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Ssi-Ruuk

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This article asserts no notability through reliable sources, and is simply a repetition of various plot points from the the Star Wars media articles plot sections, and is therefore totally duplicative and should be deleted. Judgesurreal777 (talk) 23:59, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

• Merge/redirect to The Truce at Bakura- Umbralcorax (talk) 01:13, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
• Delete No reliable and independent sources to establish notability. Totally in-universe. Edison (talk) 02:31, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
• Weak keep University of Sanbra Guide to Intelligent Life: The Chiss is a clearly secondary source that has significant coverage and is largely independent. Throw in secondary books like Star Wars: The Essential Guide to Characters and Ultimate Alien Anthology: Star Wars Roleplaying Game (The second of which I'd argue is also fairly independent) and you've got some reasonable sources. Plus 12,000+ ghits which are a (weak) indication of notability. Hobit (talk) 15:45, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

You have established nothing by listing book titles, as you have no idea what's in them, if they have a lot of information or none of the type needed to establish notability. Also, you are now attempting to copy Le Grand Roi's tactic of using pointless Google hits as an indication of notability, so please stop. Judgesurreal777 (talk) 17:24, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

Um, actually google book searches for the terms work (and give context). Further, there are a number of non-RS that cite these books and article and so I have a very good idea what's in them. Follow the links from the Ssi-Ruuk article. Hobit (talk) 18:31, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

No, you are supposed to link from here any notable resources you have found, not send people on wild goose chases for content that may/may not exist. Again, if you have anything that proves this articles notability, please show it. Judgesurreal777 (talk) 21:31, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

• Merge with The Truce at Bakura. Protonk (talk) 18:53, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
• Delete. Entirely in-universe detail and plot tidbits of a fictional species which has not received substantial coverage from reliable sources independent of the subject. Doctorfluffy (robe and wizard hat) 21:09, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
• Merge into List of Star Wars races (P-T)#Ssi-Ruuk. Ssi-Ruuk#Appearances mentions that the race appears in several novels, not only in The Truce at Bakura, so the universe race article seems to be the better merge target.
  Not notable enough for its own article. --Amalthea^Talk 23:06, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
• Keep per Wikipedia:Five pillars (notability to a real-world audience, unoriginal research, consistent with a “specialized encyclopedia” concerning verifiable fictional topics with importance in the real world) and What Wikipedia is. Multiple hits in on topic published reliable sources equals substantial notability and verifiability worthy of an article. --Happy editing! Sincerely, Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles^Tally-ho! 23:12, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
• Keep per Hobit and Le Grand Roi.--S Marshall ^Talk/_Cont 23:34, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
• Keep as per Hobit, else Merge to List of Star Wars races (P-T)#Ssi-Ruuk. Edward321 (talk) 00:18, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
• Delete and redirec to List of Star Wars races (P-T)#Ssi-Ruuk. Do not merge; the article has no encyclopedic content cited to reliable sources to merge. --EEMIV (talk) 00:49, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
• Keep significant plot elements in major fiction are notable, and if they occur in more than one pace, they warrant an article of their own. There's no need to merge or redirect. DGG (talk) 03:54, 12 August 2008 (UTC)