that you were the administrator (maybe by sending an email from an address associated with the school), and to let us know what the IP address(es) is/are. The correct place for such requests would be the administrator's noticeboard. --ais523 20:04, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
"Reply here" talk page convention?
I prefer not to have conversations split across talk pages. If a user posts to my talk page, then I prefer to respond there; if I post to another user's talk page, I ask them to respond there and I watch the page for a while. Explicitly stating this policy in every new conversation is tedious, and there must be other editors who agree. But I haven't found any standardized etiquette, convention, guideline, user talk page template, etc. that expresses it. Is there one? (Reply here, if you like. ;) Joshua R. Davis (talk) 23:30, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
- {{Usertalkback}}, when placed on the top of your talkpage, will alert users to your talkpage procedures. See the template page for details on parameters - it can be modified to suit anyone's preferences.Xenon54 00:21, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
- You might also find WP:MULTI helpful. It links to a single point within the talk page guidelines. CounterFX (talk) 12:17, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks, both of you. Joshua R. Davis (talk) 16:56, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
- You might also find WP:MULTI helpful. It links to a single point within the talk page guidelines. CounterFX (talk) 12:17, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
flyordie was deleted
one of the admins Andronic deleted this article because he said it was not important who <personal attack removed - Corvus cornixtalk 00:07, 16 February 2008 (UTC)—Preceding unsigned comment added by Chip1990 (talk • contribs) 23:54, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
- Always WP:AGF. It was deleted under WP:SD I'm assuming. Those are tagged by users, placed in a category and then admins delete them if they meet the criteria for speedy deletion. What was the given violation on your talk page? Wisdom89 (T / C) 00:31, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
- Actually it was deleted for not asserting / indicating importance, not because it "wasn't important". See Wikipedia:Notability (web) for the criteria for web sites. • Anakin (talk) 01:47, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
- And see Wikipedia:Conflict of interest if you are associated with the site. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:59, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
February 16
Wikiquote template
Do we have a mainspace template that basically says, "please consider moving this quotes section to Wikiquote instead." I'm pretty sure we have one, but I don't know how to find it.--The Fat Man Who Never Came Back (talk) 00:51, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
- Yes: Template:Copy to Wikiquote and Template:Copy section to Wikiquote. • Anakin (talk) 01:49, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
Rename to simple redirect not working
I just tried to rename "Yellow Fever (Hot Tuna album)" to "Yellow Fever (album)", per the guidelines at Wikipedia:WikiProject Albums#Naming. I got a message saying "The page could not be moved: a page of that name already exists, or the name you have chosen is not valid...." The new name is a redirect page with no prior versions in its edit history, so I thought that this move should work. Thanks in advance for any help or insight. — Mudwater 01:13, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
- You can move on top of a redirect only if it is a redirect to the article you are trying to move. In this case only if "Yellow Fever (album)" redirected to "Yellow Fever (Hot Tuna album)". So you'll have to request a move. Sbowers3 (talk) 01:22, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
- I didn't know that. Thanks! — Mudwater 01:48, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
- No need to request it, I have done it for you. Prodego talk 01:49, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
Editing Question
I am a Master chess player and writer who is attempting, for the first time, to edit your excellent chess page, with a minor revision, in the post-1945 section.
I make my changes, click save, but find that the entire section seems to be absent.
Please advise.
Thank you very much.
Andrewjsacks (talk) 04:50, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
- The edits worked just fine; the changes are there: [4]. It might be a page caching problem: try refreshing the page. That said, the changes you've made so far seem to suffer from WP:PEACOCK problems; please glance over that essay briefly. The Evil Spartan (talk) 04:54, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
Logging out everytime I close my Browser
Everytime I close FireFox I log out...same thing happens with IE. I clicked "Remember me". I've never had this issue before...help! Knowitall (talk) 04:58, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
- Hey there! Thanks for using the help desk. Hmm, sounds tricky. Try going to the Tools menu, then click Options. Go to the Privacy tab and make sure "Accept cookies from sites" is checked and "always clear my private data when I close Firefox" is unchecked. This should help. Good luck! Master of Puppets Call me MoP!☺ 05:01, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
- I'm starting to experience the same problem using Internet Explorer. First it was just the French Wikipedia, then the English one started to do it. Now the German one has just started to. In all three cases they have started to forget my password within hours and, presenting me with my name only, expect me to put in the password manually, which they only did before on infrequent occasions (about once a fortnight, I seem to remember).
- Alternatively, I can re-enter my name, in which case my computer remembers the password perfectly easily -- so it's not that!
- As it doesn't apply to all pages, I imagine it might have something to do with the recent software upgrade. Could that be it? --PL (talk) 10:22, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
- PS
- It doesn't apply, for example, to Simple English Wikipedia, which is working as normal. Moreover, if I enter the wrong password here, ignore the resulting error screen and simply press 'Back', I find that I'm unaccountably signed in, and able to edit and sign off as usual, just as I am doing now. And decreasing the privacy protection makes no difference!
- So it would seem that some kind of error has developed in Wikipedia's software. Who needs to be told? --PL (talk) 16:35, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
- I did what MoP suggested (the options were already correctly set), and this problem still occurs for me. I am also using Firefox. ~ UBeR (talk) 17:44, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
- So it would seem that some kind of error has developed in Wikipedia's software. Who needs to be told? --PL (talk) 16:35, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
- Ditto except I'm using IE. As the problem occurred after the switch to the new server, I'd have to assume Occam's razor. •Jim62sch•dissera! 02:26, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
- I would (humbly) suggest that you all uncheck your various gadget options, maybe un-install your twinkles and AWB's, purge your browser cache, then manual-delete any cookies related to en.wikipedia (or anything-wiki-anything). Then reboot and try again before re-ticking any options. Go back to the bottom and try there. Franamax (talk) 02:40, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
- Ditto except I'm using IE. As the problem occurred after the switch to the new server, I'd have to assume Occam's razor. •Jim62sch•dissera! 02:26, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
- Uh, not applicable. •Jim62sch•dissera! 04:48, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
- Simple English Wikipedia is working fine, without any of that. So, curiously, is Wikipedia itself this morning (though not the French version). My computer and browser haven't changed: Wikipedia's software evidently has (unless the problem has now been solved). --PL (talk) 10:43, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
See Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)#Being logged out. --hydnjo talk 13:34, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks. Evidently it's not just me/us, then! Same thing in French and German, too. --PL (talk) 16:07, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
Also see: Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)#Being logged out, Wikipedia:Village pump (assistance)#Wikipedia keeps logging me out after restarting browser, Wikipedia:Help desk#Logging in, Wikipedia:Help desk#Interesting log in problem, Wikipedia:Help desk#Logging out everytime I close my Browser, Wikipedia:Help desk#Frequent Logouts and more I'm sure. --hydnjo talk 20:21, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
children on wikipedia
Can you tell me what service you are doing by allowing people to view what's consider to be kiddie porn on wikipedia? I was horrified to see the controversial cover for virgin killer posted on wikipedia. When our kids are searching for different rock bands they've seen a link for they should never be subjected to any profane, never mind illegal, images! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.65.51.71 (talk) 05:10, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
- Hi! Please note that Wikipedia is not censored, and users should browse at their own discretion. Master of Puppets Call me MoP!☺ 05:14, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
- I wouldn't want my young children to see such images either (of course, at some point neither of us are going to keep them out of used record shops). However, I also understand why Wikipedia has the censorship rule. As a compromise I point my children to the 2007 Wikipedia Selection for schools. —Noah 09:00, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
- If readers of this page are curious about past discussions about this particular image they they should go read Wikipedia:Images_and_media_for_deletion/2007_November_27. —Noah 09:16, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
- I wouldn't want my young children to see such images either (of course, at some point neither of us are going to keep them out of used record shops). However, I also understand why Wikipedia has the censorship rule. As a compromise I point my children to the 2007 Wikipedia Selection for schools. —Noah 09:00, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
Gonintendo Article
Hello my name is DanJ and I am trying to create an article on a popular site Gonintendo. I was wondering if you could stop the people deleteing the article because the article is not small at all as they think. I even got permission from the guy who runs the site. I am not trying to be mean or anything but I just want to make this article but everytime I try to it gets deleted please help thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by DanJ (talk • contribs) 06:58, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
- According to the deletion log at Gonintendo, the page has been deleted a total of six times, most recently for WP:CSD#A7 and WP:CSD#A3. What this means is that the article did not establish why the site was important enough to be in Wikipedia, that is, its notability. In addition, it contained very little information, and was essentially a dictionary definition or entirely links to the site or other pages. If you would like more time to fully develop your article, you may do so on a user subpage such as User:DanJ/Gonintendo. As long as you are working on the article and remain active, that page will not be deleted, allowing you to work on your article until it meets the guidelines I've outlined above. Also, make sure that you write the article in your own words - text copied from another site will be considered a copyright violation and will be removed, even if the owner allows its use on Wikipedia. Wikipedia is mirrored elsewhere, so we cannot guarantee that the text will appear on Wikipedia only. For more help, you can check the links I've provided, or see our help page on writing your first article. I hope this helps! Hersfold (t/a/c) 07:27, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
I want to change the title of a page i have created
I have created the roses,kings,castle page and was wondering how i change that title? i was also wondering whay, with the current title roses,kings,castles you can only find the page when typing it in precisely corrent in the search engine? when other pages can be found more easily —Preceding unsigned comment added by Greenlovesam (talk • contribs) 11:21, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
- The page can be moved to a new location, but only by confirmed (ie. not-brand-new) editors. What page do you want to move it to? GBT/C 11:21, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
i want the title to be Roses Kings Castles (i.e. no commas) and i want it to appear on search results more easily (i.e. even if someone adds commas or whatever they can still find it..) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Greenlovesam (talk • contribs) 11:25, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
- I've moved it for you . I'm not a great expert on the search function, so maybe someone else can help answer this one? In the meantime, I'm not sure the band meets the notability criteria - have a read of this page which sets out a bit more detail about what is required. GBT/C 11:28, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
oh thanks! oh i'm not sure about the notability thing. i've been asked to set this page up by adam ficek the musician. he's in babyshambles a major UK band (top 5 album and singles in charts) and his solo stuff is also used by the band on their Uk tours so its got a big fanbase. do you know how i can get the notibility thing so its not deleted? the help page seems pretty complicated —Preceding unsigned comment added by Greenlovesam (talk • contribs) 11:37, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
- Having taken a very quick look, I suspect it may squeeze in under Contains at least one member who was once a part of or later joined a band that is otherwise notable; note that it is often most appropriate to use redirects in place of articles on side projects, early bands and such.. If they haven't released any albums as yet, can you link to any independent coverage from reliable sources - newspaper reviews, etc.? GBT/C 11:40, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
yeah got a link here from NME magazine (one of the UK's biggest music magazine's) http://www.nme.com/news/babyshambles/32742 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Greenlovesam (talk • contribs) 11:47, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
- Ok...pop it in the article, then. It all helps. GBT/C 11:48, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
ok thank you. it is still titled Roses Kings Castles.. yes? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Greenlovesam (talk • contribs) 11:54, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
- Nope, another editor has moved it back to Roses, Kings, Castles saying, in the edit summary, that that is the correct title of the band. GBT/C 11:55, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
ok. i'll ask adam later.. he should know what he wants it called! thanks for the help! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Greenlovesam (talk • contribs) 11:57, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
(ec)According to your source, the group's name is "Roses, Kings, Castles" (with commas). I have Moved the article to that name. It can still be found by Go-ing to "roses kings castles" (without commas and lower or upper case) because there are redirects from the other names.
You have a reference to NME magazine. References are best if they are part of the article itself, not mentioned on a Talk page or here on the Help desk. Notability requires references from reliable sources. It is not a subjective personal judgment; it requires objective evidence in the form of significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject. A link to MySpace, for instance, is not independent; a link to NME is independent and would help to demonstrate notability. Sbowers3 (talk) 12:06, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
so the NME article gives the page notability? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Greenlovesam (talk • contribs) 12:14, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
- It's a start. A single reference doesn't show notability. Per WP:Notability: "A topic is presumed to be notable if it has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject." More than one reference would show "significant" coverage. Sbowers3 (talk) 12:19, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
ok i understand. Is the NME article + the fact that roses,kings,castles 'Contains at least one member who was once a part of or later joined a band that is otherwise notable; note that it is often most appropriate to use redirects in place of articles on side projects, early bands and such' enough to ensure the page wont be deleted? sorry about all the Q's, i'm very thankful for the help! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Greenlovesam (talk • contribs) 12:29, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
Categorising a page
having set up the Roses, Kings, Castles page, it says it is 'uncategorized'. is it necessary to categorize the page, and if so how do i do this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Greenlovesam (talk • contribs) 13:16, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
- Hi Greenlovesam. There are links on that "uncategorized" notice directing you to Wikipedia:Categorization and Wikipedia:Categorization FAQ. However, those pages on instructions are perhaps too much to take in at once (and I've never read through them in three years). Essentially, categorisation allows people to find articles much more easily, so what you (or someone) ought to do is add whatever categories you think the article naturally falls into. Try browsing through Category:Music to find suitable categories. When you find suitable ones, the syntax is "[[Category:Music]]", and they go at the end of the article.--86.149.54.221 (talk) 13:57, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
Thank you! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.68.47.105 (talk) 14:01, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
Changing/editing name of article
How can I change or edit the name (title) of an article - in particular one that I, myself, have initiated? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.103.182.217 (talk) 16:16, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
- I think you first have to log in as a registered user. It's super-easy to register an account name (as long as you can think up a name that isn't taken yet!) Just click log in/register at the top right of the screen. See Wikipedia:Why create an account? and Help:Logging in. Once you're logged in, I think whenever you're at a page that can be moved, that is, almost any article, you'll see a tab at the top of the screen marked "move", between the "history" tab and the "watch" tab (which is another tab that appears when you log in). If you don't see these, maybe that's one of the things that you only get after you've had your login account for 4 days. Anyway, once you're able to see the "move" tabs, just go to the article and then click "move" and you can easily rename the article. Feel free to ask me at my talk page or ask here again if you have any trouble; perhaps I or someone else can move the page for you if you can't. --Coppertwig (talk) 17:54, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
- WP:ACCOUNT lists several editing features that only registered users have, and the only one of these the WP:ACCOUNT page lists as having a four-day waiting period is the ability to edit a semi-protected page. That suggests the new account immediately gains the ability to move pages. (Of course, it is possible for a help page to lag behind feature changes on Wikipedia. When someone changes a feature on Wikipedia, some time may elapse before other users update all the help pages to reflect the change.) --Teratornis (talk) 20:39, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
Frequent Logouts
Recently, I keep getting logged out of WP every two hours or so, even though I have checked "Remember me". The session usually does not expire that quickly. Any reason for this? --Schzmo (talk) 17:02, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
- I'm suffering from this as well, it's quite annoying. Knowitall (talk) 18:53, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
- You two aren't the only ones. I think someone should report this. STORMTRACKER 94 Go Sox! 19:29, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
- I'm just making a wild guess, but could it have anything to do with autoblocks combined with switching from one IP address to another if you're using shared IP's? (I don't know if that's possible or not. Maybe an autoblock would necessarily mean you can't edit at all. I'm not sure. What if it's an autoblock that only keeps out non-logged-in users, if there's such a thing?) --Coppertwig (talk) 21:47, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
- I'm not on a shared IP address, and I only use this account. There have been no blocks on my IP. This may be another problem. STORMTRACKER 94 Go Sox! 22:05, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
- I'm just making a wild guess, but could it have anything to do with autoblocks combined with switching from one IP address to another if you're using shared IP's? (I don't know if that's possible or not. Maybe an autoblock would necessarily mean you can't edit at all. I'm not sure. What if it's an autoblock that only keeps out non-logged-in users, if there's such a thing?) --Coppertwig (talk) 21:47, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
- You two aren't the only ones. I think someone should report this. STORMTRACKER 94 Go Sox! 19:29, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
See Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)#Being logged out --hydnjo talk 13:24, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
- Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)#Being logged out, Wikipedia:Help desk#Logging in, Wikipedia:Help desk#Interesting log in problem, Wikipedia:Help desk#Logging out everytime I close my Browser, Wikipedia:Help desk#Frequent Logouts, and others I'm sure. --hydnjo talk 21:17, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
Proper Band Templates
I noticed that on the template for some bands, such as ABBA (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:ABBA), they list all, or the majority of the singles that said band has released. However, on some other bands, such as Queen (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Queen), they're left out. I'd assume they're suppose to be there but I'm not sure, can someone clarify this? Or does it depend on how big the template is already, etc.? 71.7.137.46 (talk) 17:57, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
- Template:Queen links to Template:Queen singles. I think it would become too large for a navigation box together. Template:Queen by itself is already larger than Template:ABBA. PrimeHunter (talk) 18:21, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
Making an anchor and referencing it...
Hi,
I've tried doing this for hours, and no dice.
I'd like to make an anchor beginning at a subsection--section 3.1 in The Holocaust. It is a crucial, reasoned section on how the # of victims can be estimated.
There are so many disparate numbers floating around in so many articles, with so many different cites (if given at all, some with endless disputes) that it would be worthwhile to refer readers to a solid discussion.
I would also need to know how to make the reference to that anchor :) ...
Thanks a lot,---Shlishke (talk) 20:04, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
- How about this:
- or this
- The interwiki version would be The_Holocaust#Victims_and_death_toll which you can make look better by doing [[The_Holocaust#Victims_and_death_toll|Holocaust death toll]] which creates this link: Holocaust death toll
- —Noah 20:15, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
- Note that links to section headings will break if the section name changes (they work if the whole article is moved). You could create a redirect at Holocaust death toll with the text:
- #REDIRECT [[The Holocaust#Victims and death_toll]] {{R with possibilities}}
- If the redirect is later pointed to a new target or becomes an article then all pages using the redirect will go there. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:07, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
- I made the redirect myself. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:12, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
- Note that links to section headings will break if the section name changes (they work if the whole article is moved). You could create a redirect at Holocaust death toll with the text:
Removing NFCC#10C warnings
A user has the mistaken opinion that {{non-free logo}} by itself qualifies as a non-free use rationale, and has a habit for removing NFCC#10C warnings from images like Image:Euskal Herritarrok logo.jpg. I don’t want to get into a revert war with him. What should be done? --—teb728 t c 21:12, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
- Apparently you're talking about Sugaar and you've already had a discussion with the user via user talk page. I have a few ideas. Unfortunately I can't help you much because I don't feel I know much about fair use rationale policy -- maybe other help desk answerers can help. But one idea is for you to find a good fair use rationale for a logo, (or fix up one of the images Sugaar is concerned with: add a rationale yourself) and show it to Sugaar, so that Sugaar will know how to do it. Another idea is to try to get other people to comment. Maybe posting here is enough for that. Wait -- I just found a page which may be just what you want: try posting at Wikipedia:Media copyright questions. I suggest you ask there whether the tags Sugaar wants to use are good enough (even though you already know the answer), then show the answer to Sugaar. You might want to wait a short while first to see if anybody else answers here. I hope this helps. --Coppertwig (talk) 21:41, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
- As you say I could easily provide a rationale myself. But unless I monitor all of his edits, that does nothing about his disruption. This is not the only image he has removed warnings from. —teb728 t c 22:58, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
Public barnstar: you guys who give help are the best
I thought someone should simply put that as the entire message and subject heading.
---Shlishke (talk) 21:20, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks. I think it's great how everybody helps everybody else out here. The ones asking for help are also helping, by adding content to the encyclopedia. :-) Go Wikipedia. --Coppertwig (talk) 21:29, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks! Per above! --The Helpful One (Review) 21:34, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks! PrimeHunter (talk) 21:37, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
- Man, that would be a lot of barnstars to dish out if done individually : ) Wisdom89 (T / C) 22:10, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
- Wikipedia's Help desk works as well as any technical support I have seen in 20 years of computing, and I have experience with commerial support as both a user and a provider. I'm amazed not by just the quality and speed of answers, but even more by the fact that it's all done by volunteers. In the corporate world, technical support tends to be such miserable work that few people view it as their career of first choice, and the burnout rate is high. But on Wikipedia, answering questions is actually fun. Also on Wikipedia, we can easily build tools to improve our efficiency at answering questions, such as the Editor's index, the standard response templates, search templates such as {{Google help desk}}, and other stuff we are going to think of. --Teratornis (talk) 02:45, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
- Man, that would be a lot of barnstars to dish out if done individually : ) Wisdom89 (T / C) 22:10, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks! PrimeHunter (talk) 21:37, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks! Per above! --The Helpful One (Review) 21:34, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks! It's nice to occasionally get feedback like this. It helps prevent Helpdesk burnout. Helpdesk volunteers are entirely self-selected: anyone can answer questions. The best way to thank us is to stop by occasionally and answer questions here. -Arch dude (talk) 02:52, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
How to enter coordinates
I was wondering how to enter coordinates of a small town in India,Anklav. The coordinates are 22°23'59"N 73°0'0"E. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.99.41.74 (talk) 22:06, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
- Have a look at {{coord}}. If that turns out to be too confusing, just give another shout. Martijn Hoekstra (talk) 22:10, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
Mat Roy Thompson
Errors of fact in article on Mat Roy Thompson (and I can't figure out how to edit them).
Matthew Roy Thompson was Mat Roy and Patience's third son, not the first. Mat Roy and Patience eventually had six children: Philip, born 1896; Ralph, born 1899; Matthew, born 1900; Hugh, born 1905; Patience, born 1910; and Maxine, born 1915.
Source: Family history. I am Matthew's son, Mat Roy's grandson. email: <removed> —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.217.117.215 (talk) 22:27, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
- Click "edit this page" at the top of the page to fix an error. Be aware that personal knowledge is construed as original research and your edit can be reverted. Xenon54 01:47, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
- But replacing an unsourced assertion of fact with another unsourced assertion of fact is unlikely to cause problems unless somebody else objects. So yes, somebody might revert your edit, but it's not likely. However, we would greatly appreciate it if you can find a reliable source, and cite the source in the article. This requires a bit of explanation. Contributore sucyh as yourself are understandably affronted when we do not accept your expertise. However, Wikipedia is the encyclopedia that "anybody can edit," and more than 6,000,000 people have edited. We do not have a mechanism to verify the identities of our editors, so we cannot hold our editors responsible for the facts they add. Therefore we try hard to have cite teh facts to sources that can in fact ve verified. -Arch dude (talk) 02:46, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
February 17
Distorted signature
Calling all tech pros! It's been brought to my attention that, only in Opera, my signature does an odd thing. See example A and example B. Does anyone know why this is? I can't figure it out. Thank you, нмŵוτнτ 01:09, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
- Opera and IE have problems with three-letter colour codes. Don't know if this will help, but try replacing the two instances of "color:#fff;" with "color:#ffffff;". Perhaps the folks over at the Technical village pump can help. Xenon54 01:45, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
- Haha, funny... they "made me" change my sig to make them 3 letters back in the day, and that's what's not working. Of course! Haha, нмŵוτнτ 16:56, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
blacklisted link
last year i put up a link to my Official site for Mel peachey i see it was took down so i put it back up today but got a message that it was Blacklisted. Why Was it Blacklisted and BVy Who ? This really is Mel's Official Fansite. Please unblacklist my site. Thank you Write Soon.
Rick01:32, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
The Page is Mel Peachey
- The spam blacklist is a last resort to stop link spammers who continually add links that breach the external links policy. Only administrators can blacklist sites, and they should have a very good reason for doing so. Links to fansites are expressly prohibited by the external links policy, so it looks unlikely that the site will be removed. Requests for removal from the blacklist can be made at MediaWiki talk:Spam-blacklist, shortcut WP:SBL. Xenon54 01:43, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
Interesting log in problem
I am having problems logging in that have not been answered elsewhere. Whenever I go come onto to Wikipedia after having my broswer window closed, I am logged off. Upon hitting "Log on", without hitting "log on" on the Special:Log on, my user buttons show up in the upper right as normal. This is just an inconveinence, though. Thank you, Southern Illinois SKYWARN (talk) 02:34, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
- Its either a problem with your browser caching pages, or it's a problem similar to the one experienced by a few other people here, that they are getting logged off in sessions.---KerotanLeave Me a Message Have a nice day :) 02:40, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
- This problem has just developed recently, and I have not changed anything with my browser. Is there anyhting I can I do if it is the latter? Thankfully I have never been logged off while I was editing. Southern Illinois SKYWARN (talk) 02:48, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
- Not that I know of, if you look up the this page, you can see the possible problem I am referring to.--KerotanLeave Me a Message Have a nice day :) 02:51, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
- I am so sorry, I did not see that. By the way, I think your user page looks great. Thank you, Southern Illinois SKYWARN (talk) 02:55, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
- Not that I know of, if you look up the this page, you can see the possible problem I am referring to.--KerotanLeave Me a Message Have a nice day :) 02:51, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
- This problem has just developed recently, and I have not changed anything with my browser. Is there anyhting I can I do if it is the latter? Thankfully I have never been logged off while I was editing. Southern Illinois SKYWARN (talk) 02:48, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
See Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)#Being logged out. --hydnjo talk 13:39, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
Why template?
Can someone tell me what is the purpose of creating a table using templates? In particular this template: {{Electiontable}}. Im curious why dont we just build the table in the target article. Im thinking of making a new table, but i dont know whether its necessary to follow this style. kawaputratorque 02:35, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
- To know the exact reason why someone used a particular template in a particular article, you would need to ask that person. (You can see who added the template by checking the history of the page where the template appears.) Possible reasons to use a template:
- To standardize the style among a set of related articles.
- To make the standard style easy to change for all related artices by editing one template.
- (Maybe) to simplify the wikitext markup for each article (that is, if the code to call the template is simpler than the table code in the template, which isn't always true, since table markup is already pretty compact).
- Sometimes a template turns out to be inadequate for some new article in a series of articles, if the new article needs to show more information than the template accepts. If you want to change a template that lots of articles use, that can be trickier than changing just one article, because any change to the template will propagate through several articles and possibly draw the attention of many people. Thus a person may have to do some politicking to convince other people to accept the change. There is probably no hard requirement that you should use a particular template in a particular kind of article, but other users may see the article and decide to add the template if you do not. On Wikipedia, we cannot control what millions of other users do, so the best strategy is to try to figure out what will look best to the most people. --Teratornis (talk) 02:57, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
- I might add that consistent design schemes in related articles tend to carry some weight. That is, more people would likely agree that all related articles in a series should use common templates, than for all the articles to have different designs. If you want some opinions on the specific case you have in mind, you could tell us the page where you want to add the new table. Our opinions are not authoritative but they might be helpful. I see that you asked on Template talk:Electiontable#Query why this template exists. If you don't get an answer there, you could try asking on the user talk pages of some users who contributed to the template. --Teratornis (talk) 03:07, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks for your response Tera. Ok, we need a table for the article Malaysian general election, 2008. Someone put in a table from the template {{Malaysian general election, 2004}}, which is used for the article Malaysian general election, 2004. Should the template {{Malaysian general election, 2008}} be created? Or should we just build a new table in the article itself? kawaputratorque 03:41, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
- I might add that consistent design schemes in related articles tend to carry some weight. That is, more people would likely agree that all related articles in a series should use common templates, than for all the articles to have different designs. If you want some opinions on the specific case you have in mind, you could tell us the page where you want to add the new table. Our opinions are not authoritative but they might be helpful. I see that you asked on Template talk:Electiontable#Query why this template exists. If you don't get an answer there, you could try asking on the user talk pages of some users who contributed to the template. --Teratornis (talk) 03:07, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
plant characteristics box
are there other templates such as this one for other plants? i'd like to include one for the plant soursop. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Boomgaylove (talk • contribs) 02:44, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
- Just to clarify the question further, the template you linked to is: {{Mycomorphbox}}; articles that use it are linked from here: Special:Whatlinkshere/Template:Mycomorphbox. Unfortunately, the template page lists no categories; if the template were properly categorized, you could check the category page(s) to find related templates. So when we do find some related templates, we should categorize this one. One way to search for templates is to use {{Google custom}}, for example:
- I'm saving this partial reply before I get an edit conflict. --Teratornis (talk) 03:14, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
- This question is a bit of a stumper. I looked at WP:PLANTS, WP:FUNGI, Wikipedia:WikiProject Plants/Resources#Templates, and WP:TAXOBOX, without seeing any clues. I don't know whether a template similar to {{Mycomorphbox}} exists for other plants. I also can't think of good keywords for searching the template namespace, since such a template could have an unpredictable name or wording. I suggest asking on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Fungi and Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Plants. Maybe someone more familiar with Wikipedia's botany articles would know of a suitable template. In the worst case, you could create one. Also, {{Mycomorphbox}} should be in at least one category. You can look for categories on Category:Wikipedia templates by subject area. Maybe: Category:Biology infobox templates would be suitable. --Teratornis (talk) 03:40, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
Link goes to wrong person
In the article about the Big Apple Convention, the name "Michael Carbonaro" is linked to an entry for a movie actor. The Micahel Carbonaro referred to in the article is not the same person, and does not have a Wikipedia entry yet. What can I do? Can I make an entry for the right Michael Carbonaro? How do I distinguish between one and the other in the link?
Zorikh (talk) 03:17, 17 February 2008 (UTC)Zorikh
- Make an article called Michael Carbonaro (artist) or something and the replace the link in the big apple convention article, with [[Michael Carbonaro (artist)|Michael Carbonaro]].make sure that article follows all the usual guidelines.--KerotanLeave Me a Message Have a nice day :) 03:25, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
- FWIW, I think it would have been better advice to suggest that Zorikh creates a redlink. That's certainly what I do when I find a link pointing to the wrong person. To create an article which won't be immediately deleted involves having at least one reliable source as to notability available, and - indeed - the motivation to do so when you may have other priorities for your wikipedia time. AndyJones (talk) 10:37, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
My first template
I've made an overlay for Vancouver neighbourhood maps that adds clickable targets so users can explore all the main neighbourhoods visually and discussed it here. Now I want to move my Franamax/Test2 template into the Template: namespace and apply it as shown in User:Franamax/Test3 for a few articles to see how quickly it gets shot down :)
Here's my questions:
- It does have to move into the Template: namespace, right?
- What should I call it? Vcvr_nhood_map_overlay? Something longer but more explanatory?
- Should I add some explanation? Someone just looking at the template itself will just see a bunch of X's. Should I put in a noinclude section to explain it?
- Should I put it in a category? I used {{ottawa map}} as a reference and I see it is in a category. Should I try to find an overlay category, or will some helpful wiki-gnomes come along and do this for me?
This is my first try at a template so all help is appreciated. Also, please don't do it for me, I need those edit-counts! ;) Franamax (talk) 03:50, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
- It seems nobody jumped right on your question, so I'll take a weak stab. Answers in the order that you asked:
- Yes. Templates ordinariy go in the Template: namespace.
- You can call it whatever you want. I would suggest trying to find similar templates and see if someone has established a consistent naming scheme. Wikipedia has naming conventions for articles, but template names are probably less orderly, at the moment anyway.
- The fancy way to document templates now is with the {{documentation}} template. You can see an example on {{Google}} and {{Google/doc}}. Yes, the {{documentation}} template generates noinclude sections for you, and tells you where to insert your documentation, category links, etc.
- Every template should be in at least one category. Your template could be in the same categories as {{VancouverNeighbourhoods}} and maybe some more. You don't have to figure this out instantly; you can come back later and add more categories to your template (actually you will add them to its /doc subpage).
- When I make a new template, I sometimes add comments to the template talk page to deter the deletionists. For example, if you adapted your template from an existing template, and that template survived a Templates for Deletion nomination, you could link to the discussion if it also applies to your new template. --Teratornis (talk) 04:50, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
MJ Morning Show
Hi There, Could you please point me in the right direction? Over the past 2 months, the article MJ Morning Show has been subject to repeated IP vandalism, much of it containing defamation towards the host, Todd Schnitt. The vandalism is a result of a campaign launched by a competing radio host. I've been keeping on top of reverting the vandalism to remove the defamation, however, in light of Wikipedia's clear policies on defamation, I'm wondering whether there is something else that would be more proactive to prevent the continued IP vandalism to the article. I've requested semi-protection previously, but the request was denied citing not enough vandalism to justify at that time. Any guidance you might be able to provide would be most appreciated. Thanks, Ihateaubergine (talk) 04:14, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
- Aside from what you've already done and are doing, there's not really much else to be done. Looking at the history, this article does seem to be getting pretty constantly hit with vandalism. Should it continue, I'd request semi-protection again. The only changes to the article since the beginning of the month have been the addition or reversion of vandalism, with one or two exceptions. Sorry I can't be of more help. Hersfold (t/a/c) 04:53, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
Spelling error in title
The page I have created for a course in knowledge building I am talking has a spelling error in the title.
How do I fix this problem?
Thanks
- I fixed it. jj137 (talk) 04:36, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
Search Help desk is fantastic! Why not put it (and an example for target change) up top, with the "read FAQ" boilerplate?
See subject.
I just found this template (is that what it is?) by accident in a recent help desk answer. Everyone should know about it, I think....
Ciao, amici
Shlishke (talk) 05:22, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
- Sounds like a great idea! I'll do it soon unless someone quickly thinks of a reason not to do it. Sbowers3 (talk) 13:01, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
- Done. Sbowers3 (talk) 14:14, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
- As the original author of the {{Google help desk}} template (for which I shamelessly stole the idea from someone else's {{Google}} template, as well as the method of making {{Google custom}} links which I learned about by reading this very Help desk last year), I felt I had a conflict of interest after someone removed my previous attempt a few months back to put that search link at the top of the Help desk, so I didn't fight to put it back up there. It seemed pretty logical to me at the time. I figured eventually logic had to prevail. Help desk questions have a lot of repetition, suggesting that many users who are new to Wikipedia go through a similar process of figuring things out, and coming up with similar questions. Also, many of the answers to Help desk questions are really good and are worth searching. Anyway, the fact that so many people keep generating the same questions over and over suggests that we have some deficiencies in the design of Wikipedia - not that I know how to fix the problems. But I'd say overall we're muddling along pretty well as long as dozens of volunteers keep answering questions on the Help desk. --Teratornis (talk) 04:21, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
- The instructions at the top of the Help desk page follow an endless cycle of death and rebirth. The instructions tend to grow as volunteers notice people asking inappropriate questions and so on. Eventually the instructions get large enough to trigger someone's WP:CREEP alarm. Then the endless cycle of instruction death and rebirth continues. Naturally, of course, I think we ought to encourage questioners to try {{Google help desk}} before asking a question, and of course the template is possibly even more useful for the volunteers who answer questions (who tend to be farther along the Wikipedia learning curve and are therefore better able to search and interpret the results). While I'm plugging my templates, also check out the examples I listed on the {{Google custom}} documentation page, for searching various parts of Wikipedia and related sites. --Teratornis (talk) 04:36, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
- As the original author of the {{Google help desk}} template (for which I shamelessly stole the idea from someone else's {{Google}} template, as well as the method of making {{Google custom}} links which I learned about by reading this very Help desk last year), I felt I had a conflict of interest after someone removed my previous attempt a few months back to put that search link at the top of the Help desk, so I didn't fight to put it back up there. It seemed pretty logical to me at the time. I figured eventually logic had to prevail. Help desk questions have a lot of repetition, suggesting that many users who are new to Wikipedia go through a similar process of figuring things out, and coming up with similar questions. Also, many of the answers to Help desk questions are really good and are worth searching. Anyway, the fact that so many people keep generating the same questions over and over suggests that we have some deficiencies in the design of Wikipedia - not that I know how to fix the problems. But I'd say overall we're muddling along pretty well as long as dozens of volunteers keep answering questions on the Help desk. --Teratornis (talk) 04:21, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
- Done. Sbowers3 (talk) 14:14, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
Deleting a user account
I no longer wish to be member of Wikipedia. How do I delete my user account? [[User:Shane 42]] (talk) 05:27, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
- Due to the fact that Wikipedia content is licensed under the GFDL, all edits must be kept for attribution purposes, and so your account cannot be deleted. You do, however, have the right to vanish, which you can exercise by (1) requesting your user page (found at Special:Mypage) and/or user talk page (found at Special:Mytalk) be deleted, by adding the {{db-userreq}} template to them; (2) requesting to change your username to something that is unconnected with you (possibly a random collection of letters and numbers); (3) never logging in to your account again. If you do this, you are still free to register a new username if you wish to continue editing Wikipedia.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 05:30, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
Log In Failure
I've been unable to log in although I am quite sure I entered the correct information. User name Malcolm. Entered 2/17/08. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.13.71.2 (talk) 05:44, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
- Just in case, click that you forgot your password and it will be sent to the email address you signed up with. Wisdom89 (T / C) 07:33, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
- I think you have entered the wrong user name. User:Malcolm is an administrator on Wikipedia. Have a look at Special:Listusers?username=Malcolm to see if you can find out what name you registered with. • Anakin (talk) 15:12, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
User Name
How do I change my user nameFritz hagenquasher (talk) 05:58, 17 February 2008 (UTC) It is Fritz hagenquasher now and I would like to change it to Fritz Hagenquasher - basically capitalizing the last name.
- This might help [5] - but if you want a quick and easy way (if your contributions are limited), just sign up again. Wisdom89 (T / C) 06:51, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
- The user tried Wikipedia:Changing_username but left out the "|" between parameters. Another editor corrected the formatting of his request and I suspect that it will be approved. Sbowers3 (talk) 12:40, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
- Creating a new account would not have worked in this case as it is too similar to the existing name. • Anakin (talk) 15:16, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
Reliable sources, Facts and Perceptions
I noticed that the following sentence in the Gun politics in the United Statesarticle is inaccurate: "Also, Kruschke describes incidents where public political perceptions have been shaped by a few high profile violent crimes associated with automatic and semi-automatic weapons, resulting in a relatively small percentage of the crime in absolute numbers, none-the-less have brought public focus on that type of weapon." The problem being that:
- Automatic and semi-automatic firearms are significantly different in their operation
- Crimes involving semi-automatic firearms in the United States are not "relatively small percentage of the crime" or notable in any way when they happen
I am confident i can provide numerous reliable sources to back up those two points. The sentence could be made accurate by simply changing "automatic and semi-automatic" to "automatic" but then Kruschke could no longer be cited because that is not how he describes the perception. This is exacerbated by the fact that it is not exactly clear whose perception is being described. Any way, my "simple correction" now involves NPOV, verifiability, descriptions of perceptions, and reliable sources all in the context of a polarized political subject. My head hurts. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cyrus Vance (talk • contribs) 07:20, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
- Ah, you have found a nice non-controversial topic to work on <grin>. It seems the best place to work this out would be on the discussion page of the article in question. However, I think you have answered your own question: before you do any editing you need to find a new reference that will support the changes you wish to make. —Noah 17:46, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
Someone know what's wrong?
Does someone know what's going wrong in the footnotes at the bottom of List of Jewish American entertainers? Or, more importantly, does that someone want to fix it? :) •97198 talk 10:03, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
- Some errors with the ref tags. Fixed now. :) --PeaceNT (talk) 10:29, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
- Well, doesn't that look nicer? My hat off to you. •97198 talk 10:40, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
Adding a pointer to specific meaning to a page with template Wi
I've just created a (stub) article Devised theatre, and I find from the reference I've used that in the US, the usual phrase for this is collaborative creation. I was intending to create a redirect from this, but I find that there is already a page there, but with the 'Wi' template, so I'm not sure how best to proceed. Should I just add some sort of dab template, turn the page into a dab page, or what? --ColinFine (talk) 11:53, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
- Looking at it, I think that "Wi" template should have been removed as soon as somebody added content to the page. However, the content there still seems little more than a dictionary definition and some common sense about collaboration in general. Personally, I'd go ahead and replace the article with a redirect - if someone wants to write a decent article for a different meaning, we can sort out the disambiguation later. - IMSoP (talk) 17:32, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
- I went at made an attempt at addressing the issues using the {{for}} template. Feel free to change it if you think a redirect will work better. —Noah 17:41, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks for your replies. Encouraged by both of you, I have indeed replaced it by a redirect. --ColinFine (talk) 20:25, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
Checkuser
Does checkuser reveal a MAC address? 91.104.19.93 (talk) 12:57, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
- It seems not, but I don't know much about this stuff and may have misinterpreted m:Help:CheckUser. Algebraist 15:02, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
- A checkuser request will list the username, the time period when they edited from a given IP/range, the IP address, and XFF information. Seicer (talk) (contribs) 16:31, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
- No, but I'm pretty sure it's a feature that's been requested. Confusing Manifestation(Say hi!) 22:14, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
Future timeline of Earth
Can I make a link User:Otolemur crassicaudatus/Future timeline of Earth in the See also section of the article Risks to civilization, humans and planet Earth. Otolemur crassicaudatus (talk) 13:52, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
- "See also" sections should only have links to Wikipedia articles. WP:SEEALSO --Silver Edge (talk) 14:05, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
Can I put the page under Category:Futurology and Category:Earth? Otolemur crassicaudatus (talk) 14:29, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
- You're probably best off not putting it anywhere that's considered part of the encyclopedia (rather than part of the structure and community of the site) if it's not in the main article namespace.
- In which case, the question you should probably be asking is whether that page belongs in the main article namespace - is there enough there to merit a new article, or is there an existing article to which it would make an appropriate addition? It seems like a nice summary to me, but we'd have to be careful about the criteria of what goes in there - what topics, whose predictions, etc.
- Perhaps you could attract more specific attention to the question on some relevant articles, Talk:Futurology or Talk:Future history, perhaps? Or at Wikipedia:WikiProject Time... - IMSoP (talk) 17:21, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
Converting article into a redirect
Where do I nominate Four Dead in Five Seconds Gunfight for redirection to Dallas Stoudenmire, where it is pretty much duplicated? It seems to me that it would likely be contested. Clarityfiend (talk) 15:24, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
- Redirection @ Wikipedia has information if the redirect is not controversial, but since you indicated it could be contested, it might be better to take it to WP:RFD. Seicer (talk) (contribs) 16:29, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
- I think what you want is to merge the two articles. You would place merge-to and merge-from templates on the two articles and start a discussion. Sbowers3 (talk) 18:05, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
3RR versus IP socks
Twice in two days I have been involved in edit warring over content where it is obviously just me against single purpose IP's that know how to WP:GAME using 3RR. What is the usual procedure to tackle this without violating 3RR? In both cases the IP's show no interest in using the talk page except to restate the two polar opinions, so there is no consensus for either version. MickMacNee (talk) 17:45, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
- The right place to bring this up would be the 3RR noticeboard or possibly the Incidents page. —Noah 17:49, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
- Those are quite sticky situations. I'd recommend taking a report to WP:AN/I, a lot of admins keep that page watchlisted and will take a look at what you say. If not, you can always ask an admin on their talk to take a look at a situation, I would be happy to look at it if you'd like. Keilana|Parlez ici 17:51, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
- Just wanted to know for the future is all. There seem to be a number of policies that cover it, I just wondered what most people do usually. MickMacNee (talk) 17:54, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
- Those are quite sticky situations. I'd recommend taking a report to WP:AN/I, a lot of admins keep that page watchlisted and will take a look at what you say. If not, you can always ask an admin on their talk to take a look at a situation, I would be happy to look at it if you'd like. Keilana|Parlez ici 17:51, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
bilingual help in Spanish
Hi, I created a page in Spanish and received a response on the page telling me the page needed to be wikified. However, I dont know what I need to do. Can you help?17:57, 17 February 2008 (UTC)17:57, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
- This is the English Wikipedia so generally it's a bad idea to post articles in languages other than English. This does happen from time to time. When it does {{translate}} article tags that will usually get slapped on the article. Sometimes the articles will get translated (if a translator gets to them in time) but sometimes they get deleted. The best thing to do would be to translate the article before creating it. If you are worried about your translation skills you could create the article as a user sub-page and ask for help translating it. —Noah 18:05, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
I should have mentioned that I created it in Spanish for Spanish Wikipedia. However, I need a little help discovering what I need to edit on the page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Carlosgg (talk • contribs) 18:16, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
- Ah. So you got the equivalent in the Spanish Wikipedia of "please Wikify this page"? To wikify is to link words to other articles. To do so, simply surround words that should be linked with double brackets. Example: [[Balkline and straight rail]], when saved will look like this Balkline and straight rail, and link to the article on that subject, already contained in Wikipedia, or if there is no article yet on the subject, the resulting link will be red. However, don't do this for every word you can. Please see Wikipedia:Only make links that are relevant to the context, which is, I'm sure, just as valid on the Spanish Wikipedia.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 19:24, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
- Wikifying is not just adding links; it's a few other things too. to make sure the format conforms to a usual Wikipedia article. See Wikipedia:Wikify and Category:Articles that need to be wikified, which gives instructions. It's pretty simple, really; like having no section heading before the first sentence; having the first sentence contain (usually) the same words as in the article title, and having these appear in bold type, etc. You can look at other Wikipedia articles to see what they look like, too. After you think you've wikified it, if you like you can post a message to my talk page with a link to the article (or its name if you can't figure out how to link to the Spanish Wikipedia) and I'll have a look at it to see if I think it's wikified. A link to the Spanish Wikipedia looks like this: es:Síndrome. Note that in theory I don't know any Spanish, though I know several related languages so I can kindof manage reading it a bit. --Coppertwig (talk) 20:01, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
- Also, I believe this is the relevant help page on the Spanish Wikipedia: Wikificar. —Noah 20:03, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
- The {{Google translation}} template makes the Spanish Wikipedia almost readable in English; from Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2007 October 13#Wikipedia translations:
- This template code:
{{Google translation|en|es|http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portada|The Googlefied Spanish Wikipedia}}
- produces this link: The Googlefied Spanish Wikipedia
- This template code:
- That might help the non-Spanish-speakers reading this to better understand what needs wikifying on the Spanish-language article. --Teratornis (talk) 04:07, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
- For example: The Googlefied: Wikificar which is just about readable in English. --Teratornis (talk) 04:12, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
- The {{Google translation}} template makes the Spanish Wikipedia almost readable in English; from Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2007 October 13#Wikipedia translations:
- Also, I believe this is the relevant help page on the Spanish Wikipedia: Wikificar. —Noah 20:03, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
How do I "Send a Link" from an article to my email?
Thank you, Faccia. Faccia (talk) 19:06, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
- I'm not 100% sure I know what you're after, but tell me if this is responsive. Go to any page on Wikipedia. If the URL of the page is not provided in an address bar in your browser, right click somewhere in the article, choose properties from the menu that appears. In either case, highlight the URL. Copy that highlighted URL by either going to your browser's edit menu and choosing "copy," or click control+c, which does the same thing. Go to the email you wish the link to appear in. Paste the link into it, by either going to your browser's edit menu and choosing "paste," or click control+v, which does the same thing.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 19:14, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
- Another place to get the URL of an article is by right-clicking on the "article" tab at the top of the article (just right of the Wikipedia logo if you are using the default monobook skin. Select "Copy link location" from the context menu. Then paste that into your e-mail message. However, every browser I have used displays the article URL in the address bar at the top of the browser, so that's the most obvious place from which to copy the URL. The wording of the question is somewhat unclear, however: "How do I "Send a Link" from an article to my email?" An article may contain many different kinds of links, so it is not clear which link you want to send "to my email." And does "to my email" mean you want to send the link to yourself in an e-mail message, or do you want to send the link to your e-mail message composer window where you edit a message to someone else? --Teratornis (talk) 04:00, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
Sum and Limit Operators
I was on the sandbox and just messing around typing in meaningless formulas and I typed this in. If you will notice, the limit and sum operators are not working. The limit should look like this and the sum, like this . Why isn't it doing that and how can I make it? Thanks, Zrs 12 (talk) 19:34, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
What you wrote:
Same thing, but with \displaystyle inserted just before \lim:
To force the display the way you originally had it, you can write \textstyle. I don't know how textstyle got activated; you could play around to see whether one of the operators you were using automatically turns on textstyle or something. Anyway, whenever that happens you can just insert a \displaystyle. Ah, I reckon it's the square root sign that might automatically turn on textstyle, so that the stuff can fit nicely under the radical sign. Just guessing. --Coppertwig (talk) 19:53, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks! Zrs 12 (talk) 19:57, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
- It's not the square root. Compare to . No \textstyle or \displaystyle were used. Being in a denominator is apparently enough to get the low-height format as default. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:02, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
- Go to the Reference desk next time. Visit me at Ftbhrygvn (Talk|Contribs|Log|Userboxes) 14:42, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
Putting a contribution list on a watchlist
Is it possible to put a contribution list on a watchlist? I.e., a new contribution by that editor appears on the watchlist? Wanderer57 (talk) 19:39, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
- Not that I know of - as far as I know only pages can be watchlisted. jj137 (talk) 19:40, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
- Same here, don't think that's possible. If you want to monitor a user's contributions (for wiki-protective purposes only - see WP:STALK), then I suggest placing the user page on your watchlist and the latest pages he/she has contributed to. Wisdom89 (T / C) 20:28, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
- Bug #470 is a request to implement such a feature, but in over three years no specific reason has been given for not implementing it. However it would have a huge potential for abuse and stalking by some editors, and even if used in good faith, may waste lots of editors' time watching others instead of doing something constructive. In short, it's not possible. I think it's actually better being not possible. • Anakin (talk) 20:59, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
- Same here, don't think that's possible. If you want to monitor a user's contributions (for wiki-protective purposes only - see WP:STALK), then I suggest placing the user page on your watchlist and the latest pages he/she has contributed to. Wisdom89 (T / C) 20:28, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
- But you can make it a bookmark in your browser. Sbowers3 (talk) 22:03, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
How to "copy/paste" onto "search" line using a Widget?
Dear Wikipedia Advisor,
I have access to Wikipedia "search" using Widget on my Mac. How can I use the EDIT function "copy/paste," on my computer without the widget disappearing as I attempt to "paste?" Or, is there some other way to maintain fulltime access on my desktop to a Wikipedia's science glossary/dictionary? Currently, the only alternitive I am aware of, is to fully "open up" Wikipedia, which is awkward when I already have something else downloaded (from the internet).
I appreciate any help you can provide.
Loyde —Preceding unsigned comment added by Loydeyates (talk • contribs) 20:38, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
Ogg files
Many Wikipedia audio files are .ogg file types. What program opens them? My computer doesn't know. Thanks, George D. Watson (Dendodge).TalkHelp and assistance 21:42, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
- See Wikipedia:Media help (Ogg), basically most media players can play them with the right codecs installed. 86.21.74.40 (talk) 21:57, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
- If you go to a sound file's description page (such as Image:Example.ogg) an in-browser player should appear that is capable of playing the file. Hersfold (t/a/c) 00:06, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
Vandalism of Wikipedia:Introduction
Reverted vandalised page. Request putting a lockdown on all such pages (vide:[6]) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sarindam7 (talk • contribs) 21:46, 17 February 2008 (UTC) sarindam7 (talk) 21:46, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
- The place to request that is WP:RFPP. Make sure you read the instructions clearly, since just because a page is vandalised doesn't mean it's necessarily a candidate for protection. Confusing Manifestation(Say hi!) 22:11, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
- People are allowed to edit Wikipedia:Introduction. Some have said that we should not let them do this in order to keep the welcome mat clean, and leave test edits for the sandbox. However, normally, the bots automatically restore the page when the header is removed (people are supposed to edit below the header). Please note that I have reverted your addition of a {{pp-vandalism}} template. The template is not to be used as a bluff - only use it on pages actually protected (by Administrators). • Anakin (talk) 22:13, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
Got it.......sarindam7 (talk) 13:09, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
Big Band and Jazz Hall of Fame inductee(1993) John Kirby
How do I get in touch with the Hall of Fame committee? A phone number or address will do. THANK YOU. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.218.105.224 (talk) 22:24, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
- See their website: http://www.bigbandjazzorch.org/. The address is at the bottom of that page. Please note for future reference that the Help desk is for questions about using Wikipedia; factual questions should be asked at the Wikipedia:Reference desk. • Anakin (talk) 22:33, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
Images problem
I am using Windows Vista and IE. Recently I cannot see any images or charts on any Wikipedia page, including this one. Is there a setting to block images, or am a having problems. I used to be able to see the images. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.237.204.159 (talk) 23:12, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
- Here's something to try: Right-click on an image that won't load and click "Properties". Copy the URL of the image and paste it into the address bar directly. This will give you the actual file displayed directly. If it's being blocked by anything, it will display the message and reason there. This problem has been reported rather a lot lately and I'm not sure why... Let me know if that helps. • Anakin (talk) 18:33, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
Missing "File Link" after an album cover upload
Dear friends,
I've tried upload an image for an album cover using the upload tutorial in the original article page, an set all right (until now, I hope). I've made the Fair Use statement, after being asked to do it, but the File Link, in the bottom, remains without link to the original article (in this case a specific album related to the album cover). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:CCR_Chronicle_Vol2.jpg
I've received a message explaining that this image was orphan:
Thanks for uploading Image:CCR Chronicle Vol2.jpg. The media description page currently specifies that it is non-free and may only be used on Wikipedia under a claim of fair use. However, it is currently orphaned, meaning that it is not used in any articles on Wikipedia. If the media was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that media for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable for use on Wikipedia (see our policy for non-free media).
If you have uploaded other unlicensed media, please check whether they're used in any articles or not. You can find a list of 'image' pages you have edited by clicking on the "my contributions" link (it is located at the very top of any Wikipedia page when you are logged in), and then selecting "Image" from the dropdown box. Note that all non-free media not used in any articles will be deleted after seven days, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. Thank you. BetacommandBot (talk) 19:35, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
The question: How I made this orphan image article to be linked to the right article ?
- You can add an image to a page by linking to it as you would an article. For example, [[Image:Example.jpg|thumb|This is a caption]] would produce the image you see at right. For more help, see Help:Images. Hersfold (t/a/c) 00:04, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
Roller Coaster Infobox
To Whom This May Concern:
Hello:
I am in the process of creating a MediaWiki style site but I am stuck because I want an info box for all of the roller coasters. I was wanting to know if you could provide me the files and template sources for making the Infobox. If not, could you direct me to where I could have assistance in creating one? Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rcmolloy (talk • contribs) 23:44, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
- We can only really help you with using Wikipedia, however you may want to take a look at Template:Infobox roller coaster, as well as our MediaWiki:Common.css file. Hersfold (t/a/c) 23:59, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
- Also be aware that templates may require MediaWiki extensions which you will have to install on your wiki. One symptom that you need another extension is when you copy a template from Wikipedia to your wiki, and strange codes "bleed through" to the displayed page, instead of the wiki software converting the codes into what you expect. Compare the Special:Version page on your wiki to the one on Wikipedia, to see what extensions Wikipedia has that you don't. Also check your MediaWiki version on Special:Version; since you are just now creating your wiki, presumably you installed the most recent version of MediaWiki. The version running on Wikipedia is usually a few months ahead of what you can download, but the latest version for download should be recent enough. Another problem with copying templates from Wikipedia is that a given template may transclude many more templates, which in turn transclude other templates, and you have to recursively identify and copy all those dependencies. I wish MediaWiki had a simple template export feature. We have Special:Export, but currently it is not smart enough to package up everything you actually need to get a template that works here working on another MediaWiki wiki. (Currently I am trying to get {{Navbox}} working on another wiki, and it is turning out to be not simple.) --Teratornis (talk) 03:47, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
- This probably does not apply to your situation, but I found that the {{Navbox}} template only works on MediaWiki wikis that use HTML Tidy. According to a discussion on Meta-wiki, many templates on Wikipedia contain various HTML errors, and Wikipedia runs HTML Tidy which silently fixes these errors. The problem only shows up when someone tries to port such a template to another wiki that is not running HTML Tidy. After I installed HTML Tidy on a test copy of my wiki, the {{Navbox}} template magically began working correctly. That's yet another gotcha to keep in mind if you end up tearing your hair while trying to port templates from Wikipedia. Note: I had not run into this need for HTML Tidy before when I ported infobox templates from Wikipedia. I guess this is more likely to be a problem with more complex templates. Anyway, this is more evidence that while MediaWiki is easy to install, and is pretty easy to use after somebody sets it all up, the setting it all up part can sometimes get ugly. --Teratornis (talk) 00:02, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
- Also be aware that templates may require MediaWiki extensions which you will have to install on your wiki. One symptom that you need another extension is when you copy a template from Wikipedia to your wiki, and strange codes "bleed through" to the displayed page, instead of the wiki software converting the codes into what you expect. Compare the Special:Version page on your wiki to the one on Wikipedia, to see what extensions Wikipedia has that you don't. Also check your MediaWiki version on Special:Version; since you are just now creating your wiki, presumably you installed the most recent version of MediaWiki. The version running on Wikipedia is usually a few months ahead of what you can download, but the latest version for download should be recent enough. Another problem with copying templates from Wikipedia is that a given template may transclude many more templates, which in turn transclude other templates, and you have to recursively identify and copy all those dependencies. I wish MediaWiki had a simple template export feature. We have Special:Export, but currently it is not smart enough to package up everything you actually need to get a template that works here working on another MediaWiki wiki. (Currently I am trying to get {{Navbox}} working on another wiki, and it is turning out to be not simple.) --Teratornis (talk) 03:47, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
search history
how can you clear your search history? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Joshuaaldrich (talk • contribs) 23:51, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
- That depends on what browser you're using. In Firefox, go to Tools -> Options... -> Privacy -> Clear Private Data. Make sure your settings for that option include search history. For another browser, you'll have to wait until someone using that browser comes by or check your own help files. We can only offer assistance with using Wikipedia. Hersfold (t/a/c) 00:01, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
- In IE6, Go to Tools → Internet Options → Clear History. • Anakin (talk) 00:30, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
- In IE7, click 'Tools > Delete Browsing History'. Thanks, George D. Watson (Dendodge).TalkHelp and assistance 14:54, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
February 18
Porn sites
Are links to porn sites that contain XXX images and sell adult vidoes and require age verification allowed in articles? AgnosticPreachersKid (talk) 01:24, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
- This is a serious question btw...I'm coming across many articles that contain links to hardcore porn and trying to remove them ends up with people upset at me. AgnosticPreachersKid (talk) 01:34, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
- Rationales for linking (and not linking) are at WP:EL. The direct answer to your question is "it depends". For specific cases, you might want to ask at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Pornography. -- Rick Block (talk) 02:01, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
- Ok, edits like this [7] is what I'm trying to deal with today. I'm getting a little frustrated. AgnosticPreachersKid (talk) 02:07, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
- Many of those are also blogs and personal web-sites that are not generally allowed under policy. Also of related note, Wikipedia is not censored and may contain content that some find offensive or objectionable.
- Can you elaborate on what pages that you find content that is offensive in terms of hardcore pornography? In general, if the links are there only to advertise a web-site and do not relate to the article in itself, it can be removed. Seicer (talk) (contribs) 05:05, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
- It's not acceptable. As a 13 year old who often clicks external links I would get into a lot of trouble if my Mum saw my browsing history. It shouldn't cause outrage as Wikipedia is not a gateway to porn and anybody who is stupid enough to think so will not be intelligent enough to protest. Thanks, George D. Watson (Dendodge).TalkHelp and assistance 14:51, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
- Ok, edits like this [7] is what I'm trying to deal with today. I'm getting a little frustrated. AgnosticPreachersKid (talk) 02:07, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
- Rationales for linking (and not linking) are at WP:EL. The direct answer to your question is "it depends". For specific cases, you might want to ask at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Pornography. -- Rick Block (talk) 02:01, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
Personal pages
What's the difference between a celebrity that is more known than me, a local legend ?
If I wait until someone writes a wikipedia page on me, it might taken 20 years, and it might be wrong. If I write it, it will be accurate. And yes, I can make it unbiased, and only basic enough to be certifiable.
If a moderator decides "I don't know who this person is" and deletes it, is that fair?
If I Google myself and get 60 responses, and someone who was already featured in WP has 2000 responses, then does that make them more worthy of not having their page deleted?
If it does get deleted, and I put it up again with some additions or modifications, could that get me blacklisted or banned ?
Thanks DaveDodgy (talk) 03:44, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
- See WP:BIO for our biography guidelines. If you are not notable enough for Wikipedia yet, you can always start your biography on WikiBios, which accepts biographies about any human. (I'm not sure if they restrict it to humans.) Also, we refer to administrators on Wikipedia rather than moderators, although you have the basic idea about how they work. --Teratornis (talk) 03:51, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
- An admin is not supposed to delete an article because they “don’t know who this person is.” Rather they remove it because it because it does not assert the notability of the person, because it does not back up the assertion of notability with references to reliable independent sources, because it is written like a PR piece rather than an encyclopedia article, or because it is plagiarized for a copyrighted source. --—teb728 t c 04:26, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
- They probably aren't supposed to, but some admins do apparently say I wouldn't know him from a hole in the ground. (I guess it's easier to laugh when it's someone else's article getting deleted.) --Teratornis (talk) 04:58, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
- In answer to your question, recreating a deleted article won’t get you blocked, but the article might be deleted sooner if it doesn’t seem to be improved. If you recreate it multiple times, the title would be protected to prevent recreation. —teb728 t c 05:15, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
- You're misinterpreting Wikipedia:I wouldn't know him from a hole in the ground to be equivalent to WP:IDONTKNOWIT, which it's not at all. What the page says is that even after reading about the subject in the article, "I wouldn't know him from a hole in the ground;" i.e., the article doesn't assert any significance/importance by citation to reliable sources, and thus meets CSD A7.68.237.221.83 (talk) 13:27, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
- Actually, repeatedly recreating a deleted article may get you blocked, but probably only after someone's tried to talk to you about it and you keep doing it without responding to them. Confusing Manifestation(Say hi!) 21:54, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
- An admin is not supposed to delete an article because they “don’t know who this person is.” Rather they remove it because it because it does not assert the notability of the person, because it does not back up the assertion of notability with references to reliable independent sources, because it is written like a PR piece rather than an encyclopedia article, or because it is plagiarized for a copyrighted source. --—teb728 t c 04:26, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
Disambiguate on a re-directed article
Case in point:
The Kings Royal (band) needs a disambiguation link on The Kings Royal
The Kings Royal is re-directed to Eldora Speedway
Put disambiguation link on The Kings Royal or on Eldora Speedway?
Duckweb (talk) 06:44, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
- I did much shuffling here. I think it's in good shape now. Kings Royal and The Kings Royal (band) redirect to The Kings Royal (and that hatnotes out to the dab and the race), King's Royal and The King's Royal redirect to Eldora Speedway (which hatnotes out to the dab), and the dab is now at King's Royal (disambiguation). -- JHunterJ (talk) 14:49, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
Google image search
Hi. Why doesn't Google seem to index Wikipedia images? These searches should get dozens of results, but don't:
- http://images.google.com/images?q=scooter+site:wikipedia.org
- http://images.google.com/images?q=hat+site:wikipedia.org
Compare with:
- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?ns6=1&search=scooter&fulltext=Search
- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?ns6=1&search=hat&fulltext=Search
(It's probably in an faq somewhere, but I can't find it.) Thanks. -- Quiddity (talk) 07:05, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
- Comparing the Results info, it appears that Google doesn't support searching websites for images like that
Results 1 - 10 of about 7,110 from wikipedia.org for scooter. (0.22 seconds)
- for a normal web search, compared to
Results 1 - 7 of 7 for scooter site:wikipedia.org. (0.01 seconds)
—Mr.Z-man 07:31, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
- Hmmm. Any idea how to restrict the results to only images that come from our domain? The majority of those results are unrelated to our domain, or the subject matter. Using their advanced search gives this string, which still doesn't work:
- Thanks :) -- Quiddity (talk) 07:49, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
- I just did my search using the domain en.wikipedia.org, instead of the more general version. I got largely the same results, however I think I know what the problem is. You're finding images from all over the web because people all over the web are using images that were originally uploaded to Wikipedia. Clicking through all of my results, the images are all from our domain, even if the site using them is unrelated. It just turns out that the text of the site displaying the image is getting a higher hit rate than the original image description page here. Unfortunately, I can't find any way to restrict the images further. Hersfold (t/a/c) 16:36, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
fairly used metalworking center lathe machine.
i am interested in purchasing a fairly used metalworking lathe machine in the uk, pls give me the companies addresses. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.204.224.33 (talk) 08:51, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
- Have you tried Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. I hope this helps. Vivio TestarossaTalk Who 09:10, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
Understanding "ATP"
What is Tennis ATP rankings? What is Tennis ATP race? How does it work? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.162.3.145 (talk) 08:55, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
- Have you tried Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. I hope this helps. Vivio TestarossaTalk Who 09:11, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
original registration number
≈§−≥p86.140.104.13 (talk) 10:21, 18 February 2008 (UTC)pMY MATE IS THE OWNER OF A 1958 FORD DEXTA TRACTOR BUT HAS NO REG DOCUMENTS OR LOG BOOK, WE KNOW WHO SUPPLIED THE TRACTOR WHEN NEW BUT THEY HAVE NOW CEASED TRADING,HE WOULD LIKE TO GET THE ORIGINAL REGISTRATION NUMBER, WE HAVE BEEN IN TOUCH WITH DVLA AND THEY SAID CONTACT THE MANUFACTURER WHO SHOULD BE ABLE TO PRODUCE IT,I HOPE YOU CAN BE OF ASSISTANCE,I BELIEVE THE TRACTOR WAS MADE IN DAGENHAM SO PERHAPS I NEED TO CONTACT THEM, ANY INFORMATION YOU CAN GIVE ME OR THE PERSON WHO MIGHT BE ABLE TO POINT ME IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION WOULD BE MOST APPRECIATED,
MANY THANKS I LOOK FORWARD TO YOUR REPLY REGARDS PERCY F W FEAR86.140.104.13 (talk) 10:21, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
- Have you tried Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. I hope this helps. Stifle (talk) 11:26, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
- I have located a Ford tractors discussion forum which I thought might be of some use to you. By the way, you may not be aware of it but typing in all caps on the internet is, by long standing convention, seen as shouting. Best of luck.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 16:05, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
ABOUT ELCB
I WANT TO KNOW THE WORKING OF ELCB(EARTH LEAKAGE CIRCUIT BREAKER) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pandeyanant9999 (talk • contribs) 11:04, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
- Check out Residual-current device. Stifle (talk) 11:25, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
- Did you read ELCB which redirects to Earth leakage circuit breaker? Sbowers3 (talk) 15:37, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
Big Brother 9 page STILL unverifiable
I took all the routes given to me regarding the Big Brother 9 page, but once again those in CONTROL of the page, essentially ownership, win and continue to post unverifiable information. I dont care if the information are spoilers anymore, really, but live feeds are NOT verifiable sources and they don't seem to get this. What can I do now? —Preceding unsigned comment added by RMThompson (talk • contribs) 13:48, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
- Well, as we've been telling you on the articles talk page (where this discussion belongs), consensus overrules your opinion on the content. Until the consensus changes, this isn't going to help anything. - Rjd0060 (talk) 16:29, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
- Consensus on an article's talk page doesn't over-ride the underlying principles of Wikipedia, including verifiability! At this point, it looks like RMThompson may have to file a notice with the appropriate noticeboard. --Orange Mike | Talk 18:40, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
- The information added can be easily verified, and the only problem I see is that people sometimes aren't adding reference links at the time of adding the content. - Rjd0060 (talk) 01:52, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
- Consensus on an article's talk page doesn't over-ride the underlying principles of Wikipedia, including verifiability! At this point, it looks like RMThompson may have to file a notice with the appropriate noticeboard. --Orange Mike | Talk 18:40, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
how to arrange images side by side in a page
I tried arranging three images side by side in a page after the content, I was not successful in doing so i want the procedure for doing so. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kalivd (talk • contribs) 14:55, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
- You might want to use a WP:Gallery tag. Algebraist 15:56, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
Seeing who wrote a particular sentence in an article
I'm familiar with the history and with the diff feature, but I'm looking for something slightly different. There's an article where I am slightly suspicious of a claim and would like to try to figure out who and when put it in to ask them what it's about. Any trick or tool to do this? I know we can slap on fact tags etc, but an informal discussion with whoever put it in would be the best solution here, but I can't wade through oodles of prior versions to zero in on it manually.
Thanks! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Martinp (talk • contribs) 15:10, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
- What I do is an approximation of a Binary search. Let's say there are 1,000 edits. Go back about halfway, to about the 500th edit. Is the sentence there? If so, then go back further to about the 250th edit; if not, then go further forward to about the 750th edit. Each time you divide in half - it's either in the first half or the second half. For an article with 1000 edits, it would take at most 10 tries to narrow down to the specific diff that added that sentence. If you tell us the article, I'll be more specific. Sbowers3 (talk) 15:34, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
- It was on Max Keeping. Your suggestion is a good one, but still somewhat time consuming. I've instead asked on the article talk page. Martinp (talk) 16:02, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
- If you can't find it on WikiBlame let me know the sentence and I will find it for you. Sbowers3 (talk) 17:47, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
- You might have luck with WikiBlame, which searches for given text in revisions of an article. --Teratornis (talk) 16:47, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
- It was on Max Keeping. Your suggestion is a good one, but still somewhat time consuming. I've instead asked on the article talk page. Martinp (talk) 16:02, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
Cancelling an account
Hi there. Would you please be able to give me information as to how I may cancel the account Keith1234? Best wishes, and thank you for the good service. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Keith1234 (talk • contribs) 15:56, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
- Due to the fact that Wikipedia content is licensed under the GFDL, all edits must be kept for attribution purposes, and so your account cannot be deleted. You do, however, have the right to vanish, which you can exercise by (1) requesting your user page (found at Special:Mypage) and/or user talk page (found at Special:Mytalk) be deleted, by adding the {{db-userreq}} template to them; (2) requesting to change your username to something that is unconnected with you (possibly a random collection of letters and numbers); (3) never logging in to your account again. If you do this, you are still free to register a new username if you wish to continue editing Wikipedia.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 15:58, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
Template Problems
I am trying to figure out why Kent State's template is not showing up at all and why the Rutgers template shows up but without the collapsable "show" on the right... the others for some reason show up correctly.. this problem is beyond my area of expertise. Thank you for your time and help. For the issue at hand see Gary Waters.--Josh (talk) 17:37, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
Problem fixed by User:Soxred93 --Josh (talk) 17:46, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
Help with userpage
I am trying to put that in my userpage, but it links to the image itself, not the new sections of my talk page. Is there a way to disable linking to the image? Thanks, RJRocket53 (talk) 18:15, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
- Try this:
{{Click |image = Click to Leave A Message.png |width = 300 px |link = http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User_talk:RJRocket53&action=edit§ion=new |desc = none }}
- That doesn't work, when I click the link, it comes up with a "This page doesn't exist" page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by RJRocket53 (talk • contribs) 18:37, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
- It seems that the {{click}} template only supports internal wikilinks, not the sort of link that's required for editing a page. I thought I could fix this by using the ImageMap extension directly, but it seems to have the same limitation. If this is so, it might not be possible to link it in the way you want. • Anakin (talk) 19:10, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
- You're right, damn, thought I had it. I just tried a couple of work arounds without luck. Sorry.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 19:24, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
- That's OK, I just put a regular link. "Click here to leave a message" —Preceding unsigned comment added by RJRocket53 (talk • contribs) 19:27, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
- You're right, damn, thought I had it. I just tried a couple of work arounds without luck. Sorry.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 19:24, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
- It seems that the {{click}} template only supports internal wikilinks, not the sort of link that's required for editing a page. I thought I could fix this by using the ImageMap extension directly, but it seems to have the same limitation. If this is so, it might not be possible to link it in the way you want. • Anakin (talk) 19:10, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
- That doesn't work, when I click the link, it comes up with a "This page doesn't exist" page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by RJRocket53 (talk • contribs) 18:37, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
Okay I think I have it now, try this:
--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 19:47, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
- That doesn't work on my browser. However, a bug with ampersands in external links in imagemaps was fixed recently; when the change goes live (within a few days, hopefully), maybe one of your earlier tries will work. --ais523 20:06, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
- Fuhghettaboutit's version works (more or less) if you move the last </div> to be after the image. Algebraist 20:07, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
- For now I'll use
- Fuhghettaboutit's version works (more or less) if you move the last </div> to be after the image. Algebraist 20:07, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
Click here to leave a message... | |||
RJRocket53 (talk) 01:46, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
What about this:
212.123.186.64 (talk) 10:05, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
Quotation marks around title
I created three redirect pages to the History of Pennsylvania State University, and two of the three redirects ended up with unintended quotation marks around the titles. Any thoughts on how that happened, so I can avoid that mistake in the future, and how I might change the present titles of "Pennsylvania State College" and "Farmers' High School of Pennsylvania"? --Pat (talk) 18:33, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
- Probably, when you searched for those subject lines, you put the quotation marks in the search box (not useful in Wikipedia search). When you found that there was no such article, you created a new article with the quotation marks intact! I've moved these to better places now. --Orange Mike | Talk 18:38, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
uncertain how to report abuse
Hi, I apologize for sending this to you if you're the wrong forum...I have reported small instances of content abuse in the past but could not navigate the directions this time. I'm not a member and don't feel up to tagging people as vandals or getting into switching content myself, but would like to pass along that the "George Washington" page has had "Early Life" changed to "Sex Life," with the witticism, "YO YOUR GAY" added at the top. Was hoping somebody might be able to help clean that up. Thanks, and sorry again if I've missed how to handle this. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hedgehog3 (talk • contribs) 18:48, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
- Hi. I had a look through the history of that page, and couldn't find the specific instance of vandalism you're referring to, although it seems to have been reverted now. I have also purged the page to make sure it has been rebuilt from cache. It should be fixed now, although if you're still seeing the vandalized version, have a look at Wikipedia:Bypass your cache to make sure you're seeing the latest version of the article. Hope this helps. • Anakin (talk) 18:58, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
Logging in
Okay, so when I type in www.wikipedia.org, then click English, it takes me to the main page. The top of the page says "Log In / Create Account". But if I type something into the search box, like "WT:RFA" or anything else, that page will load and I will be logged in. Is this a new "feature" or should I change something so that my login credentials will show on the main page? I just can't get it to show that I'm logged in at the main page. If I wanted to edit the page, I couldn't because I'm not "logged in". Useight (talk) 19:43, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
- P.S. - Apparently others have been having this problem as well. Useight (talk) 19:45, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
- P.P.S. - I'm using Windows XP Pro and browsing with IE6. Useight (talk) 19:46, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
- It sounds like the initial Main Page that you see might be being cached in some way, so that even though you're logged in it's not showing it. Next time this happens try the instructions at Wikipedia:Bypass your cache (normally by pressing Ctrl + F5) to reload the page, to see if that shows you logged in. I have heard of some strange login problems lately though. • Anakin (talk) 19:49, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
- Hey Anakin, yeah as you may have guessed, it's a global problem. We've (many of us) detailed the symptoms and published our work-arounds. Lots of chatter from many of us but as of this time stamp it seems that the folks who can fix it aren't around right now! -- hydnjo talk 20:34, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
Also see: Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)#Being logged out, Wikipedia:Village pump (assistance)#Wikipedia keeps logging me out after restarting browser, Wikipedia:Help desk#Logging in, Wikipedia:Help desk#Interesting log in problem, Wikipedia:Help desk#Logging out everytime I close my Browser, Wikipedia:Help desk#Frequent Logouts and more I'm sure. --hydnjo talk 20:26, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
comment request templates
i need help properly placing the requested comments templates here. At [Talk:Potrero Hills]. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Boomgaylove (talk • contribs) 20:57, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
Yogh
Doubtless this is a very simple question, but I don't have the technical knowhow to deal with it. How do I write the letter yogh when quoting Middle English text? It isn't included in my character map, and if I cut and paste it from Middle English texts elsewhere on the Web I just get a square instead. Is Unicode the answer, and if so how do I use Unicode? Antiquary (talk) 21:28, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
- Write the uppercase letters and lowercase letters as
{{latinx|Ȝ}}
and{{latinx|ȝ}}
respectively; this produces Template:Latinx and Template:Latinx. The {{latinx}} template is a workaround for Internet Explorer's handling of Unicode, and doesn't affect other browsers. (I got the hexadecimal codes required from the article for the letter.) --ais523 21:36, 18 February 2008 (UTC)- And to answer in more general terms: Unicode is a set of characters extended beyond what most traditional character sets supported. To use it in an article, you can either copy-and-paste the required character from somewhere, or write a hexadecimal (or in some cases named) code between an ampersand and semicolon. In both cases a fix is usually needed for the display to work in Internet Explorer 6 (and maybe 7, I don't know), and the exact template needed depends on which character you used (normally {{unicode}}, although apparently not in this case). (The edit view will appear incorrectly in IE6 if the first method is used, even with a font correction template.) The correct hexidecimal code is ampersand, hash, x, then some hexadecimal (which is normally listed in the article about the character), then a semicolon. Hope that helps! --ais523 21:40, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
February 19
Hi
Hi, I found an article about a guy I know, but I am sure he is not notable enough to be mentioned in an encyclopedia. Please see Robert Gardiner. What should I do about this? Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.77.247.53 (talk) 01:10, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
- First off, make sure you know what we consider to be notable. For people, we have a specific guideline at WP:BIO, however if he fails those criteria, the more general criteria at WP:N may also apply. If you don't believe he is notable (which does appear to be possible, just at a glance), here are some options:
- Be Bold. If you can improve the article, do so! The main thing it seems to suffer from are a lack of references for verification, however there are also issues with a neutral point of view and possibly some other things as well. If you can edit the article to justify his notability and improve the style errors, there's no need to delete it.
- Mark for cleanup. If you're not comfortable making these changes yourself, you can add cleanup templates to indicate to other editors that the article needs work. Again, if the problems are fixed, there's no need to worry.
- Nominate for deletion. Deletion should really be a last resort, but if there is no chance of meeting our inclusion policies, this is the way to go. The best deletion procedure for this article would probably be Articles for Deletion, where editors discuss the merits and failures of the article in terms of our guidelines and policies to determine its fate. In order to complete the nomination, however, you will need to create an account. You may not be able to finish the nomination procedure until your account is at least four days old, as the nomination requires creating a new page. Alternatively, you can provide a valid reason for deletion here and we'll list the page for you. Please note, however, that there are certain arguments to avoid and you will also need to fully familiarize yourself with our deletion policy beforehand.
- I hope this helps! Let me know if you still have any questions. Hersfold (t/a/c) 01:56, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
Query on "Did you know..." section
Dear Sir/Madam,
I just want to quickly understand how Wikipedia chooses these topics for the "Did you know..." sections on the front page. I do not visit Wikipedia as much as I would like, but this is usually a good source of general knowledge. I try to visit Wikipedia daily, and the "Did you know..." section serves as a very good starting point for me.
Thus my first reason for understanding how Wikipedia works on this subject. Does Wikipedia chooses the topics on that section automatically? or does it do so by certain editors or specific contributors? I generally find the site very well run, but recently on a couple of occasions, I find that there were feeds on Singapore that are downright mundane, but highly suspicious of mild propaganda to promote the city.
Today's example is: "did you know..... that during the construction of Centennial Tower in Singapore, the tower rose 20 storeys in just three months?"
I am only recalling from memory, but a few days ago, it was something like: did you know... that after the construction of Circle Line MRT, Singapore will have the highest density of railway per sq mile in Asia... or something similar. I do not remember the actual entry, but I hope you understand my point that this is entirely useless, very vague on information, and highly suspicious of self promotion.
What I wonder and worry about, is whether Wikipedia is being used as a base for some form of soft advertisement, whether there are any checks to guard against this, and what should we do if we start to see a worrying amount of propaganda, non-specific to any city/country?
Is it possible for Wikipedia or users to check if specific people (or IP addresses) are consistently promoting their interests on Wikipedia, or vice versa?
Thanks for your help and insight, Ian —Preceding unsigned comment added by FB002310 (talk • contribs) 06:08, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
- Hi there! I've divided your post into three questions:
- 1) How does the "Did you know?" feature on the front page work?
- There is a whole system behind submitting, writing, and posting DYK items which can be found at Wikipedia:Did you know.
- 2)What measures are taken to prevent the misuse of wikipedia? (as an advertisement, propaganda, so on...)
- Wikipedia strives to maintain a Neutral point of view but because anybody can edit, sometimes separate opinions sneak through. We do have a set of rules that hope to deter these practices.
- 3)Is it possible for wikipedia users to check if specific people (or I{ addresses) are promoting their interests?
- Each page on wikipedia saves every edit that is made to it in the Page history. There, every user or IP that has edited a page can be located. From there (or from the user's User page) the user's contributions can be found. From there editing trends can be discovered. However, it is wikipedia's policy to focus on content not conduct. As such, the articles are usually re-written or modified to remove the material in question.
- I hope this helps! Welcome to wikipedia. If you have any other questions, feel free to post here or on my talk page and I (or somebody else) would be happy to help! Cheers! --omtay38 06:19, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
Safari issues?
I'm not sure which obscure help page this question belongs on so I'm coming here with it... For the last week or so, whenever I come here to Wikipedia on either my G4 or my MacBook, the main page will not show me as logged in. Although, if I hit the log in link in the upper right of the page, all the usual links for my userpage, talk page, etc. will show up and everything else shows up as if I'm logged in. I'd think this was a cookie issue if it were just on one system but it's on both. I run Safari on both systems, so is there a new bug with Safari? Dismas|(talk) 09:37, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
- Please see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#Log_in_.2F_.27remember_me.27_problems and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Help_desk#Logging_in_2 on this page. 212.123.186.64 (talk) 09:46, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
- Ah! Thanks! I should have searched first... Dismas|(talk) 09:59, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
Vandalism
I was wondering how I could get rid vandalism. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Valtoras (talk • contribs) 11:06, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
How to export the picture file?
I am trying to export my articles on Wikipedia back to my personal wiki. It is easy to export the articles, but I can not export the pictures which are in these articles. Is there any way to export the pictures, including the introduction pages of pictures? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Abhaac (talk • contribs) 12:35, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
- This question and the following one suggest you have your own personal wiki running on the MediaWiki software. Evidently you found the Special:Export (works on Wikipedia) and Special:Import (only admins can use it) features which allow you to easily export the text of articles from Wikipedia as XML code and import it on your wiki. Images, unfortunately, do not travel conveniently in XML format. I haven't tried exporting many pictures from Wikipedia yet; the few I have exported, I exported in the obvious but not clever way: right-click an image in Wikipedia, select Save image as... from the Web browser's context menu, then use Special:Upload on my own wiki. That's awkward but tolerable for a few images. If you want to import thousands of images into your wiki, then you will need a more efficient method. I have not looked for such a method but one must exist, because lots of people mirror Wikipedia and they can't be doing it by hand. You could start by reading WP:DUMP. Also, the Wikipedia Help desk is not the most appropriate place to ask questions about administering your own MediaWiki wiki. Instead you should ask at mw:Project:Support desk. Most of the technical information about running your own MediaWiki wiki is on two other wikis, and you can search them with Google by using the following two links from the Template:Google_custom/doc#Examples#examples on the {{Google custom}} template page (you may want to bookmark these search links):
- For example, you can search both wikis for "how to export images":
- Some of those search results may be relevant to your question. --Teratornis (talk) 17:59, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
How to set the editing permission of guest?
I am trying to build my personal wiki site, and I got a question. For an administrator, can I prevent the articles from the editing of un-login guests? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Abhaac (talk • contribs) 12:39, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
- Yes. Wikipedia:Page protection says that semi-protection can be done for "User pages, but not user talk pages, when requested by the user." So any admin should be able to do this for you. I suggest waiting a few hours to see if any admin responds to your question here, and if not, then listing your user page at Wikipedia:Requests for page protection. Semi-protection means that users must be logged in with accounts at least 4 days old to be able to edit. Your account is more than 4 days old, so you will still be able to edit. --Coppertwig (talk) 13:52, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
- People say "wiki site" about different things. Coppertwig assumed your question was about your user page User:Abhaac here at Wikipedia. I guess it is about your own wiki unrelated to Wikipedia but using the same MediaWiki software. See mw:Manual:Preventing access. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:56, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
Wikipedia's Maps
Hello, I was seeking a map of Europe, c.1710, after the War of the Spanish Succession besides the ones provided on that article, and I decided I needed to make it myself. So my question is what program is used to create a lot of the maps on wikipedia that look like the one below?
--24.177.120.98 (talk) 14:07, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
Manually updating signatures after change of username
I am in the process of changing my username. Since I have been active on some talk pages, my (old) signature is scattered all over the place. WP:RENAME states:
- This change will not affect signatures you have already left on talk pages, or other places where you signed your username with ~~~~. Those pages will continue to display your signature (including the link to your old username) unless edited manually.
However, I could not find any guidelines on how acceptable it is to manually update these signatures. I guess it should be no problem for user talk pages (expect old vandal warnings, which are not important) and article talk pages, but what about archived discussions (on all types of talk namespaces)? For the time being, I will be maintaining a link (such as {{Doppelganger}} or {{UserUsur}}) from my old username to my new one, but I might eventually decide to erase it. Any opinions or precedents would be appreciated. CounterFX (talk) 14:09, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
- I wouldn't worry, just change it on non-archived versions (as many as you can) and nobody will be bothered about the archived ones. Just put a link to your new userpage at the top of your old one so people can get to the right place (or even redirect it). Thanks, George D. Watson (Dendodge).TalkHelp and assistance 14:27, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
Offensive Edit summaries
Not sure if anything should be done for use of offensive edit summaries [8]) Vivio TestarossaTalk Who 14:29, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
- I'm pretty sure accounts can be blocked if it happens too much. Thanks, George D. Watson (Dendodge).TalkHelp and assistance 14:32, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
- I've dropped him a moderately-worded note on his talk page. If he persists, you'll need to file a report at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard. --Orange Mike | Talk 14:44, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
- Or you can report at WP:AIV. Note that reports are normally not acted upon unless the person has been warned up through a final warning. Accordingly, if it becomes necessary, you can follow up the now second stern warning with a final warning and report if the same conduct continues thereafter. I do not believe there is a dedicated final warning for inappropriate edit summaries ( but see WP:UTM and the templates there in "level 4" for the general format of a final warning ({{Uw-npa4}} is close for this conduct).--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 15:04, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
- I've dropped him a moderately-worded note on his talk page. If he persists, you'll need to file a report at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard. --Orange Mike | Talk 14:44, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
How can I find a question and answer that was posed by a coworker of mine about a month ago?
How can I find a question and answer that was posed by a coworker of mine about a month ago?198.57.13.68 (talk) 15:04, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
- First you can search the help desk archives, which are ordered by date. As you scroll between the pages that are about the right date, you can use your computer's find function (usually accessible by hitting cntrl+f) to search for text that was in the question, the section header, or your friends username or ip address. You can also hit the history button at the top of this page and again use find to search for your friend's post by username or ip name. Finally, you can go to the same history, find a date you think is a few days after your friend's date of posting, then click on the linked date which will show you the help desk as it existing on that date, and just scroll for the question, which should not yet have been archived at that time. A final option: you can use Google to search the help desk.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 15:12, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
Flickr review template?
Is there any equivalent to the Commons {{flickrreview}} template here on en? In particular, I'd like some way to tag an image as correctly licensed, in case a Flickr user later decides to delete the image or change the license on Flickr after it's been uploaded here. —Bkell (talk) 16:30, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
water pressure and surges
Iam trying to get back to a question i asked on aboutjanuary 14th.2008 and the replies thatwere made.how can i accessthis?robd —Preceding unsigned comment added by Robdoc77 (talk • contribs) 16:57, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
- http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Reference_desk/Science&diff=prev&oldid=185887863 here is one reply, scroll through the page versions to get the others.--KerotanLeave Me a Message Have a nice day :) 17:25, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
how to get connected to online library59.96.203.55 (talk) 17:38, 19 February 2008 (UTC)shekar
Single/Double spacing after period
I know it is an issue of personal preference, but would editing articles for the sole purpose of changing them to your preference, be considered disruptive? Astronaut (talk) 17:42, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
- It makes no difference to the rendered page whether there is one or two spaces after a period, so it would be pointless to edit a page just to change it. Is somebody doing that? Sometimes a dummy edit can be useful to make an edit summary, and changing number of spaces is one way to make a dummy edit. Or is this about rendered spaces made with or another method? PrimeHunter (talk) 18:37, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
- It does seem pretty pointless to me too, but an IP is indeed going round adding an extra space (regular space chars, not nbsp or something else), with no edit summary. I just find it creates an unnecessarilary large difference listing that is distracting when I look for potential vandalism. Astronaut (talk) 20:12, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
- If it's recurring then have you tried politely asking them to stop? Who is it? PrimeHunter (talk) 22:07, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
Deleting warnings
Is a user allowed to delete their warnings and templates from their talk page, or do they have to keep them for others to see? User 79.215.119.195 just deleted his 2 warnings, and I was wondering if this was allowed.
Thanks very much! -- Blake01 17:45, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
- No. It is considered bad practice to remove vandalism warnings from one's talkpages. It also causes confusion if the vandal carries on causing trouble, and further users and bots give out warnings, thinking the user hasn't been warned before. I'd revert the edits to bring back the warnings, and drop a note on his/her talkpage saying the removal of warnings is frowned upon. Lradrama 17:51, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks - all sorted now! -- Blake01 18:03, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
- OK, no problem. :-) Lradrama 18:04, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
- This is accepted practice yes, but I always thought that the removal of a warning may be viewed as the user understanding and acknowledging said warning, basically blanking it in good faith. Afterall, blanking the warnings does not actually remove them from Wikipedia. Wisdom89 (T / C) 18:42, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
Wikipedia:TALK#User talk pages says: Users may freely remove comments from their own talk pages, though archiving is preferred. They may also remove some content while archiving some. The removal of a warning is taken as evidence that the warning has been read by the user. Bovlb (talk) 20:29, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
ISBN links
Hi How do you make the ISBN links? I don't see any code when I go to edit this page.
Also,
Where is the little diamond (?) in the code for posting pictures? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 139.135.111.64 (talk) 17:53, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
- See Wikipedia:ISBN.
- Which diamond? See Help:Images and other uploaded files for how to post pictures. PrimeHunter (talk) 18:24, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
Coordinates
How do you get coordinates on your user page, like at the top of Grimsby and other location articles? Thanks, George D. Watson (Dendodge).TalkHelp and assistance 18:23, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
- The practical usage of coordinate markup in Wikipedia is described in the style guide for geographical coordinates. For use on maps and other services, parameters may also be required. A complete entry could for example be:
{{coord|51|28|40|N|0|0|6|W|type:landmark_scale:2000_region:GB}}
See also: Obtaining coordinates. Good luck! ~RayLast «Talk!» 18:52, 19 February 2008 (UTC)- Yeah thanks! I used a slightly simpler version but I wouldn't have found it without your help. Thanks, George D. Watson (Dendodge).TalkHelp and assistance 19:12, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
Contacting members of Wikipedia casually
Where do I go to contact members of Wikipedia with unrelated Wikipedia comments? I just want to say a few things regarding similar interests... Do I post it on their discussion board, or would that be frowned upon? - tbone (talk) 18:26, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
- You may do such a thing, but bear in mind WP:TALK - you can give general comments, be friendly, give a compliment, but whole conversations are usually frowned upon. Some users make their email addresses available, so that is another route. Wisdom89 (T / C) 18:39, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
Suggestion
I'd like to know where and to whom I can submit a suggestion, which would be a pretty big overhaul of the user talk pages system used by Wikipedia. I have noticed that users always struggle with this when commenting and replying in user talk pages. When someone leaves a comment, do you reply on their talk page or on your own? If you do it on your own, will they see the reply? Have they set your talk page for watching? The result of this is almost always having half a conversation on one page and the other half on another page. Sometimes they even duplicate messages on both talk pages.
My suggestion is to have each comment section in a type of "template" in some Wikipedia Comments database, while only adding tags to all user talk pages of those who have participated (left a comment) in the section. Whenever someone edits the comment, they can do it on their own talk page, and even when it seems thay are editing their talk page, they are actually editing the template, so the changes will appear in all pages who have the tag. This way the full conversation will be visible in all user talk pages, and will never be duplicated. Every comment would have an ID (e.g. 00215468) and its template page has everything including the title, all messages and a list of all users who have commented on the section. When a user chooses to add a section to any user talk page nothing will be apparently different since the interface would remain the same, but they will be creating or editing a "template" without openly realizing it.
An example tag that would be included in user talk pages could be something like this:
{{Comment:00215468|title=Suggestion}}
Everytime the comment is edited, all users listed for the comment will receive the "new message" notice.
This would not apply for article discussion pages since it is better to keep those attached to their articles like they are now.
Where can I submit this suggestion? Thanks! ~RayLast «Talk!» 18:54, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
- You can send suggestions to Bugzilla, where developers and interested users can review and vote on your suggestion. Hersfold (t/a/c) 19:35, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
- Discussion of technical changes can also be done at the Village Pump/Technical. Something like this sounds like a good idea. Exactly as phrased, I'm afraid it will be difficult to implement. You may want to check out User_talk:Alphax/Threads for a possible implementation. JackSchmidt (talk) 19:45, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
Use of company name in a definition
Hello,
I have noticed that some company names appear as "providers" of technical solutions within a defition of a specific technology. I was under the impression that listeing providers (in the promotional sense) was not allowed. Specifically several of my company's competitors are listed as providers and we are not. I'm curious as to your policies about this. 64.119.142.198 (talk) 20:11, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
- Our policy on advertisements is at WP:SPAM. If you provide a link to the article in question, we can take a look at the situation. Hersfold (t/a/c) 20:29, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
Here's the URL for the article I'm referring to: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_asset_management
Specifically, the providers section.131.239.45.198 (talk) 20:35, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
- The section was removed by another user. Looking at the history, you were correct in bringing this up. Thanks! Hersfold (t/a/c) 21:22, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
- That whole article's a mess; but at least now it's a somewhat less spammy mess! --Orange Mike | Talk 21:27, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
Minot, ND page
I have tried to change the nickname of Minot, ND back to the right nickname, but something keeps putting the wrong name in. The wrong name that keeps getting put in, says the queefed city. Why does that wrong nickname keep staying in they?
Please change it back to the right nickname, which is the Magic City. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 165.234.210.59 (talk) 22:03, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
- Somebody vandalized the page. See Wikipedia:Vandalism. Thanks for fixing it. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:08, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
Six degrees of Wikipedia
Out of interest, has anyone got a working link for the Six Degrees of Wikipedia tool ? (On the article, the link provided [9] does not work, and I haven't managed to find any working one.)
Thanks. -- Xedi (talk) 22:11, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
Hi. Yesterday I tried to edit the antiquity section, but I ran out of time and I messed up the table. Can someone fix the table so I can keep adding more another time? Please do not remove any of the information, unless there is a single entry that only has one piece of information and it is not possible to align it into a table. I think I may have added the wrong number of | s or maybe I added an extra | - || - || - . Please help correct this error. Thanks. ~AH1(TCU) 22:10, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
- In [10] you made a short row for November 24 2037 BCE, and forgot |- to indicate a new row. I fixed it with empty cells and |- in [11]. Can you add more to the short row? PrimeHunter (talk) 22:25, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_S._Truman PORN!!!
When the fifth grade class at our school was doing presentations about the presidents of the U.S. one of the little girls clicked on the link <en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_S._Truman> from google She becane the innocent victim of PORN! and Hate pictures. I've already asked our IT director to block this page. Do we have to block the entire site to prevent other such incidents?! Don't you have any regulatory procedures to prevent things like this.... it's no better than a blog! Anybody can put anything. KKirkl08 (talk) 22:22, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
- It's definitely been fixed, probably almost immediately after the porn and hate pictures were added. The chances are the girl saw the article in the couple of minutes before an editor found out. There are procedures in place to prevent this from happening again. I am currently requesting semi-protection of the page and I apologise most sincerely on behalf of Wikipedia. Thanks, George D. Watson (Dendodge).TalkHelp and assistance 22:40, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
- Note that you can get the active version of the page by clicking "Permanent link" at the left-hand toolbox on an unvandalised version - this is the most recent "stable" version at the time of me writing this post. x42bn6 Talk Mess 22:47, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
Licensing question
I don't know if this is the right place to ask this sort of question, but it didn't seem to fit into any of the Reference Desk categories. If I was to include information from Wikipedia into a research paper/term paper, would I need to cite it? I am wondering because of the license under which it is released, the GNU Free Documentation License, because it implies that the information is free, which leads one to believe that it can be used without credit to those who contribute to it. Flaminglawyer (talk · contribs) 22:44, 19 February 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Flaminglawyer (talk • contribs)
- That isn't how we define free. We still require credit. I would however suggest not using material from a tertiary source such as wikipedia or pretty much any encyclopedia in a term paper.Genisock2 (talk) 22:54, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
- If you want to read the whole license, you'll see that it says you are free to use the content, as long as you abide by the license (as opposed to fully copyrighted material, which you can only use under explicit license from the copyright holder or in small parts under fair use doctrine). See Wikipedia:Citing Wikipedia to see how to make citations. Confusing Manifestation(Say hi!) 23:38, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
There are quite a few pages in that category that are, indeed, talk pages, which the name implies shouldn't be in there. Maybe a category should be started: "Category:Talk pages that are automatically signed" ? F-L-c 23:04, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
table help
Is it possible to make two tables float, one on right, one on left, on the same line? such as on the main page? How? F-L-c 23:22, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
- Nevermind, I got it. F-L-c 23:32, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
a section I put some info into has been declared vandalism????
I added a chunk of stuff I have about the history of the london to brighton run. It got deleted. Was I putting it in the wrong place. Also I had difficulty adding a figure in the middle of the text. What should I do. Login name sabresix. regards Geoff Cooper