User talk:Enigmaman/Archives/Old

Queens College, City University of New York

I somehow missed your last note on my talk page, Enigmaman, so I just removed the warning here now. Good to see you again, I'm glad that the questionable editing at Queens College, City University of New York has died down. I'll keep the page on my watchlist, let me know if you need any help. Cheers, Iamunknown 13:56, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

Enigmaman, why did you delete "Queens College" redirects here. For other uses, see Queen's College (Disambiguation). from Queens College, City University of New York? I have added that line twice and it has been removed twice, and I'd like some sort of reasoning behind the removal. I think that it is necessary because "Queens College" can mean so many things but it redirects there without referencing all the other meanings. The disambiguation page referred to here doesn't just talk about colleges spelled "Queen's" but also those spelled "Queens." Awbeal (talk) 13:41, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

You say "There is no other major institution called Queens College." Who decides what is a major institution? And I think the existence of the Queen's College Disambiguation page proves that there are other well-known institutions of a similar name. Awbeal (talk) 19:41, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

There are places called Queen's College, yes. There's a difference between Queen's College and Queens College, and that is why it is unnecessary.

But the first line of the disambiguation page clearly says "Queen's College, Queens' College or Queens College is the name of more than one institution." Awbeal (talk) 01:53, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

Whoever put together the disambiguation page apparently decided to group everything together for some reason, but there is only one Queens College, and I think it's easily distinguished from Queen's. Enigmaman (talk) 04:01, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

Reporting vandals

Try the administrators' noticeboard; to report the users, use the template {{vandal|username}} (replace "username" with an actual name or IP of the vandal). Regards, Mike Rosoft 21:17, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

• In general, we don't block for the first act of vandalism (unless the edit makes it obvious that we are dealing with a vandalism-only account). In the cases you have reported, a message on the user's talk page would have been enough; see this page for useful templates. Regards, Mike Rosoft 21:21, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
• You mean the IP address, 149.4.115.5 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log)? It's a school IP, shared by many people, so there's little point in blocking it today for something that has been done yesterday by somebody else than who is sitting at the computer right now. (If abuse continues, anonymous editing from the address may be blocked for a longer time, even for several months, and a complaint to the staff may also be made.) - Mike Rosoft 22:54, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Ping

Hey, Enigmaman! Sorry for the late reply. I've responded on my talk page.  :) Cheers, Iamunknown 05:28, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

Just noticed your other message

Enigmaman, I'm really sorry I've been so late in responding. With regards to your other message on my talk page (I somehow missed it...), you can report IP addresses and usernames at Wikipedia:Administrator intervention against vandalism (WP:AIV for short). That page can be kind of confusing, but just click the bottom-most "[edit]" button, and type your report like

*{{Anonlinks|127.0.0.1}} - Repeated vandalism on [[Lorem ipsum]] after final warning --~~~~

for IP address, or

*{{Userlinks|Example}} - Repeated vandalism on [[Lorem ipsum]] after final warning --~~~~

for usernames. Hope this helps.  :-) Feel free to ask other questions. I'll try to offer a more prompt response this time.  :-) Cheers, Iamunknown 05:36, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

ProFootBallTalk.Com

See Talk:Profootballtalk.com for why I think "the site was released" is more appropriate than "the site was created." Kurt Weber (Go Colts!) 17:09, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

AIV removal

Hi Enigmaman. It appears that the first IP you reported was removed because it had already been blocked, and the next IP address that you reported was later removed due to the article being vandalised being semi-protected. Hopefully this makes things a bit clearer. Thanks, Spebi 04:34, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

AIV report

So not to clog up Spebi's talk page, lol, I'll just reply here, Ember of Light removed the second report, and a bot removed the first IP once it was blocked by another administrator, but no biggie! And if you'd like to read up on the intricacies of Recent Changes patrol, and how to report (for instance, the last IP had not received a proper set of warnings in succession, and no final warning was given explaining the problems), so it may be helpful for you, if you are planning on getting into vandalism fighting. Anyway if you wish to review these issues, policies and see some examples of templates you can use, take a look at the essay I've written, here. And if you ever have any questions, feel free to ask, I'm happy to help! Cheers! Ariel♥Gold 05:00, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

The "December 2007" section up a ways

Hey, Enigmaman. Long-time no-see.  :) I occassionally check out WP:ANI, so I saw Wikipedia:ANI#Incivility on talk page. I'm not sure I agree that your edit is uncivil, and I appreciate your humor, but I think it would be fair to him if you somehow noted that the current message is not the one he left. (I imagine just adding a diff to his original message would be fine.) That said, feel free to use my advice at your discretion.

I hope you have been well! I'm out for a while, so if you leave a message, I'll probably respond later this weekend (barring one of my disappearances, which seems to happen lately). Later, --Iamunknown 08:27, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

Happy Holidays! :)

Enigmaman, I hope that you have happy holidays, whichever holidays you celebrate.  :) Cheers, --Iamunknown 23:59, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

Thanks! You too. Enigmaman (talk) 00:23, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

Bobby Petrino

Hi Enigmaman. There was nothing wrong with the information that I included on the Bobby Petrino page:

"The decision and the manner in which it was executed was highly controversial, with Petrino assuring that he wasn't planning on leaving, right up to the day before accepting the position with Arkansas. Angry Falcons players became aware of the decision through a four-sentence letter from Petrino which the coaching staff posted in the locker room. The same day, Petrino flew to a pep rally for the Arkansas Razorbacks to publicly announce his decision, further enraging his former Atlanta players and coaching staff."

The descision and manner that it occurred WAS very controversial, and was discussed at length in all forms of media for a month after the decision. The Falcons players WERE angry (even enraged), he DID leave a 4 sentence letter as a goodbye, and the flight to attend the Razorbacks pep rally immediately after quitting DID happen. I also included a source which included the letter to the Falcons players and how the players felt about the decision.

There's nothing POV about what I wrote. However your eliminating the information, even though factually sound and lacking weasel words, may show a bias on your part. Call it POV by eimination if you will.

I will re-edit the page to include the information. My personal feelings about Petrino is that he's a great coach who made a mistake in the way he handled the situation. That's all. I'm neither a Falcons fan nor wish any ill-will for Petrino. Viewers of the page will understand this from what is written on the page, while at the same time becoming aware of the situation regarding his departure from the Atlanta Falcons. Readers have a right to know, and then they can make their own decision. I apologize for not discussing it on the Talk page prior to the edit, but honestly I saw (and see) nothing controversial with what I wrote. It's factually sound. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kinneytj (talk • contribs) 05:53, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

Actually, it is controversial and of questionable relevance to the section. POV by eimination? Don't know what you mean. But I'm as unbiased as it gets when it comes to Bobby Petrino. Enigmaman (talk) 05:59, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

Glad you are unbiased regarding Petrino. I am as well. However, it was the situation which was controversial, and not my comments. And they fit the section regarding his career in the NFL. By POV by elimination, I mean eliminating particular information in order to present a different biographical view of a person. In other words censoring. Anyways, like I said, I think he's a great coach who just made a mistake. That's why I had no qualms about the other comments such as saying "Petrino is considered by many to be one of the most innovative offensive minds in the college game today." Personally, I think that takes it a bit too far, but who am I to judge, and the editor documented accurately and verifiably. But as a biographical page, people have a right to know everything, including the less savory elements. He'll do well at Arkansas, I'm sure. He's a great coach. Take care!Kinneytj (talk) 07:04, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

dana jacobson page

Enigmaman, I would have sent e-mail but you have that turned off. Anyway, I posted a controversy section for this page because someone had just deleted it. I went back to edit it again because another party was writing things that weren't factual (namely that there were no anti-Notre Dame comments made by DJ). I supported all I wrote. I'm not trying to make trouble but just maintain the integrity of the page. Thanks. p.s. - Oops, I forgot to mention that clicking the link you directed me to (for discussion of the DJ page) just gave me an error. Beorach (talk) 19:48, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

Adoption offer

Hello, Enigmaman! I wanted to let you I'll adopt you. Let me know what you decide by leaving a note on my talk page. Have a nice day! :-) Burner0718 ^{(Jibba Jabba!)} 01:54, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

I just became an adopter and I've seen some of your work, good job. If you ever need anything, let me know! :-) Burner0718 ^{(Jibba Jabba!)} 02:01, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

Umm, what aspects do you need help with? Burner0718 ^{(Jibba Jabba!)} 02:57, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

Most of my work is fighting vandalism, so a lot of what I need is how to properly fight vandals. I usually just revert the vandalism and find a standard "welcome to wikipedia" message (if it's their first instance of vandalism), or a warning message (if they have a history). I'm not really sure how adoption works. Is it that when I need help, I ask you questions? I don't have enough experience or knowledge in a lot of areas, but it usually isn't that relevant towards my edits. I'm glad you approve of my edits. That's one thing I was concerned about. I don't know how I'm doing because there aren't people looking over my shoulder and grading my work. Thanks, Enigmaman (talk) 03:13, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

You are doing the right thing with the vandalism. Adoption is just basically where I mentor you and help you become a more experienced editor. I'm available off and on almost every day so if you need help, just let me know and I'll answer your question ASAP. :-) Burner0718 ^{(Jibba Jabba!)} 19:04, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

Sounds great. I'll do that. Thanks for your help! Enigmaman (talk) 19:18, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

No problem! :-) Burner0718 ^{(Jibba Jabba!)} 19:30, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

NFL wikiproject

You ought to have the NFL wikiproject userbox on your page :-) RC-0722 ^communicator/_kills 19:53, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

If you want Burner or I can help you with that. RC-0722 ^communicator/_kills 01:31, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

There you go, the userbox is on your userpage! Anything else? :) Burner0718 ^{(Jibba Jabba!)} 01:46, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

Nah, nothing else. One of these days I'm going to look at other people's userpages and try to put together a good one. Enigmaman (talk) 01:55, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

Let me know when you do that, I'll be glad to help! :) Burner0718 ^{(Jibba Jabba!)} 02:03, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

IAR

You're right, it's a bear of a question :) I wouldn't normally ask it, but in Remember the dot's last RFA, that exact same question was asked, and the response wasn't satisfactory to me (something RtD mentioned in Question 4). Really, I think all admins should try to gain a basic understanding of IAR, though -- Wikipedia becomes more and more bureaucratic as time goes on. Ral315 (talk) 06:57, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

RE: Wikipedia accounts

No, Wikipedia accounts aren't deleted because of copyrights and stuff like that. As for the userboxes, they can be found here. If you don't find what you need, let me know and I'll make it for you. Me and RC used to live in the same neighborhood in Dayton, Ohio. He's my best friend. Burner0718 ^{(Jibba Jabba!)} 23:24, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

Slide Away

Hi there, I'm not sure about how you've done your move of Slide Away... It looks like you were trying to move the content from Slide Away (Verve song) to Slide Away which was fine, but you don't then need to nominate the original page for deletion. afds are generally used for controversial deletions, in future you may want to consider WP:prod or even WP:speedy deletions instead. In this case though, a redirect is probably best, as you don't then need to update every page that linked to the old page, it automatically takes people to the right one. Shout if you need a hand with anything by posting to my talk page. Paulbrock (talk) 21:36, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

re:warning vandals

Hey, the templates are found here. Now, for example, if you type(or copy and paste, which is what I do :)) this, {{subst:uw-vandalism1}}, you'll get this!

Welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to make constructive contributions to Wikipedia, at least one of your recent edits did not appear to be constructive and has been reverted or removed. Please use the sandbox for any test edits you would like to make, and take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Thank you.

Now, if you do this for example, {{subst:uw-vandalism1|Tom Brady}}, you'll get this,

Welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to make constructive contributions to Wikipedia, at least one of your recent edits, such as the one you made to Tom Brady, did not appear to be constructive and has been reverted or removed. Please use the sandbox for any test edits you would like to make, and take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Thank you.

Like I said above, you can find the library of warning templates here. Alot huh? Hope this helps. Burner0718 04:08, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

• I'll start using those. I have a lot to learn about the various templates. Thanks Enigmaman (talk) 05:09, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

No problem. Burner0718 05:15, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

adoption

Hey, uh, if you have over 1,000 edits, why are you adopted? RC-0722 ^communicator/_kills 15:41, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Because I never discovered adoption until I was well along. :) Enigmaman (talk) 16:54, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Neither did I. I would adopt a user but my block was last month and they like them to be at least six months old if you have one. RC-0722 ^communicator/_kills

Who knows, maybe I'll adopt someone one day. It is possible to have a lot of experience with Wikipedia and not know the finer details of the policies, templates, procedures, etc. So then you can either read through all the material they have, or ask someone. :D Enigmaman (talk) 17:06, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

True, true. RC-0722 ^communicator/_kills 17:38, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

re:signature

Thanks, I've never had someone complement my signature before. Yeah, I've never heard of allstarecho, but I know nelson (unfortunately). I was blocked by his buddy (pats1) for having a shared account. It was quite a coincidence since a few days before I had a dispute with him over a rewrite of week 17 on the 2007 New England Patriots season. RC-0722 ^communicator/_kills 18:05, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

re:indenting

Umm, I just go as far as I can before unindenting. the indents help others follow conversation. Your example really isn't too long, although I wouldn't go much further. I've went a little further than that before. I'd say this should be the max:

This is about as far as I'd go. Hope this helps. :) Burner0718 03:47, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Yeah. I think I'll just keep indenting in the future and let others worry about it. Heh. Enigmaman (talk) 03:49, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Good idea... :) Burner0718 03:53, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

The tilding "enigma" :)

I cleaned it up! (I think)--Sallicio^{$\color {Red}\oplus$} 06:53, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

One suggestion: You may want to include a link to your Talk page in your signature. User talk:Sallicio Enigma (talk) 06:56, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

This signature has my talk page in the target...even though I can't get it to say that it is my usertalk... see for yourself--->----Sallicio^{$\color {Red}\oplus$} 07:18, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Sh%*! I just had it...hold on. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sallicio (talk • contribs) 07:19, 11 February 2008 (UTC) ---Okay, NOW it links...but it still doesn't say usertalk. hmmph. ----Sallicio^{$\color {Red}\oplus$} 07:23, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

No, you got it. The oplus thingy now links to your talk page, and that's good. Most people with custom sigs have their name link to their user page and then something after that (a word, a symbol, or anything else) link to their talk page. Enigma (talk) 07:25, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

RfA

I wanted to be the first to congratulate you on passing the RfA this time. Good to have you as an administrator and good luck! You'll need it. Enigma (talk) 16:52, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks! There's still 2 more days left in my RfA, though. "It ain't over till it's over." —Remember the dot ^(talk) 18:57, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

I'm calling it now! It's getting ugly. :P Enigma (talk) 19:00, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

re:Not understanding something

I don't think he's not online so let me see. I know Mediawiki is a free software package for wikipedia and other wiki's but I don't know what a mediawiki solution is. RC-0722 ^communicator/_kills 21:14, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

You mean "I don't think he's online"? :P I'm just curious about it, because it sounded like Luna thought I would understand that. Enigma (talk) 21:36, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Sorry 'bout that. Yeah, I was talking to burner and he said he didn't know either so, you might just want to ask Luna upfront. RC-0722 ^communicator/_kills 23:13, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

RCs right, I don't know what a Mediawiki solution is. I'd recommend asking Luna too, sorry. I'm only on the english wikipedia and don't have a mediawiki account. BTW, it's ok about the message thingy... :) Burner0718 23:59, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

You mean you're not going to press charges? I appreciate it. :P Anyway, I did ask him earlier today. I'm waiting for a reply. Enigma (talk) 00:01, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Good idea... :) Burner0718 00:13, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

re:question for you

Yeah, I think so. It used to be like that on my userpage until I added the "My Dictionary" section. Hope that helps! RC-0722 ^communicator/_kills 04:24, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Same here. When I added about three or four sections to my userpage, I got the "contents" box. Burner0718 04:40, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

A new record?

Hi Enigma:

The short-lived user I was asking Jamie about was "Estonecipher666".

Turns out that was not even close to a record.

Some people seem to want to go from first edit to a block quickly.

Cheers, Wanderer57 (talk) 17:22, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks Enigma (talk) 18:13, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Hey

Did you hear? Nelson got blocked for 71 hours. RC-0722 ^communicator/_kills 23:35, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

Different. But funny. I would be laughing out loud right now but my parents are asleep. RC-0722 ^communicator/_kills 04:53, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, that's alot. RC-0722 ^communicator/_kills 14:19, 2 March 2008 (UTC)