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Advertisement isn't a speedy criterion, unfortunately, but please delete this misuse of Wikipedia soonest. Bishonen | talk 18:21, 1 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Ad. DV8 2XL 18:41, 1 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Delete as above. Al 18:48, September 1, 2005 (UTC)
Delete. ~~Advertisement (for~~ a newly released software product, so I'm doubtful about notability too). Sliggy 18:49, September 1, 2005 (UTC)

I'm still not convinced of this software's current notability; Wikipedia is not a crystal ball for the future. Stand by my vote. Sliggy 14:49, September 2, 2005 (UTC)

KEEP this article - if you want to delete this new article about the Successor to Mambo_(CMS), you have to delete this article too: Mambo_(CMS) !!!
So there is no "misuse" of Wikipedia. Joomla! is an Open Source and community based project. Many former Mambo-Users announced to follow the Core Developer Team to Joomla!
- You're right, that one's advertising as well, thanks for pointing it out. I'll nominate it. Bishonen | talk 21:56, 1 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  - what is going on here? Do you want to delete every article about Open Source software? Than continue with typo3, drupal, etc. - Sorry, but I don't understand it: Why don't you IMPROVE these articles instead of deleting everthing you don't like?????? --Opi27 22:18, 1 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
    - Because we still have a little sense of dignity left. We still want to be taken seriously by more than just Internet anarchists. / Peter ^Isotalo 23:13, 1 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
      - And I don't understand why people would post promotespeak into an encyclopedia and expect others to clean it up. Hmm, Typo3 and Drupal, you say? Checking it out. Bishonen | talk 23:21, 1 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
        Oh yeah, go ahead, nominate all of them! There's also this little proggie called Mediawiki that is being promoted on Wikipedia and the authors are getting money off it - especially due to its exposure through Wikipedia. Go ahead, nominate that too! Completely freaking shiver-inducing, that! --Wwwwolf 23:43, 1 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - Not Wiki-worthy enough... UniReb 21:33, 1 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy delete. Why are we even voting about this? / Peter ^Isotalo 21:55, 1 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Because nn-bio is a CSD criterion. nn-company isn't. I wish it were. Tonywalton | Talk 22:06, 1 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  - What I mean is that speedy should be just a tad more flexible. / Peter ^Isotalo 22:14, 1 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
    - Foot! *stomp* Bullet! *tink* Gun! *clank* Aim! *gnnh* Fire! *BLAM* --Wwwwolf 22:54, 1 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, please, delete. Tonywalton | Talk 22:06, 1 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Comment still delete as non-notable, unless something is forthcoming to say why this is a particularly notable and "pretty damn important" Content Management System amongst all the others. Tonywalton | Talk 23:37, 1 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Look, the folks behind Mambo and Joomla have recently been through several, not very damn nice wars and fights and whatnot regarding the ownership of the Mambo code. (You could make a really informative article on those fights alone. Lots of interesting stuff.) Mambo's descentants (Mambo, Mambo's GPL version, and now this travestry) are being used on zillions of sites. There's no way to deny that. What they want to call that codebase any particular day, well, that's an issue that just has to wait. So, I would rather vote for merge to either this article or the other, or keep both. If people take the "kill them both, let God sort them out" attitude, that's a bit too harsh in my opinion. --Wwwwolf 23:50, 1 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Keep or Merge from Mambo (CMS). Mambo and its descentants are pretty damn important CMSes in this day and age. --Wwwwolf 22:54, 1 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per above. Dottore So 02:07, 2 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: Mambo is certainly a notable piece of open source software, and I expect its derivatives (particularly since this one has most/all of the dev team) will at some point be notable. I'm not convinced that it is currently. — Lomn | Talk / RfC 02:21:43, 2005-09-02 (UTC)
Keep! Never be to hasty: Joomla is new - But has a bigger community power than Mambo. You will not be able to work on this article, if you delete it. The article will just reapear and all work will be done twice - so why? Just wait two weeks and be patiant, please! --Sputnik(.de) 07:19, 2 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Keep! --Holmi 09:39, 2 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Or delete the entries on all of the wiki software, etc., etc., as well. 212.101.64.4 10:34, 2 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Keep And merge into Mambo, along with Joomla. This isn't a company advert. It's about a piece of software that happens to be free, open source, and widely used. Friday (talk) 13:29, 2 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, since it's been edited to something non-ad-like, and I have a soft spot in my heart for open-source stuff. It would be good to have something written about the "zillions" of sites this software supposedly supports, though. Fang Aili 14:07, 2 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Merge - The new content is a good improvement and looks encyclopedic, but the subject matter doesn't look notable. - CHAIRBOY 14:36, 2 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - I think if Wikipedia can have articles for 8 forks of PHP-Nuke, then it should have an article about a fork of Mambo. The forum at [Open Source Matters] has had 3211 members join in three weeks, so don't tell me Joomla! doesn't have a large number of people following. I think it is Wikipedia worthy. Furthermore, I don't see why the article should be deleted because it list features, XOOPS, PHP-Nuke, and E107 all list their features and those aren't candidates for deletion. I think this Bishonen just doesn't like Mambo or Joomla! because he nominated both of these articles for deletion, yet other open source CMS articles haven't been nominated for deletion. Shoffman11 19:18, September 2, 2005 (UTC)

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I edited this article to have it more encyclopdian - I hope this is an improvement to prevent deletion. I still can not understand, why you guys didn't try to improve it :-( --Opi27 22:32, 1 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

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 *'''Keep''', since it's been edited to something non-ad-like, and I have a soft spot in my heart for open-source stuff. It would be good to have something written about the "zillions" of sites this software supposedly supports, though. [[User:Fang Aili|Fang Aili]] 14:07, 2 September 2005 (UTC)
 *'''Merge''' - The new content is a good improvement and looks encyclopedic, but the subject matter doesn't look notable. - [[User:Chairboy|C<small>HAIRBOY</small>]] 14:36, 2 September 2005 (UTC)
+*'''Keep''' - I think if Wikipedia can have articles for 8 forks of [[PHP-Nuke]], then it should have an article about a fork of [[Mambo (CMS)|Mambo]].  The forum at [[http://forum.opensourcematters.org Open Source Matters]] has had 3211 members join in three weeks, so don't tell me Joomla! doesn't have a large number of people following.  I think it is Wikipedia worthy.  Furthermore, I don't see why the article should be deleted because it list features, [[XOOPS]], [[PHP-Nuke]], and [[E107 (software)|E107]] all list their features and those aren't candidates for deletion.  I think this [[User:Bishonen|Bishonen]] just doesn't like Mambo or Joomla! because he nominated both of these articles for deletion, yet other open source CMS articles haven't been nominated for deletion. [[User:Shoffman11|Shoffman11]] 19:18, September 2, 2005 (UTC)
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 '''I edited this article to have it more encyclopdian - I hope this is an improvement to prevent deletion.'''