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Welcome!

Hello, Gator1, and welcome to Wikipedia. Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are a few good links for newcomers:

I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! By the way, please be sure to sign your name on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~) to produce your name and the current date, or three tildes (~~~) for just your name. If you have any questions, you can post to the help desk or ask me on my talk page. Again, welcome! -- Francs2000 | Talk File:Uk flag large.png 19:38, 31 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Ragdoll

Sure, I'll help. Even better, I'll tell you how you can do it. There's nothing to it, really. First you need to come up with a name for the Ragdoll computer modell article. Let's call it Ragdoll (computer modell). Now you can just click on that red link and get to a blank page where you can cut and paste in the text from the Ragdoll article that you want moved there. In case you want to try doing it your self, I'll wait some minutes and give you time to try it out. If you don't feel like doing it, I can do it for you. But it's really easy.

To make the disamb link, you just edit the Ragdoll article, and put the following at the top:

{{dablink|This article is about the cat. For the computer modell, see [[Ragdoll (computer modell)]]}}

That's it. Shanes 21:22, 1 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

No problem. But actually, I misspelled model, in the link I gave you. Putting in an extra l at the end. That's what you get for taking advice from a Norwegian. I'll fix it by moving the article to the properly spelled name. Sorry about that. Shanes 21:37, 1 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

And there's one more thing. If you really want to do a good job when splitting an article like this, is making sure that articles with links to the original Ragdoll article are pointing to the right one. It's not a big deal, since people following a link to Ragdoll from a computer-related article, will see the disambig link on the top and click on it, but to save people a click, the perfect thing to do is to go through the various articles linking to Ragdoll (click on "what links here" in the toolbox to the left for a list when viewing the Ragdoll article). And then go through all the computer-related ones and change the links in them to point to Ragdoll (computer model) instead of to Ragdoll. But I'll do that myself now. Just FYI. Shanes 21:51, 1 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

YOU CAN BELIEVE ME

There are 4 people using this computer and 3 of the post on Wikipedea! What the hell am I supposed to do!? I am NOT a vandal! I thank you! (65.175.173.87 17:05, 3 September 2005 (UTC))[reply]

1) Use another computer

2)Find out which of the other 2 are doing it and kick his ass

3)Stop posting all together

Is it really everyone else's problem that you have to share a computer? I don't think so. Do you? Do you honestly think that Wikipedia shouldhave to put up with this because some people aren't vandals? The fact is that your computer is compromised, so it should be bocked until you can take care of this. Good luck, I don't envy you, but it really has to stop. Don't you agree?Gator1 17:10, September 3, 2005 (UTC)

Yeah I agree! listen here great news in fact, Gator I had just sent a text message from this computer to the primary account holder who uses the Wikipedea forum! She immediately called me since then and told me to change the password on her administrator section till we meet on monday! She and I will be the only persons using this system from here will be cathytrek or me!, and im getting a regular screen name in a min!, it will be Landru-Loki, and there will be no others after, and you have my word on that! but also at least this I know, the one troll/vandal we are sure of, will be getting the boot from this house here on tuesday next! in other words, no more trolls/vandals from this place, its gonna be locked down and password protected all the way! (65.175.173.87 17:26, 3 September 2005 (UTC))[reply]

And here I am! no more problems from our place as you shall see! (Landru-Loki 17:28, 3 September 2005 (UTC))[reply]

Question

Sorry about the tone, I had no intention of affending. Actually, the questions were not meant as mean, they all make sense if you look at them through your answer on my talk page. Consider them now: What do you have against the inclusion of Katrina material in the Hurricane Andrew article? Your answer was nothing, you support informational updates, just as long as they are not rumors and guesses. Do you just hate those of us who are updating the information? Your answer says no, you have compassion for the victims and want the end number of deaths compared to andrew as low as possible. Do you want the glory of the Katrina edits? Absolutley not, otherwise you answer on my talk page would have had one of those tones that suggested you already had a claim staked. Lastly, the question of whether you would rather we wait until after new years to update the information? This one would probably be a yes, beacause some news reports are estimating the amount of time it will take to get the city drained and the body count finalized will easily be into 2006.

When looked at like this, your answer says alot about you. Out of respect for those efected by Hurricane Katrina I will refrain from editting Andrew until our numbers - both lives lost and cost- firm up some. Again, I apologize if I came across as rude. Have a good day. TomStar81 19:38, 3 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

merging two articles

Sorry for my late reply. I've been busy with other stuff elsewhere this weekend. When you need quick help or response on things like this, the best place to ask is probably the Village pump, where lots of people are watching and answering questions like this all the time and all the week.

About your question. I see you've been bold and already gone through with the merge, which is fine, I guess. So this is just a late reply about how I would have gone about it.

I don't know anything about the subtle differences between Betta and Siamese Fighting Fish, but assuming they are the same, the prefered way of merging, is to pick one of the existing articles to merge the other content to. I see you chose a third brand new title, like we did when we split the cat-article. But in merging, sticking to one of the existing names is usually the best thing. For one, we then get to keep the talk-page and edit history of that article. Now finding the old talk-pages and edits are trickyer. Second, you save a redirect for other articles linking to that old page. And third, one of the original names are usually better. That's why they were chosen to begin with.

Then when you've desided on what article-title to keep and what to move, you add a Template:Mergeto tag in the article with the name you want to move the content from by typing, say {{mergeto|Siamese Fighting Fish}} on top of the Betta article. And then add a corresponding Template:Mergefrom in the other article, the one you want to keep the name of. Like this: {{mergefrom|Betta}} to the top of the Siamese Fighting Fish article. Then you write a short note on each talkpage with an explanation for your request. Like you did. And then you wait a few (3-4) days. Now you didn't wait very long before going through with the merge, and if it was an obvious one, it probably didn't matter. But usually it's best and more polite to give people watching the articles time to notice the request and comment on it. Just in case there were reasons for why they should be kept seperate. But asuming there were no objections after a few days, you could go ahead with the merge, and when finnished put a redirect on the article you merged from to the article you merged to.

You should also check for any double redirects after a merge like this. I see there are quite a few now after your merge. Example: If you go to the Climbing gourami article, you'll find a link to Siamese Fighting Fish near the bottom. But clicking that link, only brings you to the old Siamesee fighting fish, article that is now a redirect. And the reader will have to click again. This is because the Siamese Fighting Fish already had a redirect to Siamese fighting fish (low caps), and now that page is yet another redirect to the article you made. That's what is called a double redirect, and we try to avoid them. Use the "What links here" link in the toolbar to the left to find more.

Anyway, I don't think what you did was very bad or anything, and if there are people disagreeing strongly with what you did, I'm sure they'll let you know. ;-).

Hope this was educational. On Wikipedia:Community Portal you can find an endless amount of documentations and howto's and what not if you want to learn more about things like this. But please do ask me again if anything about anything is unclear. Or try the Village pump if you want to be make sure you get a timely response. Shanes 21:37, 4 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

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 I don't know anything about the subtle differences between Betta and Siamese Fighting Fish, but assuming they are the same, the prefered way of merging, is to pick one of the existing articles to merge the other content to. I see you chose a third brand new title, like we did when we split the cat-article. But in merging, sticking to one of the existing names is usually the best thing. For one, we then get to keep the talk-page and edit history of that article. Now finding the old talk-pages and edits are trickyer. Second, you save a redirect for other articles linking to that old page. And third, one of the original names are usually better. That's why they were chosen to begin with.
-Then when you've desided on what article-title to keep, you add a [[Template:Mergeto]] tag in the article with the name you want to move the content to by typing, say <nowiki> {{mergeto|Siamese Fighting Fish}} </nowiki> on top of the Betta article. And then add a corresponding [[Template:Mergefrom]] in the other article, the one you want to keep the name of. Like this: <nowiki> {{mergefrom|Betta}} </nowiki> to the top of the Siamese Fighting Fish article. Then you write a short note on each talkpage with an explanation for your request. Like you did. And then you wait a few days. Now you didn't wait very long before going through with the merge, and if it was an obvious one, it probably didn't matter. But usually it's best and more polite to give people watching the articles time to notice the request and comment on it. Just in case there were reasons for why they should be kept seperate. But asuming there were no objections after a few days, you could go ahead with the merge, and when finnished put a redirect on the article you merged from to the article you merged to.
+Then when you've desided on what article-title to keep and what to move, you add a [[Template:Mergeto]] tag in the article with the name you want to move the content from by typing, say <nowiki> {{mergeto|Siamese Fighting Fish}} </nowiki> on top of the Betta article. And then add a corresponding [[Template:Mergefrom]] in the other article, the one you want to keep the name of. Like this: <nowiki> {{mergefrom|Betta}} </nowiki> to the top of the Siamese Fighting Fish article. Then you write a short note on each talkpage with an explanation for your request. Like you did. And then you wait a few (3-4) days. Now you didn't wait very long before going through with the merge, and if it was an obvious one, it probably didn't matter. But usually it's best and more polite to give people watching the articles time to notice the request and comment on it. Just in case there were reasons for why they should be kept seperate. But asuming there were no objections after a few days, you could go ahead with the merge, and when finnished put a redirect on the article you merged from to the article you merged to.
 You should also check for any [[Wikipedia:Double redirects|double redirects]] after a merge like this. I see there are quite a few now after your merge. Example: If you go to the [[Climbing gourami]] article, you'll find a link to [[Siamese Fighting Fish]] near the bottom. But clicking that link, only brings you to the old Siamesee fighting fish, article that is now a redirect. And the reader will have to click again. This is because the [[Siamese Fighting Fish]] already had a redirect to [[Siamese fighting fish]] (low caps), and now that page is yet another redirect to the article you made. That's what is called a double redirect, and we try to avoid them. Use the "What links here" link in the toolbar to the left to find more.