Talk:Three Days Grace

Genre

I think it's about time we got this sorted. It's a total shambles, every second edit is someone undo'ing an idiot that posts they're emo or nu metal or something else they've pulled from heaven knows where. Currently it stands unreferenced as Alternative metal, Post-grunge, Hard rock. If someone could find a reliable source for this it would be nice. Also the source in the first heading has no reference to the genre, so why is that even there? I will place a Please do not edit tag in the genre, hopefully keeps this under control. kiac (talk) 11:03, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

Billboard pop 100??

Should the positions of the songs on the pop 100 be shown since Pain and Animal I have Become are both on it...??? According to Billboard.com Pain is at #47 and Animal I have Become #60.Cjgone2 04:40, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

I Hate (Everything About You)???

Is really "I Hate (Everything About You)"? I don't think that this is written like this on the back of the cd...

The CD just says "I Hate Everything About You", you're right. Although, the video and radio singles for the song [MuchMusic, Yahoo!Music, MTV, radio] have it "(I Hate) Everthing About You" -- I haven't seen "I Hate (Everything About You)" used formally though. --Keati 13:36, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

Picture?

Can someone get a picture up? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shadow Blood (talk • contribs) 21:58, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

was up

Why is the picture up for speedy deletion? metalhead 19:47, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

Is Three Days Grace really "punk"?

I'd say they are closer to alternative metal, so I'll edit the article to reflect this. Dave the Red 02:46, Apr 5, 2005 (UTC)

damn u ppl 3 dayz grace isnt punk!!! dont be stupid itz not a question..... THEIR ALTERNITVE METAL!!!!! Yeah, that's what I was thinking. Trevilor365

no there not punk there freaken markited as alternive metal. but its rock all the same. (monkeypunch) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.182.112.254 (talk) 18:49, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

Aren't they marketed as punk? They sound alternative/pop rock to me, calling them alt. metal is a stretch. --Switch 03:49, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

I personally classify them as post grunge. Bshbass 21:35, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

Most definitely not punk. Alternative Metal/Post Grunge is as near to correct as you can get. --Shaun77 20:20, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

thats right hell no there not punk. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.182.112.254 (talk) 18:49, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

i call them alt-metal and post-grunge. hard rock can easily fit between those 2 genres. i use animal i have become as proof of them becoming hard rock/alt-metal since it showed a side of them never seen before. i know what alt metal is when i hear it,, since i'm a really big fan of other alt metal bands like tool and chevelle and soad etc. don't call them punk. there's more to punk than anguish. besides, punk riffs aren't like that. their riffs resemble metal/hard rock riffs more than punk guitar riffs. Itachi1452 23:17, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

to me they are alternative rock and hard rock. metal has to have some screeaming and the lead singer does not scream! 74.105.201.24 00:05, 31 August 2007 (UTC) there alternitave metal/ post grunge (damn get it through ur heads) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ajohnstone111 (talk • contribs) 20:55, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

There is no such thing as alternative metal. Three Days Grace is closest to post-grunge and just regular rock. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.99.124.246 (talk) 05:12, 19 February 2007 (UTC) there hard rock but yeah there is such thing as alternative metal same thing as alternative rock but more harder

I think they're rock/punk/alternative.

There is a such thing as alternative metal. Look it up. Feral Mind (talk) 23:06, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

POV/Vandalism?

This article is written with a negative slant against the band, calling them "mediocre" as well as accusing them of copying song instrumentation ("I hate everything about you" vs "Home") — Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.53.218.27 (talk) 04:51, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

i think that the are punk all the way — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.167.244.121 (talk) 00:44, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

y WOULD ANYBODY DESCRIBE IT AS PUNK THATS LIKE CALLING AN EMO KID A METAL HEAD - ShEgERm — Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.108.87.254 (talk) 22:07, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

Hey hell no there not punk — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ajohnstone111 (talk • contribs) 20:54, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

They are definately post grunge, not punk, or emo, post grunge — Preceding unsigned comment added by Joshivack (talk • contribs) 00:50, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

This is an information page, not an opinion page. The labels (EMO Queers) and (AKA Penis Suckingville) should be removed imediately. Some people have no respect for accuracy of information. Likely the same people who form opinions based on what their friends think and say. But hey, that's my opinion. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.220.56.82 (talk) 19:48, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Heh, and your opinion happens to be right this time. WELL DONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!72.81.226.247 (talk) 02:30, 14 February 2008 (UTC)ForTheWin

??

i just have a question. Since when did Tree Days Grace become a 4-man band?? cuz when they realeased thier self-titled album, Three days Grace, werent they just a 3 man band? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lemonxsmoothie (talk • contribs) 01:28, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

That sounds right, and it's what the page for the lead singer says, though it doesn't give any details on the subject. It just mentions they added a fourth member between the two. But there's no sourcing for any of this, which is a problem. --Eternal Trance 19:02, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

Indeed, the band has a fourth member, Barry Stock. They added him sometime after the release of their debut album. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.49.221.62 (talk) 23:52, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

He was in a few of their videos from their first album; "Home" being one. He certainly adds much to the band's quality, enabling them to have more than one guitar riff playing at a time (such as in "Riot"). He also has a solo in the song "It's All Over," something for which they do not do often. --Shaun77 20:19, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

The band does have four members, they added barry stock shortly after the release of their debut album. He was recruited to take over lead guitar on tour, to make it easier for lead singer Adam Gontier. Barry Stock was in the UK version of Three Days Grace's self-titled debut, and is included in One-X. Joshivack 15:41, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

emo?

seriously, three days grace is not an emo band. i know that songs like "i hate everything about you" sounds emo, but in reality, aren't. and, the person who edited the page doesn't know too much about editing, since your supposed to put an emo music|emo instead of just emo in the brackets. but still, three days has never been an emo band. for a band to be emo, they must also have some punk rock qualities or influences, but like what shEgERm said, calling three days punk is like calling an emo kid a metalhead. but also, there are metalheads who listen to three days grace, because their music is too hard to be emo. there's a big difference between hardcore rock and hard rock. end of discussion, period. Itachi1452 23:14, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

I have to agree with your comment. Three Days Grace is no where close to emo. ~Goldenfox17 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Goldenfox17 (talk • contribs) 17:12, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

what the hell is an emo? - somebody with incredibly poor choice in music, generally suicidal, and only grows their bangs, while cutting the rest incredibly short. They also tend to be (female dog)s.okay 1st of all i'm emo quit hatin on me [female dog] and three days grace is my favorite band so i'm almost positive that they are emo !!!if they arent oh well i still love themjared557 (talk) 19:48, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

I just want this band (and several others) off my radio stations! Come on, you could play somebody with a little more talent. Look at their guitar tabs - most of it is the same 4-5 notes over and over again, and not the cool punk-rock style, either. The emo style.

ok...shut up, you may not like this kind of music but they're totally KA rockerwolf

UNF****ING BELIEVABLE. Here's a good idea, all of you...STFU, unless you have somthing intelligent to say that is right. They are not punk and since emo is another subgenre of punk, they are not emo. Second, since alt. metal and nu metal lyrics are similar to emo lyrics (or visa versa) it doesn't surprise me that you can't tell the difference. However The playing stlye is different overall (they also don't shout things like "cut my wrists and black my eyes...", see Hawthorne Heights). Saying that Three Days Grace is emo is like saying that Breaking Benjamin is emo, just as stupid and wrong too. Lyrical similarties doesn't translate to auto emo. Most bands, even almost all metal bands, share the "life is like eating a bowl of shit" philosophy that the emos have, however they, unlike emos, convey that you shouldn't lose hope (Riot, Until The End). As for the people trying to figure out what emo is and then typing their false beliefs, STFU!72.81.226.247 (talk) 00:05, 1 February 2008 (UTC)ForTheWin

thank you whoever you are i agree with you i'm emo and i appreciate you tellin them to stfu <333 emo is to complicated for them to understandjared557 (talk) 19:51, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

You are welcome. BTW, me name's ForTheWin.72.81.226.247 (talk) 02:07, 14 February 2008 (UTC)ForTheWin

Three Days Grace is not emo! Not now, not ever. Just because you're an emo and you love Three Days Grace it doesn't make them emo. And emo is easy for us to understand. What would be the difficult part? You guys are all the same. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.226.183.54 (talk) 18:21, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

You have no idea what your talking about and you faild to read the posts. No one said their emo cept Jared557 and even then he said he is almost sure their emo because he likes their music, which means nothing to their music style. I'm emo and I know they are not emo, even though I like their music. They are Alt. Metal, plain and simple. Second, no you don't understand emo music or culture, as a matter of fact very few outside the emo community truly understand what emo is and what it's about. You probably don't even know what emo stands for nor its history. Third, sign your f***ing posts.13Tawaazun14 (talk) 02:43, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

Emo means emotional. I know what genre they are, thanks. I was stating that they're not emo. I'm pretty sure I DO understand 'emo' culture and music. I actually hardly give a shit though because I think it's stupid. And by the way, I'm not gonna sign my f***ing posts just to please you, you emotional piece-of-work.

I should delete your bullshit...but I won't. You oh so blatanly obviosly don't understand culture or music. You probably think it's about suicide like most idiots out there. Emo means Emotional Hardcore Punk and/or Emotional Hardcore Punk Rock (depends on wheather you're talking about culture or music) and Emotive can be used as another name for Emotional, so again you're wrong. Oh, and signing your posts is polite wheather it's with someone you agree with or not. I suggest you stay away from wikipedia.13Tawaazun14 (talk) 00:05, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

Three Days Grace is not emo. Some people may think that some of their songs have an "emo" feeling, but most of their songs just deal with things that everyone feels. They are a Hard Rock,Alternative, and Post Grunge band. They are not punk rock, so therefore they are not emo since emo is just a subgenre of punk. —Preceding unsigned comment added by NojSolag (talk • contribs) 22:47, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, we went through that.71.179.227.101 (talk) 23:29, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

Hit Song Choice

Am I the first to notice 3DG uses the same order of songs as hits? In their first album it was tracks (in order) 3, 2, 4. Again in 1-X its 3, 2, 4. Personally this irritates me. I LOVE 3DG, but i hate when the three songs you hear on the radio all the time are right next to each other on the CD. Plus, i doubt they'll realese Riot now, which is a pity. That song would be a HUGE song of 2007 if they realse it.LuckyNumberSeven 22:57, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

Actually, I believe that they will release Riot, and possibly another song. They are releasing singles a lot quicker on this cd than they did on their first cd. And i noticed the single choices in like september with some "inside information" I think that Riot will be released, and be a huge song...mainly because i have some "inside information" that their next cd will not come out until 2009. And whoever did Three Days Grace's Wikipedia page is an idiot, the single never too late was not released yet, and neither was the video. The Video was leaked, and is scheduled to come out sometime in march of 2007. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Joshivack (talk • contribs) 00:47, 5 March 2007 (UTC) Joshivack 20:31, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

FUCK NO U RETARDS THREE DAYS GRACE ISN'T EMO END OF STORY, WANT EMO???? LISTEN 2 FALLOUT BOY U FAGS — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.41.188.123 (talk) 21:54, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

Fall Out Boy ain't emo either!!!!! JustN5:12 03:22, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

The last single off of One x will be never too late.

Riot has been released in Canada.--216.168.112.187 20:57, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

Neither Three Days Grace nor Fall Out Boy is emo and any one who says otherwise doesn't know wtf they are on about72.81.226.247 (talk) 00:12, 1 February 2008 (UTC)ForTheWin

Three Days Grace nor FOB's is emo. If you want emo, listen to Aiden. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.226.175.59 (talk) 21:29, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

3rd Album

Its been two years since their last LP now... any plans on a third album? Just wondering... check one of the following....

• Call it Quits
• Not Planning On Next LP
• Planning On Next LP
• Keeping Things Secretive
• Not Focusing On Upcoming Projects
• Something Bigger In Store
• Not Ready
• Rumoured

Nothing Has Been Heard About It —The preceding unsigned comment was added by NJ Rock (talk • contribs) 04:59, 10 March 2007 (UTC).

Actually its been 9 months since last album so if theres no news on a enw album a year from now might be something to check into

Drumsnick

I've heard that they're working on a third currently at Threedaysgrace.com the forums and some other places. Rockerwolf

2009?? where do you get that from? sure they took 3 years to make a 2nd album, but doesn't mean they'll take that long to make a 3rd. adam was in rehab and went through some stuff and just took an extra long break after touring forever for their debut cd. i think that it'll be much sooner when a 3rd album comes out (2 years maybe). also i have heard snippets of songs that didn't make it on their 2nd cd (so they definitely have more written). Also, whats up with the person who put "they will headline a tour for the rest of their musical careers"? what's that supposed to mean? they plan on calling it quits after their done touring? uh.. yeah right -n8thegr8

omg three days grace is very emo gothicish but really hard metal i have to edmit but they are very depressing to and thats why i like them ~Emo Singer~

To some emo singer - just because you like Three Days Grace, it doesn't make them emo. It just makes you some emo traitor kid. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.226.175.59 (talk) 23:21, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

Yea, it will be 2008 it was confirmed, they allready have 5 songs done for the next album and also, messenger didnt make one x so it'll probably be on the next album. They are taking he summer and fall of 2007 off from touring, Neil has a baby on the way, and then they will go in the studios. I'd look to see it in stores for sprin-summer of 2008. oh and they are not emo gothic.Joshivack 17:17, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

They are alt. metal and there is no such thing as emo gothic, so, emo singer, you sir...are retarded plain and simple. And your spelling confirms it.72.81.226.247 (talk) 01:04, 1 February 2008 (UTC)ForTheWin

Third Album

what 5 songs do three days grace already have on their third album???

They didnt say yet.Joshivack 17:34, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

Can someone tell me what non-album tracks three days grace have??

The ones i kno are messenger, like this, my own life, better life, running away was only sold @ target, are you ready was only sold internationally,and a song called too late was a demo for never too late. thats all i kno of. Joshivack 23:25, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

Messenger isn't called Messenger and the band did not record a track for it, and Better Life is a 3 Doors Down song.

Three Days Grace on iTunes

Does anyone know why on iTunes they class the songs from three days grace's debut album as pop?

Ugh, iTunes f*** up with classifing everything.72.81.226.247 (talk) 00:08, 1 February 2008 (UTC)ForTheWin

Discography Table

Someone needs to fix it up i.e. removing the "TBA" album information and cover...I got rid of the next album info, but the one x table is still messed up, anyone know how to fix this?

Joshivack 02:48, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

why???

Why dont Neil and brad and berry have a page???

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"Messenger"

Along with a few other songs that didn't make One-X, "Messenger" seems to be the one most widely discussed. I'm not sure why it's listed, whereas the other songs aren't. Is it really worth listing a song that wasn't recorded? Also, it is not called "Messenger"; that was simply a title that stuck so those who had heard it live could reference it. There were a couple names that it had for awhile, since no one was quite sure what it was called, and in the end we just stuck with Messenger. In all reality, the song name was closer-sounding to "Mess Of Me" than anything. In any case, I was wondering what the general conensus was on removing this from the Wikipage. It's somewhat irrelevant as it was never recorded, and "Messenger" isn't even what the song was titled. --Keati 14:07, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

What other songs didn't make One-X?

I don't know the song names, but on Three Days Grace's old website, they had short videos of them recording One-X in studio, and there were a couple songs in those short videos that didn't make it on to One-X. (and for what its worth, 'Messenger/Mess Of Me' wasn't one of the songs being recorded in the short videos) --Keati 19:32, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

"Better Life"

I am pretty sure that the song "better life" is by 3 doors down not three days grace

You are correct. 3 Doors Down's "Better Life" is incorrectly attributed to Three Days Grace on P2P networks (Limewire and the likes). They've never had a song called Better Life. --Keati 19:28, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

Trivia

Unsourced, removed from main article. Please find an appropriate source and integrate into the main article if you wish to reinclude, thanks Deiz talk 08:40, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

Trivia

• Barry Stock joined the band a few months after the original pressing of their first album. As the band still had to shoot videos for their following singles off the album, all the songs were re-mixed with Barry doing guitar and the album was re-released. The booklet remained the same, crediting the original three.
• The single order for both albums has gone track three (I Hate Everything About You/Animal I Have Become), track two (Just Like You/Pain), and then track four (Home/Never Too Late).
• Additionally, each album has 12 tracks with a bonus track being released on Target editions.
• All the band members are married, and two of them have children. Brad has a son named James, and Neil has a daughter named Violet, born July 29th, 2007.

unreleased songs

ok why are burn and born like this under unreleased songs from three days grace, and animal i have become and never too late under unreleased songs from one-x?

I think we need a bottom box for this band..

Just a suggestion. Maplejet 17:18, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

What the Hell?

Whoever keeps sticking "emo", "punk rock", or "punk metal" (no such thing) on their genre list, needs to stop. They're no where close to those genres. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Goldenfox17 (talk • contribs) 00:42, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

EMO??????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

NEVER! this band is Post grunge and alterntive rock , but ¿Punk or emo???? NEVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

IGNORANTS the wikipedia —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.248.44.241 (talk) 05:17, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

My oh my, did we not go through this already. EMO IS A SUBGENRE OF PUNK (hardcore to be specific) AND THREE DAYS GRACE IS NOT PUNK, THEREFORE THEY CAN'T BE EMO. They are Alternative Metal.72.81.226.247 (talk) 21:14, 17 February 2008 (UTC)ForTheWin

Not alternative metal. Alternative rock, perhaps? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.226.183.54 (talk) 18:24, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

Alt. Metal. Not emo nor Alt. Rock.13Tawaazun14 (talk) 02:44, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

Oh and sign your posts people.13Tawaazun14 (talk) 02:46, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

I wouldn't say their emo, but they are alt. metal and sorta alt. rock somewhere in there.

• Lover of the sand (talk) 22:58, 24 March 2008 (UTC)*

Not emo. I would agree with alternative rock. Actually, rock works to. Metal? :S Nope. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.226.175.59 (talk) 23:17, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

Possible Alt. Rock influences, but still Alt. Metal. And you still havn't learned to sign your posts, so I'll tell you how... after typing a message type four tildes (~).13Tawaazun14 (talk) 00:57, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the inormation. I know how to sign posts already though.. I just choose not to so that I piss people like you off. =) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.226.183.1 (talk) 17:34, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

Name

What is the meaning of their name? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.119.77.211 (talk) 23:54, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

It refers to the business term grace period. 64.53.58.54 (talk) 17:21, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

???Three Days Grace Info???

hey Im not logged in right now but my username is PrinceOfAllSaiyans , but anyway why isnt their hardly any thing at all about the first three days grace almum, tiltled Three Days Grace. 64.53.58.54 (talk) 17:22, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

Home Town?

Isn't the home town of the band Norwood, not Toronto? Mikecrowder (talk) 02:21, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

#1 Singles???

Don't get me wrong, Three Days Grace is an awesome band. But when I was on their wikipedia page last time, they had maybe one or two singles which hit #1 on the charts. I think someone has changed every single to #1 —Preceding unsigned comment added by NojSolag (talk • contribs) 22:54, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

#1 Singles???

Why the discussion about chart history? Number one's are: Never Too Late (Hot Mainstream Rock), Pain (Hot Modern Rock/Hot Mainstream Rock), Just Like You (Mainstream Rock/Modern Rock), and Animal I Have Become (Mainstream Rock/Modern Rock). Why not just click this link and update the history using accurate info? It's not secretive. http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/retrieve_chart_history.do?model.vnuArtistId=517274&model.vnuAlbumId=1086027 —Preceding unsigned comment added by JustSteve (talk • contribs) 06:31, 15 May 2008 (UTC)