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It is best we keep our personal info a secret, so predators/stalkers won't catch us and stuff. I'm doing good in that class, so heres the thing. Make sure what Wikipedia is about, edit the encyclopedia, and make sure your acustom to the policies and traditions in Wikipedia. Good luck and happy editing! :) PrestonH 03:53, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Okay, sure, I'll keep quiet about our personal stuff. (Though in my opinion, mentioning our teacher or our school is not really personal info, as opposed to revealing your home address.) And I'm not really a newcomer because I already familiarized myself and know the traditions of Wikipedia because I already edited bunches of times from my IP address (and I wish to not tell anyone what my address is, but if you check the articles about interstates, I think you can figure it out). I talk to you differently since I talk to a Wikipedian whom I know in real life. Just like my cousin you-know-who, I edit roads. I already know the standards; how do you think I got addicted to Wikipedia? Anyways, thanks, and have fun editing, too! AL2TB Gab or Tab 05:39, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- P.S. Also, unless you have another appropriate e-mail messenger and you wish me to ask you the following question there instead, I might ask you for math homework on Wikipedia because sometimes, I forget to copy it down from class. (Besides, it's better than calling you via telephone.)
- P.S.S. How do you decorate your own siggy when you sign your posts? I wish to know how. :) AL2TB Gab or Tab 05:39, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- P.S.S.S. How do we utilize a watchlist? What's it designed for? AL2TB Gab or Tab 05:41, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- At the top of each page, there is a watch tab. Clicking that tab will add the page to your watchlist. When someone edits that page, the change will appear on your watchlist, which can be used to guard pages you're interested in against vandalism, or even just to see if others are improving an article you wrote (or adding bad information or what not.) —Scott5114↗ [EXACT CHANGE ONLY] 06:39, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Welcome!
Hello, AL2TB, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions relating to roads. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. If you are stuck, and looking for help, please come to the New contributors' help page, where experienced Wikipedians can answer any queries you have! Or, you can just type {{helpme}} on your user page, and someone will show up shortly to answer your questions.
Please become familiar with the Wikipedia and U.S. Roads standards by checking out User:Rschen7754/Manual.
Additional road article-related questions can be answered at the following links: United States, Canada, or other countries. You may also ask questions at my talk page.
Feel free to ask questions at #wikipedia-en-roads on IRC as well.
I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian and a roadfan! Please sign your name on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically produce your username and the date. Again, welcome! —Scott5114↗ [EXACT CHANGE ONLY] 06:39, 5 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
A list of answers provided above and additional tips.
- You can request protection over here.
- Remember that Wikipedia is an encyclopedia so try not to go overboard with the signatures, OK? Occasional signatures are alright, but what really counts is editing the articles and their content.
- Please be aware that they are stalkers in Wikipedia, so giving out personal info is extremely dangerous (but I'm glad you are aware of it, see here).
- The reason I locked my userpage is because it is vulnerable to vandalism and yeah.
- My e-mail is enabled, and to enable yours, go to Special:Preferences and type in your e-mail address. I will usually introduce in my e-mail address to verify that I'm PrestonH. Go to here for confirmation.
- You have to wait another few days until you can edit my page, which deters vandals away.
- You seem to have a firm grip of wikimarking, so I apperciate your knowledge about that.
PrestonH 03:21, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Actually, I think the discussion is still ongoing. Feel free to chip in! —Scott5114↗ [EXACT CHANGE ONLY] 04:56, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- It's at least temporarily stalled because of the realization that we don't have a full list of postmile equations, and thus cannot calculate accurate mileage. --NE2 17:03, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
See the discussion on WT:ELG. --NE2 07:17, 9 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Well I'm not too paranoid about it, but I request an admin via e-mail to delete the personal info. Since you are obviously not a newcomer, I will be your guidance so I can help you with bits and pieces of policies (I already mention this in real life, so this is a reinforcement). Well. good luck! PrestonH 17:09, 6 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I would accept my RfA nomination. I'm pretty sure you can do the formatting and stuff for the nominations page. However, if my RfA dosen't succeed, I'll work out on my criticism and improve from there on. PrestonH 06:29, 9 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Why did you indent two comments in the oppose section here? I dorftrottel I talk I 18:34, December 9, 2007
Because the same user cannot vote more than once. AL2TB Gab or Tab 18:39, 9 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Never mind. AL2TB Gab or Tab 18:43, 9 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- What makes me think that very very new users as nominators are not so well-suited to raise my trust in an RfA? Well, e.g. things like this. I dorftrottel I talk I 19:18, December 9, 2007
- Don't worry, I think I understand. I dorftrottel I talk I 19:26, December 9, 2007
- AL2TB: I have left a comment in response to one of your comments at Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/PrestonH. Please act immediately, thanks. Daniel 22:33, 9 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Please see Wikipedia:Redirect#Do not change links to redirects that are not broken; thank you. I am reverting your edit to SR 3 because you broke the SR 36 link. --NE2 20:15, 9 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Well, I fixed the link, so was that okay then? AL2TB Gab or Tab 02:13, 12 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- No; you shouldn't bypass redirects like that. --NE2 18:21, 12 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I'll improve as an editor like you say on my talk page, but there is a slim chance my intentions will switch toward adminship. If there is ever a case where I change my mind, then I will tell you in real life first than the others so you can nominate me. Thank you for nominating me for adminship though previously. :) PrestonH 03:23, 14 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Please do not change links that are not broken as you did in Interstate 94 in Wisconsin The edit has been rolled back. For further information please see WP:R2D Thank you, — master sonT - C 21:06, 19 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Why did you bypass the redirects on this page again? That creates unneccessary work. Please stop. — master sonT - C 03:27, 31 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
It looks like your position in keeping US 6 in California has been mostly vindicated. Are you in a position to expand on this article and write about its history? If so I say lets do it before the issue is raised again. Davemeistermoab (talk) 03:01, 20 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- I'll try during my Winter Break (starting on December 21). AL2TB Gab or Tab 23:47, 20 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Actually, I might try it later. Right now, I have other things to do. Sorry. AL2TB Gab or Tab 20:24, 24 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The GIS program I use outputs SVG. You can also make it with programs like Inkscape. --NE2 21:01, 23 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for the barnstar engraved as me. That was very kind of you ;). But the image of the barnstar you recently updated said it is "missing copyright status" over in this image. Can you provide a copyright liscense over at Commons so they won't delete the image after 7 days? Thanks! PrestonH 22:33, 23 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Took care of that. Glad you enjoyed that barnstar! :) AL2TB Gab or Tab 00:05, 24 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
What exactly is irreplaceable about Image:California bridge postmile.GIF? Anyone could make a free-use image in Inkscape in about ten minutes (in fact I'm planning on doing it after I post this)...it doesn't warrant uploading a fair use image. Avoid using fair use images as much as possible; we only use fair use images when we have no other options open, like on Johnny Olson (who died in 1982) or Family Feud (cameras aren't allowed into the studio). Good job providing the fair use criteria though! —Scott5114↗ [EXACT CHANGE ONLY] 07:02, 26 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Thanks for the note. Hmm... I got to learn more about these images. Where is the best place to start learning on proper ways to upload them? AL2TB Gab or Tab 21:21, 26 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- The appropriate policies for fair-use/non-free images is WP:FU (don't laugh...it really is! :P). You can also learn a bit by watching the image gurus in action at WP:IFD. —Scott5114↗ [EXACT CHANGE ONLY] 01:47, 27 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Okay, thanks! I'm sure to learn a lot from there. And as for the first link, I laughed anyways. :D AL2TB Gab or Tab 02:25, 27 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
There has been a fair amount of prior debate about the best title for the Chicago article; see for example this move request. The consensus at the time was that Chicago was the preferred name, and Chicago is listed at the Wikipedia:Naming conventions (settlements) guideline page as an exception to the canonical "City, State" format. Due to the prior discussion surrounding this issue, it may be preferable to file a move request and/or start a talk page discussion if you want to move it back to Chicago, Illinois, to see if consensus from the prior move request debate has changed. Regards. --Muchness (talk) 04:40, 28 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The reason these were used is that it wasn't clear that they reset at county lines. But this is now abundantly clear, with the note at the top and the ranges listed in the county column. Why did you remove the county routes? You should also see Wikipedia:Redirect#Do not change links to redirects that are not broken. --NE2 01:27, 29 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- What county routes did I remove? (I do not recall.) AL2TB Gab or Tab 01:29, 29 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- It appears that you removed all of them. --NE2 01:30, 29 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Oh, sorry. It must have occurred in the process of editing and facing an edit conflict. AL2TB Gab or Tab 01:51, 29 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I must say your account is off at a great start, and you most of the wikimarkups and quite a few policies (course you've first read Wikipedia since 2004 which shouldn't come out too much of a surprise). Here is an important tip you might need (in case you didn't know). Make sure your account is secured to prevent it from being exploited. Here are the following links for further instructions...
If you believe you don't have a strong password, try to change it ASAP. On with the rollback instructions...
Here are the list of ways you can get the rollback tools...
To get the rollback tools for the Lupin anti-vandal tool on the first, follow the instructions given when you click on the link. It will mostly be involved on your monobook script and installing it. Similar instructions can be find in the "popups". The rollback only works if you are at the "history" of the article. The VandalProof requires manual downloading though (click link for further instructions). I'm pretty sure you know what a "rollback" works and how it functions, so you can choose which one (or more) that is mostly comfortable. PrestonH 03:19, 29 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Can you change your font to a more readable version - I've had trouble trying to read it. Thanks. — master sonT - C 23:53, 29 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Um, no. Sorry. Unless everyone else has trouble reading it (and it appears that they can all read it just fine), I'm keeping this font. However, you can click the "edit" link and read from the text box for a more legible font. Otherwise, chances are you may need to work with your computer (probably the monitor's contrast and brightness in particular) or call a technician to fix your settings. AL2TB Gab or Tab 00:06, 30 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- I can't read your talk page either. --Son (talk) 07:09, 30 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Follow the advice I mentioned above, or maybe check your eyesight. AL2TB Gab or Tab 18:57, 30 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
To anyone who has made a post in this section: Are there reasons why you guys (or gals) need to read my talk page if you have not made any other comments or questions at all? AL2TB Gab or Tab 18:58, 30 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Yes...I saw you posted on an old RfC...I was going to tell you to revert. But I saw PrestonH mentioned that already. Then I saw this thread, so I tossed my two cents in. The problem with the font is not a problem with my eye sight. --Son (talk) 19:14, 30 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- AL2TB - You're doing it again. There are a LOT of us here that have problems reading this font, including myself. There's NOTHING wrong with our eyesight, as a matter of fact, I have 20/20 plus, scored Expert the last time I went to a firing range. To read what you post here, I find that copy-pasting to an MS Word document is necessary, so that I don't miss anything. Edit Centric (talk) 22:03, 30 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Just a little question: If you said you have a 20/20 vision, how is it that you are having problems reading that font? ^_^ AL2TB ^_^ 01:31, 14 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- What I said was possible reasons that people couldn't read the font. I tested Safari, Firefox, Netscape, and Internet Explorer browsers. AL2TB Gab or Tab 01:24, 31 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- I would say that, in the interests of easier communications, you would best serve other editors by removing the font. Leave it on your user page by all means. violet/riga (t) 22:40, 30 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Fine, I'll get to get sometime later. AL2TB Gab or Tab 01:24, 31 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Hi there. I saw a post about this at WP:ANI, and I thought I might be able to shed a little light on why your font looks so strange to some others, but not to you. If you use a non-standard font, different web browsers on different operaing systems will display the font differently, and some of those different modes of display may be unreadable. For example, I have looked at this page with Opera, Firefox, Konqueror, and Epiphany, and each displays a completely different font. That indicates to me that each browser is having to guess at a closest match to what it thinks you're using. This doesn't end up being a problem for me, because the fonts my browsers chose were all more or less readable, but others might not be so lucky. Is this the font you're trying to use? It's nonstandard enough that I can't see it at all. All I see are sans-serif block letters. --Dynaflow babble 22:47, 30 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- That is indeed the intended font, and it looks painfull. (It comes with MS Office.) Another problem is that the font's size is set static at 10pt. I took the liberty to change it so that at least people unable to read the page can enlarge the font. But it still is a very hard to read font. What is wrong with the standard font anyway? — Edokter • Talk • 22:50, 30 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- I think there is something wrong with the standard font. Almost every page uses it. For once, it's much better to have a page that sticks out different from the rest. AL2TB Gab or Tab 01:34, 31 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Ah, the MS connection helps explain why I'm not seeing it at all in Linux. Mac users are going to see fonts other than intended too, unless they've shelled out for Office. Come to think of it, Windows users who haven't shelled out for whatever version of Office the font came with might not be able to see it either. --Dynaflow babble 23:04, 30 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Of course it is. Thank you, I appreciate it. All I've been doing was following guidelines from the WP:ELG. Plus, I've tried to follow a similar approach of NE2's way of exit lists in other articles lately, only to get slapped in the face with "redundant" and "unneccessary". I guess we all have to come to some sort of compromise, like sticking with the county abbreviations in the mileposts. PhATxPnOY916 (talk) 02:25, 30 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The legal definition is linked from the infobox. You may not be aware of the "pipe trick", where you can type [[SR 4 (CA)|]] and get SR 4. The county abbreviations are useless, given the county names to the left. --NE2 21:38, 30 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- However, linking to legal definitions from an infobox does not help because now no one can determine whether it is a scenic highway or not. AL2TB Gab or Tab 21:58, 30 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I eventually would if you'd let me. --NE2 21:40, 30 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- What does that matter? I wouldn't do it all at once but as part of expanding the articles. --NE2 21:49, 30 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- I honestly cannot understand what you mean by your last comment. What would confuse the reader? --NE2 22:04, 30 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Have you realize that NE2's 2nd RfC has been archived three months ago? You might want to remove the comments you made recently as that RfC is not active right now. PrestonH 07:09, 30 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Took care of it. AL2TB Gab or Tab 18:55, 30 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
You do know that if you add the "wikibreak enforcer" into your Monobook JS, you can't log into your account (which in turn you can't make any edits from this acount) until that thing expires. If you want to take a wikibreak that long, I'm fine with it. If you change your mind and want to go back, I'll give you instructions on how to bypass the wikibreak enforcer by talking to my alk page. PrestonH 06:07, 31 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Notification
(This is from witness PrestonH and yes I do realize I'm telling the exact same story as Aristol2345)
I know you are not a sockpuppet, but your close relationship with another editor is highly compelling in the eyes of the other editors (these things happen, even for me). I'm sure somebody will clear your name as this happens to me a year ago. I'll tell you the story what happen to me a year ago...
Last year, I was accused of multi-sockpuppety because I told my friends to use Wikipedia as a social network site. I was accused of sockpuppetry on this thread. Realize that Wikipedia has a weakness of treating newcomers and "new accounts" alike. Look at me now, I came from an absolute low-life editor, to a respected anti-vandal editor.
Listen carefully dude. I am faitly certain that somebody will clear your name. But I have some advice for you...
- Try not to deep into disputes. There is in Arbiraton Case going on and as you know, the editors are pretty tense about this.
- Listen to suggestions by other editors. It will save you a lot in the long run. It is okay to disagree, but continiously arguing dor the same reasons is not going to help.
Try not to quit at this stage while your account is new (experience otherwise), your disputes and history are parallel to my past in Wikipedia. Listen to my suggestions and I gurantee you will respected by all your fellow editors. I don't recommend quitting, but if you do, I will let you go (though it will be a pain). PrestonH 06:07, 1 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- I'm replying through this message since I'm bypassing my wikibreak enforcer at the moment. Actually, the sockpuppetry case is not my main concern (though I'll worry about that as soon as the following message I'm about to say is resolved). What I'm really hoping for is the deletion of Artisol2345's userpage. Although we have very similar interests (hobbies towards roads, blabbing about random stuff, etc.), some of the info he wrote was mine, since he was trying to pose as me. So I finally took action and used the {{subst:prod}} template, and hope all goes as I intended it to be. Then, if possible, SALT the userpage, or make it so it's unrestorable by administrators. Then, take care of our sockpuppetry case.
- Basically, my contributions on Wikipedia really shows that I have been pretty much following exactly what my cousin used to do (only I was better than him at using the {{jct}} template). That should explain why both our contributions raised suspicion of Edit Centric. Also, despite what I say on my wikibreak message on my userpage, I might come back sooner, but I won't be editing too often. After all Preston, in real life, our high school 1st semester is almost over, and you and I will be taking that math final at the end of January, which is a large portion of our final math grades at the end of the semester. Which is why I will be editing on Wikipedia much less from today in hopes to focus on the last month of our 1st semester.
- Thanks for the support, Preston. I don't mind the quote that you posted from my e-mail I sent you. Anyways, happy new year for 2008! Back to my wikibreak. :) AL2TB Gab or Tab 07:31, 1 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Showing the SR 73 junction as postmile 4 is not false precision; saying 4 means it's roughly between 3.5 and 4.5, which can be easily measured on any number of maps. --NE2 04:44, 2 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Just so you know, in USRD, the upper half of assessment classes all require a review process before they're assigned. Potential A-Class articles should be brought to WP:USRD/A/ACR. (Non-road projects may not require a review for A-Class, so when working on non-USRD articles, check with the project before assessing.) Thanks for contributing to USRD's assessment processes! —Scott5114↗ [EXACT CHANGE ONLY] 08:32, 2 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Please discuss why you think we need the abbreviations at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject California State Highways#Section break. --NE2 22:28, 3 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
(Yes, I'm talking about your cousin. But I have some additional tips that I strongly urge you to follow.)
AL2TB, I supported checkuser because I want to get this over with. I know you are not a sockpuppet of Aristol2345, and I just want a check to prove your innocence and clarify this whole misunderstanding. But there are still strong suspicions about those connections between you and your cousin (same intrests, mannerisms etc.) I talk to Rschen7754 on IRC the other day and he says the only way to prove that you are innocent is that you have to prove to yourself (and maybe others) that you are willing to work with others and listen to suggestions.
I don't want you to get into trouble than you are now, and I suggest you follow these tips that I'm going to show you...
- Listen to others for suggestions/criticism. If User X tells you that the edit you made was going against concensus, than revert your edits. If you disagree, than talk it out in the talk page. If user Y tells you that you are doing something wrong, listen and learn from your mistakes. Just try not to edit war.
- Read the guidelines for the the wikiproject your involved with. If you violate the guidelines long enough, you could end up blocked. If you disagree with those guidelines, talk it out.
- Try to read the manual of style guidelines if you haven't done so already.
I don't want you to be falsely labeled as a sockpuppet or get into a big fight that should not have happened. Even if you are a reincarnation of Arisol2345 (which I doubt) than you can learn from your mistakes. I'm here for you buddy and I don't want you to get into trouble. Best of luck. PrestonH 02:56, 5 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
P.S. I will not talk about your cousin after this message so can we carry on with this encyclopedia? PrestonH 03:04, 5 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Okay, thanks. Okay, I'll try to edit in a more civil manner. If I'm not, maybe I would try to edit a different topic that I like. ^_^ AL2TB ^_^ 03:26, 5 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
You aren't allowed to re-add a PROD tag if it is removed, as you did here. Also, it doesn't help your case. Please stop with the disruption. Thanks, Rjd0060 (talk) 05:01, 5 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- The prod tag wasn't supposed to help my case. I added it in BEFORE Edit Centric accused me as a sockpuppet. ^_^ AL2TB ^_^ 06:37, 5 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Why would you want another users' page deleted anyways? - Rjd0060 (talk) 17:02, 5 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Because I know this user in real life. He posed as me, and displayed the high school that I go to (not Artisol2345), claimed my website was his (I removed the link to it recently), etc. etc. Anyways, he posted some of my personal info of me in real life. And I seeked RfO and sent an e-mail, but they replied to me that the PROD tag was good enough. I still wish the page to be deleted since it's removed. ^_^ AL2TB ^_^ 18:15, 5 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- I've sent you an email. - Rjd0060 (talk) 18:20, 5 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I would like to inform that you are block for one week because of accused sockpuppetry/meatpuppetry in case you didn't get the message above. If you get unblocked soon here are two things you should do at this point...
- Try to stop editing road related articles for a while. There is an ArbCom case going on (editors tend to be very tensed at this case) and overshadowing your cousin's footsteps (or more or less likely yourself) won't help your case.
- This is not recommended at all but if you are desperate, start over with a new account and don't reveal anything at all. Which means no relations with me, no policy violations, no overshadowing etc.
If you wish to get unblocked, use the generic {{unblock|your reason here}} template along with a reason. I'm so sorry you got blocked, and I hope things turn out for the best. PrestonH 05:04, 12 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
P.S. If you haven't figure it out already, you can still edit this talk page. PrestonH 05:04, 12 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Wow, really? I can edit the talk page? (Well, by now, I found out as I made this edit :D ). Yeah, I realized I was blocked for a week shortly before you told me about it... but it's not like I had a say in my case. Have you ever recalled this quote: "Life isn't fair. Get used to it."? Well, I'm experiencing one at this moment. I mean, to satisfy one's hobby and help out Wikipedia, only to get blocked just because I picked up some remnants of my cousin's editing style. One thing's for sure... I recently created a new account (as you told me in real life) for a clean start. But then again, I got autoblocked. :(
- Well, you were right-- this "overshadowing" thing was never a good idea from the start. I'm not really going to request for an unblock, but I'll wait one week until my block expires. Once it does, I'll start contributing again with this account. If I got blocked again after one week, I have one thing to say: "Some people on Wikipedia really have problems," my cousin said. Anyways, have fun editing! I'll just be waiting until I can edit again. ^_^ AL2TB ^_^ 05:17, 12 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
No, I didn't register my wiki-account as "PrestonH" in the Simple English Wikipedia. This could be an impersonator or a good-faith account who dosen't know who I am, but I'm pretty sure that is not my account. PrestonH 21:24, 19 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- If you didn't register that account, then it's probably the impersonator. *sigh*... ^_^ AL2TB ^_^ 04:05, 20 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
After much thought and deliberation I have decided to return. Many wikians contacted me by various means and I truly appreciate the support from all of them. Man, did I need that wiki break! I have learned from it and will use the experience to improve. — Rlevse • Talk • 19:16, 21 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
You got mail! PrestonH 07:24, 21 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
User:NE2 might have reason for combining San Diego Freeway with I-405. He knows more stuff then we do because he is an admin and understand the WP:USSH and WP:IH very well. Wait until he answers he might be right. --Freewayguy (Meet) 21:15, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
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- NE2 is not an admin. —Scott5114↗ [EXACT CHANGE ONLY] 21:54, 21 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- I still disagree with the merge, but if need calls for it, then he should initiate the merge. But how is he going to merge the information from San Diego Freeway into two articles? (Also, just to let you know, admins don't always know more about Wikipedia than regular editors. Some admins can at times be doo-doo-heads.) ^_^ AL2TB ^_^ 22:18, 21 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Please note that per a temporary injunction in the US Roads Arbitration case, disputed roads are not to be added to or removed from the Wikiproject until the case closes with a final decision. I have reverted your edit; please do not reinstate it or make similar changes at other articles until the Arbitration case closes and the injunction is lifted. Thank you. Thatcher 13:43, 27 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for your help on getting Interstate 355 to FA status! —Rob (talk) 13:52, 28 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The problem is that we don't have a full list of postmile equations, so we can't give precise statewide mileage. --NE2 08:36, 30 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
You are currently in dispute with NE2, and I can see that almost clearly. People are likely going to accuse of edit-warring because of the repeated reverts between you and him (which could lead to a block or ban), so I highly recommend talking it out in the talk page. PrestonH 03:22, 31 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Which junction are my edits removing? I'm not seeing any. --NE2 03:23, 31 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Who are you talking to, me or AL2TB? PrestonH 03:27, 31 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- AL2TB, who claimed I was removing a junction in his edit summary. --NE2 03:30, 31 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Ugh... check the revision again. You removed a junction from the exit list. Nah, I give up. NE2 is the stubborn one. *sigh* ^_^ AL2TB ^_^ 03:36, 31 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Which junction did I remove? I checked multiple times. --NE2 03:39, 31 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Click on this linkie here. You removed "Bradshaw Road" at exit 13. ^_^ AL2TB ^_^ 03:41, 31 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Look down a bit; I simply removed the double-height rows that showed that it was partially in unincorporated territory. --NE2 03:46, 31 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Oops, didn't see that. (Sorry!) Look, if you want, you can revert back to your revision. I won't touch that article in a while from this point on. ^_^ AL2TB ^_^ 03:48, 31 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Heh - this is a bit awkward. I've reported you for 3RR, and if I revert, I'm breaking 3RR too. If you revert yourself, I believe that would "get you out of jail free". There's still a bigger problem though - we still have this dispute, and it's not only the two of us. I have started a discussion at WT:ELG. --NE2 04:01, 31 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Well, thanks for the tip, for allowing me to revert that myself (though it pains me and others, though). :P Since I was involved in this dispute between you and me, I won't make any comments at your topic with WT:ELG; instead I'm sure we can all come to a peaceful solution.
- And, exactly... how is this pandemonium awkward? ^_^ AL2TB ^_^ 04:09, 31 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Man, you've got guts. You failed geography, but you've got guts =-) I wouldn't say that in the middle of a Carson City council meeting, you might get your butt kicked. =-). Don't worry. I'm working on a re-do of that section. I'll fix that error, complete with an exit list for the 2 other counties served by US 395 in Nevada =-)
P.S. On a more serious note. Don't get into an edit war. It's not worth it. An article can be "less than perfect" for a week or two while passions die down. Don't forget people tend to work on an article and move on. (Hint Hint)
Davemeistermoab (talk) 06:43, 31 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Oh, I only checked one map source for like, two seconds. :/ I know, I'll do better next time. As for that edit war, I'll just revert his revision by next week or month if I can, and see if NE2 doesn't catch it, unless it's proven to me that NE2's method is better. ^_^ AL2TB ^_^ 15:07, 31 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- It's not worth being perceived as a stubborn jerk either. Wait a while, make a mockup of both styles on your user page, ask some other editors for their opinion, and if most don't agree with you - leave it and move on. That's my suggestion. Yeah I know, I should be working on an exit listDavemeistermoab (talk) 15:50, 31 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry I'm a little late, but I was examining the article you presented on my talk page and its history, and I failed to see the problem in the article. It is most likely fixed in my view but if you still see a problem, please give me a detailed situation so I can look at it more closely. My best bet into helping your future link problems with those refs is going to this page about WikiMarkup stuff. If your still stuck, you can always ask another person who is an expert at wikimarkup at their talk pages (the ones who are likely experts are bot programmers or JavaScript modifiers). I hope this helps AL2TB. PrestonH 03:39, 1 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
P.S. I'm not an expert at ref tags as I don't use them very much. Sorry. :P PrestonH 03:39, 1 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Right now, most of the maps of routes in the LA area have the same bounds. That means you can open multiple maps and switch between them. Cropping each one separately eliminates this advantage. --NE2 01:57, 2 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Most of them do use the bounds that I-280 uses, but I figured I-780 was a bit short to use Image:California Interstate 780.svg, and I-380 is definitely too short for Image:California Interstate 380.svg. --NE2 02:02, 2 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Several things:
- There's no reason to move down the California style shield; half the route is signed that way.
- You're reintroducing the error in the introduction; it's not part of the scenic highway system, just eligible for it.
- Wikipedia talk:WikiProject U.S. Roads#State law sections
- You don't need separate sections for single paragraphs, and the last paragraph is about California.
- Again, for the junction list, there are nowhere near enough junctions to split it.
Please do not impose your style on articles; it's pretty horrible. --NE2 02:11, 2 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Those are not "my" styles; I followed the styles that everyone is currently using throughout roads in the US. ^_^ AL2TB ^_^ 02:34, 2 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
hey
Hey i'm one of prestons friends and students!!!!! Just saying hi!!
CaptainIron555 05:01, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
Yes
Yes I do meet him in real life. It's nice to know I'm not the only student out there....=) anyway, I Love your webpage!! It Rocks! How do you do that?
CaptainIron555 05:08, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
P.S. See you later!
You probably shouldn't do large-scale moves like that; it's apparently what caused the first U.S. roads ArbCom case (which was much messier than the present one). --NE2 11:57, 2 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Well I did what I thought might work out best, but if they don't like it (and so far no one cares about this, as there has been no WikiProject for Japanese roads), they can always revert (if they do, it will take them quite a long time, however). ^_^ AL2TB ^_^ 17:26, 2 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- You probably should have asked at Wikipedia:WikiProject Japan or Wikipedia:WikiProject Highways. --NE2 17:51, 2 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Yes, I should do that because nothing works better than seeing someone move Wikipedia:WikiProject U.S. Roads to Wikipedia:WikiProject North American Roads. *end sarcasm*
- So far, there has been no WikiProject for highways in Japan, so therefore, I see no set guidelines specifically targeted for Japanese roads. ^_^ AL2TB ^_^ 17:55, 2 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- I'll see if anyone complains. But if someone does, I told you so! --NE2 18:03, 2 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- sigh* ^_^ AL2TB ^_^ 18:05, 2 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Userpage help?
Hi AL2TB! I have a question I've wanted to ask. Could you show me on how to make a great userpage?
It would be very helpful if you did.
CaptainIron555 19:59, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
Um...
Thanks for helping! Anyway, I was thinking a green background and anime pictures.
If you don't want to, it's totally okay =)...
Theme (images): Bleach and One piece
Background color: Green
Thanks so much for your help!
CaptainIron555 23:43, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
P.S. Preston says hi!!
I apologize, I should have looked closer at the deletion tags that were on your sandbox. Apparently, something else was up for deletion that was in your sandbox, which brought the deletion tags to it. Anyway, I've restored your sandbox, and commented out the offending spots. Jauerbackdude?/dude. 19:07, 3 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- I used db-author on one of the templates that I noticed it's no longer of any use. That particular template with the db might have popped up on my page as it contained the template I requested for deletion. But anyways, thanks for restoring my page and for your understanding. ^_^ AL2TB ^_^ 23:54, 3 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you so much!
Thank you!!! I Love it! =D It's okay if it's blue or not, so.... Don't worry about it!
CaptainIron555 04:22, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
Hi there. Please take a look at my response at WT:ELG. Thanks. PhATxPnOY916 (talk to me) 05:05, 4 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
That actually sounds better. We can leave it at that. --PhATxPnOY916 (talk to me) 10:56, 7 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
You have to convert text to paths. However, I don't think you can upload that image to Commons; it's copyrighted by the E-470 authority. --NE2 05:59, 10 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Oh, I thought the image was deleted because it lacked a fair use rationale. I'll request for deletion then. ^_^ AL2TB ^_^ 06:00, 10 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, it can be uploaded here. I don't remember exactly how to convert to paths, but it's in one of the menus. But if the old GIF is more accurate than the new SVG, that one will be used. --NE2 01:06, 11 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The SVG looks pretty good; I've tagged the GIF for deletion. If you think you can improve it more, there are two photos at the bottom of [1]. --NE2 05:27, 11 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Not perfect (the left line on the E should be parallel to the left side of the parallelogram), but definitely good enough. --NE2 04:29, 15 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Please read WP:USSH#Linking; thank you. --NE2 03:18, 11 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Hi AL2TB, I like roads too. 68.59.172.250 (talk) 03:17, 12 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Sry -- forgot to log in. Also, I am interested in Japanese roads. CJ Miller. [That's my name.Don't wear it out.] 03:36 UTC, 12 February 2008
I suggest that you use the Wikipedia-standard font instead of "Curlz MT", as "Curlz MT" is very illegible, even at a large size (and larger sizes are more annoying). CJ Miller. (That's my name.Don't wear it out.) 20:41, 13 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Well I like to keep my user page the way it is. I even kept my talk page at the Courier New font to help cease all the complaints about the Curlz MT. ^_^ AL2TB ^_^ 00:31, 14 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I moved the title back to the Interstate 210 (California). The SR 210 is only temporairly alignment, and soon it will be I-210. I forgot to write this on move summary this is why I wrote on your talk page.--Freewayguy (Meet) 23:28, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
[reply] Way ahead of you: Image:California Interstate and State Route 210.svg --NE2 23:37, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
[reply]
Here is the format for the web template...
<ref>{{cite web|url= <insert URL here> |title= <title of the article you retrieved (i.e IGN's review, Freeway I-5 News etc.)> |accessdate= <date which you got that article/information (should be formatted this way YYYY-MM-DD)>}}</ref>
Hopefully you got all that. If you got any question, talk to me on my talk page. :DD PrestonH 18:01, 17 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Thank you! ^_^ AL2TB ^_^ 22:37, 17 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I figured an abbreviation should work fine, like in California the infobox says Caltrans. --NE2 03:43, 20 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- I personally see no benefit in doing so; unless you want to reduce the article by a couple bytes. ^_^ AL2TB ^_^ 03:44, 20 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
See Wikipedia talk:WikiProject California State Highways#Should we use the exact definition of freeway that Caltrans uses? --NE2 04:01, 20 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Already did that before you sent me the message... was on my watchlist. But thanks for the notice anyway. ^_^ AL2TB ^_^ 04:04, 20 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
[2] --NE2 11:04, 20 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I read up on the discussion. The photos at WestCoastRoads - US 395 do back it up, but it's not enough for NE2. It seems like almost everything I contribute on here is garbage to him. There's no use talking to him. He wants it "his way". Plus, he doesn't listen to whatever I say. I have a better chance talking to a brick wall.
But, if I were to say something on there, I would've said this:
"I think we should keep the 'north end of freeway' and 'south end of freeway' lines on there. The photos on WestCoastRoads - US 395 prove it. For goodness sakes, it's the only section of US 395 in California that is freeway. Any other interchanges on US 395 in California are on expressway alignments."
I hope you guys can come to a solution, because I don't think NE2 takes me seriously. --PhATxPnOY916 (talk TO me) 14:27, 20 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Thanks for your opinion. I know, NE2 does not really take anyone seriously; he only allows it if any revisions meet the criteria for his standards and his standards only. ^_^ AL2TB ^_^ 00:23, 21 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Ok? PrestonH 02:53, 22 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I have been thinking about rewriting it, but I'm worried that since you're working on it half the time will be spent edit warring rather than working. --NE2 03:49, 23 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Well I wouldn't mind if you would rewrite the history, because I know the info I wrote is vague, and I know you can fix all that. ^_^ AL2TB ^_^ 03:54, 23 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- That's not all that's bad - the whole article needs pretty much a total rewrite. --NE2 04:13, 23 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- I already know you said that for the whole article. I was implying that I might do an edit war if you rewrite the route description, unless you are able to rewrite the route description longer than mine while maintaining concise details. ^_^ AL2TB ^_^ 04:16, 23 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Then the tag may have to stay. --NE2 04:19, 23 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Should that be the case, let it stay then. ^_^ AL2TB ^_^ 04:21, 23 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Ctrl+Shift+D —Scott5114↗ [EXACT CHANGE ONLY] 03:10, 28 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- I was successfully able to upload a larger size of [[Image:E-470.svg]], because of your help. Thank you! ^_^ AL2TB ^_^ 03:20, 28 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
AL2TB,
I am VERY busy right now with 2 articles in the GA review process, 1 in A class review. And promised reviews for 2 other people. However if you want to do a little more work on this page, you could get it to B class easy. The major thing that is missing is the milepost. UDOT has complete milage logs for every route under its control, to 3 decimal places available here:
http://www.dot.utah.gov/main/f?p=100:pg:5546707862863886654:::1:T,V:814,
Also complete route histories for most routes under UDOT's control are here:
http://www.dot.utah.gov/main/f?p=100:pg:5546707862863886654:::1:T,V:1348,
There's a B class article right there....
Davemeistermoab (talk) 05:13, 29 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Sorry, I'm very busy in real life. I have stuff to do before I have time to expand or fix the articles. I have a lot of AP European History homework to do over this weekend, so therefore, I will make minor edits along the way. Maybe I'll work on the article if I have time. But thanks for the links by the way; I'll get to it if I can. ^_^ AL2TB ^_^ 02:12, 1 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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