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i am very surprised that you deleted the worldscoccer.net url because there are so many links in the wikipedia sites for football players, which should be player profiles or statistic links but they are really bad because there is often no background in the statistics. You unterstand what I mean? For example there are listed matches only by one numer which isn´t even a hyperlink for further information. So why don´t you want my suggested link from a page which stats and worldwide range is much higher than most of sport or especially football sites. This site works a little bit like wikipedia. You can get by the links from one information to another without an ending. Perhaps you can take a few minutes and watch the site. I´m sure you will nearly find everything you wish, if you are a football fan. Sorry for my bad english. <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Cudeferro|Cudeferro]] ([[User talk:Cudeferro|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Cudeferro|contribs]]) 10:29, 22 July 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
i am very surprised that you deleted the worldscoccer.net url because there are so many links in the wikipedia sites for football players, which should be player profiles or statistic links but they are really bad because there is often no background in the statistics. You unterstand what I mean? For example there are listed matches only by one numer which isn´t even a hyperlink for further information. So why don´t you want my suggested link from a page which stats and worldwide range is much higher than most of sport or especially football sites. This site works a little bit like wikipedia. You can get by the links from one information to another without an ending. Perhaps you can take a few minutes and watch the site. I´m sure you will nearly find everything you wish, if you are a football fan. Sorry for my bad english. <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Cudeferro|Cudeferro]] ([[User talk:Cudeferro|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Cudeferro|contribs]]) 10:29, 22 July 2008 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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Ok, i unterstand what you mean, but then I don´t unterstand the other links. For example: The FA profile, the BBC profile, tacticle profile at footballlineups, statistics at soccerbase and at least the fifa competition record. All these information of these pointed sites, you will get combined at worldfootball.net. But these stats are better because they are deeper. Thats why I don´t unterstand you handling the links. Why using suboptimal links if you can get better ones? |
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Could you take a look at this (trivial) debate and close it up please, so that people can get on with building an encyclopaedia rather than bickering and edit warring over trivial issues like whether British clubs should have F.C. after their names in the infobox. All the best. English peasant 20:50, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
Hi, sorry to keep bothering you, I wonder if you could find any information on this player, he doesn't seem to have played for Estudiantes, and no longer plays for Treviso. Perhaps you could find out what happened to him, it's pretty misleading as is, (I couldn't find much about him in English or Spanish and my Italian isn't up to much). Regards English peasant 23:48, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
- This suggests that he has played 24 times, but his lack of profile at Futbol XXI suggests that none of these games were with Estudiantes in the Argentine Primera, so it seems he's only ever played for Club El Porvenir, they may have been professional in 05-06 but I'm not sure the whole league was, this kind of information is not the kind of thing that is easily obtained, hence my WP:FOOTYN suggestion that notability should be determined on a club by club basis, with the emphasis on the protectionists to provide reliable proof. I'd AfD it, but its much better that the majority of the misleading junk that anti-deletionists have fought hard to keep, without doing anything to improve so it would probably get kept anyway. I just get sick of maintaining articles about such non-entities. Regards English peasant 19:11, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
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Current squad and Navbox
Hi Angelo, I have been thinking about how frustrating it is to update player articles on wikipedia. The process takes a minimum of 5 steps to be done properly:
- Remove from old team Navbox
- Remove from old team current squad
- add to new Navbox
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I have thought of an idea to make the process quicker for people like me who process hundreds of player transfers per transfer window.
The idea is to combine the functions of the current squad used on team articles and the navbox to make a template that can switch displays between something very similar to a current squad when you include something like club article=yes and as the navbox on player articles.
So the club article would have {{Argentinos Juniors current squad|club article=yes}} and the players would have {{Argentinos Juniors current squad}}. It would obviously be neccessary to put the [v] [d] [e] gubbins at the top of the club article template to make it easily editable.
The main benefit of this change would be to reduce the number of edits per transfer from 5 to 3, an additional benefit would be to make it impossible for the current squad and navbox getting out of sync, which is a constant problem in South American football articles.
I don't have the programming skills to design this thing, I hope you understand what I'm getting at and agree that this change would save a lot of editing time. Could you look into the possibility of doing this, I would be extremely grateful, and willing to do the edits necessary to roll these changes out for the Argentine Primera as a testing ground.
I raised this issue at Wikiproject football, where it got largely ignored, raised it with an experienced editor, who eventually tired of trying to work out how to do it. I am really hoping that you can help me with this, or at least point me in the direction of someone who can. Please let me know what you think, EP 00:34, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
- I take it you mean you don't want to see further proliferation of navboxes on player articles for minor teams, in which case I fully agree. Could you have a think about how we could code the new template, I know it needs switch functions, and some way of making the navbox ignore the {{fs mid}}. Perhaps you could work on a prototype, (my efforts have been futile) then we can take it back to WP:FOOTY and discuss restricting the use of the new template to fully professional teams? All the best EP 16:15, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
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I am concerned about some of the pages you have protected recently. Initially my cocern was in relation to the John Terry article, which I feel is experiencing a fairly standard level of vandalism for a high-profile article (about 15-16 vandalism edits in the 8 hour between my unprotection and your re-protection). The discouraging effect on potential new contributors visiting Wikipedia to view the article, would seem to outweigh the small reduction in vandalism, which can be easily handled via the usual means. Having looked at your protection log, my greater concern is your protection of Juventus F.C., which you seem to have protected following a content dispute that you were involved with [1] [2]. The edits that you reverted do not seem to have been vandalism or to be otherwise disruptive, and there seems to instead be a disagreement between you and at least one other editor over when it would be appropriate to add Mellberg to the list. It this was a content dispute, then it would be highly inappropriate for you to use to protection to prevent the other party from editing. I would be keen to hear your thoughts on this. Best Regards TigerShark (talk) 22:03, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
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- I'd really like to get some resolution on this, so a response would be appreciated. Could you clarify which of the Semi-protection criteria you are using to justify this protection? Thanks TigerShark (talk) 10:17, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks. I will unprotect them for now, but I preferred to speak with you first, especially as we have both protected/unprotected John Terry so I didn't want you to think that I was reversing an action on one article in response to you reversing one of mine. The thing with the edits is that they don't actually seem to be adding inaccurate information, rather that they are adding it in a way that is not standard practice (i.e. adding players to the current squad before the July 1st deadline). Does that make any sense? Thanks for the response. Cheers TigerShark (talk) 15:43, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
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Scusa se scrivo a te, ma non so dove sbattere la testa. Scusami anche se scrivo in italiano, ma il mio livello di inglese è troppo basso per spiegarti bene le cose che voglio spiegarti. Ho spedito un paio di contributi anonimi alla Wikipedia inglese e subito due utenti (li vedi nella mia talk page) hanno iniziato a dire che io sono un utente già bannato. Ogni mio intervento è stato da questi due cancellato, e solo dopo furibonde discussioni mi è stato permesso di lasciare un paio di cose che ho scritto. Però questi continuano a dire che io sono il clone di un altro, e poi di un altro, e infine id un altro ancora. Io mi sono presentato col mio vero nome e cognome, ho indicato anche una serie di cose che su di me si possono leggere in internet (sono uno storico dilettante, ricercatore presso un'associazione che si occupa della memoria della Shoah/Olocausto). Come posso fare perché questi due non mi diano più fastidio? Come funziona Wikipedia in questi casi? Io voglio che questi mi lascino in pace!!! Grazie per tutto quello che potrai fare.--Luigi 28 (talk) 12:24, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
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Hi, i noticed this user was inserting football rumours and the like into the article. I agree these should be removed but the editor seems keen to improve wikipedia. Inexperienced users often make mistakes about what is appropriate in wikipedia, in fact i believe few of them realise wikipedia is actually an encyclopedia instead seeing it as just some website they've visited. While it is frustrating when people make disruptive edits maybe you should try telling them what they've done wrong and why (see the IPs talk page for my response). It often solves the problem and maybe we'll get a new editor of wikipedia; with much to offer. Still, the article should be locked as it's being vandalised frequently at the moment as i've seen from my watchlist. Thanks. Sillyfolkboy (talk) 18:43, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
Yeah, i have to agree that it does make the article worse: it's current trivia masquerading as a valid part of wikipedia! I guess there will always be people putting this kind of material in. However, the editor I was talking about seemed to present the material very well (in spite the fact that it shouldn't be there) so they could eventually become a useful editor instead of a nuisance. I understand your pessimism though. The football articles seem to attract these kind of edits, and editors, more than other articles do. Sillyfolkboy (talk) 20:37, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
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- OK, but in that case, that's not a policy. I really don't know about Zeman's status in Italy, but in Serbia he was announced by the press as a Czech-Italian coach. And I think it is correct, since he has dual citizenship. But, I won't argue over something this trivial, so, if you think it's better to do it this way, it's fine by me.--Vitriden (talk) 15:29, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
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Thanks very much. That was getting a bit messy. Sorry to bother you about it! Sillyfolkboy (talk) 18:30, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
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List of Italian football transfers summer 2008
Sorry for my fault, but could you mind find the sources of the transfers i added yesterday, such as Reggina? And can you read the Lazio Annul report and add the transfer fees once the annual report/half-year report is released? Matthew_hk tc 05:53, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
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May I ask why you deleted this page?This person does exist and play for Celtic you know,I didn't just make him up.宁雨翔 (talk) 20:30, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
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You might as well delete all of the players with links on Celtic reserve team then as hardly any of them have played a first team game.Plus it says on WP:ATHLETE that the article can exist or be created as long as he/she played professional or amateur sports and he use to play for Inter Milan youth side(and Celtic FC youth) ,how much more amateur do you want it to be?宁雨翔 (talk) 20:51, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
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Hi Angelo, not to sound annoying or anything, but I've recently started a discussion regarding the names of Brazilian clubs on wikipedia (here) and considering the scale and importance of the clubs involved and the fact that there is no formal move request, I thought it might be a good idea to inform some of the regular WP:FOOTY contributors in order to get a consensus and not just a few opinions. So if you could take a second to express your opinion, it would be appreciated, cheers. BanRay 22:25, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
John Terry
Hi Angelo, i am very surprised that you deleted the worldscoccer.net url because there are so many links in the wikipedia sites for football players, which should be player profiles or statistic links but they are really bad because there is often no background in the statistics. You unterstand what I mean? For example there are listed matches only by one numer which isn´t even a hyperlink for further information. So why don´t you want my suggested link from a page which stats and worldwide range is much higher than most of sport or especially football sites. This site works a little bit like wikipedia. You can get by the links from one information to another without an ending. Perhaps you can take a few minutes and watch the site. I´m sure you will nearly find everything you wish, if you are a football fan. Sorry for my bad english. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cudeferro (talk • contribs) 10:29, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
Ok, i unterstand what you mean, but then I don´t unterstand the other links. For example: The FA profile, the BBC profile, tacticle profile at footballlineups, statistics at soccerbase and at least the fifa competition record. All these information of these pointed sites, you will get combined at worldfootball.net. But these stats are better because they are deeper. Thats why I don´t unterstand you handling the links. Why using suboptimal links if you can get better ones?