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== Pot brownies ==
I LOVE BROWNIES!
The page said:

: may contain nuts, chips (chocolate, butterscotch, peanut butter, etc.), or cannabis.

I removed "or cannabis", because this is an atypical ingredient. There is already a whole page about pot brownies, which this page references; I think that that is sufficient coverage of pot brownies.

-- [[User:Dominus|Dominus]] 17:12, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

== There should be some mention of cannabis ==

I restored the "see also" section. I agree that pot is an atypical ingredient, but the page should contain a link to the [[Alice B. Toklas brownie]] article.

Alcohol ''can'' be an ingredient in almost anything, but if you are at a party and wish to avoid inadvertently consuming alcohol, you ''ask'' about the ''punch.'' Similarly, cannabis ''can'' be an ingredient in almost anything, but if you are at a party and you wish to avoid consuming cannabis, you ''ask'' about the ''brownies.'' [[User:Dpbsmith|Dpbsmith]] [[User_talk:dpbsmith|(talk)]] 00:35, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

Brownies seem to be a top pick for cannabis. I believe it is worth mentioning, or at least more debate. <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/71.107.230.145|71.107.230.145]] ([[User talk:71.107.230.145|talk]]) 17:52, 14 March 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

== The brownie is definitely not a cookie and I have doubts over whether it is a cake ==

I accept promethius' compromise of cake-like, since it is very similar to a cake, but a cookie is a biscuit which requires double baking and as such it definitely is not a cookie since it isn't double baked. It is a shame that wikipedia does not have an article on bked goods classifications since I believe that this is a slice and many people who I have spoken with about this agree.
*I'm unsure of what you mean by 'double-baked'. When I make cookies, I only bake them once. ~ [[User:PHDrillSergeant|<font color="green">PH</font>]][[User_talk:PHDrillSergeant|<font color="blue">DrillSergeant</font>]]...[[User:PHDrillSergeant/Userboxes/list|<font color="maroon">§</font>]] 21:10, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

::I've been trying to find a discription of a brownie. It seems that a brownie is a cake. One site said that using more eggs gives it a fluffier texture, less gives a denser, chewier product. [http://www.dummies.com/WileyCDA/DummiesArticle/id-1460.html this site] says they are a cross between cake and cookie. [[User:PrometheusX303|PrometheusX303]] 21:28, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
:::I would assume, since brownies form-fit to the pan they are in (instead of being in clumps) and are cut like a cake, that a borwnie would be considered a very dense cake. Like a German Cake. ~ [[User:PHDrillSergeant|<font color="green">PH</font>]][[User_talk:PHDrillSergeant|<font color="blue">DrillSergeant</font>]]...[[User:PHDrillSergeant/Userboxes/list|<font color="maroon">§</font>]] 00:09, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
:: I have found the main distinction between a cake and biscuit: "Yes, yes, we are only to well aware of the theory that biscuits take up moisture when the go stale becoming limp conversely a cake looses it becoming hard, thus proving the Jaffa Cake to be a cake as its bottom is made of sponge cake as we already know. This is all well and good but has several noticeable exceptions such as the Fig roll and so cannot be relied upon. Better just to say its a cake." - http://www.nicecupofteaandasitdown.com/jaffajudgement/ And I am sure that as a brownie gets stale it loses moisture and as such is not a biscuit (this property is often inherited from double baking). I am sure you have to agree that a cookie is closer to a biscuit than a cake. Therefore I conclude that the chocolate brownie is not a cookie. Since I prefer the definition slice, but agree this is perhaps ambiguous, then I recommend the compromise solution cake-slice.
:::I'm pretty sure it was agreed that it was a cake. But I don't know what you mean by "double-baking". When I make brownies, I bake them once. When I make cookies, I bake them once. When I make a cake, I bake it once. I don't get your reference. ~ [[User:PHDrillSergeant|<font color="green">PH</font>]][[User_talk:PHDrillSergeant|<font color="blue">DrillSergeant</font>]]...[[User:PHDrillSergeant/Userboxes/list|<font color="maroon">§</font>]] 22:18, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
::::I am accepting cake as a compromise, I prefer slice as a definiton. However my point here is that the brownie is definitely not a cookie. I am sorry to have confused [[User:PHDrillSergeant|<font color="green">PH</font>]][[User_talk:PHDrillSergeant|<font color="blue">DrillSergeant</font>]]...[[User:PHDrillSergeant/Userboxes/list|<font color="maroon">§</font>]] with my double baking comments, he strike me as the kind of guy who likes to get his food from the raw ingredients to edible as quickly as possible.
:::::No, I just like cooking, and I've never heard of double-baking brownies. Pineapple upside-down cake, maybe, but not brownies. ~ [[User:PHDrillSergeant|<font color="green">PH</font>]][[User_talk:PHDrillSergeant|<font color="blue">DrillSergeant</font>]]...[[Special:Contributions/PHDrillSergeant|<font color="maroon">§</font>]] 20:09, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
::::I'll accept that. As long as people realize that brownies are usually denser than regular cake, which makes them acceptable hand food, as opposed to light fluffy cakes which, also sliced, are usually eaten with a fork. BTW, what IS double-baking? A.B. might have mentioned it once, but I can't remember. [[User:PrometheusX303|<span style="color:green;"><strong>Prome</strong></span>]][[Special:Contributions/PrometheusX303|<span style="color:blue;"><strong>theus</strong></span>]][[User_talk:PrometheusX303|<span style="color:red;"><sup>-X303-</sup></span>]] 17:10, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
:::The whole point is that brownies are '''not''' baked twice, which is why [[User:PHDrillSergeant|<font color="green">PH</font>]] has not heard of double baking brownies. It is biscuits that are double baked and my point is that the brownie is '''not''' a biscuit and I belive coockie to be in the biscuit genus.

LOL an argument about brownies, hilarious, im sorry. 23:42, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

I've seen it stated (can't recall where) that the Brownie was created by someone who liked the taste of a fallen cake (usually caused by too high a proportion of sugar to flour) and tried to recreate it in a more manageable form.[[User:Saxophobia|Saxophobia]] 01:46, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

I think it depends on the brownie. Some are more like cake, and some are fudgier and more like a bar. I personally like the fudgier ones. I agree that a brownie is totally not in the cookie category. [[User:GingerGin|GingerGin]] 05:28, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

I guess they're more cake than anything else, but I can't stand it when people make dry, cakey stuff and call it 'brownies'. Proper ones have gotta be nice and soft, y'see, not just like some kind of sponge cake. But yeah i'll go with cake. lol.
[[User:Mz.Kiedis|Mz.Kiedis]] 16:18, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

Just so you all know, the article on [[cookie]] gives brownies as an example of a bar cookie. --[[User:Jitterro|Jitterro]] ([[User talk:Jitterro|talk]]) 08:50, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

==World Columbian Expo story==
That story sounds apocryphal to me. To many famous names and places without citing a source. At any rate it contradicts the Sears Roebuck story earlier in the article. Fishal 04:57, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

== citations ==

I added the citation to the Sears Roebuck comment and added "Folklore has is..." with a reference the reference is .<ref>[http://www.kitchenproject.com/history/Brownies/index.htm]</ref> but it didn't seem to work properly. Please help if I did something wrong. <small>—The preceding [[Wikipedia:Sign your posts on talk pages|unsigned]] comment was added by [[User:GingerGin|GingerGin]] ([[User talk:GingerGin|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/GingerGin|contribs]]) 18:23, 1 February 2007 (UTC).</small><!-- HagermanBot Auto-Unsigned -->

==best brownie in the world==
Let's take a poll! I know this sounds weird, but some of the best brownies I've ever had are just from the bakery section of the grocery store. For anyone in Texas, HEB's bakery section has the best brownies I've tasted for only 79cents each! [[User:GingerGin|GingerGin]] 05:30, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

== Katie Meredith? ==

While I'm certainly no expert in brownies, I take exception to this sentence in the article. I'm sure that Katie makes good brownies, but it's completely unquantifiable if hers are the best ever.

== White choc Brownies ==
Sorry it's not really about the actual article, but i thought i'd ask, anyone actually made white chocolate brownies? I've tried using a Nigella recipe but they really didn't work... It may have been the fact there was quite a lot of egg, but they were really gooey even after cooking them for a lot longer, and they'd started to go cakey at the sides, but remaining pretty much liquid in the middle.
Does anyone have/know of any good recipes? I'd really like to make these properly, so thought i might just ask you guys... [[User:Mz.Kiedis|Mz.Kiedis]] 16:24, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

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