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==White Nationalists? Really?==

I suppose Reuters is run by "white nationalists"?
The Independent of London?
United Press International?
The Local, a SWEDISH newspaper?
The L.A. Times?

Absolut value of ad low north of border
The Herald-Times, IN
MEXICO CITY — The latest advertising campaign in Mexico from Swedish vodka maker Absolut seemed to push all the right buttons south of the US border, ... http://www.heraldtimesonline.com/stories/2008/04/08/nationworld.qp-9758035.sto

Absolut vodka pulls ad showing California in Mexico
Reuters - 11 hours ago
MEXICO CITY (Reuters) - The distillers of Sweden's Absolut vodka have withdrawn an advertisement run in Mexico that angered many US citizens by idealizing ... http://www.reuters.com/article/domesticNews/idUSN0729018920080408

Storm in a shot glass as advert redraws map of Americas
Independent, UK - 14 hours ago
By David Usborne in New York A whimsical ad by the makers of Absolut vodka aimed solely at consumers in Mexico has drawn the ire of some ... http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/storm-in-a-shot-glass-as-advert-redraws-map-of-americas-805764.html

'Absolut' Arrogance
Evening Bulletin, PA - 20 hours ago
According to the Swedish vodka maker, the answer is simple: In an Absolut world, Texas' independence would be rescinded, the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo ... http://www.thebulletin.us/site/index.cfm?newsid=19460395&BRD=2737&PAG=461&dept_id=576361&rfi=8

Absolut Vodka causes a stir with Mexico ad
Gadling, CA - 20 hours ago
by Anna Brones Apr 7th 2008 @ 11:16AM Absolut Vodka is known round the world for its creative ad campaigns. With the most recent campaign however, ... http://www.gadling.com/2008/04/07/absolut-vodka-causes-a-stir-with-mexico-ad/

Absolut-ly sorry
Independent, UK - Apr 7, 2008
By Leonard Doyle The hilarious campaign slogan, "In an Absolut World", showed a 1830s-era map when Mexico included California, Texas and other southwestern ... http://blogs.independent.co.uk/the_campaign_trailers/2008/04/absolut-ly-sorr.html

The world is not Absolut
Daily Vidette, IL - Apr 6, 2008
In an advertising campaign for the Swedish vodka brand, Absolut, targeted for Mexico, a map of the US and Mexico is shown. While the actual act of showing a ... http://www.dailyvidette.com/home/news/2008/04/07/Viewpoint/The-World.Is.Not.Absolut-3305800.shtml

Vodka firm 'sorry' over Mexico advert
Scotsman, United Kingdom - Apr 6, 2008
By Mark Stevenson THE Absolut vodka company has apologised for an advertising campaign depicting the south-western United States as part of Mexico, ... http://news.scotsman.com/world/Vodka-firm-39sorry39-over-.3952992.jp

Absolut campaign sparks controversy
United Press International - Apr 6, 2008
LOS ANGELES, April 6 (UPI) -- A new marketing campaign for the Swedish vodka Absolut that shows California as part of Mexico has sparked a growing ... http://www.upi.com/NewsTrack/Entertainment/2008/04/06/absolut_campaign_sparks_controversy/8090/

Mexico reclaims California in Absolut Vodka advert
The Local, Sweden - Apr 5, 2008
A print and billboard campaign by Absolut Vodka in Mexico has caused tempers to flare in the United States. Some Americans have called for a boycott of the ... http://www.thelocal.se/10928/20080405/

Sparks continue to fly over Absolut's Mexico ad
Los Angeles Times, CA - Apr 5, 2008
The furor over the Absolut vodka Mexican border ad roars on. The Drudge Report posted a link to our post yesterday showing the ad and including the tagline, ... http://feeds.latimes.com/~r/LaPlaza/~3/264592416/sparks-fly-over.html

Vodka Maker Apologizes for Ad Depicting Southwest as Part of Mexico
FOXNews - Apr 5, 2008
MEXICO CITY — The Absolut vodka company apologized Saturday for an ad campaign depicting the southwestern US as part of Mexico amid angry calls for a ...
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,346964,00.html

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Absolut Citron

I notice that there is a working link for Absolut Citron in the list of flavors- but it links back to this page. On a similar note... does it really make sense to request articles for the various flavors of Absolut? Wouldn't they all be condemned to stub-dom? Kaitwospirit 01:42, 5 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Cleanup

The only listed source which is not an Absolut-owned corporate webpage only supports the section on name origins. This article reads at times like an ad - and not a brilliant one at that.) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 172.161.96.161 (talkcontribs).

I concur. I replaced the (CITATION?) messages with the [citation needed] template and added a cleanup tag to the article. Aep 03:08, 13 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Absolut PEPPAR

Apparently, the person who added the note about Absolut PEPPAR has never tasted the stuff. It is most certainly not chili pepper-flavored, but black pepper-flavored. It's my favorite of the lot.

tell someone that cares. HaereMai (talk) 00:01, 9 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

In the marketing section it links to AbsolutCollectors.com which apparently isn't up anymore. Also: AbsolutCollectors.com is listed in the external links...should i remove this, does anyone know what is going on with this website?

GMoonit 23:29, 15 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

100 Proof

I distinctly remember 100 proof Absolut in 1996 or earlier. Came in a bottle with red lettering instead of blue. So why is it down as being introduced in 2007? Angryscientist 06:04, 19 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Indeed there is the red labeled 100% proof and the black & silver labeled 100 % proof. For the differences i dunno.
I agree. I have been drinking 100-proof Absolut since 2005.
Yes, it certainly was not launched in '07. There are online reviews of this vodka out there dating back much further. [1]. I removed the reference, and also made a minor change to the name of this variety. It is not officially called Absolute 100. It is simply called Absolute Vodka. The differentiation is in the label itself--red coloring and the labeled notation of 100 proof liquor. Stivo 01:18, 8 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The new bottle is a re-launch of the product, it is to attract a vodka to the male demographic. and is spelt as with all products "ABSOLUT" not 'absolute' as quoted above. The new product is called officially ABSOLUT 100.

That explains a lot. I work in a state store in PA and someone asked me what the difference was between the 100-proof Absolut with red lettering and Absolut 100, and the information on the bottles was exactly the same. That's what I was researching. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.172.186.128 (talk) 15:11, 24 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Absolut New Orleans

Absolut New Orleans needs to be added to the flavor lineup. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.43.94.13 (talk) 00:20, August 24, 2007 (UTC)

Semi Protect

Could someone protect this page to new users? Apparently some non-notable bloggers have taken offense to their recent ad campaign and have repeatedly vandalized this page.--147.126.95.167 (talk) 20:29, 4 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Considering the fact that Absolut has issued a statement on their website regarding the matter([2]), and it has been mentioned by the Los Angeles Times ([3]), I think it is a bit more than a few "non-notable" bloggers. I myself am rather incensed at the ad, and will go out of my way to not buy their product in the future. I've added a segment on the issue to the article. -- Grandpafootsoldier (talk) 21:48, 4 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
It was in LA Time's blog, an opinion site, and the other source used was a blog as well. If there are some neutral points of view, like a newspaper article, a news story, etc, I would consider keeping it, but for right now, I'd keep my emotions in check about it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.173.127.11 (talk) 05:37, 5 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Absolut has issued a response defending the ad on their website ([4]). I think it's time to stop blaming messengers and let it go up. IMSnooping (talk) 12:40, 5 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

A bit of perspective: Absolut has been in business for some 130 years offering middle brow vodka and vodka based products to the masses. They've offered whimsical advertising of every description for years.

Given their long history, there is no way a single ad campaign (or a single ad in it) gone unnoticed by all but a small contingent of white supremacists and other miscellaneous right wingers looking for their "controversy" du jour could rise to the level of notability that would merit its inclusion in the page. Given that absolut-ly no one cares outside of the Malkin set, a rather fringe political demographic to be sure, I'd have to second the motion to protect the page until the "issue" is forgotten (i.e. next week). The rabbit in the suitcase (talk) 02:25, 7 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

What exactly are you censors trying to protect Absolut from? The truth is the truth -- and the truth about this ad is no less notable than references on the article to any of their ads. Are you afraid of people knowing the truth? The LA Times has reported on this issue more than once. Absolut has issued two statements -- one defending the ad, one apologizing for it and announcing its withdrawal. Whether you're animated by the ad or not is of no consequence -- it's a notable event in Absolut's history and it belongs on the article.IMSnooping (talk) 17:50, 7 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I will agree that the article is a bit chatty in that it includes references to some ad campaigns for which Absolut is not especially noted. This is a weakness of the text to be sure. All the more reason that it should not be compounded with more nonsense like it.

The truth, as you say, is that the Mexico ads are being flogged by people with a fairly clear political agenda and that within a few days no one except a small political fringe of right blog readers will remember this ever happened. Indeed, the entire purpose of edits regarding the Mexico ads is to try to perpetuate and expand the supposed outrage into the mainstream. As such, the edits are fundamentally non-encyclopedic in nature. The rabbit in the suitcase (talk) 22:54, 7 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

To put it more simply: The edits including this Mexico ad business amount to political activism. See Wikipedia:SOAP etc. There's also an NPOV issue: If the interest in the subject is restricted to American white nationalists, it seems to me that its inclusion, being an assertion of its notability to a general audience, is just not justifiable within the context of an encyclopedia taking a neutral point of view. The rabbit in the suitcase (talk) 23:02, 7 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Right, but the entrance in the political sphere was made not by "white nationalists" (?), but by Absolut. They're the ones who ran the overtly political ad. It's not as if people are making this up about Absolut. They made their own beds and there's no reason that something notable that Absolut did shouldn't find its way onto their article. And you're wrong that the matter is only of interest to a small sliver of people. Go to Absolut's website and read the comments to their statement. Last I looked, there were about 1000 comments, from people who lay claim to any number of political stripes.
I'd feel differently if somebody twisted something Absolut did. But it's a factual report about a factual ad. And a great deal of this particular article relates to Absolut's adverstising (as it the case with many consumer products companies).
In any event, you're blaming the messenger. This addition is entirely in keeping with WP's guidelines.IMSnooping (talk) 04:31, 8 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

If there are some neutral points of view, like a newspaper article, a news story, etc, I would consider keeping it, but for right now, I'd keep my emotions in check about it.

How about these for news paper articles and news stories?

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-absolut6apr06,1,4346417.story (no this is not the LAT tblog) http://www.reuters.com/article/domesticNews/idUSN0729018920080408 http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,346964,00.html

Yes this is a real news story and not some blog story as you seem to think. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.200.91.129 (talk) 13:18, 8 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

controversial pic from campaign

somebody who knows how to do this, please upload this pic to the abslute page: http://media.monstersandcritics.com/articles/1398461/article_images/absolutad.jpg —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.220.161.192 (talk) 22:46, 7 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

White Nationalists? Really?

I suppose Reuters is run by "white nationalists"? The Independent of London? United Press International? The Local, a SWEDISH newspaper? The L.A. Times?

Absolut value of ad low north of border The Herald-Times, IN MEXICO CITY — The latest advertising campaign in Mexico from Swedish vodka maker Absolut seemed to push all the right buttons south of the US border, ... http://www.heraldtimesonline.com/stories/2008/04/08/nationworld.qp-9758035.sto

Absolut vodka pulls ad showing California in Mexico Reuters - 11 hours ago MEXICO CITY (Reuters) - The distillers of Sweden's Absolut vodka have withdrawn an advertisement run in Mexico that angered many US citizens by idealizing ... http://www.reuters.com/article/domesticNews/idUSN0729018920080408

Storm in a shot glass as advert redraws map of Americas Independent, UK - 14 hours ago By David Usborne in New York A whimsical ad by the makers of Absolut vodka aimed solely at consumers in Mexico has drawn the ire of some ... http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/storm-in-a-shot-glass-as-advert-redraws-map-of-americas-805764.html

'Absolut' Arrogance Evening Bulletin, PA - 20 hours ago According to the Swedish vodka maker, the answer is simple: In an Absolut world, Texas' independence would be rescinded, the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo ... http://www.thebulletin.us/site/index.cfm?newsid=19460395&BRD=2737&PAG=461&dept_id=576361&rfi=8

Absolut Vodka causes a stir with Mexico ad Gadling, CA - 20 hours ago by Anna Brones Apr 7th 2008 @ 11:16AM Absolut Vodka is known round the world for its creative ad campaigns. With the most recent campaign however, ... http://www.gadling.com/2008/04/07/absolut-vodka-causes-a-stir-with-mexico-ad/

Absolut-ly sorry Independent, UK - Apr 7, 2008 By Leonard Doyle The hilarious campaign slogan, "In an Absolut World", showed a 1830s-era map when Mexico included California, Texas and other southwestern ... http://blogs.independent.co.uk/the_campaign_trailers/2008/04/absolut-ly-sorr.html

The world is not Absolut Daily Vidette, IL - Apr 6, 2008 In an advertising campaign for the Swedish vodka brand, Absolut, targeted for Mexico, a map of the US and Mexico is shown. While the actual act of showing a ... http://www.dailyvidette.com/home/news/2008/04/07/Viewpoint/The-World.Is.Not.Absolut-3305800.shtml

Vodka firm 'sorry' over Mexico advert Scotsman, United Kingdom - Apr 6, 2008 By Mark Stevenson THE Absolut vodka company has apologised for an advertising campaign depicting the south-western United States as part of Mexico, ... http://news.scotsman.com/world/Vodka-firm-39sorry39-over-.3952992.jp

Absolut campaign sparks controversy United Press International - Apr 6, 2008 LOS ANGELES, April 6 (UPI) -- A new marketing campaign for the Swedish vodka Absolut that shows California as part of Mexico has sparked a growing ... http://www.upi.com/NewsTrack/Entertainment/2008/04/06/absolut_campaign_sparks_controversy/8090/

Mexico reclaims California in Absolut Vodka advert The Local, Sweden - Apr 5, 2008 A print and billboard campaign by Absolut Vodka in Mexico has caused tempers to flare in the United States. Some Americans have called for a boycott of the ... http://www.thelocal.se/10928/20080405/

Sparks continue to fly over Absolut's Mexico ad Los Angeles Times, CA - Apr 5, 2008 The furor over the Absolut vodka Mexican border ad roars on. The Drudge Report posted a link to our post yesterday showing the ad and including the tagline, ... http://feeds.latimes.com/~r/LaPlaza/~3/264592416/sparks-fly-over.html

Vodka Maker Apologizes for Ad Depicting Southwest as Part of Mexico FOXNews - Apr 5, 2008 MEXICO CITY — The Absolut vodka company apologized Saturday for an ad campaign depicting the southwestern US as part of Mexico amid angry calls for a ... http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,346964,00.html