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:::If I tried to do three or four PRs a day, I would have to be wheeled off in a cart on Day 2. I will keeping plugging away, though, at some modest level. [[User:Finetooth|Finetooth]] ([[User talk:Finetooth|talk]]) 23:49, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
:::If I tried to do three or four PRs a day, I would have to be wheeled off in a cart on Day 2. I will keeping plugging away, though, at some modest level. [[User:Finetooth|Finetooth]] ([[User talk:Finetooth|talk]]) 23:49, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

::::I also thank you for spearheading this effort. I must say that a three-day backlog doesn't strike me as blindingly urgent, though. The oldest [[WP:GAN|GA nom]] is from 19 April, and if anything PR seems like a more intensive process. If I had time to pitch in to relieve a backlog (which I don't, alas, since I'm busy with school and requests from individuals), I don't know if I'd put PR first. Maybe there's something I'm overlooking. Anyway, thanks for all your work. –&nbsp;[[User:Scartol|<span style="color:#060">Scartol</span>]]&nbsp;•&nbsp;[[User_talk:Scartol|<span style="color:#060"><small>Tok</small></span>]] 00:27, 28 May 2008 (UTC)


==Peer review question==
==Peer review question==

Revision as of 00:27, 28 May 2008

Welcome to my talk page. Please leave me a message below and I will reply on your talk page. Please be aware that although my email address is enabled, it is not an address I check often (so I may be slow in replying to email). Please also note that while I am glad to do peer reviews on just about any article, I do not have the time to do copyedits (sorry). Thanks for stopping by and happy editing! Ruhrfisch ><>°° 00:23, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

I have now made the article more chronological. Here's the peer review link. KnowledgeHegemonyPart2 (talk) 09:50, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

Yeah thanks a lot for reviewing it for the third time! Made some improvements as suggested. A copyedit is what it requires most now. Maybe copyediting will take a long long time and I don't have that much time right now.... so you can relax now... don't worry abt being pestered again!! KnowledgeHegemonyPart2 (talk) 15:39, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

Johnson Creek

Thank you very much for your support and also for the tip about Google Earth and Acme Mapper. I had not thought of finding the elevation in this way. Since the GNIS didn't give the elevation directly, I resorted to using the GNIS elevation for Cottrell, as you saw. Plugging the creek source coordinates into Google Earth is much better. I had never downloaded Google Earth until this evening. It's awesome. Finetooth (talk) 04:01, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

You'd never tried Google Earth? Uh oh, I fear we're about to lose a productive editor to the most addictive program in existence! (If anybody tells you about a built-in flight simulator program, uh, pay them no mind...these rumors are unsubstantiated, etc....) Oh, and whatever you do, don't turn on the 3-D buildings option. Nothing to see here, move along...now get back to editing! ;) -Pete (talk) 05:31, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
I went out to run errands, and when I came back I saw the dot map. It's terrific, just what was needed. I hadn't seen the Pennsylvania Canal article, and I'm pleased to learn that Wild Man's Lock was at Larrys Creek. Finetooth (talk) 21:35, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
Very glad you boldly added the map. I was unsure of the whereabouts of the Oregon locator map. Finetooth (talk) 00:26, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

Jainism Articles peer review:Anekantavada

Hi I have made changes/edits as suggested by you in your peer review. Thanks, article seems to be much better. Maybe you can once again review it for further improvements. I wonder how it compares with other featured articles ? Is it a featured article candidate. Thanks.--Anish (talk) 12:28, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

RE: Peer Review of London

Hi there,

I have replied to the comments that you left for the PR on London. Thanks for you comments, please could you reply? :D

Thanks,

The Helpful One (Review) 22:21, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

Hi again!
I have completed all of the points that you have set, can you confirm that everything is OK now?
Thanks, The Helpful One (Review) 12:42, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
I saw you at the PR - I guess that means everything's OK now? The Helpful One (Review) 17:27, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
OK :) The Helpful One (Review) 20:49, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

Peer review request

Wikipedia:Peer review/Synthesizer/archive1. If you've got time. Thanks! — Wackymacs (talk) 09:12, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

Timeline of prehistoric Scotland

File:Neanderthal 2D.jpg The WikiProject Scotland Award of Excellence
This award is given with many thanks to Ruhrfisch for assistance in helping Timeline of prehistoric Scotland to become a Featured List from Ben MacDui, 4 May 2008.

Could you go to Talk:Naperville, Illinois, and then to the population. We are discussing the population, and I have posted back the official 2000 population. Thanks for any insight that you would have.--Kranar drogin (talk) 22:47, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

Welcome message, please

Could you send your welcome message to Amd194 (my brother) please? He has been on wiki just a little bit, but seems to be showing more of an interest. I am still taking it easy on wiki. Might not be very busy for at least a week. Hope all is well. Dincher (talk) 22:50, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

The welcome message thingy that you added to this page is the one I mean. It is hot, hot, hot here. I can't seem to think very well. Dincher (talk) 23:15, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for the welcome. I am going to see if I can work the welcome message. Dincher (talk) 23:27, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for the template. I just welcomed somebody! And it worked. Dincher (talk) 23:59, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

Since the Rambler's away till Sunday, will you review this again? I've had it on the FLC list for quite some time. Owing much to my work on the new Bellflower Encyclopedia, sorry for the delay. --Slgrandson (How's my egg-throwing coleslaw?) 02:55, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

I've now considered it for RFC, but you can still comment on what needs to be done. --Slgrandson (How's my egg-throwing coleslaw?) 04:22, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Please take a look again, and see my replies on the PR page. Thanks! — Wackymacs (talk) 19:28, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

Johnson Creek FA

Dear Ruhrfisch, I want to thank you most especially for helping with the Johnson Creek article, which made FA a little while ago. Without your expert advice and your excellent creek articles, I don't think it would have gotten this far. Finetooth (talk) 02:32, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

And I thank you for the barn star. That makes two stars (one for the creek and one for me) in the same day. Finetooth (talk) 16:31, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

Lack of activity

Hey Ruhrfisch, sorry to be so inactive at PR lately. A few things have got a little personal here, my off-wiki life has been a little more complex than normal and now I'm off for a few days, essentially 100% off-wiki. I'll do my best to get back into it. There's a chat going on about getting a featured list director (or two) and I'm in the running - first thing I'm going to do if "elected" is recommend lists go through PR now you've set up such a successful backlog solution. I think, in the past, lists weren't really bothered with at PR, I had a few which were just ignored for a week, but now it's different, it'll help the WP:FLC process since it's become something of a PR/Featured content hybrid lately. Anyway, all the best to you, keep up your great work, more soon. The Rambling Man (talk) 16:36, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

The planning for the summer Philadelphia meetup has begun. We would appreciate your input.
You're getting this invitation because you're on Wikipedia:WikiProject Philadelphia/Philadelphia meet-up invite list. BrownBot (talk) 21:46, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

State Park Plans

Sure we can work on Colton Point and Leonard Harrison next. Might as well get the map prepped. Are you ready to ramp up the efforts on Worlds End? I will have lots of time at "work" this weekend. This mini break has been nice, but I am starting to get the itch. Dincher (talk) 02:25, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

The plans sound good to me. Dincher (talk) 19:49, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
Glad to know they have flush toilets at Worlds End. =) I remember the bad old days at the state parks when didn't have such fanciness. Off to WESP! Dincher (talk) 13:45, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

I have the NRHP report in pdf to add to Worlds End and I found this info about church services at park. Do you think that it is relevant? Dincher (talk) 16:17, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

Okay, I added the church stuff. There is more I could add about the NRHP stuff, but don't know if I should, Black Mo was "too much like a brochure" according to some. I don't know if the details about the cabins will be wanted or not. I plan on leaving it be until PR or FAC, if somebody asks for more we can always give them more. I don't think that there is enough info for a "daughter" article, since there is just one historic district instead of three like Black Mo. Have a good one. Dincher (talk) 16:22, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
The latest additions look good. I must say that I am quite impressed with the refs to the New York Times from the 60s. I can't get the date to show up in ref 20. Don't know if this is a big deal or not. Dincher (talk) 20:53, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

Citing Dissertations

Thank you for looking it up, Ruhrfisch. I have tried to do a dissertation citation by using the cite book template and it seems to come out with something similar. When you have a moment, please have a look at the references of the Homicidal ideation page and let me know if it's okay like that. Cheers! Orinoco-w (talk) 08:02, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

Redesign of peer review - would you help?

The trouble today with peer review is just the latest in a string of irritations there. And the bug with the post-expand limit doesn't seem likely to be fixed soon. So I think that it's worthwhile to redesign the PR process to fix both the technical issues and take the load off of you. I can help by writing bot code, which is actually much easier than coming up with an optimal process.

Would you be willing to help design a process for PR that is both easy for nominators and easy for archivers like you? The redesign can also fix any difficulties in listing semi-autmated reviews. I can handle the technical aspects, but I don't have any experience with PR, so I want to find some people who know how it works to help design the process. — Carl (CBM · talk) 22:24, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

Hey! Nice to bump into you again! Thanks for taking a second look at Pied-Noir. This was that first major article that I worked on here on en-wiki, so a lot of it was completed before I even knew the MOS existed (ahh, the innocence). Anyway, thanks for looking at it and I'm going to continue to hack away at it. Hehe... Lazulilasher (talk) 19:13, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

Oh ya, thanks for Louvre, also. On that article I had the benefit of Finetooth cleaning up after me...haha Lazulilasher (talk) 19:14, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

Your comments at Civil Air Patrol's Peer Review

Hi! I made several changes to Civil Air Patrol (summarized: diff) to address the comments that you made at its peer review. Please look it over and see if I have properly addressed these suggestions. Thanks! :) —  scetoaux (T|C) 04:23, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

I made changes in response to your second look at the article. —  scetoaux (T|C) 00:20, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

Congratulations on your recent WP:FL. In case you do not know, we are running an experiment to choose the List of the Month and Lists of the Day for June. Feel free to nominate your list at User:TonyTheTiger/List of the Day/Nominees/200807 for consideration next month to be the July LOTM or a LOTD. If you would like to support this experiment the most important thing you can do is come by and vote at User:TonyTheTiger/List of the Day/voting/200806. My talk page is always open.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 05:14, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

When you have the time, of course. Thanks! — Wackymacs (talk) 11:16, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

Please review this again, several changes made. Thanks! — Wackymacs (talk ~ edits) 21:08, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

Elias Porter Peer Review

Thanks so much for your feedback and suggestions. I really appreciate it and will act on it next week (travelling on business this week). Tscud (talk) 14:45, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

Hi Ruhrfisch... How are things going? I see that you archived the peer review for William, but I haven't actually finished responding to it. Does it make sense to unarchive it? Or I guess I could transfer the remaining points to the talkpage, if that is too complicated etc for some reason.--Slp1 (talk) 14:58, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for restoring the archive and also for the preliminary vote of confidence. Much appreciated! --Slp1 (talk) 00:26, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

Worlds End State Park

I also do not find anything that says the races have ended, but it seems like they might have. Barring a WP:RS though I am not sure how to include this in the article.

They might not have ended. If the water has been low and I think it has, the races have probably not been held. Just an idea. I will look into it. Dincher (talk) 21:13, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

I also note that in Black Mo, we included the 20 Must See parks in the History section. Here it is in Recreation. I actually found that the 20 must see parks first went on the web in 2004 here. Do you think I should move this?

It probably should be moved. Dincher (talk) 21:13, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
Moved it. Dincher (talk) 21:19, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

I also combined Horse trails and Lumber era as the Horse trails was only one paragraph long - does this seem OK?

No problem. Dincher (talk) 21:13, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

I kind of worry that the services are held elsewhere in case of rain may be seen as too brochure-y, but we can wait for Peer Review comments if you want.

consider it fixed. Dincher (talk) 21:13, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

Finally, I note that the structure of Black Mo after History (2 Geology and climate, 3 Ecology, 4 Recreation) is much different than that of Worlds End (3 Natural history, 3.1 Wildlife, 3.2 Geology and fossils, 4 Recreation). I will work on Geology and climate next - what do you think of making a section on that, followed by an ecology section with plats and animals?

Go for it. Dincher (talk) 21:13, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
I won't be on wiki much this weekend. Have at it! I wonder how many other PA state parks are IBAs? Dincher (talk) 13:47, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

That's alot of important birds. Most of the towns around here are "Bird Sanctuaries". So it says on the welcome to town signs. Hope Mills city limits. "Bird Sanctuary". Hang tough! Dincher (talk) 18:07, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

We can take it to PR whenever you want. I thought you might want to wait on the bridge and get it through FAC first, but that's your call. Dincher (talk) 01:40, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

The PR request is in. I am not sure if I have done it correctly or not. I think it is. Dincher (talk) 19:55, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
All I can say about the Buttonwood and other bridge is to go for it. Can't hurt to try. I am looking forward to the hook. I will look at the lead at WESP. Maybe simpler is better? I am sure we'll hear one way or the other in PR. Dincher (talk) 22:17, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

I like the idea for the DYK. Off to check the PR. Dincher (talk) 20:03, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

I forgot to put {{doing}} on this peer review and I got into an edit conflict. Sorry for any confusion/troubles but I've added some comments to the peer review. « Milk's Favorite Cookie ( talk / contribs) 01:17, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Glad to help. I was just reviewing this, and the article does not look like a good article. It's missing citations in several places, several refs aren't properly formatted, and there are other issues. What do you think? Thanks, « Milk's Favorite Cookie ( talk / contribs) 02:01, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Peer review of Ubuntu Linux

Thank you for your review of the article. I have a few comments that I'd like you to see.

In it, you said this: "I still have only a vague notion of what Ubuntu does and how it is different from a Mac or Windows OS."

There isn't much that difference, other than that it is supported by a community and has no cost.

On relying on ubuntu as a source, isn't that the best place to get information? There are also numerous citing of articles it has appeared in, but I'd think it would be understandable that a majority of its citations are from Canonical and related groups.

Thanks again, ffm 16:21, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

I'm contacting you about this because you are a member of WikiProject Pennsylvania. I have proposed that Manayunk, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania be moved to Manayunk; details can be found on the former's talk page. I am not a sysop, so I can't make the move myself. I would appreciate it if you'd take a look at it. Skiasaurus (skē’ ə sôr’ əs) 17:24, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks!

Apologies for the delayed response to your peer review of polyclonal response. I have posted my reply on the peer review page. Thanks for your review. By the way, I'd also nominated the article in "good articles" status, where it has been put on hold. You could, of course, if you find time, visit the article again, and add further comments. Thanks for your valuable time. Take care. Regards.Ketan Panchal, MBBS (talk) 18:43, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Pied-noir problems

User Mauvaisegraine insists on inserting his comments on the origin of the term "pied-noir" into the article. I have tried explaining that these points should first be discussed with the main editor, and have removed them to the peer review page to faciltate this. He does not engage with what I am saying (see review page), and simply re-instates his stuff in the article, thereby sabotaging it. The tone of his comments to me make me think he is beyond reason, but perhaps if someone else talked to him? I have asked User:Lazulilasher to look at the review page and see if the matter can be resolved. Brianboulton (talk) 22:30, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Cogan House Covered Bridge

There is something amiss with the refs at the bridge. I tried to fix it but couldn't. I am going to give it a read now. Dincher (talk) 23:14, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

It looks pretty good. The map says English Center and the text says English Centre. Is this on purpose? Also, this is one of those places that like my high school English teacher said, "you can't get there from here." But how do you get to it? I don't know if this is important for the article or not. I guess I am looking for the closest state route. Dincher (talk) 23:22, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for adding how to get to it. Hopefully someday I'll cast my eyes upon it. What is scenic? This might be too "brochurey" and I think of Green Acres and Oliver and Lisa's opinions about the country side. And about the bridge traffic. Is the study one way or both ways across the bridge? Dincher (talk) 21:57, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

I am looking at it right now. I am going to try to look very carefully and let you know what I think. Thanks for the more specific directions. That's pretty much where I thought it was. Dincher (talk) 19:37, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

The history of the grand jury would be interesting too, but that's a whole other bowl of pudding. I recall seeing the this bridge on the covered bridge awhile back. That's pretty cool. Dincher (talk) 21:49, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
I would wait and see. I am in favor of keeping the names and the details. I don't see what they hurt. Looking forward to the WESP geology section. Dincher (talk) 00:54, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
Good luck witht the upcoming FAC. Thanks for fixing WESP! Dincher (talk) 20:12, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

Solar energy

Thanks for the review. I'll work through your suggestions.Mrshaba (talk) 06:12, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

The ref number 15 and 16 are displaying cite error. Can you please fix it? Otolemur crassicaudatus (talk) 12:55, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

Like a Rolling Stone PR

Sorry. That was my review, but I did it with your javascript program. Accidentally, I reviewed the talk page, and that's why I blanked the PR page. I fixed it. Thanks. Hope there's no problem. Cheers, Kodster (You talkin' to me?) (Stuff I messed up) 22:14, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

Also, would you mind doing a non-semi-automatic peer review of Like a Rolling Stone. I think it'd be really useful, because I'm kind of at a fix content-wise. Thanks. Cheers, Kodster (You talkin' to me?) (Stuff I messed up) 00:35, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for all your help with the article. Would you mind checking it over again, I fixed most of the things that you said, but suggestions would be appreciated. I'm not ready to bring it to GAN just yet, but I would like it if you look it over again. Thanks. Cheers, Kodster (heLLo) (Me did that) 01:37, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
I will take another look at it in the next few days. Ruhrfisch ><>°° 02:58, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
Okay. Next time, could you please answer on your talk page as the message box says? Thanks. Cheers, Kodster (heLLo) (Me did that) 14:30, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
I moved your comment to this page. Cheers, Kodster (heLLo) (Me did that) 14:32, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
I see and will try to remember to answer here. As long as we are going into talk page preferences, I prefer my talk page entries stay in chronlogical order and am moving this thread back where it belongs. Cheers, Ruhrfisch ><>°° 14:35, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks

Sorry about that. I wasn't sure how to archive the peer review, or if I should. —  scetoaux (T|C) 02:20, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

Dang

The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
This barnstar is for Ruhrfisch who seems to be taking on the entire Peer Review page by himself. However, this is more because he is cheerfully and thoroughly reviewing all the articles I've put there relating to the Everglades. Thank you. Moni3 (talk) 15:59, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

In no way should this color your review in my favor. I'm just amazed and very, very grateful. --Moni3 (talk) 15:59, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

RFA Thanks

Thanks for your support at my recent Request for adminship. I hope you find I live up to your expectations, and I'll look forward to working on more peer reviews with you. Best, Risker (talk) 16:27, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

PR

Thanks for your review at Wikipedia:Peer review/List of Brigham Young University alumni/archive1. I left one follow-up question to one of your suggestion--take a look when you get a chance. Thanks! --Eustress (talk) 16:46, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

Re: Robert Kennedy assassination

Well, I can try, but I was hoping to let the article have its peer review and then review the article. But, I can help out with the PR. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 00:51, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

Interesting, but I can sorta help too, if that's what your asking. Also, I did see something about this in the History Channel, so maybe I can help out. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 01:00, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
Alright, I'll help out too. By any chance, are you a GA reviewer? --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 01:32, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
Awesome, do you think I can get your help with Mr. Freeze, for a peer review low-down? --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 01:39, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
Cool, I'll try to give some feedback for the article. What I mean for Mr. Freeze's article, is that I'll add it for a peer review right now and I was wondering if I can get some info. on what the article needs to do to become a GA. I hope I made sense. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 00:39, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
Thanks and don't worry about getting to it in a couple of days, I know you work with the whole PR system. Question: In the Joker PR, you mention the fact that there are bullets, the last section of the article, do you want the bullets removed or... --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 01:19, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
Yeah, it makes sense. I did remove the bullets one time, but another user re-added them, stating that they read more "clearer" in the article. Do you think it might be a good idea adding Joker's article to the copy-editing place? --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 01:52, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
Well, I'll see what I can do with the bullet situation. Alright, I'll do the copy-editing thing. Question: Can I do it during the PR process or do I have to wait until the PR is archived? --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 02:06, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
Alright, I'll see what happens, if not, I'll just ask someone at the PR/R list place. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 02:23, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for the support. ;) Question: I know that in the infobox for Mr. Freezes' article says "Mister Freeze", my question to you, shouldn't it be "Mr. Freeze" instead? --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 20:07, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Well, I've read comics and they refer to him as "Mr. Freeze". So, I'll change that and hopefully see that there's no edit wars in the future. Also, the reason I bring it up is cause its stated here and I wanted your opinion on it. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 20:59, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Bridge in Plunkett's Creek Township

Hi, got your question about Bridge in Plunkett's Creek Township. It seems likely the NRHP bridge is the same as the HAER bridge, but with detailed description available from HAER but not NRHP it is impossible to tell. I take it there is no Pennsylvania state copy on-line of the NRHP forms, because you would have found that already. Certainly, ask the Feds ( nr_reference (at) nps.gov ) for a copy of the file on it. I think they should have it still. For National Historic Landmarks that are de-designated, the Feds keep a webpage sometimes including a photo of the demolished house or whatever. For other NRHPs, i think they should at least keep the file, and the documentation that the structure was destroyed.

By the way, the wikipedia list of bridges in PA page was created by NE2, with some consultation from Elkman, and is effectively a report from a big download from the NRIS system. The other page you found, at NationalRegisterofHistoricPlaces.Com, is also a report from the same system. So those two sources are not independent, they are pretty much the same. The wikipedia page was formed with more care, I expect, as Elkman has had plenty of experience downloading and re-visiting the NRIS data, often to answer questions. The NRHP.COM website was a one-off download, that does not allow for any feedback process, and appears to be a commercial site living off some advertising of bed & breakfast inns in each area. So, I would more trust NE2 and Elkman's identification that the site was delisted, rather than added, in 2002. But, still verify by your own search of NRIS and especially by requesting the documents.

Hope this helps. cheers, doncram (talk) 01:48, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

RfA thank-spam

Ruhrfisch/Archive13, just a note of appreciation for your recent support of my request for adminship, which ended successfully with 112 supports, 2 opposes, and 1 neutral. If there's something I've realized during my RFA process this last week, it's that adminship is primarily about trust. I will strive to honour that trust in my future interactions with the community. Many thanks! Gatoclass (talk) 06:26, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks Ruhrfisch! Much appreciated from a guy whose integrity I respect. Gatoclass (talk) 06:58, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

PeerReviewBot linking to semiauto peer reviews

I have written some code to make the linking to semi-automated peer reviews work by itself; please see Wikipedia:Bots/Requests_for_approval/PeerReviewBot_2.

At the moment, this will still require you to create them by hand and copy them to the appropriate page. When you create them (I have never run the script), do you try to filter the results yourself, or just include all the results that the script generates? I don't mind trying to make my bot generate the semiautomated reviews, but I only want to do that if it can be completely automatic; I don't have your patience to review them all myself. — Carl (CBM · talk) 14:42, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

I think the auto linking part will be approved pretty quickly. Unfortunately, I don't have any way to automatically run the javascript peer review script. The two options there are for you (or some other volunteer) to create them by hand, or to rework the automated peer review code in a language that I can run automatically. I don't know which of those is the right thing to do. If the code were redone in another language, I could make a script on the toolserver so that users could run it on any article at any time. Please let me know your thoughts on this. — Carl (CBM · talk) 21:28, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks a lot for your thorough review. There was only one point I disagreed with and so haven't acted on, but the whole thing was very clear and I have made the other adjustments, especially with regard to references and a few MOS points that I'd missed! Cheers again Fritzpoll (talk) 15:29, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

PR blitz

Hey Ruhrfisch, hope all is well with you. Sorry for being "out of the loop" for a while (my second apology in a row methinks!), but something occurred to me when I saw the current PR backlog, which was perhaps to restrict the number of active PRs initiated by one editor to one at a time? FAC seem to do this, and it's so easy for folks to come in and ask for a PR on Windows, Linux, Adobe, Flash player etc etc in ten minutes and then there's an instant backlog since the articles are hardly short. How'd you feel about instigating an embargo on those who already have an existing PR? The Rambling Man (talk) 16:56, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Hey, good to hear from you. Yeah, perhaps it's restrictive. Not sure but usually the PR is a precursor to FAC/FLC so maybe restrictions are ok? I think your idea of preventing more than one a day is a good start, it'd stop the drive-by "I want to get every state of the US peer reviewed" - why? "Because I think it needs reviewing" kind of thing. There's a good reason - mostly we'll end up saying exactly the same thing in each review (like I've just done in all those Linux/Windows/Adobe reviews) so that's a way of explaining it, if required. Anyway, enough of my rambling. All the best, The Rambling Man (talk) 18:07, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

It would be much appreciated if you could give any comments in peer review Wikipedia:Peer review/Meridian, Mississippi/archive1. He currently seems to need some direction on how to prepare a map of historic districts in Meridian. It's dudemanfellabra's first peer review, he has been doing a great job on several things for WP:NRHP, is very resourceful and quick. doncram (talk) 00:03, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

I was about to add a new section when I saw this one in the TOC. I hope you don't mind if I just tack on to the end of this since it deals with the same subject anyways. Do you think there's any way you can run the peer review script on Meridian, Mississippi again? (I noticed in other places that you sometimes run it) I've tried my best to take care of everything that the first one told me to do. If you're interested enough/have the time, any other comments on the article would be helpful as well; I'm getting ready to put it up for GA. Thanks! --Dudemanfellabra (talk) 21:08, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

Thank you

Thank you for taking the time to review my articles on Troubled Island and A Bayou Legend. Ecoleetage (talk) 02:58, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

I have a happy update: Troubled Island just received Did You Know? recognition! A Bayou Legend received that recognition last week. Ecoleetage (talk) 01:50, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

Another map

I mentioned a couple of months ago that I was thinking of another map that I might ask if you could do for me similar to the one you did at Image:June 1 1794 Order of Battle Map.png. I have been away for a month or so, but I'm now back and have created a very poor map using microsoft paint for Battle of Lissa (1811). Would you be able to do something with it if I emailed it to you? If not don't worry, and all the best.--Jackyd101 (talk) 16:58, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks err...

Thanks for going over the work I did on Here Come the Warm Jets! Err..looking at your other comments I seem to have joined the bandwagon of thanks, but either way..thanks! Andrzejbanas (talk) 17:00, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

The War of Northern Aggression

Thank you for replacing links to The War of Northern Aggression with American Civil War. However, I am still concerned as Bedford, an administrator, was the one that perpetrated these links to begin with and even now insists that doing so was not incorrect. I fear that this belief will guide future choices and edits and cause further harm. Is there a means by which I can seek out someone in authority to explain to him that this is not appropriate? The user who had the most influence over me becoming an editor and staying around has left in disgust over this issue (and his contributions speak for themselves). I don't want to see actions of the type Bedford employed alienate others. Broooooooce (talk) 15:29, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Somehow missed your comment on Ivo's page, you already know most of this. Sorry for the repetition. Broooooooce (talk) 15:33, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
I am also much more concerned with the WP:NPOV aspect of it, Ivo leaving (again) was just what led me to notice what Bedford was doing. Thanks for the reply! I'll wait and should it happen again seek a RfC. I hope it doesn't ever come to that, all could be easily solved if he would simply assure that he understood what I was saying. Broooooooce (talk) 16:16, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

I have seen a lot of this whole The War of Northern Aggression. I guess if I was a self-proclaimed Unionist (which Bedford is a Confederate on here and his MySpace), I would write my articles using terms such as the War of the Insurrection or the Great Rebellion. Which are both VERY POV, and I know it. I just wouldn't put it into my article which this guy seems to be doing. I just figured I would point this out.--Kranar drogin (talk) 03:34, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

No problem, its a very good article.--Jackyd101 (talk) 16:59, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

I just know the usual suspects to ask, Dtborher, Dan, etc., Want me to ask? Dincher (talk) 14:37, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
Okay. I will look back at Black Mo and ask the peer reviewers there. I just added some interesting stuff to Yellow Creek State Park. If you can think of a better title, please go ahead and make the change. The title I have seems to be too much like a brochure. Dincher (talk) 14:46, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

I asked Dan, Yellowsubmarine, Ben from Scotland and Dtbohrer. Rambiling Man is rambling off in Namibia. Dincher (talk) 14:56, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

I don't understand any possible problem with the trail or Taber refs. I took a quick look and the Taber ref isn't necessarily needed. It follows another ref at the end of a paragraph. But the trail, what could possibly be wrong with it? I don't know how to tell someone that it is reliable. Dincher (talk) 02:36, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

All the pics are terrific. I fixed one spelling error in a caption. Dincher (talk) 17:19, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

Rivers/Creeks

Hey, I see that you are part of the Rivers project. I don't know exactly what you are working on right now, but I have two I would really like to see get to GA, but I am not good at writing articles like this. The Rock River is one, and the other is Stillman Creek (Which Ivo started up nicely). I can provide pictures no problem on them both, like Stillman Creek and The Rock River. Let me know if you are interested or not. Thanks guy.--Kranar drogin (talk) 03:57, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

That sounds great. Anything you need as far as pics, let me know and I will see what I can do.--Kranar drogin (talk) 14:18, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
A Stillman Creek Watershed Association? What is that exactly? I have never heard of such a thing, but maybe that is something that might have been set up by the village....or the cattle!--Kranar drogin (talk) 14:35, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

Illinois Protected areas

Just wanted to let you know, since you did all the dots, that there isn't a locator dot for Fults Hill Prairie State Natural Area. I just happened to notice it as I was going through the articles.--Kranar drogin (talk) 14:17, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

And I think I found another one here that has been written up, Crab Orchard National Wildlife Refuge, but I really don't know much about it at all.--Kranar drogin (talk) 14:23, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
I also found that I didn't do up a map for White Pines Forest State Park, and I don't think it was added to that map you did. I am wondering, were we adding state parks? I think we were, but now I can't remember. Guess I should have looked.--Kranar drogin (talk) 14:57, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

I am working on List of protected areas of Illinois and can't really decided what to do with Hennepin Canal Parkway State Park. Its 75 miles in length, following the canal. Should I convert this into acres and then add it in the acres section? How have you guys been going about it? Thanks for any insite here.--Kranar drogin (talk) 19:58, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

Found another without a map dot: Lincoln Trail Homestead State Memorial. Hope you don't mind I keep this running total here, then I can add infoboxes once I am done fixing up that list if you don't beat me to it. The List:

Thanks guy.--Kranar drogin (talk) 21:00, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks...

for the vote of confidence, kind comments and congratulations. I will certainly take your advice about the new admin school. It all seems a bit scary at the moment and way to easy to do some serious damage!! I think I'll take it slow!--Slp1 (talk) 19:06, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

Hi Ruhrfisch. You currently have yourself listed as a participant in the Pennsylvania WikiProject. If you are still active in the project then ignore this message. However if you are busy or no longer wish to be involved, please remove yourself from the list so we can get an updated count on the number of active members. Thank you! Monobi (talk) 19:40, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

thanks

Thanks Ruhr. I'm just too mean for Wikipedia, taking a break again, I'll be about though, sorry to put you in a position like this as far as with Bedford. IvoShandor (talk) 22:40, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

Also I mentioned this to Brooooce but I'm a bit concerned because apparently the name of the game is poisoning the well and ad hominem attacks. I guess everything I say must be false, cuz I'm just crazy Ivo who blows his top and leaves every 6 months. Nevermind the fact of my actual contribution history and defense of the project and key policies in the past. Is that how things really work when this kind of thing is going on? If you need me, I'll check my page daily if there is some sort of action taken, and I'll try to keep the rants to a minimum. IvoShandor (talk) 22:48, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
I just get too ticked, it affects my interactions. Then all it takes is for someone to call me a fool or some other name, and I tend to snap where its unwarranted. I guess I'm only civil if folks are civil to me. Thanks again for your help, it's not that big of deal as long as Bedford isn't edit warring over it, which he said he doesn't. His contributions are decent otherwise, the fact that my opinion doesn't matter to him because "I blow my top" is more disturbing than the POV. A guy with PhD qualifications uses logical fallacies to win arguements? Doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me. I barely made it through undergrad work and I don't use logical fallacies, at least not around here.IvoShandor (talk) 13:59, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

Just to inform you

Since you peer reviewed it, I thought I should inform you about 2008 attacks on North Indians in Maharashtra being nominated at WP:GAC. Any more suggestions?? - KnowledgeHegemonyPart2 (talk) 23:46, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

I have been using your FL to compare with List of protected areas of Illinois for ideas and whatnot, and one statement on your list caught my eye. That Pennsylvania has the third most in acres for state parks? How new is that statement? I am going through many of these for Illinois, and they are huge. Is there a list somewhere that lists out each state? According to the Illinois DNR site, all these other protected areas are state parks. I would like to know where Illinois ranks for the rest of the country.--Kranar drogin (talk) 06:45, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

No worries, I was just looking for info on a state-by-state comparison. I figured states on the west coast had larger state parks then those in central or eastern US. That was all the reason I was looking for some sort of list. Not trying to degrade Pennsylvania's park system, which seems to be very extensive.--Kranar drogin (talk) 14:02, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks to your thorough peer review, this article is now a FA. I Hope you are around for other PR's I have planned.Dineshkannambadi (talk) 01:53, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

Francis Bok

I might be needing some help with Francis Bok again. The sources are being questioned. Same user as before. Dincher (talk) 15:09, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks a million! Dincher (talk) 15:13, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

Thank you

The Surreal Barnstar
For showing uncanny dedication to improving articles without expecting anything in return. Eustress (talk) 02:10, 27 May 2008 (UTC)


I'm not sure how it slipped by me, but I just became aware of your PR of Marriott School of Management—very thorough and helpful. Thanks for all you do! --Eustress (talk) 02:10, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

It was a mishap

I thought I had deleted the previous comment which I had typed before my connection went off!! - KnowledgeHegemonyPart2 (talk) 13:22, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

Sorry dude may be because me your FAC may have got delayed. From now on I will start using the preview and show changes buttons...I was shocked to see this mistake! - KnowledgeHegemonyPart2 (talk) 13:38, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
Hahaha, I didn't recheck my last comment again!
dude may be because of me your FAC and other sentence construction mistakes like repitition of the word may

Some people never change....- KnowledgeHegemonyPart2 (talk) 13:59, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

It doesn't make him eligible to be in the category either as a real Muslim who turned to Christianity or as someone who is outspoken about his religious views and Muslim past. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.216.117.14 (talk) 17:38, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

The category is intended for people who put great emphasis on their Muslim past and their "finding of Jesus Christ". 63.216.117.14 (talk) 17:47, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

Peer review

Thanks for the note, but I have exams right now and don't have the time to spare for even one a week... I'll take a look when they're over though (in ~three weeks). naerii - talk 21:22, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

Goodness, my watchlist is lighting up all over town with wonderful notices to get peer review moving :-) Nice work ! I wish I could be more helpful at PR; I used to try to do one a day, but I no longer have time, and fear that now it puts me in a conflicted position when they show up at FAC, but just wanted to say, nice job ! SandyGeorgia (Talk) 21:33, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
Heh, I never knew how many user talk pages I had on my watchlist. Anyway, I just reviewed one from the backlog page, so I'll try to take a stab at one every couple of days. Thanks for the heads-up, and thanks for flooding my watchlist. ;) Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 21:40, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
In response to your note on my talk page, please consider the following: 1) not every editor that requests a peer review can give a good peer review - review is often a process where experienced editors review articles by inexperienced editors. 2) I review requests that I am knowledgeable about, and I think that it would be counter productive to trade quality for quantity in this case: one reviewer looking over many articles he or she knows little about. Peer review is not requests for copyediting. 3) The problem with peer reviews is not one person requesting many peer reviews, but rather a consistent lack of qualified reviewers and a consistent surplus of article editors with limited knowledge. User:Krator (t c) 23:05, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
Ditto on "nice job." Your ideas are a novelty, and I hope that they are well-accepted by the rest of the community. My sincerest apologies also for not being able to edit much recently; guilt is adding up in my stomach by the day. :-) --LaPianista! 23:17, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
If I tried to do three or four PRs a day, I would have to be wheeled off in a cart on Day 2. I will keeping plugging away, though, at some modest level. Finetooth (talk) 23:49, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
I also thank you for spearheading this effort. I must say that a three-day backlog doesn't strike me as blindingly urgent, though. The oldest GA nom is from 19 April, and if anything PR seems like a more intensive process. If I had time to pitch in to relieve a backlog (which I don't, alas, since I'm busy with school and requests from individuals), I don't know if I'd put PR first. Maybe there's something I'm overlooking. Anyway, thanks for all your work. – Scartol • Tok 00:27, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

Peer review question

Is this from York a semi automated peer review that you've been doing? If it is, it is something I can start doing, sometimes, if needed. Dincher (talk) 23:20, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

Moved it to my sandbox. Dincher (talk) 23:27, 27 May 2008 (UTC)