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:::::::: BTW - only the ATA calls its footy "touch football". Every other nation and its bodies associated with the FIT call it touch rugby. And this is why every body else calls it touch rugby. To me, Rugby is a game played on a retangular field, two teams, attacking and defending. The attacking try's to score a touch down by passing the ball back wards and running forwards towards the defence. This is rugby too me. There are 3 forms, Touch, Rugby union, Rugby league. This is how i think it should be thought of. Touch rugby is growing damn fast. Chances are if rugby league also continues to grow, this though of their being 3 forms for rugby will become more common.[[User:POds|POds]] 07:21, 8 September 2005 (UTC) |
:::::::: BTW - only the ATA calls its footy "touch football". Every other nation and its bodies associated with the FIT call it touch rugby. And this is why every body else calls it touch rugby. To me, Rugby is a game played on a retangular field, two teams, attacking and defending. The attacking try's to score a touch down by passing the ball back wards and running forwards towards the defence. This is rugby too me. There are 3 forms, Touch, Rugby union, Rugby league. This is how i think it should be thought of. Touch rugby is growing damn fast. Chances are if rugby league also continues to grow, this though of their being 3 forms for rugby will become more common.[[User:POds|POds]] 07:21, 8 September 2005 (UTC) |
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::::::::: lol, perhaps you should email the FIT and tell them they've got the name of their own sport wrong. As mentioned in the article the first associaton called it touch football, I guess "the rest of the world" were calling it touch rugby before it they knew about it. Though most here dont http://www.internationaltouch.com.au/pagesection.html?intid=0 |
::::::::: lol, perhaps you should email the FIT and tell them they've got the name of their own sport wrong. As mentioned in the article the first associaton called it touch football, I guess "the rest of the world" were calling it touch rugby before it they knew about it. Though most here dont http://www.internationaltouch.com.au/pagesection.html?intid=0 |
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:::::::::: PLEASE KEEP COOL all around the world(and France too) play the same sport according FIT rules so everybody call that sport touch rugby except australia so what we do??? [[User:Goldensun|Goldensun]] 08:02, 9 September 2005 (UTC) |
:::::::::: PLEASE KEEP COOL all around the world(and France too) play the same sport according FIT rules so everybody call that sport touch rugby except australia so what we do??? "RULE 1 - DEFINITIONS AND TERMINOLOGY<br>Unless the contrary intention appears, the following definitions and terminology apply to the game of Touch: (see [http://www.internationaltouch.com.au/pagesection.html?intid=1#rule1] [[User:Goldensun|Goldensun]] 08:02, 9 September 2005 (UTC) |
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BTW, rugby = rugby union, league = rugby league, touch = touch football. --[[User:*Paul*|Paul]] 12:36, 8 September 2005 (UTC) |
BTW, rugby = rugby union, league = rugby league, touch = touch football. --[[User:*Paul*|Paul]] 12:36, 8 September 2005 (UTC) |
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Moving from Touch football (rugby league) to Touch rugby
Previous touch rugby article was useless, content merged with touch football (rugby league). Touch football (rugby league) title is confusing and leads to other touch rugby articles describing the same sport or close variants that never deserve their own article due to little information. POds 07:11, 8 September 2005 (UTC)
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- Support - This current title has lead people to start creating or writing article's of the same sport under the title "touch rugby" which is this sports most commonly used name. POds 07:43, 8 September 2005 (UTC)
- Support - All the world use the term touch rugby except for the australia who invent that sport so majority wins Goldensun 08:29, 8 September 2005 (UTC)
Discussion
- Add any additional comments
Previously this page consisted of an article that tried to distinguish its self from touch football (rugby league). It did not do this, there was no distinction. No new information. No reason for an article. Touch rugby should be THE home of touch rugby, which clearly this sport is, as thousands of people around the world will testify.
Also, this page should not just try to document rules that are governed by the FIT. It should document the most common variants. Perhaps a specific FIT article could be written. However most information already here, including the rules is what people think of when they say or here "touch rugby". Thus that information is most relevant here.
touchrugby.com refers to the sport mentioned in touch football (rugby league). World wide use of the name Touch rugby is a very good reason to have this moved to Touch rugby. POds 07:58, 8 September 2005 (UTC)
- From touchrugby.com "the game is similar to rugby but without the tackling, scrumming, rucking, mauling, lineouts and kicking." Rucking? mauling? lineouts? They are confused, this confusion is widespread it seems - the game has nothing to do with rugby, it's a league variant, therefore calling it rugby makes no sense. --Paul 12:49, 8 September 2005 (UTC)
- Well that is if you believe rugby league has no right to be called rugby, which it clearly is. As i said before and i believe it to be true. Rugby refers to the style of game of passing the ball backwards to move forward with the aim of scoring a touch down. Rugby union refers to one specific type of game, so does rugby league and so does touch rugby. You obviously dont share that opinion. Given rugby is most often used as the term to describe rugby union in Australia, but over sea's rugby is used as a term to describe both both rugby league and rugby union. At least I'm pretty damn sure it is!
- From Rugby
- Rugby may refer to:
- Rugby football
- Rugby league
- Rugby union
- Touch Rugby
- Tag Rugby
- Wheelchair Rugby
- Rugby may refer to:
- Also from rugby union
- For clarity and convenience it became necessary to differentiate the two codes of rugby. The code played by those teams who remained in national organisations which made up the IRB became known as Rugby Union. The code played by those teams which played "open" rugby and allowed professionals became known as Rugby League.
- POds 22:18, 8 September 2005 (UTC)
A distinction needs to be made between actual Touch Football http://www.internationaltouch.com.au/ and what appears to be a muck around game "A common time for it to be played is as an end of training session on the day before an important rugby game, to reduce to a minimum the chances of an accidental injury"
Good on 131.244.3.45 for fixing this up.
I have moved this article from Touch Rugby to this name because for many people Touch rugby is what is described above. After the edits made by user:131.244.3.45 06:31, 9 Mar 2005 the article had become exclusivly about FIT so it is better that it has it's own article. Philip Baird Shearer 09:44, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
- Still not quite right - it's called Touch football (already taken) or just Touch. -- Paul 18:19, 26 Jun 2005 (UTC)
Gee i hate this touch football stuff. This article's title, should not have in brakets (rugby league). It should, as it does, mention that it was derived from rugby league. We dont put "rugby" or "rugby union" in brakets after the rugby league's title, so why here? Hmm.. I'm going to brain storm about this for a while i think.
- It's to differentiate it from the American version of touch football. --Paul 12:02, 7 September 2005 (UTC)
- yes i dont have a problem with that so much, but witht he problem of it being touch football (rugby league). It should be touch football (rugby). You've got people in Europe thinking their playing a special form for touch rugby union which just doesnt exist. They're playing the same game as everyone else as governed by the FIT, which is touch rugby, aka touch, aka touch football (in australia). I'ts never been known as touch football rugby league or touch rugby league. POds 05:22, 8 September 2005 (UTC)
- The league part of the title isn't meant to be its proper name, merely a disambiguation tag. As I said, if there was no such thing as american touch football, the article would merely be called "touch football". Also, the game has nothing do to with union, calling it touch rugby suggests that it has. It's non-contact LEAGUE--Paul 05:53, 8 September 2005 (UTC)
- Simply put, it's known as touch rugby right around the world. I propose touch football (rugby league) be moved to touch rugby. Then that one page can be used for all touch rugby, if indeed there is more the one kinda someone wishes to write about, which there appears not to be! POds 05:56, 8 September 2005 (UTC)
- known touch rugby right around the world Except where it was invented, where its mostly played, and by its governing body. I'd say the reason why it started being called "rugby" is because league (remember, the game its based on) obviously has a lower profile than union in most parts, people probably thought they were playing a version of union. --Paul 06:11, 8 September 2005 (UTC)
- The previous touch rugby page had a pitiful example of an article. The person who created it or was editing it at the time thought what he played was different to touch football (rugby league) because it had a different name. This lead to an article trying to cover what this article already does. Thus, haveing the information that is currently on this page, anywhere else but touch rugby, is going to encourage more idiotic useless articles. The fact remains, this game is played right through out the world, including major universities, such as stanford and it is known as touch rugby. As i have indicated, it is not the only form of touch rugby but it is A form of touch rugby and the touch rugby article should make readers aware of this. I i have tried to do over the last couple of days with this particular page. Now i think its time to move it to touch rugby. POds 06:19, 8 September 2005 (UTC)
- Move it back to touch rugby (even though it has no connection with rugby, and is officially called Touch), the guy who originally mucked up the article by putting in what is now in the "touch rugby union" page - that stuff about it being non-codified and such - seems to have gone away. --Paul 06:31, 8 September 2005 (UTC)
- BTW - only the ATA calls its footy "touch football". Every other nation and its bodies associated with the FIT call it touch rugby. And this is why every body else calls it touch rugby. To me, Rugby is a game played on a retangular field, two teams, attacking and defending. The attacking try's to score a touch down by passing the ball back wards and running forwards towards the defence. This is rugby too me. There are 3 forms, Touch, Rugby union, Rugby league. This is how i think it should be thought of. Touch rugby is growing damn fast. Chances are if rugby league also continues to grow, this though of their being 3 forms for rugby will become more common.POds 07:21, 8 September 2005 (UTC)
- lol, perhaps you should email the FIT and tell them they've got the name of their own sport wrong. As mentioned in the article the first associaton called it touch football, I guess "the rest of the world" were calling it touch rugby before it they knew about it. Though most here dont http://www.internationaltouch.com.au/pagesection.html?intid=0
- PLEASE KEEP COOL all around the world(and France too) play the same sport according FIT rules so everybody call that sport touch rugby except australia so what we do??? "RULE 1 - DEFINITIONS AND TERMINOLOGY
Unless the contrary intention appears, the following definitions and terminology apply to the game of Touch: (see [1] Goldensun 08:02, 9 September 2005 (UTC)
- PLEASE KEEP COOL all around the world(and France too) play the same sport according FIT rules so everybody call that sport touch rugby except australia so what we do??? "RULE 1 - DEFINITIONS AND TERMINOLOGY
- lol, perhaps you should email the FIT and tell them they've got the name of their own sport wrong. As mentioned in the article the first associaton called it touch football, I guess "the rest of the world" were calling it touch rugby before it they knew about it. Though most here dont http://www.internationaltouch.com.au/pagesection.html?intid=0
- BTW - only the ATA calls its footy "touch football". Every other nation and its bodies associated with the FIT call it touch rugby. And this is why every body else calls it touch rugby. To me, Rugby is a game played on a retangular field, two teams, attacking and defending. The attacking try's to score a touch down by passing the ball back wards and running forwards towards the defence. This is rugby too me. There are 3 forms, Touch, Rugby union, Rugby league. This is how i think it should be thought of. Touch rugby is growing damn fast. Chances are if rugby league also continues to grow, this though of their being 3 forms for rugby will become more common.POds 07:21, 8 September 2005 (UTC)
- Move it back to touch rugby (even though it has no connection with rugby, and is officially called Touch), the guy who originally mucked up the article by putting in what is now in the "touch rugby union" page - that stuff about it being non-codified and such - seems to have gone away. --Paul 06:31, 8 September 2005 (UTC)
- The previous touch rugby page had a pitiful example of an article. The person who created it or was editing it at the time thought what he played was different to touch football (rugby league) because it had a different name. This lead to an article trying to cover what this article already does. Thus, haveing the information that is currently on this page, anywhere else but touch rugby, is going to encourage more idiotic useless articles. The fact remains, this game is played right through out the world, including major universities, such as stanford and it is known as touch rugby. As i have indicated, it is not the only form of touch rugby but it is A form of touch rugby and the touch rugby article should make readers aware of this. I i have tried to do over the last couple of days with this particular page. Now i think its time to move it to touch rugby. POds 06:19, 8 September 2005 (UTC)
- known touch rugby right around the world Except where it was invented, where its mostly played, and by its governing body. I'd say the reason why it started being called "rugby" is because league (remember, the game its based on) obviously has a lower profile than union in most parts, people probably thought they were playing a version of union. --Paul 06:11, 8 September 2005 (UTC)
- Simply put, it's known as touch rugby right around the world. I propose touch football (rugby league) be moved to touch rugby. Then that one page can be used for all touch rugby, if indeed there is more the one kinda someone wishes to write about, which there appears not to be! POds 05:56, 8 September 2005 (UTC)
- The league part of the title isn't meant to be its proper name, merely a disambiguation tag. As I said, if there was no such thing as american touch football, the article would merely be called "touch football". Also, the game has nothing do to with union, calling it touch rugby suggests that it has. It's non-contact LEAGUE--Paul 05:53, 8 September 2005 (UTC)
- yes i dont have a problem with that so much, but witht he problem of it being touch football (rugby league). It should be touch football (rugby). You've got people in Europe thinking their playing a special form for touch rugby union which just doesnt exist. They're playing the same game as everyone else as governed by the FIT, which is touch rugby, aka touch, aka touch football (in australia). I'ts never been known as touch football rugby league or touch rugby league. POds 05:22, 8 September 2005 (UTC)
BTW, rugby = rugby union, league = rugby league, touch = touch football. --Paul 12:36, 8 September 2005 (UTC)
- The problem is Paul, "football" only means league in NSW and Qld (and a minority of people in other Australian states and territories). To the rest of us heathens, league is one of two kinds of rugby. That is why it's called the National Rugby League. Likewise few people in Australia refer to "Australian rules football" (which is "football" in most parts of Australia) but that's what its called overseas.Grant65 (Talk) 13:23, September 8, 2005 (UTC)