Talk:2008 Democratic Party presidential candidates

Tommy Thompson

Why is Former Wisconsin Gov. Tommy Thompson not on this page? He's formed an exploratory committee too.

Yes, but he has that pesky problem of being a Republican, which would make him stand out a bit on a page of Democrats. Simon12 03:08, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

Citation formatting

Any objections to me slapping a bunch of {{cite web}}s and {{cite news}}s on these references? The result would look a lot like United States Senate elections, 2008. I know WP:CITE does not require the use of the templates, they're just the easiest (to me) way to achieve more complete citations, which it does require. -Tobogganoggin ^talk 06:06, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

Well, since there has been no response, I've started. Having already found a few dead links, I'm sure to find more. Once I format what I can, I'll hunt for replacements and prune those out. -Tobogganoggin ^talk 03:08, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Mike Gravel Photo Update

I want this unprotected so the photo of Mike Gravel can be changed to MikeGravel.jpg , which is his current campaign photo and on his Wiki Bio .. instead of the boring one there now. Don't be afraid Hillarynistas! DavidYork71 02:31, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

My protection request was only for a semi-protect, due to an hour-long vandalism battle with an unregistered user. Joe Biden's bio and pic were being replaced with Osama Bin Laden's. I have not bias here, it just isn't right. The moderators placed a full-protect in error. I have since requested it to be downgraded to a semi-protect, so un-registered users cannot modify the content. –m.f ^{(t • c)} 11:38, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

I want to update his pic to MikeGravel.jpg, and add main article link to Mike Gravel presidential campaign, 2008 which now exists and is informative. Don just be fair to the Hillary-and-Obamanistas. Phaps you can do this for me now as i'm in Australia, i've waited long enough, and its now waaay pas my beddie-bye time. DavidYork71 14:57, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

We can wait until the semi-protect has been installed. However, I have just reviewed your discussion site, and it appears you have quite a history of content being either un-cited, or completely absurd. e.g. your attempt to create an article titled "Autosodomy". Seeing that has certainly made me hesitant to believe you want to positively contribute to this article. But, seeing as it is not up to me, we will simply wait and see what the admins decide. And as a side note, I don't see how my request for a lock was in any way related to Senator Clinton or Senator Obama, when it was Joe Biden's bio that was being vandalized and replaced with pictures of Osama Bin Laden. –m.f ^{(t • c)} 15:38, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

Editprotected

I removed an {{editprotected}} from up top, a moment ago. Currently, this page isn't protected, so you should be able to edit on your own. If I'm mistaken, or if the page is protected before you get any edits in, please note that it'll be much easier to find whatever request is being made if the editprotected template is left right next to the request itself. Thanks! – Luna Santin (talk) 19:13, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

Perhaps this page should go back to being edit protected. I just went through and corrected vandalism that had substituted all mentions of "delegates" with "HIV Patients," "elections" with "erections," and "Democrats" with "Democraps." How juvenile... There might be more that I missed, but that kind of vandalism is just sophomoric. 160.39.181.59 (talk) 07:29, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

Hillary Clinton is not a declared Candidate

Hillary Clinton is not a declared candidate. She has only formed an exploratory committee. I have moved her to this section to reflect this fact —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Blahthequah (talk • contribs) 04:58, 18 March 2007 (UTC).

This doesn't make any since. According to the FEC Filings from Prospective 2008 Presidential Campaigns Clinton, Bill Richardson, and even Rudolph Giuliani have filed for exploratory committees as is common for candidates to do before primaries. Richardson is in the declared candidate category and so is Giuliani in the Republican candidate wikipedia entry. There is no need to separate Clinton like this. Also, the link citing Clinton's filing for an exploratory committee, [4], is broken.

--Rotorius.kool 02:58, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

Hillary D. R. Clinton - Officially Declared

Oh my God, you are all so infuriating! Hillary Clinton declared her candidacy on 1/20.07 - I swear, Hillary could be in the middle of the primary election, and you all would still have her as a "potential" candidate" because she simply announced her candidacy on exploratory committe day - I moved her and she shouldn't be moved back, because William Richardson is the ONLY one who is unannouced and without an exploratory committe.

Move page?

Does anyone else feel this page should be moved to 2008 Democratic presidential candidates? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Hoponpop69 (talk • contribs) 03:49, 28 March 2007 (UTC).

Bill Richardson

Bill Richardson stated "I am running," when asked by Jon Stewart if he was running for President on last night's (3/28/07) airing of "The Daily Show" on Comedy Central. Rich 13:28, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Yes.I tried to add it but it got reverted.He's offcially running.Parralax 01:06, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

Someone ought to mention that he's been nominated for the nobel peace prize 4 times. Not that I'm voting for him, but I think it's a significant achievement. 71.148.48.87 23:34, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

This article needs to start resembling the following

Democratic Party (United States) presidential primaries, 2004

I'd also suggest once again moving the page.Hoponpop69 21:32, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

Added to United States presidential election, 2008 table

I have added a link to this page from the United States presidential election, 2008 table JLMadrigal 12:44, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

Non-Candidates

Why are there non-candidates here? There are several people on this page who never intended to run.

Democratic Debate video

Does anyone know where to watch or download the video of the democratic debate talked about here? http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/04/26/dems.debate.ap/index.html Thank you - --Dave1g 02:44, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

Found it. Would this be a good external link? http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3032553/ --Dave1g 14:43, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

Other candidates?

The Republican candidate page has a list of "other candidates", people officially running for the Republican nomination who for some reason or another are not listed as part of the pack of candidates by mainstream coverage. Surely there are Democratic candidates in the same boat. So why is there no "other candidates" section? Inkan1969 21:34, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

Done. Added Dal LaMagna. --Allstar86 17:19, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

Sentence Fragments

I have concerns about the multiple sentence fragments located in the first sentence of many of the people. They say something to the effect of:

John Doe, born January 1, 2000, in Washington, D.C., the Senator from Where-ever.

This to me, clearly is a sentence fragment, considering there is NO predicate (verb). Is there a particular reason for at least a linking verb not being there?!

Curran (talk) 23:43, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

Clinton's Credentials

Clinton's credentials don't follow the style used for other candidates. Bullets (for others) are used to describe political offices.

Added thumbnail Chart summarizing Opinion Polling for the United States Presidential Election, 2008 - General Election - Two-Way Contest - Results of All Democratic and Republican Candidates

Chart summarizing Opinion Polling for the United States Presidential Election, 2008 - General Election - Two-Way Contest - Results of All Democratic and Republican Candidates (click to enlarge)

--Robapalooza 17:22, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

Potential candidates who decided against running

Aren't a majority of Americans potential candidates who decided against running? How should we choose who to include in this list? 142.103.8.98 00:33, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

There must obviously be notable "buzz" for someone to run or announce their run. Since most people are not notable and do not generate enough buzz, they should not be added. Buzz would be defined as the anticipation at I'd say at least a state-level. The buzz for a store owner in a random town in America created by some of the townspeople would not be as notable as, say, a state senator, representative, or large figure that may not necessarily be known for politics. It's hard to say how to include people in the list because then you have to factor in media bias and other things that may exaggerate or downplay a candidate (Ron Paul comes to mind as an example of this, as he all but ignored initially but now seems to be a bit better off). I'd say the best way to identify a potential candidate would be someone notable who has made an official position. The person need not be a politician. Goofyman 01:26, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

Personally, I think the entire section should be removed. From the context of the article, it can be assumed that if a person is high-profile enough, and hasn't explicitly stated they will not run for election, they would be in the "potential candidates who haven't declared" section. There's no need to say what won't happen. For example, if someone wants to know if John Kerry will be running for President, and they don't see his name on this page, then it can be safely assumed that he won't be. There's no need to add a section of "by the way, these people won't be running for President in 2008." -- 12.116.162.162 17:02, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

Questions? Ask them through Wikinews

Hello,

I'm Nick Moreau, an accredited reporter for Wikinews. I'm co-ordinating our 2008 US Presidential election interviews. We will be interviewing as many candidates as possible, from the Democrats, Republicans, and other parties/independents.

I'll be sending out requests for interviews to the major candidates very soon, but I want your input, as people interested in American politics: what should I ask them?

Please go to any of these three pages, and add a question.

• n:Wikinews:Story preparation/US 2008/Democratic Party
• n:Wikinews:Story preparation/US 2008/Republican Party
• n:Wikinews:Story preparation/US 2008/Third Party or Independent

Thanks, Nick -- Zanimum 14:56, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

Transclusion into 2008 Presidential Candidates

I'd like to move the table with the main Democratic candidates into a template and transclude it onto this page and 2008 Presidential Candidates. Please comment at Talk:2008_Presidential_Candidates#Transcluding_Democratic_and_Republican_candidates. Λυδαcιτγ 05:04, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

The Experience of Mrs. Clinton

These were offices and positions she held - they should be listed. The reason this is not listed for any other candidates is because the other candidates never held positions like this. The template is meant to show the experience of the candidates, and this shows hers the best. Also, her work as an attorney for congress during Watergate should be noted.

• Chairperson of the United States Legal Services Corporation: 1977
• First Lady of Arkansas: 1979–1981 and 1983–1992
• Chairperson of the Children's Defense Fund: 1986–1991
• Director on the Board of Wal-Mart : 1986–1992
• First Lady of the United States: 1993–2001
• Chairperson of the President's Task Force on Health Care Reform: 1993
• Founding Chairwoman of the Save America's Treasures program
• U.S. Diplomat to 82 nations and the U.N.
• Co-Founder of the Office of Violence Against Women: 1995
• Chairwoman of the Adoption and Safe Families Act: 1997
• U.S. Senator from NY

This isn't a place to stick a resume, it's a brief summary of the candidate. Academic decathlete (talk) 05:15, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

Mark Warner

Mark Warner has clearly said that he is not going to run. Why is he still in the potential category? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.163.103.0 (talk) 19:56, August 26, 2007 (UTC)

Al Gore

Isn't it time that Al Gore was moved to the "not running" category? I mean, how many times does someone have to say that they have no plans for running before they aren't considered "potential" anymore? If the same standard that is being applied to Al Gore was applied to everyone else, there would be tons of candidates on the "potential" list. I think it's time to move him. Thoughts, anyone?Wahhmaster 16:41, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

Someone should put on that he never officially said no, and he can't run because of deadlines. 71.110.66.18 (talk) 20:32, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

You forget that Wikipedia has a bias toward anything related to Al Gore. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.102.132.45 (talk) 03:39, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

Does anyone think Al Gore is actually going to run? This isn't rhetorical. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.101.208.169 (talk) 07:00, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

Spam flag

I can't revert this page (such as Al Gore's 1505 birthday) due to the use of a reference that the spam filter doesn't like. --Aranae 18:32, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

Should be fixed now. --Tom (talk - email) 23:29, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Howard Dean

That is a HORRIBLE picture of Howard Dean. Can't we find one of him where he doesn't have that goofy cross-eyed look on his face? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.134.231.220 (talk) 01:35, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

From Gravel's Webpage

We're Still in the Race! January 4th, 2008 by J. Skyler S. Mc...

Once again, the Mainstream Media has not gotten the facts straight.

MSNBC pundit Keith Olbermann has incorrectly declared that Sen. Gravel has dropped out of the race following the January third caucus in Iowa. This is not true, and Sen. Gravel is still an active member in this race. We are requesting that MSNBC and Keith Olbermann retract their statement, and issue an apology to the campaign for promoting blatantly false misinformation.

Again, Sen. Gravel has not dissolved his campaign, and has no intentions of doing so

Turtlescrubber (talk) 06:41, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

Eliminate "Declined To Seek Nomination"

I propose that we eliminate the section discussing Democrats who did not seek nomination, as this would include literally every Democrat (except 14 or so) in the country. Simply because the media speculated that they may run does not make them notable; this would be akin to writing an article about how the weather might have been had the meteorologists been correct. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Academic decathlete (talk • contribs) 05:11, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

"Delegate Race" section makes no sense

I am struggling to make any sense at all of the "Delegate Race" section and am considering reverting it back to what was there before. First of all, how can the table show a few hundred pledge delegates when only 67 pledge delegates have been selected so far? And what does the "delegates needed" column represent--delegates needed for what? It clearly doesn't mean to win, but what else would you need delegates for? Please explain!--Margareta (talk) 23:18, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

There are delegates chosen during the primaries/caucuses and also "superdelegates" who are party officials who have already endorsed a candidate. Is this what you're asking? As for "delegates needed," it comes from dividing the current number of delegates by 2025, which is the minimum number of delegates you'd need to win the convention (slightly over half of 4049). Sxp151 (talk) 03:02, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

Time to Move Gravel

Mike Gravel should be moved to the "other candidates" section. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.37.116.3 (talk) 21:49, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

Kuncinich

kucinich has not dropped out as of thursday jan 24th. Can someone move him down? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.104.217.141 (talk) 00:03, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

I believe it's official, Kuncinich has announced his withdrawl from the presidential race. GoodDay (talk) 23:35, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

"Professional Qualifications" chart

Although I agree with the editor who deleted this chart that this article should not specifically be for helping readers decide who to vote for, I think this chart does a good job of presenting a lot of objective personal info about the two top candidates. Honestly, Gravel probably should be included, but what's the point? johnpseudo 21:14, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

A Clinton support must have edited this page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.229.197.42 (talk) 18:04, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

Why is Ron Paul not featured?

Why is Ron Paul not featured on the 2008 Elections page?Jay38932006 (talk) 16:42, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

You can find him here.--Nkrosse (talk) 19:43, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

Now I feel quite foolish, I had followed a link to Presidential Candidates which did not say Democratic, and mistaken this for overall runnings. Fixed the link. Jay38932006 (talk) 02:48, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

Standardization with Republican presidential candidates?

Just thinking that a standard format (with delegate numbers on top) would serve to unify the layout of the two major party pages ad generally make it a bit more useful to reaad, without scrolling practically all the way down on one page to see current delegate numbers and having numbers on the other page right there. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 138.67.150.149 (talk) 06:40, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

All official candidates for President, 2008

Having counted over 410 candidates, including 77 that media sources have reported also, the total number of official "announced candidates" for President so far in 2008 is currently over 340 in accords to the United States Federal Government official record; this as reported by Vote Smart and easily accessable on their webpage at http://www.votesmart.org/election_president_search.php?type=alpha. All the candidates should qualify for this page somewhere berween #2 & #3, so I amm simply adding this helpful link to the external links titled "All Candidates 2008(Project Vote Smart ) " ...ASAP Objections? —Preceding unsigned comment added by EPLU RIB USU NUM VERSE (talk • contribs) 00:51, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

Very Well; its agreed! --S"1"(c) 01:24, 22 February 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by EPLU RIB USU NUM VERSE (talk • contribs) 01:24, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

Half a delegate?

The Delegate Race section indicates that Clinton has 924.5 pledged delegate. How is it possible to have half of a delegate? Can someone check this? Kari Hazzard (T | C) 17:04, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

Some delegates to the convention get 1/2 vote. The pledged delegates from Democrats Abroad, Guam, American Samoa and Virgin Islands get 1/2 votes. The unpledged delegates from Democrats Abroad also get 1/2 votes. (This is to allow more delegates to attend the convention for delgations with few total votes). Simon12 (talk) 01:52, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

Hillary in East Germany

When did Hillary Rodham live in East Germany? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.37.116.3 (talk) 16:07, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

Keith Russell Judd

This guy is also running for the democratic nomination. He resides in Texas and will be on the ballot in Idaho (making him a nation candidate). He is also write-in on Kentucky, California, Indiana and Florida.

Source: "Texas prison inmate cons way onto Idaho primary ballot". Gannett Wisconsin Newspapers. The Associated Press. 2008-04-16. Retrieved 2008-04-17.

EvanCarroll (talk) 14:55, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

Bill Clinton

Should Bill Clinton not be mentionned in Hilary's summary? Obama's mentions Oprah, and the support of Bill Clinton seems a lot more relevant/important than Oprah's in my opinion. Or at least perhaps "former first lady of the United States to Bill Clinton" M.nelson (talk) 05:37, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

endorsed barak obama

can someone please post references to these people supposedly endorsing barak obama? I mean I love the after hillary, endorsed barak obama in the article.. I mean does it really count after they are the person is already chosen that you endorse them?.. I mean just about everyone will endorse at the end when its either that or the other party.. seems kinda disengenuos to me.. at least source it...looks to me like an obama fan boy went down the list and said.. well that one sounds good.. -71.232.179.236 (talk) 03:44, 29 July 2008 (UTC)