Talk:Use of DNA in forensic entomology

 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ctmfc (talk • contribs) 14:05, 8 April 2008 (UTC) 

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I, too, think this is a very important part in Forensic entomology. Without the use of these tools and researches many cases could go unsolved. With more information like this getting to the public the study and research of such important species is only to grow. This inturn will help the public understand the importance of things such as the body farm and how it is helpful, not cruel or babaric. Crosenbalm (talk) 14:54, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

I think this is a very important, if not the most important part of Entomology in the Forensic field. I think the article was very informative and precise, but still a little primitive. Not because of a lack of info provided on your part but because of the youth of the issue itself. This will be a wonderful article to follow up on in time and as more information is uncovered. Great job!

I found a section of the Entomology and the law that I am going to reword and link to your page. Check out the very bottom section which talks about DNA analysis as it pertains to their topic.Quatrevingtsix (talk) 02:45, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

It would be great if we (Group 20 Forensic entomology and society) could link to your page. We have a section for famous cases so if you know of any that used DNA and forensic ento let me know and I will add it to our page and link to you. I'll see if I can find one too. Also, PCR was an earth shattering technique that revolutionized sequencing and could stand to be expanded slightly, maybe by explaining its significance to the case. Other than that I think this is a good article with lots of potential as it gets more exposure.Quatrevingtsix (talk) 21:36, 25 March 2008

• Don't say "it would be great if" - just create the link for goodness sake! As I have been requesting for several days! -- RHaworth (Talk | contribs) 08:13, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

This article was very informative. Maybe some pictures could be included. For example, pictures of DNA analyzing equipment. Other than that, the article was interesting. Dbw279 (talk) 20:33, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

Hey guys--make the changes required by the warning banners as soon as possible. you don't want your article deleted. ABrundage, Texas A&M University (talk) 21:55, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

• You heard what the woman said. Action the {{linkless}} tag - do not keep removing it. -- RHaworth (Talk | contribs) 09:48, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

I dont understand what you mean by linkless apparently, because we have plenty of links on our paper. dansha4521f (UTC)

I misunderstood at first too, it means no other articles refer to ours. It's an "orphan". —Preceding unsigned comment added by Antarcticgecko (talk • contribs) 06:00, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

• Do you understand now? I hope Adrienne will tell you to create incoming links but in fact it is not mandatory from the standpoint of Wikipedia policy. However one thing is absolutely clear: if you are not willing to create incoming links, you must leave the {{linkless}} tag in place. Do you understand? If the linkless tag gets removed once more, I shall protect the page out of sheer frustration.

Also, could you point me to the bit in the MoS that says we have an "Introduction" section. I thought that articles started straight off with an intro paragraph. -- RHaworth (Talk | contribs) 09:13, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

• I should not need to "explain in great detail", you should learn to read. Yes, there are plenty of outgoing links. But there are no actual articles which link to this page - see Special:WhatLinksHere/Use of DNA in forensic entomology. To put that as simply as I can: the {{linkless}} tag is a request that you should go to other articles and create links in them to this article. Do you understand now? See my comment above re mandatory or not. -- RHaworth (Talk | contribs) 08:14, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

So I think I successfully linked the article to at least two other articles: Entomology and the law and Forensic entomology and society. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Txshinerblonde (talk • contribs)

• Why is it so difficult for you to get the concept of links being directional? I am not interested in outgoing links, which you have provided reasonably well. I have been asking repeatedly for incoming links. Quatrevingtsix has created a link from Entomology and the law to this article. Now go and create some more. -- RHaworth (Talk | contribs) 06:09, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for all your constructive advice RHaworth. I think I did a successful link in the article Forensic entomology and society to our article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Runwild2006 (talk • contribs) 15:57, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

This article is well written and organized. Maybe if you add a few more links the orphaned banner will go away.Hurricane979 (talk) 16:39, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

The banner is a manually added tag, not automated. I just removed it. --165.21.154.92 (talk) 06:09, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

Review article

Just so you know, Dr. Jeff Wells from West Virginia University recently published a review article on this very subject. It was published in the Annual Review of Entomology 2008.ABrundage, Texas A&M University (talk) 16:48, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

Hey guys the article is very interesting because of how they incorporate DNA with entomology. Under the gel electrophoresis, yall can link it (Im sure there is an existing page) or maybe even get a picture of what it looks like. Also maybe find a link on explaining the base pairing of the nitrogenous bases Mikearq (talk) 17:50, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Very informative article! You might consider moving the Blood Meal Extraction section to before the Heamatophagus insects of forensic importance section. It would make a little bit more sense hearing about what the blood and DNA are used for and what insects are involved before you begin explaining how to extract the blood and DNA. Other than that, fantastic article! --Moosenik (talk) 20:59, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

Nit picking

You lot are of course professional nit pickers but I seem to be doing it on an amateur basis. Would you please point me to the bit of the Manual of Style that says that "blood meal extraction" must have capital letters on meal and extraction? Is it somebody's name? Is it a well established trade name? -- RHaworth (Talk | contribs) 06:09, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

There is no such bit. Per the MOS, only the first letter of the first word, letters in acronyms, and the first letter of proper nouns are capitalized in article titles and section headings; all other letters are in lower case. I would recommend that you lower the volume on the sarcasm, though: it's not especially conducive to group work. – ClockworkSoul 04:18, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

Given the number of times that I have to uncapitalise the above phrase and also to do this edit, I think my sarcasm is justified. Anyway thank you for answering at last. Please make sure that the stored product people also know this rule. -- RHaworth (Talk | contribs) 04:35, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

I think this article covers a lot of interesting information. Just a couple of little things: Under blood meal extraction, maybe in "once extracted and isolated, the DNA samples goes through a polymerase chain reaction(PCR), is amplified and identified." you should add a space after 'polymerase chain reaction' and reword, since you should probably add a conjunction like 'and' before 'is amplified and identified.' Also, 'DNA samples' is plural, so 'goes through' and 'is' should technically be 'go through' and 'are.' Hope that makes sense.

Another small edit, you have '95oC' instead of the degree symbol.

Also, for Dr. Wells' case study, you may want to change formatting so it is clear which part is actually contained in his study - especially since his study uses 'I' frequently.

Another thing, 'it' is used frequently in the article - just try to define 'it' or reword so you can avoid using the word 'it.' Thanks a lot and good luck! Gdespejo (talk) 03:38, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Category

You could categorize your article with forensic entomology, entomology or both. You could also link it to other articles by placing a See Also heading that allows you to link to other pages.--Angelar.steinhauer (talk) 15:44, 28 March 2008 (UTC)