Talk:Power forward (ice hockey)

Too many examples?

We had this discussion over at the Enforcer article, but I don't really love the idea of a huge, unruly list of power forwards. I also don't see the point of designating who is "active", since, well, who really cares. If you want to see whether the player is active, you can click the link and read the article. Croctotheface 12:08, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Since the heading is "past and present examples", it makes sense to point out who is active and who is not, which doesn't seem like that big a deal. However, it's tough to determine how many examples should be listed, seeing as how there is no definitive list in which to reference, not to mention the list is far from unanimous.TheKuLeR 07:58, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

I just don't see why, of all pieces of data to include, whether the player is currently on a roster is the one to go with. In general, categories are constructed so that they don't make a distinction between active and not active. In other words, Maurice Richard, Cristobal Huet, and Chris Higgins all go in the "Montreal Canadiens Plauyers" category, despite the fact that one is long retired, one is injured, and one is currently playing. I think the logic behind that is sound, as it prevents the need to make somewhat arbitrary determinations of what it means to be active and it prevents the upkeep required to enforce them. Also, for the record, the heading was not always "past and present examples"; it was changed, I believe, to follow the edits that someone made to the section. Croctotheface 12:25, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Examples section, still

I'm not sure if we should endeavor to make a list like this. It might be more appropriate for a category. I am not fond of the lack of sourcing here, since it causes the section to rely on the opinions of individual editors about what a power forward is and is not. If it remains unsourced, it may be appropriate to delete it. Croctotheface 05:24, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

It's been a week. I'm deleting. Croctotheface 00:30, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

On examples

• See this article:

Recent Canadian Press story about Eric Lindros They compare Lindros with Clark Gilles, and Cam Neeley and then say Neeley "invented" the power forward (huhn?). If Neeley was first the first guy who combined strengh/size with skill then what the hell were Bobby Clarke, Gordie Howe, and Mark Messier? I realize that the term powerforward is new (because it was borrowed from basketball) but the idea of combining strengh and skill is as old as the game. For that reason we should ignore half-cocked journalist like this. If we do need any examples (I don't really think we do) we should stick to things that respected hockey historians have to say about it. Kevlar67 07:43, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

As I understand it, Harry Sinden coined (borrowed) the term "power forward" when describing Neely, but I don't think anyone would seriously describe him as the first power forward -- just the first to have the label. (This message was typed while wearing a Cam Neely jersey, by the way.) Wayne Miller (talk) 22:45, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

Alexander Ovechkin

There is no artical outside of wikipedia that notes Alexander Ovechkin as a power forward. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Zanutig (talk • contribs) 21:59, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

I agree, someone was just being a dick and putting him in because they like him or something.