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It is highly biased. The article needs to be changed. [[User:Mathieu121|Mathieu121]] 10:50, 19 June 2006 (UTC) |
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Global Security has issues with this article
Global security has a totally different list of North Korean weaponry than this article does.
Apparently much of the North Korean equipment is manufactured in that country, though may be based on Russian equipment. However, this article seems to say that NK equipment is merely Russian.
Link to GS page: http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/dprk/weapons.htm
Largest?
The article says fourth largest, but the BBC said in 2002 that it was the third largest. Who is right, or has it changed since 2002? Edward 23:07, 15 Dec 2004 (UTC)
- I think that there is some confusion over the term "army". North Korea is the third largest in terms of land forces, but only the fourth largest military overall (since the US has a huge navy and air force).--Todd Kloos 21:34, 19 Jan 2005 (UTC)
"How weak is Europe? Lotto"
China has 1 million, counting only its army, excluding its navy or air force, as opposed to North Korea's combined forces of 1.2 million.
Within, or within?
The article states that fighters are stationed "100 miles within the DMZ". Should that read "within 100 miles of the DMZ" instead or am I missing something here?
Numbers seem meaningless
"North Korea may have a substantial armed forces in pure numeric terms, but this is largely misleading. On paper it may look impressive, but in reality it suffers major problems in regards to fuel and ammunition shortages. I think its misleading to say its the fourth biggest army to some degree."
While the logistics may be terrible, the army personel could very well be the fourth largest. It is not misleading in any way.
Troop Count is the best measure avaliable. Point one: NK only has to arm the soldiers in front anyways. When one gets killed the guy behind him picks up the rifle. Point two: There is no other laymans measure of a military force besides troop count, number of ships, aircraft etc. One could try to evaluate strong troops (good leadership, supplies, morale) from weak troops (dissertions etc) but such estimations by WP would surely fall in POV arguments. --mitrebox 20:21, 26 July 2005 (UTC) Counter-point Mitre: I can think of some problems with your arguements. in answer to point 1: "The Stalingrad strategy" can work, but it isn't something that is adviseable, and it does NOTHING agaisnt aircraft/mortars,etc. The United States/ South Korea (maybe Japan too) would hold absolute air superiority and the North Korean forces would be slaughtered, especially if they lack modern systems. Especially since the United States Air Force and Navy excel at weakening command/control/communications function. Remember that Iraq went from being one of the largest Armies in the world to only medium size in only three weeks during the Gulf War. point 2: Technology is a fairly good "layman's measure" of an army's capabilities, as are logistics. The danger of reporting on any communist millitary or any mil. at all is that Commies lie, but so do intelligence agencies. Both the American Intelligence apparatus and the Communists would have an interest in inflating the numbers and readiness of the North Korean Army. The American Apparatus would be interested in those numbers, particularly publically so as not to undermine the future support for war AND to make sure that the Army/Navy/Air Force keep an eye on things. --V. Joe 17:48, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
Template
I'm attempting to add a template to this article. --Mitrebox 05:30, 25 July 2005 (UTC)
Nm I just replaced the Manpower/Expendatures section with a table I created from Military_of_the_United_States. --Mitrebox 05:58, 25 July 2005 (UTC)
Reserves??
None of the military/army related articles on Wikipedia provide numbers for RESERVES. The U.S. has ~1.5 million active troops, but there is also about an equal number of reserve forces if you count the reserves and the national gaurd. I've seen statistics from The Center for Defense Information (www.cdi.org) however that number the DPRK's reserves as high as 4 million. It would be nice if someone would research this further using, for example, The Military Balance 2005-2006 from The IISS and add information on reserve numbers to this article, and perhaps other military-related articles as well. Facts and figures are important for issues like these. So it wouldnt hurt to add statistical numbers such as these. - Anon User
Is there any info about North Korea???
Its all like: "North korea has tanks, but south korea has more tanks, and the united states has far far more tanks!, and if we go to war, we'll pwn their asses!". Seriously, theres such a pre-war undertone to it, like it was the next war or something. I would very much like to see JUST info on north korea army, and not on south korea or the US.
I Added the articles. Mathieu121 19:20, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
List of Equipment of Army
I have created the link to the Ground Forces of Korea and have started the list of equipment. Updates, suggestions or comments would be appreciated. Mathieu121 10:50, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
i would like to see a list of small arms added if anyone is privy to that info GarrettJL 19:30, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
List of Equipment of Air Force
I have created the North Korean Air Force list of equipment section. Any updates, suggestions or comments would be appreciated. Mathieu121 10:50, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
List of Equipment of Navy
I have created the North Koreab Navy list of equipment. Updates, suggestions or comments would be appreciated. Mathieu121 10:50, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
Comparisons with South Korea
Why does this article seem preoccupied with comparing North Korea with South Korea? Is that not a bias. Skinnyweed 21:48, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
- Since an armed conflict between DPRK+China vs. South Korea+USA has a high probability, it is obvious to compare the two Koreas' military might. Since neither Korea has big navy, thgey can only use their military against land neighbours, which is each other. (DPRK will not attack Red China obviously!)
It is highly biased. The article needs to be changed. Mathieu121 10:50, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
- No, keep it.
Links
I'm pretty sure about this, but this doesn't seem right. What does Crysis have to do with the North Korean Army besides that the main character fights them? I don't think it should be in the See Also section. Darth Gladius (talk) 23:17, 3 January 2008 (UTC)