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X and Mega Man look simular, but they are not the same. Capcom has yet to officially bridge the classic and the X series together with any one game, and at this rate it remains to be seen. - Aubrey <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/71.127.186.101|71.127.186.101]] ([[User talk:71.127.186.101|talk]]) 09:49, 1 April 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
X and Mega Man look simular, but they are not the same. Capcom has yet to officially bridge the classic and the X series together with any one game, and at this rate it remains to be seen. - Aubrey <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/71.127.186.101|71.127.186.101]] ([[User talk:71.127.186.101|talk]]) 09:49, 1 April 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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I hate it but it is true, Mega Man X and Mega Man are two different characters. So two characters = two articles. |
Revision as of 09:09, 3 April 2008
The Blue Bomber
The article said: In the English-speaking world, Mega Man's popularity and color scheme have resulted in him earning the nickname, "Blue Bomber" (which also went on to be used in game in Mega Man Powered Up).
There is nothing that supports or proves that anybody calls him the Blue Bomber, so I have changed it to: In parts of the English speaking world, a small few have renamed Mega Man to "The Blue Bomber" because of his blue armor.
As for why I made the change, the only two times I've ever heard him called this is when someone called him that and directed me here because this is where they first learned of the name, and the article itself. Megaman is becoming known as the Blue Bomber, but only because someone put that in this article in the first place. There is no attributable source saying that Megaman is called the Blue Bomber on a wide scale. If he was called the Blue Bomber in Mega Man Powered Up, then someone should put it there, though I noticed that the name in question wasn't mentioned in that article at all. If I'm wrong, I'll take back everything I said, but come on. The Blue Bomber? Glotnot 11:06, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
It is just as much a conjecture to claim that few call him by that name as it is to say that many do. It is quite a popular nickname in game magazines, for certain, and I think the first time I ever heard of Mega Man it was in connection to the nickname. I might cobble together some sources later, but for now I'm just registering my opposition. 83.70.178.165 11:39, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
- IGN, Gamespot, press releases, gamespy, Kotaku, just to name a few. Easily found via a quick Google... [1] Beeawwb 05:46, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
"Blue Bomber" was used in a commercial to celebrate Megaman's 14th anniversary I think it was. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.138.213.87 (talk) 00:29, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
I think one source of this nickname (whether or not it was started here or not) was Nintendo Power magazine. The name "Blue Bomber" was used to describe him in several issues and articles in the late (very late) 80's and early 90's. However, I am not sure whether they coined this phrase or simply helped perpetuate this name. Also, in the first episode of the American Mega Man cartoon series (The Beginning), Proto Man is quoted, "Mega Man! The blue bomber!" when Mega Man arrives. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.249.229.162 (talk) 07:36, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
On the back of the instruction manual from the Mega Man X Anniversay Collection, there is an advertisement for a Mega Man X-themed controlled, and it refers to him as "The Blue Bomber." —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.70.97.68 (talk) 07:26, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
Bongo?
The article says "Megaman, alternatively spelled Bongo or Mr. Roboto". Maybe I'm a n00b, but I HIGHLY doubt such things. --Naruttebayo 03:09, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
The power of Shadow Hog
Is this article necessary? I think a redirect to the main 'series' article is more appropriate, unless this article is expanded to equal or greater depth than is already present there. Aerion 17:35, 21 Nov 2004 (UTC)
- When we actually go into detail about Mega Man himself, then yes. For now, maybe not.
- That said, maybe it's editing time. --Shadow Hog 18:13, 21 Nov 2004 (UTC)
- I'd say this page should be expanded on greatly once Rockman Rockman comes out.
- There's already bound to be a plethora of information that will surface in that game's storyline.LanceHeart 18:52, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
Japanese name format
The following text was added by an anon:
Trivia: The official spelling of the character name in Japan is actually "Rockman" without a space. This is because the Japanese language does not use spaces. Capcom's official stand in the issue of character-names in western Mega Man games however is that the names ought to be written with a space (even the popularily used Protoman). This has caused a lot of confusion since in some older games where translations have not been as accurate the names were sometimes presented without the space. Regardless, even the name of the main character is often written incorrectly even by Capcom.
I'm not really enthusiastic about letting this sit as it is, (1) because it was added after the {{stub}}, but more importantly, (2) because it takes up a sizeable portion of the page explaining a minor technicality. As such, I've made a minor change on the article to reflect the (valid) point made here, but also moved the text here so that it might be incorporated into a future, longer version of the page. ... Of course, some of the incorrect statements might want to be cleaned up (Japanese certainly does use spaces!) Aerion//talk 16:34, 13 Dec 2004 (UTC)
- Well, {{stub}} CAN only be for a specific section; I believe I've seen some other game pages have the story section a stub while the rest was deemed complete... can't think of an example off the top of my head, though. --Shadow Hog 23:02, 13 Dec 2004 (UTC)
- My friend, who is an exchange student in Japan, confirms that there are no spaces in the Japanese language.83.233.58.37 09:16, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
Monsteropolis et al
Concerning the latest edits by 193.65.112.2, here is why they are wrong:
Monsteropolis appears only in the manual for Mega Man on NES and contradicts both Japanese canon and later games.
The Rock Upper can be clearly seen in Mega Man VII's secret one-on-one battle mode; perform it with QCF Y. In this game it was based on the Slash Claw weapon, but in Rockman 2: the Power Fighters its animation was redrawn to be more clearly a solar energy attack.
Consensus shown on Talk:Mega Man series shows that the name should be written "Mega Man" and not "MegaMan" (whcih was never correct for the original series). --Boco XLVII 14:12, 26 Jan 2005 (UTC)
24.119.243.65 made this change to this for some reason frequently-edited section.
- There is some debate as to where exactly he lives. Some believe he lives in the midwestern United States while others assume he lives in Japan. It's generally accepted that he lives with Dr. Light. (It's worth noting that the instruction booklet for the American release of the original Mega Man lists the character as hailing from "Monstropolis," which most likely derives from the words "monster" and "metropolis;" literally, "monster city.")
Please play Rockman 8 and look at the map. You can clearly see that Dr. Right's lab is in the midwestern US. This is confirmed by many many other sources. Also, PLEASE stop with the "Monsteropolis" already. --Boco XLVII 23:47, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
Everything anyone would ever want to know about the series in far too much detail that really shouldn't be in this article and was signed by the contributor
So, I removed it. Anyone wanting to merge some of the ore detailed info from it back into the article is welcome, but we don't need a blow-by-blow of each game - that's what the games are for. Just stuff about Rock. Read it here if you like. --Boco XLVII 29 June 2005 04:56 (UTC)
Megaman as an Asimovian Robot?
The current article reads: "Mega Man, like most robots, obeys Isaac Asimov's Three Laws of Robotics, particularly the First Law: "A robot may not harm a human being, or, through inaction, allow a human being to come to harm." "
Is this really true? I find it hard to believe. Megaman is always killing little robot creatures, and consistently attacks Dr. Wily at the very end -- surely there is a possibility that Wily might die, making Megaman's behavior not quite Asimovian. Thoughts? wdaher 08:55, 21 December 2005 (UTC)
I think it's in a more heroic sense of the first law. However, in regards to that, the robots he destroys aren't human...they're, you know...robots (ones trying to hurt humans to boot). So that point is completely irrelevent. As far as attacking Wiley, it was in defense of humanity. Also, incidentally, Megaman never achieved the act of killing Wiley albeit implicit attempts to the contrary. So, I think that's pretty true to Asimov's first rule. Ereinion 02:36, 22 December 2005 (UTC)
Keep in mind that in none of the megaman games does he ever actually go after the surrendering wily, megaman only ever attacks his machines, once he has destroyed the machine where Wily hides megaman stops attacking.
There is of course, one exception. In that game ending (I dont want to spoil anyone) is where Asimov's rule is mentioned, and that is what gives the most relevance to the article section quoted by wdaher.Cauzilo 03:44, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
Rockman iX?
Is Rockman iX even canon? To my knowledge, iX is a made-up character from a Bob and George fancomic.--Vercalos 03:42, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
He is, to a certain extent, IX is character from the megamission rockman x collecting cards (I understand they are battle cards?) he was further fleshed out in the megamission episode of "rockman remix" by Hitoshi Ariga ( check link for scanlation http://tanjou.northmark.net/megamission.php) and also Cauzilo 03:43, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
Reason why Rockman is named Mega Man outside Japan
Capcom USA is very secretive when it comes to explain their bad dubbing and character renaming, but with a little digging, every answer can be found.
One of the most known change are the names Balrog, Vega and M. Bison in Street Fighter, but even before this legendary fighting game got the change, our Blue hero got his.
As you know, you cannot have products with the same name in the same category. For example, I wouldn't be able to market a Yo-Yo and call it Yo-Yo, same deal when it comes to video games. So how does this affect Rockman? Take a look at these two pictures before I continue:
http://i6.tinypic.com/11qspwp.jpg http://i6.tinypic.com/11qsqat.jpg
These were cassette games for the Commodore 16 and it’s the ultimate proof why we’re stuck with such a 1960 hero name like Mega Man. Now I’s no lawyer, that’s a fact, but even back in 1987, there could have been a way to buy that name from this company (Mastertronic) in order to use the name Rockman for the NES since these Commodore games were never planned to be ported to a game consoles in the first place.
Then again, perhaps Capcom did not imagine that this single game would have spun off half a million sequels and spin-offs, so maybe that’s why they didn’t bother.
But still, if it’s just a question of being cheap, I’m sure Capcom USA is kicking themselves in the nuts every time they have to change the NA titles of a new Rockman game (most Japanese games have English menus at the title screen, so this is not something that’s normally changed in when translating unless the title needs to be changed).
Also, even if there was no way of using the name back then, Mastertronic sort of died after being purchased by SEGA in the early 90’, so they could have swallowed their pride by now and changed the name like SEGA did for Eggman (Robotnik) and Nintendo for Princess Peach (Princess Toadstool).
- For some reason, I think it would've been harder for Mega Man fans to accept him as Rockman than it was for Mario fans to accept Princess Toadstool as Peach. Jeff Silvers 16:00, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
- I disagree. Any glance at a major Mega Man forum will tell there is strong support for the Japanese naming conventions. -ZeroTalk 20:41, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
- Agree, most people who still play Rockman these days are fans. Fans tend to go by the original source, like in Anime; dubs are no good for them.Duhman0008 13:37, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
- If I remember correctly, Mega Man Anniversary Collection stated that the name Mega Man was simply due to Western trends; they thought the name Rockman would not catch on as well.Gargomon251 02:45, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
This article is currently a testbed for a unified computer/video game character infobox, {{General CVG character}}. It uses a series-specific subbox, {{Mega Man character}}.
Input on this infobox would be appreciated; note that the addition of things that would be obvious to readers unfamiliar with Mega Man (such as what series is involved) is intentional. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 06:18, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
- I'm neutral on this. It looks very suitible for "blue" characters such as Rockman presently, but I previewed the infobox on Zero and on a more varied article, Nightmare Police; it looked quite shabby. Gate didn't look nice at all.
- Perhaps I'm used to seeing the old infoboxes but I've no idead why it looks so horrid on some drawn illustration images. It doesn't seem to mesh into the background paticularly well. -ZeroTalk 20:54, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
Mega Man, MegaMan, Megaman
Which is correct? The character is spelled Megaman in (as far I know...) all the classic and X series, so should it not be the correct name? MegaMan is wrong in classic, X and Zero, but is right in Battle Network. Mega Man is more for the games titles then the characters. --23:49, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
MegaMan is used in Legends, and possible Battle Network. Mega Man and Megaman are both acceptable for the remaining three, but Capcom is now leaning towards Mega Man.
However, it really doesn't matter. It's all MegaMan. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.95.245.5 (talk) 02:10, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
Mega Man (character) to GA status
Hey guys. I did a huge write up today and hoped it would bring the article one step closer to GA status. There are still lots of things to be done, and hopefully I can help get to them in the next few days. Remember, you can help!
- Clean up and "de-universe" the Character section. For articles on fiction, this is important.
- Copy editing
- Get more sources! Mods looooove sources, and with Mega Man, there's no shortage of sites.
- Outside info on Mega Man, like TV show references, books, and even stuff from other games.
- Some info on "Rockman Perfect Memories" would be nice.
- Fluff and expand certain sections (But not too much! There is such a thing as too big of an article, look at Mario).
- Peer review. Maybe not now, but eventually.
- Any other good ideas from other fiction/character pages that have been Good/Featured.
Do it for Mega Man, people. (Nall 05:14, 1 November 2006 (UTC))
"Redd"? Due to his... blue... colour scheme? Also, what?
Noting Megaman's supposed appearence in Brawl
There's been a paragraph in the "In Other Games" section, which says in one way or another, that Megaman might appear in Brawl. I tried removing it, as per WP:CRYSTAL, but it seems there's some disagreement about it. First, let me point out that there is no verifiable source stating that Megaman will, 100% positive, be in Brawl. Until Masahiro Sakurai specifically says that Megaman will make an appearence in Brawl, it isn't a sure thing that he'll be in it. All there is about Megaman's appearence in Brawl so far is just fan speculation - which I doubt is a reliable source. Now, I want Megaman to be in Brawl as much as the next person, but wait until it's confirmed he'll be in it before putting it on Wikipedia.
I'm removing the current incarnation of the paragraph, since it's based off of the editor's observation of a video and violates WP:NOR. Get an outside, verifiable, reputable source stating the same thing, and it might be alright. Ibm2431 01:34, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
- Well, Megaman is Sakurai's number 1 sugjested third party character. I know a site that proves it, but I cant find it.
- Wrong.
- ^ Sonic to Appear in Super Smash Bros Brawl?. GameSpot (2006-08-20). Retrieved on June 21, 2007. “Supposedly, in recent interview with Tips and Tricks Magazine, the legendary game designer said that Sonic was the most requested character by fans of the game.”
from SSBBGargomon251 16:54, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
Marvel vs Capcom image
This image needs to be changed to show his default state rather than the giant robot super move. People will think that's what Megaman looks like on this game. Mr.bonus 15:52, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
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Explementating?
I don't think this is a word, but I'm not sure what actual word was intended.Mild Bill Hiccup 12:46, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
Reorganization
Hey maybe this article could be reorganized to something close to Solid Snake's article, focusing less on "Abilities" and other such sections and focusing more on his out-of-universe impact. I'll help if I can, but I suck at doing such drastic edits, as far as making Featured Articles is concerned. It's a shame that such an influential character doesn't have featured article status. ♣ Klptyzm Chat wit' me § Contributions ♣ 04:49, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
- Hmm, no one want's to help? ♣ Klptyzm Chat wit' me § Contributions ♣ 03:59, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
ロックマン Romanji
On all Megaman articals features Rokkuman as the romanji for ロックマン. But when I translated it it came out Rotukuman, as ロ=Ro, ッ=tu, ク=ku, マ=ma, ン=n. So where does the second K come from? Sarujo (talk) 12:52, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
- You're not taking the ッ character properly. While ツ can be romanized as "tsu", ッ (known as a soukon), is completely different. What the soukon does is imitate the following consonant sound. In this case, the 'k' from ク (ku). So, the name comes out as Ro - k - ku - ma - n. SpeedBurner (talk) 01:15, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
Fair use rationale for Image:Rock before transforming to Mega Man.png
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BetacommandBot (talk) 04:28, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
'Rainbow Man' name possibility section
I have added information to the article and because this is one of my first attempts at wikipediaing I don't think i did it properly. I added this prior to finding my source, however no one has contested it yet. The information about a possibility of his name being "Rainbow Man" upon initial release in the US was based on an article out of Nintendo Power Magazine. If I recall it is the same issue that has the walkthrough for Mega Man 5 and the fan submitted art that spawned Knight Man and Wind Man in Mega Man 6. However, all my back issues are in storage so I cannot add the proper issue to site. If anyone has this issue or knows which it is to site please add a citation to the information. Once i am able to get into my storage unit I will dig out the proper issue so that it can be cited properly. I'm not even sure if this is the proper place to post this, but I'd appreciate any help on this matter. 70.249.229.162 (talk) 07:46, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
- I'll place a "citation needed" on the statement until someone finds the proper source to maybe give it a chance before somone contests it as plain original research, i.e., an unverifiable claim. But if you do find it on your own, you can check out WP:CITE to learn how to source statements. ♣ Klptyzm Chat wit' me § Contributions ♣ 20:44, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
If at some time all images are deleted from this article…
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Megaman.EXE character
I do think we should make some mention of the NetNavi character in this page. When I looked up Megaman, it was this character I was hoping to find information on, not the robot. If anything else, we could always employ disambiguation. Just my 2 cents on a problem I encountered. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Thunderflame (talk • contribs) 17:18, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
- Megaman exe has his own article and it would also not make much sense to mention him here because this is about the Mega Man from the original series. In short, despite having similar names they are different chatacters with different histories. --76.71.209.167 (talk) 22:06, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
Merge in Mega Man X character
They are both Mega Man, there is zero need for two articles that cover the exact same character only with a fresh new look. Judgesurreal777 (talk) 22:59, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
- I take it you haven't played the games. X is not Mega Man. They're two different characters. Satoryu (talk) 05:02, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
- Does that mean I can remove that merging thing at the top of the article? SpeedBurner (talk) 01:10, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
Mega Man and Mega Man X are COMPLETELY DIFFERENT. They should NOT be merged into the same character on Wikipedia. That will only further confuse newcomers of the series.
All X titles have an X in their title, and do NOT use Roman Numerals that the "Classic" series uses. They involve X, whom according to "Mega Man: Maverick Hunter X", he is NEVER given the name "MEGA MAN", only "X"! He is NOT named a Mega Man, just as Zero is not named "MEGA MAN" in the Zero series. The title remains "MEGA MAN" because it is part of the Mega Man saga!
However, Rockman, AKA Mega Man here in the states, turns INTO Mega Man to fight Dr. Wily or other random evils that rear their heads in "Classic" series. He is called Mega Man all the time, but when in his "boy" form he is referred to as "Rock". This is his "given" or "birth" name. Just like Peter Parker is not called Spider Man unless he is in the suit, Mega Man is not called by that name unless he is in HIS suit.
X and Mega Man look simular, but they are not the same. Capcom has yet to officially bridge the classic and the X series together with any one game, and at this rate it remains to be seen. - Aubrey —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.127.186.101 (talk) 09:49, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
I hate it but it is true, Mega Man X and Mega Man are two different characters. So two characters = two articles.