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May 19

monopolizing the editing of a page

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The user who left this question did not sign it. Please sign all talk page messages with a signature (~~~~)

Is there any mechanism to stop the repeated introduction of speculative and irreverent material by a single contributor, despite overwhelming disagreement and objection from readers in the discussion of the page? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Vcharvieux (talk • contribs) 01:23, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Can you give an example of your topic? Also, can you clarify your question? Thank you.--RyRy5 (talk) 01:28, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Beyond attempting to talk to the user via his/her talk page, and directing them to the discussion page for the particular article to get input from other editors, you'll have to start giving them small warnings. If the question is in regards to original research or violations of WP:NPOV and the reliability of sources, you may wish to visit the WP:NPOVN, WP:ORN and WP:RS/N noticeboards or try a request for comment. Wisdom89 _{(T / ^C)} 01:33, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

If you think that your problem needs administrator attention, you should ask at the WP:AN/I. But make sure it is serious.--RyRy5 (talk) 01:38, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

I'm familiar with this user's specific problem; he would prefer that the article on Henri Nouwen, the great Christian writer, did not discuss the writer's homosexuality, but every time he blanks the paragraph on the subject, he gets reverted, and so is frustrated. I've tried explaining on his talk page. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 15:27, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Searching for pages sharing several categories

G'day, I'm trying to find out how I can search for pages that fill more than one category - i.e., is there a way to search for Category:'1999 Films' and Category:'Action Films' which would result in a list of all Action Films released in 1999? 82.15.254.221 (talk) 09:29, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

You can use the search bar, with the search term 'incategory:"1999 films" incategory:"Action films"', but that will only search the two categories named, and not their subcats such as Category:1990s action films. An alternative capable of scanning subcategories is WP:CATSCAN, though this only works for intersecting two categories, not more. CATSCAN also requires that you get the category names exactly right (for instance, the f is lowercase in the names of the two categories you mentioned). Algebraist 09:42, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Checkuser

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1. How do you request to be a Checkuser?

2. Is there a particular age you need to be before you can bceome a bureaucrat or Checkuser? I know that you can become an administrator at any age (I've heard of 12-year old admins), but what about a bureaucrat/Checkuser? Interactive Fiction Expert/Talk to me 09:38, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Per WP:CheckUser, CheckUser rights are granted (very rarely) by the ArbCom. CheckUsers must be at least 18, of legal age, and provide personal identification to the Foundation. Algebraist 09:45, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

There does not appear to be a formal age limit for Bureaucrat status. Algebraist 09:51, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

There is no formal age for admins either. Wikipedia really cares more about the experience you have on wikipedia, not your age.--RyRy5 (talk) 00:31, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Frowned upon words

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IS there a list of words that wikipedia dislikes being used in edits or edit summaries such as a bot might hunt down? MilkFloat 10:25, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

I know that the Anti-Vandal Tool uses a list of words to flag possible vandalism. ClueBot also works this way when removing profanity. Xenon54 10:40, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Regarding those antivandals tools, you can see a list of words one of those tools hunts for at User:Lupin/badwords.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 12:16, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

The prior answers are with regards to vandalism keywords -- is this what you are looking for? For example, there are other words which might trigger WP:PEA. Tiggerjay (talk) 15:41, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

There's also WP:WEASEL. Jaakobou^{Chalk Talk} 16:57, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Weasel words relates to article content, not edit summaries. bibliomaniac15 04:39, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Redirecting an image?

While recent changes patrolling, I came across Image:Eoraptor sketch5.png, newly created as a redirect to Image:Eopraptor sketch5.png. Is it possible/advisable to redirect image links? Nyttend (talk) 12:14, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

The key question seems to be whether redirects work for displaying images (like template transclusions). They don't: . Given this, I'm not sure what use an image redirect could be; it's not like you're going to be looking for Image:Eopraptor sketch5.png and mistype one letter. Algebraist 12:25, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

May I speedy delete it then, as a rather implausible redirect? Nyttend (talk) 16:27, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

How do you move one page to its redirect page?

Thanks. Yohan euan o4 (talk) 13:17, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Unless I'm mixing up the process, you'd need an administrator to delete the redirect page, and then move the page to the previous location of the redirect. -- Natalya 13:31, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

If the redirect has only one revision and points to the article you want to move then you can move the article over the redirect. Otherwise you should use {{db-move}} or WP:RM to get an admin involved. What you should not do is cut and paste the article to the new location. See Help:Moving a page for more info. -- zzuuzz ^(talk) 13:53, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

creating a new article

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How do you create a new article? I've looked on the page but it keeps being vandalised and I can't get into it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hello963 (talk • contribs) 14:53, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Are you referring to the page Wikipedia:Your first article? It appears that all the vandalism has been cleaned up, so hopefully it will be of more help to you now. If you have further questions, though, feel free to ask! -- Natalya 15:08, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Are you referring to Trodmore Racecourse? As it appears you have properly created the page. Tiggerjay (talk) 15:39, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Please see Your first article.

1. Make sure the subject is notable enough to have their own article.
2. Find references
3. Make sure no article on the subject exists under a different title by typing the subject into the search box to the left (←) and clicking 'Search'
4. Type the page name in the search box to the left (←) and click 'Go'
5. Click 'Create this page'
6. Create the article, including all your references, making sure you adhere to the Manual of Style and our article layout guidelines
7. Be aware that Wikipedia deletes thousands of new articles for failing to adhere to our policies and guidelines. New articles by new users are at extra risk of deletion, due to new users' unfamiliarity with our rules. Consider gaining experience by editing existing articles before attempting to create new ones....... Dendodge .. Talk^Help 17:23, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Title for My Organization's Wiki Page

Someone created a Wiki page for our organization, Recovery International, Inc., but the page title only reads Recovery, Inc. It should read Recovery International. I tried to make this change in the edit view but could not. Can someone on the Wiki staff resolve this issue for me?

Also, I am interested in learning whom created this Wiki page in the first place. It looks like it was usernam Scarpy according to the history, but the page doesn't indicate whether that person was the original author.

Thank you for your attention to these matters. Please let me know when the page title has been resolved.

Kind regards,

Chris

Chris Jorgensen Director of External Relations Recovery International, Inc. 802 N. Dearborn St. Chicago, IL 60610 (p) <blanked> www.recovery-inc.org —Preceding unsigned comment added by Chrisman926 (talk • contribs) 14:58, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

The web site listed above and in the article is titled “Recovery, Inc.” Do you have a source that shows the name you specify? —Travis^talk 15:04, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Upon reviewing the website itself, it shows "Recovery Inc" only on the logo and copyright section on the bottom - so this would indicate that this is the official way -- however if you do have something to document otherwise (such as a specific link on the website, etc) then we can change it. Or better yet, show you how to. Tiggerjay (talk) 15:37, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

If you first click "history" and then "earliest" at Recovery, Inc. then you can see that the first version [1] was created by Shoaler in June 2005. Scarpy has the largest number of edits but I have not examined whether it also means contributing the most of the current content. PrimeHunter (talk) 16:47, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Hi. In the future, if you wish to rename a page that needs renaming and will not violate consensus (which is often discussed upon on the associated talkpage), click on the "move" tab on the top-right. However, your account currently needs to be at least 4 days old to do this. Hope this helps. Thanks. ~AH1^(TCU) 23:14, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

blue dotted line in my article

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On my article on the "social circus" there is a blue-dotted line surrounding the information on the "Circle"– also the information extends far horizontally. How do I fix this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lotus212 (talk • contribs) 15:08, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

That happens when you have extra spaces before the text in a paragraph. I removed the spaces, and it looks normal now! -- Natalya 15:10, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

NPOV

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The articles (a) "Abraham Shemtov", (b) "Yehuda Krinsky" and (c) "Chabad-Lubavitch related controversies", might be well described as "point of view", and especially so as regards the first two articles.

For example, the articles omit the fact that in the dispute over the Weinstock Estate, as well as in other matters, the two persons acted in contempt of the local Rabbinic Court, and that one had previously been dismissed for a time from his position.

Rather than descend into an unpleasant debate on these matters, it might be better to simply remove the articles, or at least remove the first two, and get some independent fact checking on the third.

Thank you for your attention —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.196.121.71 (talk) 15:57, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

When editors feel there is a breach of WP:NPOV on certain articles, the usual process is to bring it up on the talk page of the article, state why you feel there is a POV concern, determine if anyone else agree with you. If so, you may place a template tag at the top of the page to alert readers and editors that there is an ongoing discussion taking place. We do not simply delete articles for such things, we improve them. Cheers! Wisdom89 _{(T / ^C)} 16:54, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Use of the word "location"

I've looked all over the Special Pages (including checking the Manual of Style) and can't find the answer to this question. In the sentence "Somewheresville is a village located 3 miles east of Somewhereelse" or the sentence "The Post office is located near the village church" is the word located required or not, and does anyone know where the preference is stated? In my opinion "located" adds nothing and is ugly, but I see it a lot on Wikipedia and I don't know whether to remove it when I edit. Apologies if this question should have been posted (located!) elsewhere. Thanks - Adrian Pingstone (talk) 17:22, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

I think it makes it sound more formal, but I presume personal preference is the key. Use whatever you want but don't change others' without consensus as it would be an unnecessary change...... Dendodge .. Talk^Help 17:26, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

I would use the word located, but then I generally have a more formal writing style. There's certainly nothing wrong with it. :) PeterSymonds (talk) 17:39, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

The word is a "dead word." John Brogan (Clear Technical Writing, McGraw-Hill, 1973, ISBN 978-0070079748) defines a dead word as a word one can remove from a sentence with no loss of meaning. The only function of a dead word is to make a sentence harder to read than necessary. --Teratornis (talk) 19:34, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Perhaps the single most common "dead word" in Wikipedia is "also," a particular specialty of the biographical run-on article. "Fred Farquhar was a lutanist and goldminer; also a throatwarbler; he also tanned Nauga hides, and was also known as the prettiest transvestite in the Eastern Yukon (also in the Northwest Territories)..." etc.

Events in England during the year 1978.

I want to get to know all the main events that have taken place in England since 1978 up to 2008.

Is there a better way to get this knowledge from you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.252.67.25 (talk) 19:55, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

See History of the United Kingdom, specifically History of the United Kingdom (1945–present). ----— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk - 19:58, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Hi. As for factual questions in the future, please use the reference desk, and this desk may help with questions like this in particular. Thanks. ~AH1^(TCU) 23:10, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Aight - Referencing In Wiki

You know those ref tags that let you reference a book or mag etc as a source for a sentence? Is there a program, script that will bring up a dialogue, rather than me typing in the monotonous tag code by hand? If someone invents/tells me about a nice pop up box I can use I'll start editing wiki again. --Manboobies (talk) 20:08, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

You could use User:Mr.Z-man/refbuttons, a user script that adds the template. Add it to your monobook. Alternatively, there's Wikipedia:Wikicite which is even easier, but an external program. Best, PeterSymonds (talk) 20:11, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

You can noww invoke refbuttons as RefTools through Special:Gadgets. ----— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk - 20:18, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

The Gadgets link is wonky. Use Special:Preferences and select Gadgets. ----— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk - 20:20, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Also see WP:EIW#Citetools for other options. --Teratornis (talk) 22:51, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

posting an article

This may be a stupid question, but is there a way to post an article without making it public, so that I may show others what it will look like, be able to get their feedback and make changes, before the whole world can see it?

Thanks for your help. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Igcc-web-asst (talk • contribs) 20:27, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

The only option to keep it semi-private is to puting it you userspace. A page like User:Igcc-web-asst/draft. That red link will take you to a page you can edit drafts in. Hope that helps!§hep • ¡Talk to me! 20:31, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

See Help:User page and Help:Subpage. "Your" userspace is actually visible to everyone and editable by them, but by convention, on Wikipedia we generally do not edit each other's user pages without asking them first. Even though WP:OWN says nobody really owns any page on Wikipedia. On Wikipedia, we have lots of rules that always apply, except when they don't. Basically, there is considerable latitude for editing pages in your userspace that should eventually end up as articles or project pages, but the criteria for deleting user pages is not as harsh as for articles. However, you are not allowed to game the system by creating user subpages which violate policies and guidelines. A user subpage should be a good faith attempt to eventually get to a page that would benefit the encyclopedia somewhere else, or which legitimately serves your own editing needs (such as creating a list of links to pages or sources you use while editing). If you really want to edit a private page using wiki-style editing, see: personal wiki and mw:Manual:Wiki on a stick. --Teratornis (talk) 23:02, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

(edit conflict)Hi. As for getting others' feedback, you may want to bring it up on RfF, the associated Wikiproject, or maybe the helpdesk. However, in some cases, you might have to wait a few days before someone responds with feedback if the page is backlogged. Hope this helps. Thanks. ~AH1^(TCU) 23:07, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Blocking Wikipedia in search engines

How do I block your website so it doesn't get in the way when I want to search the Web? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.64.191.241 (talk) 20:35, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Hi! Just place the following in your search term (without the quotes) "-wikipedia" :) Stwalkerster [ talk ] 20:38, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Have you tried Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer just about any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. I hope this helps. SimsFan^{Talk • Centre of Ops • Sign and Get Award} 20:42, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

If you're using Google to search, add -site:wikipedia.org to the end of your search. -- Kesh (talk) 21:00, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

If you want to avoid Wikipedia results because of some concern over their accuracy, or the type of content included in them, be careful - there are many mirror sites that copy Wikipedia content, sometimes without attribution. About.com is probably the biggest one, but there are plenty of others, and if you've just excluded Wikipedia itself you may not recognise these mirrors when they show up in your search. Confusing Manifestation(Say hi!) 23:12, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

We really do have an article on everything: meta:Mirror filter explains how to modify a search so as to exclude all known Wikipedia mirrors. Algebraist 00:03, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Ads

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I have a guestbook at User:SimsFan/SignBook, that has been running for a few days (even Jimbo has signed it!!!).

Where can I advertise this. I have already advertised on my userpage and in my sig. SimsFan^{Talk • Centre of Ops • Sign and Get Award} 20:37, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Hi. All you have to do is add it to User:Jack/ABs. Good luck, Juliancolton ^{Tropical Cyclone} 20:38, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

hi

i just created my person and when i log in it gave me a page with rules on it. i read them but i still have a few questions. one. how do actually cite sources? what nobility? and why can a page be deleted for having numbers on it? Electrical Experiment (talk) 21:34, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Hey there, citing sources, footnotes and reliable sources should help you with your first question. The second is notability guidelines. As for your last. A page may be deleted for a variety of reasons. See our deletion policies for more information. Wisdom89 _{(T / ^C)} 21:36, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

I read wp;cite but i dont get what there saying. Electrical Experiment (talk) 21:42, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

In general it's not necessary to worry much about making mistakes. If you screw something up, someone will fix it. Now, if people start leaving you messages saying "Please don't do this again", yes, you should listen to them and slow down until you understand the problem. Friday (talk) 21:49, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

also i keep going through my google web search bar on the top right of my browser. can i change that to wikipedia. Electrical Experiment (talk) 21:54, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

If you are using the new firefox, there should be a drop down arrow next to the search bar where you can select wikipedia. Wisdom89 _{(T / ^C)} 21:56, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Very little on Wikipedia makes sense when you are new. Just keep reading WP:CITE every day for a while, and it will sink in. You might find WP:FOOT easier to start with, since that one is more of a how-to page. What article do you want to edit, and what sources do you want to add to it? If you tell us exactly what you want to do, we can show you exactly how to do it. You might also want to start by editing a User:Electrical Experiment/Sandbox page. That's what we call a user subpage. You can practice on your user subpage and make mistakes and learn without much worry about other people "yelling" at you. --Teratornis (talk) 22:49, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

One thing I have found, and I'm a recently new arrival myself, is to check out Featured Articles in the field your interested in. They will show you what great articles should consist of, rather than just tell you, and you can see the types of sources that are cited and why. Good luck! Fribbler (talk) 23:37, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

To wisdom 89 Im on Safari? do you now how to change it. Electrical Experiment (talk) 00:11, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Unfortunately, Safari cannot change it by default. You would have to install third-party software to alter Safari's behavior, which can be a bit buggy. -- The Hand That Feeds You:^Bite 16:37, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Journal of Forensic Accounting

Admin Hu12 insists on repeatedly deleting the article. The journal has numerous web citations and has been independently reviewed by at least two accounting departments of international universities. Can someone please stop the malicious deletions and block him from these edits? Jheiv (talk) 22:54, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

If you feel that the page has been erroneously deleted, you can bring it up at Deletion Review. Please be sure to consider if the guidelines that Hu12 has cited mean that the page really should not exist. -- Natalya 22:58, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Hi. Make sure it matches Wikipedia's notability policy. Also, admins usually don't get blocked for deletions like this. Perhaps it matches the speedy deletion criteria, so make sure you write it so that it looks noteworthy, and you might also want to bring it up on the admin's talkpage. Thanks. ~AH1^(TCU) 23:02, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

See related

• Talk:Forensic_accounting#Third_opinion
• Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Spam#R.T._Edwards.2C_Inc_links
• User_talk:Jheiv/Journal_of_Forensic_Accounting
• User_talk:Hu12#Forensic_Accounting_and_Journal_of_Forensic_Accounting_Link
• User_talk:Jheiv#Additions of R.T. Edwards, Inc links

I'm trying to help this user develop the article first in the userspace so it meets notability for inclusion. However Jheiv (Production Manager) is attempting to use brute force, rather than discussion. as noted this user has a Conflict of interest with R.T. Edwards publications topic.--Hu12 (talk) 23:05, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

• Blatent WP:CANVASS Violation
• Wikipedia:Deletion_review/Active#Journal_of_Forensic_Accounting

--Hu12 (talk) 23:12, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Also see: Wikipedia:Why was my article deleted? If you (Jheiv) are part of a business, see: WP:BFAQ. --Teratornis (talk) 23:13, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

The User is Forum shopping, repeatedly asking for additional outside opinions until he gets an opinion he likes. Based on his edit history, he exist for the sole and primary purpose of promoting R.T. Edwards publications in apparent violation of Conflict of interest or anti-spam guidelines.--Hu12 (talk) 00:26, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Log in / create account page

I would like the webmaster to change the layout of the "Log in / create account" page. The "Log in" button and the "Email new password" button are to close together. And when you get in a hurry, a user accidentally hits the second button. This is not user friendly and most all websites do not put there two items so close together. Please make this page more user friendly. WikiDon (talk) 23:29, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

You may want to leave a note at Bugzilla for the developers. We can change some of the layout of the page locally, but not how the buttons are placed. Sorry. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 23:30, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Actually, it might be possible to CSS the buttons a bit further apart. Asking at Bugzilla's likely to give a better result in the long-term, though. ais523 (talk) 12:00, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

You mean someone doesn't just hit enter when they log in? Anyway, as the message you get with your new password says, if you pressed the button accidentally you can just delete the message and ignore it; you old password will continue to work just fine. Of course, this doesn't mean we couldn't improve the layout of Special:UserLogin, but it does make the issue somewhat less critical. —Ilmari Karonen (talk) 13:01, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

May 20

Template:Infobox image

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With Template:Infobox afl player you can choose how big or small you wish the image to be. I've created Template:Infobox Victorian Football League season and implemented it at 1930 VFL season but I am unable to adjust the size of the picture. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Cheers. Crickettragic (talk) 02:03, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Mm. The problem could be that the Template:Infobox Victorian Football League season is not formatted properly or that the image itself cannot be resized. I will take a closer look.--RyRy5 (talk ♠ wikify) 02:10, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

You must specify the size unit: px, em or %. For 1930 VFL season, you set it to 150px. ----— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk - 09:02, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Sorry, Gadget. I tried changing the 150px but for some odd reason it stayed the same size. --RyRy5 (talk ♠ wikify) 09:19, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

I was thinking something else. :) Never mind.--RyRy5 (talk ♠ wikify) 09:20, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks guys that's exactly what I was after! Cheers Crickettragic (talk) 10:01, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Resetting "left" alignment

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In the Cockapoo article it seems that the Height/Weight table near the bottom of the page is causing the subsequent sections to align to it rather than to the left of the page as would be typical. I've tried to reset using <br clear='all'> but it didn't help. Any ideas? --hydnjo talk 03:06, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Hehe, fixed. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk ♦ contribs) @ 03:24, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Well then, thanks for the "|}". You must be pretty good at this s*** to spot that so quickly. --hydnjo talk 03:41, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Your welcome, and it is more knowing where to look than any special knowledge about formatting :) « Gonzo fan2007 (talk ♦ contribs) @ 03:53, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Losing the "References" index

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Well then, do you think that a similar defect (re the previous posting) might be causing the loss of reference indexing at #173 in the Mike Huckabee article? --hydnjo talk 04:09, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Are you pointing at ref #140? There seems to be an invalid ref there. I'll try to fix it.RyRy5 (talk ♠ wikify) 04:17, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Eek, that too (I missed that one)! But #141 seems OK whereas all starting at #173 don't seem to sync. --hydnjo talk 04:24, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Wow, #140 seems impossible to fix. I tried about 6 times and nothing seems to work. Do you think I should remove that ref? In the meantime, I'll see your other problem with the article.--RyRy5 (talk ♠ wikify) 04:36, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, remove #140 and let someone else restore it properly. The #173 problem is more serious in that it screws up all of the subsequent refs. Thanks for your efforts - like I said on the talk page, it's way above my pay grade. --hydnjo talk 04:41, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

I'll go head and do that. I'll try to see the problem with #173. Actually, I have to be offline now. I'm a busy person. Someone else will probably find the problem. Regards, RyRy5 (talk ♠ wikify) 04:43, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

With #140 gone the subsequent refs get reassigned so that the previous #173 problem is now the #172 problem (just in case someone else is trying to follow along). --hydnjo talk 04:50, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

This was a good one:

• When you hover over the ^ that begins the ref, it should popup with the backlink; the number at the end is one less than the ref number (it starts with 0). Look at ref 165— it pops up with 189.
  • Ref 164: the cite template was malformed- it does not end with }}
  • Ref 189, under "Controversial public comments" had a malformed citation template that began with one "{".
• So- everything between 164 and 189 was being eaten by the template.
• Also: Looking at 165 inline, it is <ref name="abcaids" />. The problem is that this named ref was defined two paragraphs down. It should have given an error, but I think it was suppressed by the malformed template.
• You really need to work all of the cites into templates. The reference section looks awful with all of those long URLs cutting across the columns.
• You should run the article through LinkChecker and weed out any dead links.

--— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk - 09:36, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks Gaget for your fixes and your suggestions which I'll post on the article's talk page. --hydnjo talk 15:16, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

You are welcome. This was a nice little puzzle: one template was not closed properly, the other not opened properly causing the content in between to be nested. I will have to play with some variations to see what else might break. ----— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk - 15:29, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

making Javascript click on "edit this page"

Using Javascript, how do you "click" on the "edit this page" button? J.delanoy^gabs_adds 04:54, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

What? Could you clarify a bit? I don't really get what you're asking... Calvin 1998 ^(t-c) 05:01, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

To open the editpage in a new window/tab:

window.open(wgServer + wgScript + "?title=" + wgPageName + "&action=edit");

Or to open it in the same window/tab:

window.location.href = wgServer + wgScript + "?title=" + wgPageName + "&action=edit";

-- Mr.Z-man 05:08, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Perhaps what you are tying to do is follow the instructions for adding javascript to your wikipedia to perform some function, such as installing WP:TWINKLE or something similar. What you need to go is go to User:YourUsernameHere/monobook.js and from there you should see an "edit this page" at the top... Tiggerjay (talk) 06:33, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

What I want to do is make it so that when I click on a button, it opens the "edit this page" link and executes this code.

/* <pre> */
 
function welcome() {
 
    // Find the edit box
    var txt = document.editform.wpTextbox1;
 
    //The welcome template you are wanting to use
    var welcome_msg = 'User:J.delanoy/welcome'
 
    // The code to be added to the page
    var tag = '{{'+'subst'+':'+ welcome_msg +'}}';
 
    // If the edit box doesn't already have this tag...
    if (txt.value.indexOf(tag) == -1) {
 
        // Append the tag
        txt.value += tag;
 
        // Add an edit summary
        document.editform.wpSummary.value = 'Welcome to Wikipedia!';    
 
        // Press the Save page button
        document.editform.submit();
    } 
 
    // If the tag was already there, turn the tab background red to indicate 
    // that the script is functioning properly, but that there is no action 
    // to do.  This doesn't interrupt the user's work like an alert() would.
    else {
        document.getElementById('ca-unverified').firstChild.style.backgroundColor = "#ff4444";
        document.getElementById('ca-unverified').style.backgroundColor = "#ff4444";
    }
}
 
// Code used if not editing page
/* <pre> */
// THIS PART HERE IS ME TRYING TO FIGURE IT OUT
 
function welcome2() {
//THIS HERE IS MY ATTEMPT. I WANT TO INSERT CODE HERE THAT OPENS THE "EDIT THIS PAGE" LINK...
 var form = this.responseXML.getElementById( 'editform' );
		var tag = form.wpTextbox1.value;
		var tag = '{{'+'subst'+':'+ welcome_msg +'}}';
 
//AND THEN EXECUTES THE CODE BELOW....
    // Find the edit box
    var txt = document.editform.wpTextbox1;
 
    //The welcome template you are wanting to use
    var welcome_msg = 'User:J.delanoy/welcome'
 
    // The code to be added to the page
    var tag = '{{'+'subst'+':'+ welcome_msg +'}}';

    // If the edit box doesn't already have this tag...
    if (txt.value.indexOf(form) == -1) {
 
        // Append the tag
        txt.value += form;
 
        // Add an edit summary
        document.editform.wpSummary.value = 'Welcome to Wikipedia!';    
 
        // Press the Save page button
        document.editform.submit();
    } 
 
    // If the tag was already there, turn the tab background red to indicate 
    // that the script is functioning properly, but that there is no action 
    // to do.  This doesn't interrupt the user's work like an alert() would.
    else {
        document.getElementById('ca-unverified').firstChild.style.backgroundColor = "#ff4444";
        document.getElementById('ca-unverified').style.backgroundColor = "#ff4444";
    }
}
// Create a tab that calls this function when pressed
addOnloadHook(function () {
    if(document.title.indexOf("User talk:") == 0) {
        addPortletLink('p-cactions', 'javascript:welcome2()', 'welcome', 'ca-welcome', 'Adds a welcome note to a new user', '', '');
    }
    if(document.title.indexOf("Editing User talk:") == 0) {
        addPortletLink('p-cactions', 'javascript:welcome()', 'welcome', 'ca-welcome', 'Adds a welcome note to a new user', '', '');
    }
});

Sorry I didn't reply sooner, I was asleep... J.delanoy^gabs_adds 13:35, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

complaining for nagercoil town secretery

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Dear sir

<post removed>

Thank you for your action —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.93.129.107 (talk) 06:14, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

This page is only for questions about USING Wikipedia. It seems your question is non-wikipedia related. Thank you.

--RyRy5 (talk ♠ wikify) 06:19, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia is not the place to bring your complaint. Sometimes people see one of our over two million articles and make an assumption that the site is connected with the subject of the article, which is I think what happened here. However, please undestand that Wikipedia is an online encyclopedia with over 2 million articles, written by a huge number of volunteers; we have no direct connection with the entity you are writing about. I have removed the text of your post as we do not allow personal attacks on persons and entities to remain. Thanks for understanding.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 11:33, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Signature

Is it ok for me to have a colorful signature like this? Bed-Head-HairUser:BedHeadHairGirl12:14, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

It's fine, unless it causes problems for people with color blindness. The signature guidelines are here. Epbr123 (talk) 12:21, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Thank you :) I will go and read that now. Bed-Head-HairUser:BedHeadHairGirlBed-Head-Hair 12:24, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Generally, signatures are encourages not to contain text which is taller than the standard line height, therefore I would encourage you to remove the <big></big> tags and perhaps consider using <small></small> tags if you want contrasting text size. The colours are fine, though! haz (talk) 12:25, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

I would say, though, that I find the yellow a little hard to read. Epbr123 (talk) 12:26, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Is now ok? Bed-Head-HairUser:BedHeadHairGirl12:30, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

I've changed it to this Bed-Head-HairUser:BedHeadHairGirl12:31, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

I think that's fine. Epbr123 (talk) 12:36, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

how do you look up the meaning of a word in wikipedia?

does your site have a dictionary facility such as an oxford dictionary? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.240.117.96 (talk) 13:01, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Try Wiktionary. —Ilmari Karonen (talk) 13:03, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia:WikiProject South America template banner

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At Talk:María del Luján Telpuk, I am having trouble with the {{WikiProject South America}}. It is missing a space after the name of the project as it appears on the talk page. More importantly, it is transcluding from either {{WP Venezuela}}, or {{WikiProject Argentina}}, but in the transclusion it does not nest when necessary.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 14:30, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

If you have a look at {{WP Venezuela}}, it is a soft redirect to {{WikiProject South America}}. There is a provision in the South America template to include Venezuela=yes and Venezuela-importance=. I have removed the Venezuela one and replaced it with the provisions. I haven't filled out the importance rating, I leave to that someone from the project. Regards. Woody (talk) 14:36, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Username

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 – Different username chosen.

I would like to create the account: Sir Monty. Will this username be allowed? or will it be deleted? 92.5.36.7 (talk) 15:23, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

That should be fine. The username policy is located at WP:U, and since the name isn't misleading, offensive, promotional or similar to another established user, you should be good to go. You can either create the account yourself, or request it if you are unable to create the account for some reason. haz (talk) 15:28, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

It doesn't yet exist, according to Special:Listusers...... Dendodge .. Talk^Help 15:30, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

I can't. Sirmonty exists. 92.5.36.7 (talk) 15:32, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Request an account; you can request the account via email if you like. Otherwise, select a different name. --ais523 15:34, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

But I have created King Monty IV (King Monty IV (talk)). I have another question (see below). King Monty IV (talk) 15:37, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Userpage

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I ran a wiki where under my policies, I discouraged userpages and changes in signatures. I know how to edit, but how do you get them cool personalised sigs and userpages. Who makes them or can I make one (if I can, how?) King Monty IV (talk) 15:37, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Yes, you can make them. Your userpage is linked from your signature, and you can edit it just like any other page; your signature's accessible via Special:Preferences, and if you uncheck 'Use raw signature' you can write your signature in wikimarkup (although make sure you give a link to your userpage and/or talkpage). For more information: Wikipedia:Userpage, Wikipedia:Signatures, Wikipedia:How to fix your signature. --ais523 15:40, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. But is there any guides on making the boxes and stuff in a userpage. King Monty IV (talk) 15:41, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

(ec x2) ais523 is right, but you need to make sure it conforms to the signature guidelines at Wikipedia:Signatures. If your signature is too extravagant or if its raw source is too long, you may be asked to change it – just use common sense and the guidelines on the above page. See Wikipedia:User page for information on what you can and cannot do with it. Hope that helps. haz (talk) 15:43, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Userboxes are explained and listed at Wikipedia:Userboxes. Olaf Davis | Talk 16:15, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

You should get to know the Editor's index, where you can look up all these instructions. For example, see: WP:EIW#Userbox, WP:EIW#UserPage, and the cross-reference links from those entries. --Teratornis (talk) 20:02, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

You can look at the Wikipedia:User Page Design Center and WP:UBX for more info on creating userboxes, designing user pages, etc.--RyRy5 (talk ♠ copy-edit) 03:35, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

For users who design user pages (like me), you can request as Wikipedia:WikiProject User Page Help. --RyRy5 (talk ♠ copy-edit) 03:38, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

Talk page GA icon

I just noticed a GA icon at the top of Talk:María del Luján Telpuk. I have never noticed such an icon on any of my GAs before. How can I get it on all my GAs? Is it possible for such an icon to appear on the article page?--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 16:30, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

This has been discussed before, and it's apparently not a good idea. The discussion (at WT:GA?) had consensus against doing so, I believe...... Dendodge .. Talk^Help 16:35, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Move along, nothing to see. This was just discussed a few weeks ago, and I really don't want to see another excessive debate. You can put the GA symbol on your userpage to signify your GAs. Juliancolton ^{Tropical Cyclone} 16:38, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

But where's it coming from? I don't see a source (template? part of a template?) for it. PeterSymonds (talk) 16:41, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Something to do with this edit to the Template:GA? If it is, I don't understand why it's not showing up on every GA talk page. PeterSymonds (talk) 16:47, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Because {{GA}} is only transcluded on two article talk pages? Algebraist 16:56, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Oh. :) PeterSymonds (talk) 16:58, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

I seem to have missed the debate about GA icons on article pages that Juliancolton refers to. Can someone show me the debate.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 21:43, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

I'm not sure if it was archived, but it was a large discussion at WT:GA that took place for a couple weeks. Juliancolton ^{Tropical Cyclone} 12:48, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

Image Upload from Commons

I've put an image on the next DYK template, and need to protect it for when it appears on the Main Page. Or rather, since the image is on Commons, I need to C-upload it and protect that. However, the uploader won't let me save an image with the same name as one on Commons. Is there a convention for naming the second copy, or a way to circumvent that?

Also, the licence tag on the original image is "public domain in the United States, and those countries with a copyright term of life of the author plus 80 years or less." But as far as I can make out none of the licenses available on the Wikipedia upload page are exactly equivalent to this - why is that? Olaf Davis | Talk 16:53, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Okay, I've uploaded the image and placed the {{C-uploaded}} template. I'm pretty sure the license is life of the author plus eighty years. PeterSymonds (talk) 17:06, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks Peter. Could you explain why I was having trouble with the name for next time? Also, the "author plus eighty years" license wasn't listed in the uploader; indeed, Template:PD-old-80 which you've placed there is redlinked. Olaf Davis | Talk 17:13, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Well I've only updated the DYK once, and that was the only occasion I had to upload a duplicate image. Maybe it's an admin thing? I'm not sure. Oh, the license is {{PD-US}}, so I'll correct that! PeterSymonds (talk) 17:19, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Problems with new account

Okay, I created a new account because of privacy concerns. Only, I can't get the Gadgets in my preferences to activate. I've flushed my cache, even told Firefox (3rc1) to clear all my offline data, and Twinkle & the clock won't load. Any suggestions? — The Hand That Feeds You:^Bite 16:55, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Twinkle only works for autoconfirmed users, accounts that are four days old. Not sure about the clock though... I assume you mean the "purge" clock? That should work for all registered users. PeterSymonds (talk) 16:57, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Oh, duh, I forgot about the autoconfirm. So I won't get Twinkle until the weekend... nuts. But yes, the "purge" clock in Gadgets isn't coming up either. — The Hand That Feeds You:^Bite 17:05, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Try pasting this into your monobook.js. PeterSymonds (talk) 17:45, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

That's not working either. And now I see that User:Ais523/votesymbols.js & User:Ais523/adminrights.js aren't loading either. And I've tried in another Firefox-based browser, and Safari, so it's still not working. The only thing I can figure is that scripts are disabled entirely until an account is auto-confirmed, which kinda sucks. — The Hand That Feeds You:^Bite 17:59, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Maybe you could try disabling all gadgets, wiping your monobook.js, and then installing a simple script to see if it works? Also, remember that you have to bypass your cache after script changes. --ais523 20:48, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

No go. In fact, I logged out of this account and into my old (retired) account, and all of its scripts are working just fine. Logged back here, flushed my cache (again) and still nothing. — The Hand That Feeds You:^Bite 20:58, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Well, scripts don't work on Special:Preferences, so maybe cache-flushing there doesn't work. Otherwise, I can't really think of anything. (I'm not aware of a scripts-to-autoconfirmed restriction, but that doesn't mean it doesn't exist). --ais523 21:01, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Well, I meant scripts in my monobook.js file, but yeah. I opened a thread on Village pump Techincal to see if anyone knows what's going on there. — The Hand That Feeds You:^Bite 21:07, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Exporting images

I'm in the process of making another wiki (Based on MediaWiki of course), and so would want to export some Wikipedia's images (No copyright problems as I know of) to that wiki. Is the only way I can do saving those images on my system and re-importing them to that wiki...? Are there easier methods?--Samuel di Curtisi di Salvadori 17:01, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

If the images are not copyrighted and have been released under a free use license, then you can move them to Commons. Otherwise, the method you described is probably your best option. See Wikipedia:Image use policy for more information. Hope that helps. haz (talk) 17:06, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

See also: WP:DUMP#Images and uploaded files and WP:DUMP#Currently Wikipedia does not allow or provide facilities to download all Images. --Teratornis (talk) 19:54, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Haz: I'm not using Wikia, so putting pics to commons are of no use to me. --Samuel di Curtisi di Salvadori 01:24, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

how to publish an article? The Speaker's House (talk) 18:05, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia,

I could not find an answer to this question in your FAQ's section, so i am asking it here. I am writing an article on a historical house known as The Speaker's House. When I am done writing this article on Wikipedia, and after i have fully edited it and put all the citations in, how do i make it appear as a searchable topic on wikipeida, in the words how do i publish it on wikipedia, thus making it a legitimate page for people to visit and read.

Thanks,

David Muir — Preceding unsigned comment added by The Speaker's House (talk • contribs)

You created the article in your userpage. Do you want me to move it to the article space? J.delanoy^gabs_adds 18:07, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Once a page is created it can be searched. See Help:Starting a new pageGtstricky^{Talk or C} 18:08, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Secure login incompatible with editng?

I've been trying to edit the page Talk:Unit_of_selection. I find that when I preview the result, my signature shows my IP address, instead of my Wikipedia ID. So I go to login through the secure server. Then I end up at https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Main_Page . So I navigate to the talk page in that server.

Everything looks good until I "Click here to start a new topic" (http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Talk:Unit_of_selection&action=edit&section=new). Presto! I'm anonymous, and my 4 tilde signature shows my IP address.

I don't know if the problem is local to that page, that project, Wikipedia, or the MediaWiki software. I've already burned way too much time on a simple citation-needed. I gotta go.

--RickJS (talk) 18:45, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Intersting, when I used your link - it kicked me out -- but when I went there on my own, it worked fine... Ah, I think the problem IS your link -- see that your link is http://en.wiki.... instead of https://secure.wiki.... -- make sure that you're logged in, and the go to the page by searching "Unit of selection" and then talk, then new section... Give that a try. Tiggerjay (talk) 19:45, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Ah, see I'd suggest the opposite. If you're signed into the secure server, you should edit the secure version of the page. It looks like you signed into the secure serve then tried to edit a "normal" page. I'm supposing that you'd need to be signed in "normally" to edit a "normal" page and so on. Seraphim♥Whipp 19:52, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

If you're using Firefox (or some other browser that supports Greasemonkey scripts), may I suggest a couple that I've written: secure Wikimedia links and prevent anon editing. —Ilmari Karonen (talk) 22:16, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

log-in issue...

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hello dear contributors,

wow this is a big massage box for a simple question i'm going to ask...

question:

i have a wiki username, when i already logged in to the english language page, on the chinese language page it seemed i am still out or non exist. is that normal? i would not want to register again to the chinese page, and i hope it has nothing to do with some exclusive chinese rules other than those of wiki's, it's a free encyclopedia no? i'm on mac, browsers tried are safari/camino/icab/firefox. thank you and hope to hear from you soon!

Meteque (talk) 21:28, 20 May 2008 (UTC) josie? (how to really sign my name?)

First you just need ~~~~, not a name. Unfortunately, yes you do need to sign up separate accounts on each language and on each project. Single account login is on the way, and it's in beta for admins. Paragon12321 (talk) 21:41, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Infobox Company Error

When i use the following code;

Vision Equities

My page says this;

Template loop detected: Template:Infobox Company

"Gaia-Wind" are a company that develop and manufacture small and efficient wind turbines for supplying electricity to properties such as private homes, farms offices, and swimming pools.

History

Established in the mid 1990's in Aarhus, Denmark, the develpoment of the company coincided with a demonstration project by the Danish Wind Energy Association to support and and regenerate a market for small wind turbines.

In October 2006, Gaia-Wind was taken over by a group of investors committed to further improving the product and driving forward the international expansion of the company. Since this acquisition the Gaia-Wind has relocated to Scotland, and from 2007 has operated from its offices in Hillington, Glasgow.

Why. This makes no sense —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.127.199.234 (talk) 21:54, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Did you read the template documentation? Some fields are mandatory. Astronaut (talk) 22:26, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Javascript question

On the code below, why does it not execute the code after the first step? ("Open the 'edit this page' link") J.delanoy^gabs_adds 23:42, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

function welcome2() {
 
    // Open the "edit this page" link
    window.location.href = wgServer + wgScript + "?title=" + wgPageName + "&action=edit"
 
    // Find the edit box
    var txt = document.editform.wpTextbox1;
 
    //The welcome template you are wanting to use
    var welcome_msg = 'User:J.delanoy/welcome';
 
    // The code to be added to the page
    var tag = '{{'+'subst'+':'+ welcome_msg +'}}';
 
    // If the edit box doesn't already have this tag...
    if (txt.value.indexOf(tag) == -1) {
 
        // Append the tag
        txt.value += tag;
 
        // Add an edit summary
        document.editform.wpSummary.value = 'Welcome to Wikipedia!';    
 
        // Press the Save page button
        document.editform.submit();
    }  
 
    // If the tag was already there, turn the tab background red to indicate 
    // that the script is functioning properly, but that there is no action 
    // to do.  This doesn't interrupt the user's work like an alert() would.
    else {
        document.getElementById('ca-unverified').firstChild.style.backgroundColor = "#ff4444";
        document.getElementById('ca-unverified').style.backgroundColor = "#ff4444";
    }
}
// Create a tab that calls this function when pressed
addOnloadHook(function () {
    if(document.title.indexOf("User talk:") == 0) {
        addPortletLink('p-cactions', 'javascript:welcome2()', 'welcome', 'ca-welcome', 'Adds a welcome note to a new user', '', '');
    }
    if(document.title.indexOf("Editing User talk:") == 0) {
        addPortletLink('p-cactions', 'javascript:welcome()', 'welcome', 'ca-welcome', 'Adds a welcome note to a new user', '', '');
    }
});

Because as soon as you change window.location.href, your browser load the new URL and any scripts on the old page stop running. There are various ways to work around that problem, but in your case, the simplest way might be to remove that line and only insert the tab when you're already editing a page. —Ilmari Karonen (talk) 00:46, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

I already had the code to do that(that's what function welcome() is, I just wanted to make it so that it would work either way. J.delanoy^gabs_adds 02:14, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

Tagging or reporting HTML/CSS errors

I can't figure out how to tag an article which does not format correctly with specific browsers. I noticed that the V-Twin article has the edit links for sections 1-8 all rendered in the middle of section 8 when using Opera or Firefox. A quick look at the Wiki source left me clueless as to the cause, but I wanted to tag it for attention somehow. After fumbling around in the documentation for a bit I ended up here.

What is the correct way to tag flaws like this so that someone with more wiki-fu will notice?

Real Deuce (talk) 23:43, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

The problem is that the code that produces the pictures is all grouped at the top. I'll see if I can fix it, but I don't know how well I'll do. J.delanoy^gabs_adds 23:44, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

This is called edit bunching and is an unfortunate artifact of WikiMarkup. See WP:BUNCH for further explanation and a fix. ----— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk - 23:46, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

I fixed it... J.delanoy^gabs_adds 23:47, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks... but what is the correct way to tag flaws like this so that someone with more wiki-fu will notice?

If you see this particular problem again, you should be able to fix it yourself with the instructions at WP:BUNCH. J.delanoy resolved this particular problem by wrapping the images in a table. WP:BUNCH will shou you how to do it using a template called {{FixBunching}} which effectively does the same thing. If you need more help, ask here. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk - 18:57, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

Yes, in the future, I should be able to fix this specific flaw, I was wondering if there's a general way of saying "This is broken and I don't know how to fix it." A simple "yes, use <whatever>" or "no, if you can't fix it, bring it here" would resolve this one. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Real Deuce (talk • contribs) 22:44, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

May 21

Registered name not appearing after edition

Hi! I had registered my name on wikipedia.For two days my name did appear after editions,but now only I P No. appears.How to get my regd. name again.My registered name was sudhirbhargava

--117.198.128.108 (talk) 01:43, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

Are you logging in? Wisdom89 _{(T / ^C)} 01:46, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

You're not stating quite enough for us to tell what's going on so here's a bunch of answers to possible scenarios your post suggests to me. First, as Wisdom suggests, have you logged in? If you're having trouble doing that because you forgot your password, then you can request Wikipedia email you it (there's a button for this on the page I just linked). However, this will only work if you supplied your email address when you signed up. If you didn't, and can't remember your password, then you pretty much have to sign up for a new account; you password is unretrievable. If you're successfully logging in, but then soon afterwards it switches back to your ip address, make sure your have your computer set to allow cookies. If none of this addresses your issue, please add some detail about exactly what is going on.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 03:27, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

conflict of interest: neutral editor sought to make correction

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An article about a different company wrongly attributes one of my company's features to them. To avoid conflict of interest I don't want to correct things myself, and no one took notice of a notice I posted on their discussion page a year ago.

In the article "Annals of Improbable Research", the third paragraph, "AIR received attention ..." actually refers to the magazine I now own, The Journal of Irreproducible Results, which also has a Wikipedia article. The article that paragraph is about was published in JIR's volume 25, #4, 1979. That was years before AIR even existed.

If you took that paragraph whole, and changed AIR to JIR, and transplanted it into the article about JIR, everything would be factually correct.

The owner-editor of AIR used to be editor of JIR. He had a big disagreement with the then-owner, and went off and set up his own magazine, AIR. He also had a big disagreement with the next owner of JIR. Then I bought JIR in 2004. Now, AIR and JIR are at peace, and no one is saying or doing anything bad to or about the other. I don't want to violate any conflict-of-interest principles, nor cause a hassle. I just want to correct a long-standing error that misleads readers about which famous articles appeared in which magazines.

I will be happy to supply whatever supplementary information you wish.

—Preceding unsigned comment added by StarryEye (talk • contribs) 01:51, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

Please do not add personal info in your message. Thank you. --RyRy5 (talk ♠ copy-edit) 01:53, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

You may want to post this on the article's talk page to bring this to the attention of other editors who are involved with that article. You can reach this page by clicking the "discussion" tab that appears at the top of the page when viewing the article. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 02:28, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

I've looked into the issue, and agree that the paragraph was in the wrong article, so I've moved the paragraph over and added a rationale on the discussion page. Hopefully I haven't been too bold. - Bilby (talk) 02:57, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

How to allow only Wikipedia editors to edit an article

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Hi. How do you allow only wikipedia editors to edit an article and block non-editors with I.P. addresses from editing an article? Sonic99 (talk) 03:09, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

Well, you would have to be an administrator or request at WP:RFPP. Hope that helps. :) --RyRy5 (talk ♠ copy-edit) 03:14, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

But note that there has to be a good reason for it, like recent heavy vandalism. Calvin 1998 ^(t-c) 03:21, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

Oh, and it's called protection, and the relevant policy page is here. Calvin 1998 ^(t-c) 03:23, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

Also, what you are talking about "preventing IPs from editing articles", that is called semi-protection. Admins can actually block wikipedia users also from editing fully protected pages so that IPs and users can't edit them and only admins can.--RyRy5 (talk ♠ copy-edit) 03:28, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

What exactly are you attempting to accomplish here. Just a reminder about ownership of all wikipedia content. Tiggerjay (talk) 05:14, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

Effectively it's only technically possible in response to an incident, usually high levels of vandalism. The rest of the criteria for semi-protection is in the protection policy. Your page will not be protected if it doesn't meet those criteria. Thanks, PeterSymonds (talk) 06:47, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

Also note that everyone who edits Wikipedia is an "editor" whether they have created an account or not. The correct terms are "registered editors" and "unregistered editors." A registered editor can also edit as an unregistered editor by not logging in before editing, so one might also speak of "logged-in editors" and "non-logged-in editors." At the moment, the English Wikipedia has 48,359,286 registered editors, not all of whom are active, distinct, or even necessarily alive (may they rest in peace). --Teratornis (talk) 15:35, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

Since unregistered editors account for about 97% of vandalism on Wikipedia, perhaps your question is really a question about your "step" rather than your "goal" (see How to ask questions the smart way for an explanation of "step" and "goal"). If your goal is to fight vandalism, see WP:EIW#Vandal. --Teratornis (talk) 16:06, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

is Kerala land ecsclamated from the sea?

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There are foklores and stories that God has created Kerala, or the land has ecsclamated from the sea millions ofyears ago when main land of india joined with the northern land. Please give some insight to this. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.96.105.117 (talk) 07:46, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

The help desk is only for help needed for USING wikipedia. It seems your question is non-wikipedia related. --RyRy5 (talk ♠ copy-edit) 07:49, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

invisible spans

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Hi !

I just removed 3 span visibility="hidden" from Elderly Instruments (the current frontpage FA), to me it looked like pure vandalism. I just wanted to make sure I was doing the right thing, since this is a high-visibility article currently.

Is there in general any reason to have sections in articles that are invisible ? Or are these always vandalism, except perhaps when they contain information meant for other editors ? Eivind Kjørstad (talk) 08:27, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

Okay, let me have a look. Give me a minute. Steve Crossin (talk) (review) 08:29, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

Yep, seems to be vandalism to me, no doubt. Generally, I can't see any reason that something should be hidden in an article. Glad I could help out. Steve Crossin (talk) (review) 08:32, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

I thougth so. If something was removed for being somehow inapropriate it'd make more sense to simply delete it -- seeing as we've got version-control and thus the ability to reinstate deleted text if needed anyway. Thank you for your help ! Eivind Kjørstad (talk) 09:06, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

Uploading Images - size and method question

Two questions both quite simple but I cannot find a definitive answer:

1. A 10MP camera will grab a 5MB JPG file, should I downsample the images first or just upload them 'as-is'? I am guessing you want them verbatim but thought I would check
2. Is there an interactive utility for uploading images? On an ADSL line it takes some minutes with the browser doing nothing. If there is a problem it can take five minutes to find out :) I am using Windows.

RobChafer (talk) 09:55, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

1. Depends on what you are doing with the image and the article. Should it be cropped to better illustrate the subject? If the images are not copyrighted, consider uploading them to Wikimedia Commons.
2. The upload file page is it. Even on a faster connection, it can sometimes sit in dumb and happy mode for a bit.

--— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk - 10:14, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

Need help archiving my talk page.

I have been trying for a long time now to archive my talk page using Mizabot. I tried almost all options given by this bot like, limiting size of the talkpage, archiving the threads based on some days, archiving the talk page based on the days, etc...but none seem to work. These are current settings-
{{User:MiszaBot/config |counter = 1 |algo = old(5d) |maxarchivesize = 10K |archive = User talk:gppande/Archive %(counter)d }} {{archivebox|auto=yes}}
Can someone have a look at it and help me. My talkpage is getting too big to handle. --gppande «talk» 10:49, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

I think the archive page needs to be created before the bot will start to archive. Should work now. You can always cut and paste too. -CWY2190(talk • contributions) 15:17, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

• Your user name needs to be capitalized. User talk:Gppande/Archive That is an easy thing to miss. Gtstricky^{Talk or C} 15:22, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

I tried to capitalize my username completely - GPPANDE and didn't work. So I have modified to below - let's see if this works today. I appreciate your help here. --gppande «talk» 15:47, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
{{User:MiszaBot/config |counter = 1 |algo = old(5d) |maxarchivesize = 10K |archive = User talk:Gppande/Archive %(counter)d }} {{archivebox|auto=yes}}

Infobox_road map size

Is it possible to scale the map size in {{Infobox_road}} to match the width of the main image at Historic Michigan Boulevard District?--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 15:41, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

If you set the infobox parameter map_custom = yes then you can use a standard image link ([[Image:Example.jpg|parameters]]) instead of just entering the image name and having the template set the standard image options. Hope that helps. haz (talk) 15:46, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

And if you haven't memorized the standard image options, see: Help:Images and other uploaded files. Incidentally, Template:Infobox road/doc could do a better job of explaining how to use the map_custom option in conjunction with the map option. At the moment one pretty much has to read the template code to figure out how that works. --Teratornis (talk) 16:13, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

Indeed, that's how I had to work it out... the {{infobox road}} documentation mentions the map_custom field, but doesn't give any tips on how to use it. haz (talk) 16:27, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

I remember this template from a previous question. The parameter map_notes is not documented at all. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk - 17:26, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

Well, if we see an internal document on Wikipedia that is missing some needed information, and the missing information generates questions on the Help desk, that situation is crying out for someone to fix it. There is a tendency for people to figure something out, and then once they know the information they need, they don't think about the next unlucky user who will have to reinvent the same wheel. I'm as guilty of that as anyone, but for Wikipedia to advance at maximum efficiency, we should try to feed back our improvements into the manuals as we find deficiencies. On the Help desk we should not only answer questions, but try to figure out why the answer wasn't obvious to the questioner, and then see if we can make it more obvious to the next user who stumbles into the same situation. So I tried. --Teratornis (talk) 23:20, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

Wikilinks

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 – Answered elsewhere.--Tikiwont (talk) 16:46, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

I don't know how to link Peter Tork's name to his page. Someone please explain . . . Hmichele (talk) 16:32, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

WikiProject

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 – User appears to have done what is wanted. x42bn6 Talk Mess 22:28, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

I've worked on other wikis without WikiProjects. How do you join. Do I add my name to a list or something? Could you give me some links. Its the Simpsons WikiProject I want to join, as I did some work on Pray Anything. Doughnuts...Mmm! (talk) 17:17, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

The Simpsons WikiProject has instructions at Wikipedia:WikiProject The Simpsons#Participants. Follow those instructions; if you need help, fire away. x42bn6 Talk Mess 17:22, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

General information about WikiProjects is at WP:PROJ and WP:PROJGUIDE. More technical details: WP:EIW#WikiProject. --Teratornis (talk) 01:01, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

Howto link a definition?

It seems that the only allowed internal link targets are pages, and sections within a page. I would like to link to a definition term (as in a definition list used as a glossary). Is there any way to do this?

If not, might I suggest that the list of internal link targets be expanded to include definition terms, in addition to sections and pages.

jonb (talk) 19:23, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

What exact term are you trying to link to, and in what context? haz (talk) 19:26, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

Any definition term that I or others might define using the definition list formatting convention ";Definition Term: Definition Text". I would like to be able to link to such a definition, whether from within a nother definition, or from within another page.

jonb (talk) 19:29, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

You have to create an anchor and link to it— the template {{anchor}} can do that. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk - 19:37, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

(ec)You can also link to our sister project Wiktionary by using the following format: [[wikt:WORD|WORD]] replacing the 2 instances of WORD with the term you want to define. So say I wanted to define chicken, I could do this: Chicken. We usually only links terms to Wiktionary when the terms are technical, or not easily understood without defining it. This means that every word should not be linked to a definition, just a select few. Hope that helps. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk ♦ contribs) @ 19:42, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. I was hoping for something less formal for internal use than having to add our terms to Wiktionary.

jonb (talk) 19:58, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

I tried your suggestion, but the text "Template:Anchor" shows up in the page as a page link. And, linking to anchor does not make the page jump to it. Do I have to enable templates or something? (I've never used them).

In any case, it would sure make a lot of sense if definition terms were automatically made link targets -- what is the point of defining a term if you can't link to it?

jonb (talk) 19:55, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

The definition the OP is referring to is using the definition wikimarkup using ";" and ":" that can be used to build a list of terms and definitions. Example: ;Foo:definition

Foo

definition

By using an anchor, a named link can be created. Example: ;Foo:definition {{anchor|foo1}}

Foo

definition

You can then link to this with [[pagename#foo1]] --—— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk - 19:59, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

I tried this and I see "Template:Anchor" where I inserted the anchor in the definition, and I can't link to it. No doubt there is something stupid that I am overlooking.

jonb (talk) 20:04, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

What is the article and what are you doing? --—— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk - 20:08, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

No article in particle. We're using wikimedia for an in house wiki, but such a feature would be good anywhere a definition is used by anyone.

jonb (talk) 20:43, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

Then this is a MediaWiki software question, not a Wikipedia use question. You need to let us know that- WP has a lot of custom stuff that can make it very different from a vanilla MW install. You need to copy {{anchor}} to your wiki before you can use it. Just to make it more fun, anchor in turn uses other templates that you must also copy, and they might just use another template in turn. Another way you can encode the anchor is to use <span id="{{anchorencode:foo" /> instead of {{anchor}}, where foo is the name of the anchor. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk - 21:10, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

See WP:EIW#Naviga for several methods of making anchors. For example, in the Editor's index to Wikipeda itself, we use plain HTML <span id="..."/> tags to create the targets for shortcut links such as WP:EIW#Naviga. --Teratornis (talk) 22:54, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

However, since you are editing on your own wiki, presumably you don't have to follow Wikipedia's Manual of style. That means you can use any page layout you like. Therefore, you could make an ordinary page with a list of definitions. Give each definition its own section, and then you can simply link words to their defining sections. You should not need any tricky methods to put invisible name anchors into text. --Teratornis (talk) 23:01, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

Search For User Contributions On A Specific Talk Page, Article Page, Category Page, Etc. Etc.

Is there any way to search for all the contributions by a the same contributor on a specific talk page, article page, category page, etc. etc.? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.148.164.166 (talk) 20:13, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

Not really, however you can restrict the view of their contributions to a single namespace. For example, this shows all my recent contributions to articles only. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 20:32, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

You can do this by the use of external tools such as WikiSense Contributors. Have a look at Wikipedia:Tools#Page histories for any others that you might find useful. haz (talk) 20:35, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

External Links for blogs

I understand that the External Links for Wikipedia are discouraging blogs from being posted--But I have looked on another Wikipedia artist page and it clearly shows a blog link for that celebrity. What I am trying to do is display a newly developed blog for Leisha Hailey on her page. What are the exceptions for displaying blogs on Wiki? Here is the link to her blog: leishahaileyfans.blogspot.com

Can anyone assist me with this issue?--Leisha12 (talk) 20:21, 21 May 2008 (UTC)Leisha12

Have a look at Wikipedia:External links (and in particular WP:ELNO) for the policy. I would advise against the linking of a blog site, especially if you have a close link with the site in question. haz (talk) 20:28, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

review new article

Hello,

I was recently advised to create an article at User:N9NE Group/sandbox and then come here to ask an editor to review. I would like to expand on this article, but for now would just like to know if I am on the right track. Thank you N9NE Group (talk) 21:34, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

I have made changes to your sandbox, as requested. Feel free to review and comment on them. Here is probably a good place to make any comments, since your username has been blocked as a violation of username policy. haz (talk) 22:10, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

Well, in my opinion, it looks good to me. I just suggest adding the topic's history. Some expansion would do to. The references look good but remember to use reliable sources. Regards, RyRy5 (talk ♠ copy-edit) 00:08, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

The article is a good start but it has problems. Your first citation (vegas.com) is not a terrible source but it's not great either. It's a commercial site which promotes Vegas. While it is technically a "third party" source it's not wholly independent. I certainly don't think one would describe it as a reliable source with a reputation for fact-checking and accuracy. All other sources cited are better on the reliability and independence fronts, but all suffer from the same problem: the club is just mentioned peripherally in them as a place where this or that famous person appeared. The base of all notability guideline on Wikipedia is that a topic should only have an autonomous article if it has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject. That would consist of reliable sources substantively discussing the club. This is not to say that those sources should be removed, not at all. But you are going to need sources that actually cover the club itself in order to write a tertiary source encyclopedia article on it. Cheers.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 01:16, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

Request for new entry?

Is there a place where I can request a new entry? I don't know much about the subject at hand, but would like more information about it from others. --70.167.58.6 (talk) 22:27, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

If you mean making a new page, see Wikipedia:Your first article. If you mean where you can request an article to be made, that's Wikipedia:Requested articles. Hope those pages help. Calvin 1998 ^(t-c) 22:30, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

You will need to first register an account, which has many benefits, including the ability to create articles. Once you have registered, please search Wikipedia first to make sure that an article does not already exist on the subject. Please also review a few of our relevant policies and guidelines which all articles should comport with. As Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, articles must not contain original research, must be written from a neutral point of view, should cite to reliable sources which verify their content and must not contain unsourced, negative content about living people.

Articles must also demonstrate the notability of the subject. Please see our subject specific guidelines for people, bands and musicians, companies and organizations and web content and note that if you are closely associated with the subject, our conflict of interest guideline strongly recommends against you creating the article.

If you still think an article is appropriate, see Help:Starting a new page. You might also look at Wikipedia:Your first article and Wikipedia:How to write a great article for guidance, and please consider taking a tour through the Wikipedia:Tutorial so that you know how to properly format the article before creation. Paragon12321 (talk) 22:32, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

You also might wish to consider requesting an article at Wikipedia:Requested articles, although there is a bit of a backlog. (Sorry - I had missed Calvin 1998's post when I added this). - Bilby (talk) 22:47, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

Actually, I think that IPs are supposed to make requests at Articles for Creation, which I believe is backlog-free. Paragon12321 (talk) 03:26, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

Articles for Creation is for ready-written articles where the user doesn't want to register so that they can put the article into article-space straight away themselves, and as such you'd need to have at least a paragraph of text, including an assertion of notability and at least one source. Requested articles, on the other hand, just needs an article title (but then you have to wait for someone who knows enough about the topic to go there, see that it's been requested, and write the article). Confusing Manifestation(Say hi!) 03:40, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

help

Hello i need help on the steps i need to follow in order to remove a peacock term from an article.

Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ahmed Alhaji (talk • contribs) 22:48, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

Simply click on the "edit this page" tab at top of the article, locate the term you wish to remove in the body of the article (or in the lead) and delete it as you would any text. In the edit summary box provide a rationale as to why, in this case WP:PEACOCK. Then click save. Wisdom89 _{(T / ^C)} 22:52, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

When you think all the peacock terms are removed, remove the peacock term template at the top/section of the article.--RyRy5 (talk ♠ copy-edit) 00:05, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

If you tell us the article, and preferably link to it, then we can show you exactly how to remove the first few peacock terms, and you can learn from our diff to see how to remove more of them. --Teratornis (talk) 00:57, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

You can read WP:PEACOCK for more info. I suggest copy-editing those peacock articles.--RyRy5 (talk ♠ copy-edit) 05:41, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

May 22

Status of a requested translation

How long does one normally have to wait to get a response to a translation request, in this case Wikipedia:Translation/Evidence ?

Or, did I not set the request up correctly ?

If there is no one to do it, should I just get the request speedy deleted ?

Peet Ern (talk) 03:28, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

Carah Faye, Carah Faye Charnow, Mikey Martin, Michael Martin

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I made new pages for these people and they are now deleted. I checked the deletion log and cannot see why they were eliminated.Can someone please explain why?

Thanks for your help,

firstyearclay —Preceding unsigned comment added by Firstyearclay (talk • contribs) 04:15, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

Oh, their not deleted. They were just redirected to a different, appropriate article.--RyRy5 (talk ♠ copy-edit) 04:20, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

IPs cannot create articles?

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I was referred to come here about a article I'm trying to create, called GET US OUT! which is about a US organization that wants the US to get out of the UN because it alleges that the UN is corrupt, anti-American, worse, such as that it charges the UN as being part of the World Government, which is denounced AS being Satanic in the Christian religion. Source information is www.getusout.com. I even clicked on the "Start article...." link, only it says Unauthorized, thus that link no longer functions, if any links function at all, because I'm a IP. 65.163.115.254 (talk) 04:52, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

IPs cannot create articles unfortunately. But if you were to create an account, you can then create articles. Do you want to create an account? It's your choice. --RyRy5 (talk ♠ copy-edit) 04:54, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

If you do make an account and plan to write an article, you'll want to read Wikipedia:Your first article thoroughly beforehand. Calvin 1998 ^(t-c) 04:59, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

E-mail as a Source

What's the rule on using e-mail as a source? I'm almost positive that its not acceptable, but an article I watch just had a fact added based on an e-mail correspondence with a company. Is this a specific Wiki page about using e-mail as a source (ex. a more specific page like WP:NOR)? -Zomic13 (talk) 04:57, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

To clarify, since I may not be entirely clear, I'm looking for a page that I can cite in an edit summary in regards to using e-mail as a source. -Zomic13 (talk) 05:00, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

WP:RS maybe? Calvin 1998 ^(t-c) 05:03, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

I don't think there is one. I'm not entirely sure though.--RyRy5 (talk ♠ copy-edit) 05:39, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

I'm fairly certain that in order for something to be reliable, it has to pass the test of solid and consistent fact checking - an email address certainly does not meet this requirement as it is difficult to check the veracity. Wisdom89 _{(T / ^C)} 05:55, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

I looked at WP:EIW#Source, WP:RS, and WP:V, thinking that I saw something once upon a time about e-mail as a source. Nothing like that seems to be in there now, except for a footnote in WP:V#Notes and references:

• "Blogs" in this context refers to personal and group blogs. Some newspapers host interactive columns that they call blogs, and these may be acceptable as sources so long as the writers are professionals and the blog is subject to the newspaper's full editorial control. Where a news organization publishes the opinions of a professional but claims no responsibility for the opinions, the writer of the cited piece should be attributed (e.g., "Jane Smith has suggested ..."). Posts left by readers may never be used as sources.

Notice the last sentence that I italicized. An e-mail message might be in the same class as ephemera, i.e. not a reliable source (certainly, it is not a published source, unless someone included it in a published work). I also checked WP:CITET, and it lists a {{cite mailing list}} template. By itself, that does not imply mailing lists are reliable sources. We can also try searching the Help desk for: e-mail as a source; that finds:

• Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2007 April 2#Citing Sources from an e-mail?

--Teratornis (talk) 07:16, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

Unpublished emails are unacceptable as sources because they fail Wikipedia:Verifiability. A template was deleted for that reason at Wikipedia:Templates for deletion/Log/2007 April 19#Template:Cite email, where somebody created {{cite mailing list}} instead for published emails which can be used in certain circumstances where the author and content is considered reliable enough for a given purpose. I wouldn't use it for anything remotely controversial. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:54, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

user name - fallrome

i upload a photo and did not provide a copyright. went to unpload a replacement with copyright provided and was blocked. new to wikipedia and didnt know how to do it. figured it out on the other photos. the photes are of my 1973 thunderbird in the article oabout the car.

thank you  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Fallrome (talk • contribs) 06:40, 22 May 2008 (UTC) 

Hi. Is the image you're talking about Image:73tbirdfront.jpg? It hasn't actually been deleted yet so you don't need to upload another copy. Just go to the image, click "edit this page", and replace the no license tag ({{di-no license|month=May|day=20|year=2008}}) with the appropriate tag from this list. Hope that helps!

Oh, and it's helpful if you sign your posts on talk pages using four tildes, like this ~~~~, which produces your signature. Olaf Davis | Talk 10:31, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

ArticleHistory Template

Is it possible to change the {{ArticleHistory}} template to transclude the GAicon just like the {{GA}} template does?--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 07:16, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

File an {{editprotected}} request on Template talk:ArticleHistory...... Dendodge .. Talk^Help 16:09, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

You would need consensus from the GA project first, or a larger consensu at the village pump. Woody (talk) 16:20, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

Image

A request, can anyone please upload these two images from BBC [2], [3] for the article 2003 Algeria earthquake‎. I was advised some times, but still I am facing problems regarding image uploading. In this case a {{Non-free historic image}} tag would be appropriate, as it is a unique historic image, and the copyright for it is most likely held by the person who took the image or the agency employing the person. Otolemur crassicaudatus (talk) 11:10, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

KPI/SWITCH GEAR

please give me a brief description about KPI in the field of iso auditing please give me a brief description about switch gear —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bhuvanesh2k8 (talk • contribs) 11:23, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

Have you tried Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. I hope this helps. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:09, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

Display most recent history entry on an article page

Is there a way to transclude the most recent entry from the history tab into an article and have it automatically update? E.g. If I were the most recent person to edit an article I would like to have 08:45, 22 May 2008 imandir (Talk | contribs) (2,343 bytes) (+comments) display on the the article page. --IMandIR (talk) 12:53, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

IP

does wikipedia know your ip and how does it find out (if yes)?