User talk:Xeno

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• ✓ Kanġi Oĥanko (talk) 09:56, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
• Just a compliment Lympathy ^Talk 15:24, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
• Washburnmav (talk) 18:24, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

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How do you make icons?

how should I make icons and how long have I been to wikipedia?--Spittlespat (talk) 20:42, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

I'm not quite sure what you mean about the icons. You've been on Wikipedia since April 26, 2008. You could display this by adding this userbox to your userpage: {{User Wikipedian For|year=2008|month=04|day=26}}. –xeno (talk) 20:54, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

guest book

what's a guest book could I make or have one?--Spittlespat (talk) 20:46, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

A guest book is just something any user could put into their userspace to have other editors sign. If you want one, just create a page on your userspace (such as User:Spittlespat/My Guestbook or something similar, and state what it is. :) <3 Tinkleheimer TALK!! 20:51, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

^ what he said. –xeno (talk) 20:55, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

So it's like making an article I type in user:spittlespat|spittlespat in the search box and then create it?--Spittlespat (talk) 02:06, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

or you could just click the redlink above. –xeno (talk) 02:23, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

just go to your user page, then add "/guestbook" to the actual address after it's loaded (address would be http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Spittlespat/guestbook) and edit it, then add a line of text saying "this is my guestbook", and yer done... it's the same thing I do whenever I want to make any kind of a subpage... just make sure to add a link on your userpage if you ever want anyone to find it... - Adolphus79 (talk) 04:13, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

I made a User:Spittlespat/my guestbook page now what? How do I put it in my userpage how do I create a new tab that says my guestbook? Make sure to sign my guestbook--Spittlespat (talk) 23:56, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

You could make a link on your userpage that goes to your guestbook. Or you could put a link to it in your signature. Or you could make some kind of navigational bar on your userpage that links to it (see my userpage for an example). Useight (talk) 00:01, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

How do you make a link? LOL I'm so stupid!!--Spittlespat (talk) 00:03, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

I see you already have the words "my guestbook" on your userpage. You could make that into a link to your guestbook using this type of code: [[User:Spittlespat/My Guestbook|my guestbook]]. If you put that in place of the words "my guestbook" on your userpage, that'll do the trick. And you're not stupid, you're new. Useight (talk) 00:06, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

• Thanks Useight =) –xeno (talk) 00:35, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

No problem, you know I got your back. Useight (talk) 01:17, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

How do you get you status pasted up on User/talk page?

The header says it all dude. Gears of War 2 17:15, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

Create special:Mypage/Status with your status (online, busy, around, sleeping or offline) and then use {{Statustop}}. You can add scripts such as the below one to your monobook.js update the status page easily:

importScript('User:Xenocidic/statusChanger2.js');

hope that helps. –xeno (talk) 17:17, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

Thanks a million. Gears of War 2 17:19, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

no prob. –xeno (talk) 17:22, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

Adoptee tasks

I want to thank you for adding this as a task for adoptees like myself. I often find myself wondering what I can do to help without knowing where to start and this is a great step for me to help and achieve at the same time. I realise this has taken a large amount of time and effort and I want to acknowledge that I appreciate what you have done. I aim to complete these exercises/edits over time and gain the experience and understanding needed to one day become an admin and also to become a better and more effective wiki user. Lympathy ^Talk 17:25, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

Well, I can't take all the credit for it, I just tweaked the lessons that were already floating around out there. Hersfold is the one who originally made them. cheers though, I hope you find them helpful. =) –xeno (talk) 17:29, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

Response

Hi and thanx. I don't often use those citation formats because it can be performed simpler and without finding the template as I tried to do -- but for some reason, it didn't work. Do you know why? It fit the same format as the other citations, XYZ.com, but wouldn't format properly. DRosenbach ^{(Talk | Contribs)} 20:40, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

user recovery

 Done. Without Xenovention. Useight (talk) 04:46, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

hi i was wondering if u could send a copy of my recently deleted article (user:Essrko, otherwise termed Erik Steven Smith) to my email address please, im not completely sure y they deleted it, i guess i made it too professional looking and they thought that it was meant to be an actual article instead of my wiki-profile...oh well, i would just really appreciate a copy, thank you very much and have a wonderful day -Erik —Preceding unsigned comment added by Essrko (talk • contribs) 04:33, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

Useight has done this for you (thanks =), and placed the article at User:Essrko/Bio. As for why it was deleted, it was because it /was/ in the encyclopedia space. It can happily stay at its current location or User:Essrko Let me know if you have any further questions. I've deleted your email address from my talk page so it doesn't get picked up by spammers. –xeno (talk) 12:21, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

Image:Hellboy2hell.jpg

Since you're online, could you delete this picture? Thanks, HeLLboy2HeLL (talk) 13:10, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

 Done –xeno (talk) 13:12, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, here: HeLLboy2HeLL 13:31, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

User:Cbsite

Yep. Gwen Gale (talk) 14:10, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

eh? –xeno (talk) 14:11, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

Oh, I'm only saying, I support the indef. Gwen Gale (talk) 14:12, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

Thx, I wasn't quite sure, but it's clear he was only here for disruption. –xeno (talk) 14:17, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

Moreover, he was given many chances to settle down into helpful editing. Gwen Gale (talk) 14:20, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

A Favor To Ask

Dear Xenocidic,

I have been here since 2004, and I would like to be an admin someday. I was wondering if you can briefly screen my account, and see if at this point, I make a good candidate for admin. If not, can you give me some pointers as to how I can become one? Thanks! Arbiteroftruth (talk) 19:46, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

Well, right off the bat, you should tag Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Arbiteroftruth with {{db-author}}. Since it never went live. –xeno (talk) 19:52, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

• To be honest, I'm really not that great at vetting RFA candidates. What I do see is that your edit summary usage has greatly improved in the last two-three months. But you are pretty much in the very-low activity range, rarely breaking 100-200 edits per month. This isn't really a reason to oppose, but most people like to see people are more active. What's good is that you are constistently editing, with no activity-free months since 2005. Looking at [1] I also see you've got around 100 AIV reports, some RFPP reports and some SSP/RFCU activity. Fairly good balance of namespaces, with contributions to portals, which is rare. I also see you're a fairly regular participant at AfD. A cursory glance of your deleted contribs doesn't show much or any CSD work. In conclusion though, I'd say go for it. Have you gotten your tit in a wringer at all over the last few years? Like any major drama (AN/AN/I/WQA/etc)? If not, you'd probably have a fairly decent chance as long as you haven't pissed too many people off. That's just my off-the-cuff remarks. If you want, I could write the above up into a nomination statement for you if you'd rather not self-nom, but I must warn you, my one and only nom didn't go so well! (That was a while back, before I was an admin, though). Also review User:Balloonman/How to pass an RfA for more solid advice. –xeno (talk) 20:03, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

And stop badgering other admins. ;-) Tan ǀ 39 20:07, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

...especially lazy sacks with tan-colored signatures. ;p –xeno (talk) 20:08, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

Who has a good chance with admin noms here? You, or Tan? Arbiteroftruth (talk) 00:12, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

I don't know if Tan's ever nominated anyone... –xeno (talk) 01:10, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

If either you or tan can nominate me, that would be great. And just to show that I will invest more time to Wikipedia, I have installed the Twinkies and Friendly application. Arbiteroftruth (talk) 03:04, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

First, tag that RFA that never went anywhere with {{db-author}}. –xeno (talk) 03:05, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

Tagged. Arbiteroftruth (talk) 03:32, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

• k, I'll write up a nom statement tomorrow, since it's pretty late. In the meantime, you should read over that link to Balloonman's how-to guide. –xeno (talk) 04:07, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

I know I said I'd do this a few days ago, but I just didn't get around to it yet (sorry). I will make a solid effort to write it up this weekend. Have you thought about seeking a co-nom as well? –xeno (talk) 14:59, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

Editing Header Levels

Hey now! You fixed the same thing I was trying (unsuccessfully) to fix! Guess I'm not the only one who is OCD ;-). Wikiwikikid (talk) 17:38, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

heh, yes ... you simply went in the wrong direction =) –xeno (talk) 17:40, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

I had a 50/50 chance! :-D Wikiwikikid (talk) 17:46, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

What to do now?

With AN/K now gone, I guess AN/X is about to get a little more popular? - Adolphus79 (talk) 00:33, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

Yea, he's lost a close wikifriend, he'll probably be away for a bit. –xeno (talk) 00:34, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

I just finished reading most of (I think most of) the situation... I did not know the guy myself, but have seen his edits here and there... it always sucks to lose a good editor, especially if they are a friend... - Adolphus79 (talk) 00:37, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

I didn't know him that much either but I know he'd been having a tough time. –xeno (talk) 00:39, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

AN/U is also always available if I can be of assistance. Useight (talk) 01:11, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

Is there a summary of what happened and who died? Also, shame that Keeper protected his page--I'm sure there are more than me who'd prefer to leave well wishes to him. Jclemens (talk) 01:41, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

User talk:Jeffpw... - Adolphus79 (talk) 01:48, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

Thank you. Jclemens (talk) 17:22, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

Ninja Gaiden

Great to know that your only defense is "edit the target article so no one can oppose your consensus-less move". Your argument would be great in a discussion, not in IGNORING a discussion. - A Link to the Past (talk) 15:50, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

The RM stood for nearly a month. I thoroughly reviewed the WPVG discussion and felt that consensus was for a move. You are free to open another discussion. The hidden comment was to encourage this, and prevent an edit war. You'll note that I was not a participant in that discussion; in fact, personally, I couldn't care less where the article goes. If you feel that I have erred in determining consensus, please open a line of discussion on that, rather than wheeling over my action. –xeno (talk) 15:54, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

There was no consensus, and to ignore that series typically use (series) is faulty. Few series do this, and only when they're so much more well-known than any one game. This is absolutely not the case here, and with the disambiguation still existing, it should remain at the main page. - A Link to the Past (talk) 16:03, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

I suppose we'll have to agree to disagree on whether or not there was a consensus. Clearly, I thought there was, else I would not have performed the move - but you're welcome to re-open the discussion. As for the dab page still existing, that's just because no one has seen fit to nominate it for deletion. I completed the move, that is all. –xeno (talk) 17:16, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

In response, I disagree with the move, but was irritable because I thought you were the one who proposed it, and were moving it yourself. - A Link to the Past (talk) 01:05, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

Fair enough. No, I wouldn't have done that. cheers, –xeno (talk) 16:50, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

Question from a novice

Xeno, humor me here. Am I off my rocker for believing that even registered accounts should be given and then vandalize after a final warning before being blocked? Is there some kind of an unspoken precedence at AIV for not necessarily letting that happen? I've seen it happen far too often in the past 2 weeks to consider anything but two possibilities: 1. Admins often take action without really looking into things (shocking, right?), or 2. I'm completely out of the loop, having been an admin for only a couple of weeks. Your thoughts? Okiefromokla ^questions? 16:39, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

I have thoughts on this, but I'm waiting for Xeno to answer first ;-) Tan ǀ 39 17:17, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

It's a judgment call based on the situation and severity of the vandalism. Some accounts can be blocked on sight, others should be given warnings. –xeno (talk) 17:18, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

Exactly. There's a difference between assuming good faith (i.e., giving yet another warning and hoping the vandalism stops), and simply being foolish about it. "Poooop!" "Stop." "Pooooooop!" "Please stop." "PPPOOOOOOOOP!!!!!11!" "Pretty please stop". You might as well just nip it. Tan ǀ 39 17:24, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

Of course. In fact, I've blocked a few accounts that hadn't been sufficiently warned due to the circumstances and severity of vandalism. A situation with the block of Jlangton80 (talk · contribs) elicited this question. He had some edits in 2007 that appeared to have been made in good faith, but returned this month to vandalize 4 times — pretty run-of-the-mill stuff. The problem was, he was given his first two warnings earlier today, and didn't edit after either of these warnings before being reported and blocked. Under these circumstances, I was just a little bit frustrated, and it wouldn't be the first time. Okiefromokla ^questions? 18:16, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

Look at those last three edits. Immature homophobic attacks against WP:BLPs? This is clear-cut to me. Tan ǀ 39 18:19, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

Hmm. I suppose you're right. Still, in an ideal world, I wish he had been given the chance to vandalize (or not) after being warned of an impending block. It's the thought of being pelted with messages of "you can be blocked in you continue", and then being blocked anyway, that bothers me. But, you're right, his vandalism is a bit more serious than I had initially thought. Okiefromokla ^questions? 18:28, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

Yea, BLP violations are typically dealt with using a heavier hand than other forms of vandalism. He is of course, free to throw up an unblock request, but it doesn't appear he's here to build an encyclopedia. –xeno (talk) 18:31, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

ABN AMRO

Hello again. It looks as if the ABN AMRO is unlocked now. At the writing, the only new edits are positive ones in which the last remaining mentions of "ABN Amro" were corrected to ABN AMRO. So we should watch the article closely to avoid more edit and renaming wars. Steelbeard1 (talk) 17:43, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

I'll keep an eye on it. Thanks, –xeno (talk) 17:44, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

Question

how do you search a pages history for a particular day. in my case WP:RfP on Dec. 3 2006. HereFord 19:06, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

There's an element at the top of the page to offset the history. Just type in 2006 and change it to December. Then click "older" until you get to the date you want. (Alternatively, you could set it to 2006 November and start clicking "newer" that might be faster, or tweak the offset manually). –xeno (talk) 19:10, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

thankyouHereFord 19:14, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

HELP!

I was editing your adoption page and I was going to make my edit count to 99 and then something wrong happened and it looks like vandalism will I get banned quickly turn it bakc normal, p.s. I don't really get your adoption class thing do I get to adopt someone?--Spittlespat (talk) 22:18, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

no, you won't get banned, it was an honest mistake. (fixed) don't worry about updating the edit counts, I update those periodically. be right back to answer the second part of your question. –xeno (talk) 22:21, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

as for adopting, you don't yet have the required experience to be adopting people. the classes are designed to be a tutorial on getting better acquainted with various wikipedia tasks. –xeno (talk) 22:25, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

why am I at your adoption class?

I'm already adopted so why am I at your adoption page?--Spittlespat (talk) 22:33, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

I'm not sure I understand the question... My adoption page lists my adoptees and the adoption class is an optional tutorial section for them. if you mean because you're already adopted by jacob; it's because he didn't quite meet the adopter criteria so I offered to be a co-adopter. –xeno (talk) 22:35, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

ok got it--Spittlespat (talk) 22:38, 9 August 2008 (UTC) Sign my guest book, no one signed it so far except for usesight--Spittlespat (talk) 00:22, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

poke

Question for you at Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/George The Dragon —Giggy 04:19, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

That was sneaky! Enigma ^message 04:27, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

Cookie!

John Sloan (talk) has given you a cookie! Cookies promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by giving someone else a cookie, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Happy munching!

Spread the goodness of cookies by adding {{subst:Cookie}} to their talk page with a friendly message.

Just thought I'd let you know that my Twinkle is now working exactly as I wanted. Thanks for the help with it and enjoy the cookie :-) John Sloan (talk) 11:27, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

Ah - that's good to know. =) Strange that it wouldn't work right away as we configured it. –xeno (talk) 16:47, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

classroom adoption

So these are basically tasks that I can do that cover the areas of being an editor? If so, I would like to do them! JTBX (talk) 13:12, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

Good thing is, we can do them at our leisure (as adoptees) and then report to our mentor as we've done them for review. Of course Xeno can always give us a hand if we need it, happy editing :) Lympathy ^Talk 13:20, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

• Yep, they're various tutorials (some with short assignments) on different aspects of editing Wikipedia. Found at User:Xenocidic/wikiadopt. –xeno (talk) 16:45, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

Thank you both. JTBX (talk) 18:17, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

Tagged.com

Hi Xenocidic - Would you mind looking at the edit history of tagged.com? I fear an edit war is beginning and I'd appreciate your thoughts. Thanks Ucanlookitup (talk) 13:20, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

I'll keep an eye on it but I'll only really be floating around today. –xeno (talk) 16:46, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

User:Hellboy2hell/Crusaders

I was just wondering, could you delete this page? Its because I have no use for it now. Thanks in advance!! From, H2H (talk) 13:31, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

 Done In future you can just add {{db-userreq}} to your user subpages you don't want and they'll get deleted fairly quickly. –xeno (talk) 16:43, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

RE: Hmm

Yes, it would be a good idea to do so. I'd say wait for a couple of weeks (fair enough?). I will find a co-sponsor, it's just I was so busy IRL lately that I couldn't spare the time. Arbiteroftruth (talk) 16:55, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

Sounds good, I'll try and write the nom in the mean-time. –xeno (talk) 16:57, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

User box

Can you please redelete the page? It was created by me, is not used by anyone, and I want rid of it. CSD G7 applies; it doesn't have to be in my user space. It's deletion will not affect the MfD discussion. PC78 (talk) 17:03, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

Yes, my mistake, it's only transcluded in lists of userboxen. G7'd. –xeno (talk) 17:05, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

Thank you. PC78 (talk) 17:07, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

vandal 86.158.236.136

Hi thanks for blocking this vandal, but I need some assistance with him, as he has been ip hopping for a while after his account got a temporary block. Could you perhaps examine his sock puppetry case please? [[User:Giani g|Giani g]] (talk) 17:54, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

Yes, it appears to be something that only a rangeblock can handle, unfortunately, it may be too much collateral damage based on his Internet service provider being quite popular in the UK, I believe. Please link the SSP report in future AIV reports. –xeno (talk) 17:57, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

O btw he just changed ip again, he just reverted everything, k thanks for that advice. [[User:Giani g|Giani g]] (talk) 18:01, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

You may consider making an WP:AN/I report, seeking a rangeblock. –xeno (talk) 18:04, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

this Giani G is clearly a pro indian editor he makes changes to pakistani articles and doesnt even allow changes to indian articles i will edit indian mountains and he will go on to revert please look deeper beyong religion and stop taking sides you may like india but as a editor you must be neutral. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.162.70.179 (talk) 18:06, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

If you have a content dispute, you should log back into your account and seek mediation. –xeno (talk) 18:10, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

its not about content dispute this editor giani g is a nationalist indian who only targets pakistani articles with un sourced data and when i do the same to indian mountains he has a sissy fit i did have a acount but i forgot to sign in one day and edited without it and then giani g pounced my ip is dynamic if you know what that means and blocking me wont acheive nothing look at his biased editing first on pakistani mountains which are un referenced or i shall continue reverting no justice no peace cheers. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.162.70.179 (talk) 18:13, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

If you have a dispute with an editor, the first step would be to seek mediation. See WP:Dispute resolution. Edit warring is unproductive. –xeno (talk) 18:16, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

your not really paying attention look at his edits hes the biased editor dont revert my edits as he provides NO SOURCES please dont take sides. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.162.70.179 (talk) 18:18, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

I'm not taking sides, I'm advising you both to seek mediation. –xeno (talk) 18:21, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

Such a lovely diatribe, I was expecting nothing less, is everyone who disagrees with you Indian? You've used that "I forgot to sign in" excuse a lot, I already asked you to start the topic at the India and Pakistani project pages before diving into edit wars, and I will continue to revert till a new consensus is reached. [[User:Giani g|Giani g]] (talk) 18:25, 10 August 2008 (UTC)