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There is a misspelling of the Qin Dynasty. See quote of the text "... It is very related to Confucianists in the Qing Dynasty of China and other dynasties..." I believe this is meant for the "Qin" dynasty which was the unified empire after the Warring States. Qin (246BC to 207BC) preceded Qing(1662 to 1911) by almost 2000 years. Neo-confucianism was at its peak during the Song dynasty(960 to 1276) This should be edited because of the link to the later dyansty.

Second talk

This is a very good article!!!Neo-Confucianism was NOT the mainstream during the Song Dynasty. It was treated as heresy. It was during the Yuan Dynasty when Neo-Confucianism was taken for the Imperial examination for the first time. That made Neo-Confucianism gain strength. I think it became the mainstream during the Ming Dynasty. --Nanshu 03:17, 12 Oct 2003 (UTC)

I've modified to reflex this. --Menchi 03:55, 12 Oct 2003 (UTC)

If your "Neo-Confucianism" is merely "Dao Xue" (which was used by Zhu Xi and his fellow scholars for referring to themselves), it was treated as heresy and it was not the mainstream during the Song Dynasty. However, sometime we use "Neo-Confucianism" also to include those Zhu Xi's opponents and his predecessors (at least in some Chinese texts). In this usage, I think it was the mainstream during the Song Dynasty. Ye Shi was one of the most prominent opponent of Zhu Xi, and he advocate something like "merchantilism" and "utilitarianism" in Western thought. (Actually, I think Ye's thought is only a form of consequentialism. But in Chinese, "Gong Li Lun" stands for a paraphrase of "utilitarianism", and it can also refer to Ye's philosophy.) There were many conflicting Confucian schools of thought in Song dynasty, but we sometime use "Neo-Confucianism" refer all of them. (P.S. Sorry for my poor English......:( )220.139.235.179 (talk) 19:31, 20 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I wonder why Zhang Sanfeng appears in the list: he has been known as a martial artist but not as a Neo-Confucianist. Ktsquare (talk) 17:11, 13 Jul 2004 (UTC)

uh...

what's with the doubling up?

gelo 07:12, 17 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Remove this paragraph

In the 20th century, the May Fourth movement, Communism and other political modernizing movements tried to eradicate the cultural influence of Confucianism in China, and initially managed to repress its public expression with some degree of success, yet the recent liberalizations on the Mainland have led to some reassertion of its place in Chinese daily life. It also continues to hold a strong influence with overseas Chinese and in Taiwan. Neo-Confucianism also arguably lives on in many aspects of Chinese life, such as reverence for one's elders and the examination system.

It's unclear to be whether this revival is specifically Neo-Confucian.

Roadrunner 16:49, 17 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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 : I've modified to reflex this. --[[User:Menchi|Menchi]] 03:55, 12 Oct 2003 (UTC)
+: If your "Neo-Confucianism" is merely "Dao Xue" (which was used by Zhu Xi and his fellow scholars for referring to themselves), it was treated as heresy and it was not the mainstream during the Song Dynasty. However, sometime we use "Neo-Confucianism" also to include those Zhu Xi's opponents and his predecessors (at least in some Chinese texts). In this usage, I think it was the mainstream during the Song Dynasty. Ye Shi was one of the most prominent opponent of Zhu Xi, and he advocate something like "merchantilism" and "utilitarianism" in Western thought. (Actually, I think Ye's thought is only a form of consequentialism. But in Chinese, "Gong Li Lun" stands for a paraphrase of "utilitarianism", and it can also refer to Ye's philosophy.) There were many conflicting Confucian schools of thought in Song dynasty, but we sometime use "Neo-Confucianism" refer all of them. (P.S. Sorry for my poor English......:( )[[Special:Contributions/220.139.235.179|220.139.235.179]] ([[User talk:220.139.235.179|talk]]) 19:31, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
 I wonder why Zhang Sanfeng appears in the list: he has been known as a martial artist but not as a Neo-Confucianist. [[User:Ktsquare|Ktsquare]] [[User_talk:Ktsquare|(talk)]] 17:11, 13 Jul 2004 (UTC)