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Chris Musni

Fails WP:BIO... most search hits come from show listings. No cult following or significant press coverage. He did get second place in "Hong Kong Funniest Person Contest" but outside of a brief mention in Time 1, it isn't a notable contest. Delete Mr. Vernon (talk) 06:49, 20 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Keep I am the article's primary author. There are many reasons to keep this article.

The article has been revised to address some of the original concerns expressed by Mr. Vernon. And despite my requests, Mr. Vernon has not worked with me to try to resolve certain of his comments (such as his belief the the Hong Kong Funniest Person Contest is not notable), although I acknowledge that Mr. Vernon has maintained a cordial dialogue with me on other points. Moreover, the views of one person does not create a consensus necessary to delete the article.
Chris has had significant roles in notable comedy performances in Hong Kong, including sharing the stage with Paul Ogata, Jami Gong and other notable comedians at The TakeOut Comedy Club Hong Kong, a notable club. Thus, the article satisfies one of the explicit criteria of WP:BIO.
Chris has a cult following, albeit within Hong Kong. I admit this point is difficult to demonstrate via published sources. But you should consider that Comedy Central's website is banned in China.^[1] Thus, comedy does not receive a lot of press attention in Asia as a general matter. Stand-up comedy in Hong Kong is an emerging art form, and Chris Musni is one of the leaders, which can be verified through the various show listings that highlight Chris' performances.
Chris has made unique contributions to the field of entertainment. He is one of of only a handful of notable comedians of partial Filipino descent. The fact that he is also leading the emergence of stand-up comedy in china is also unique.
The contest, the HK International Comedy Festival, where Chris finished third is notable. Aside from a discussion in Time, the contest has also been discussed on Punchline magazine [1] and the South China Morning Post [2]. Paul Ogata, a notable comedian, hosted the finals last year and Tom Cotter is hosting this year. The contest is also run by Jami Gong, a notable comedian. Gchuva (talk) 07:09, 20 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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 Fails [[WP:BIO]]... most search hits come from show listings.  No cult following or significant press coverage.  He did get second place in "Hong Kong Funniest Person Contest" but outside of a brief mention in Time [http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1684588,00.html 1], it isn't a notable contest.  '''Delete''' [[User:Mr. Vernon|Mr. Vernon]] ([[User talk:Mr. Vernon|talk]]) 06:49, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
+* '''Keep'''  I am the article's primary author.  There are many reasons to keep this article.
-* I am the article's primary author.  There are many reasons to keep this article.  First, the article has been revised to address some of the original concerns.  Second, Chris does have a cult following, albeit within Hong Kong.  In addition, the contest, the [[HK International Comedy Festival]], is notable.  Aside from a discussion in Time, the contest has also been discussed on Punchline magazine [http://punchlinemagazine.com/blog/stand-up-comedy-around-the-world-a-glance-at-china%E2%80%99s-and-africa%E2%80%99s-scenes] and the South China Morning Post [http://www.takeoutcomedy.com/SCMP.pdf].  [[Paul Ogata]], a notable comedian, hosted the finals last year and Tom Cotter is hosting this year.  The contest is also run by [[Jami Gong]], a notable comedian.  The fact is that Comedy Central's website is banned in China.<ref>http://punchlinemagazine.com/blog/stand-up-comedy-around-the-world-a-glance-at-china%E2%80%99s-and-africa%E2%80%99s-scenes</ref>  Chris Musni is one of the leaders of the emerging stand-up comedy scene in Hong Kong, which can be verified through the various show listings that highlight Chris' performances.  '''Keep''' [[User:Gchuva|Gchuva]] ([[User talk:Gchuva|talk]]) 07:09, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
+# The article has been revised to address some of the original concerns expressed by Mr. Vernon.  And despite my requests, Mr. Vernon has not worked with me to try to resolve certain of his comments (such as his belief the the Hong Kong Funniest Person Contest is not notable), although I acknowledge that Mr. Vernon has maintained a cordial dialogue with me on other points.  Moreover, the views of one person does not create a consensus necessary to delete the article.
+# Chris has had significant roles in notable comedy performances in Hong Kong, including sharing the stage with [[Paul Ogata]], [[Jami Gong]] and other notable comedians at [[The TakeOut Comedy Club Hong Kong]], a notable club.  Thus, the article satisfies one of the explicit criteria of [[WP:BIO]].
+# Chris has a cult following, albeit within Hong Kong.  I admit this point is difficult to demonstrate via published sources.  But you should consider that Comedy Central's website is banned in China.<ref>http://punchlinemagazine.com/blog/stand-up-comedy-around-the-world-a-glance-at-china%E2%80%99s-and-africa%E2%80%99s-scenes</ref>  Thus, comedy does not receive a lot of press attention in Asia as a general matter.  Stand-up comedy in Hong Kong is an emerging art form, and Chris Musni is one of the leaders, which can be verified through the various show listings that highlight Chris' performances.
+# Chris has made unique contributions to the field of entertainment.  He is one of of only a handful of notable comedians of partial Filipino descent.  The fact that he is also leading the emergence of stand-up comedy in china is also unique.
+# The contest, the [[HK International Comedy Festival]], where Chris finished third is notable.  Aside from a discussion in Time, the contest has also been discussed on Punchline magazine [http://punchlinemagazine.com/blog/stand-up-comedy-around-the-world-a-glance-at-china%E2%80%99s-and-africa%E2%80%99s-scenes] and the South China Morning Post [http://www.takeoutcomedy.com/SCMP.pdf].  Paul Ogata, a notable comedian, hosted the finals last year and Tom Cotter is hosting this year.  The contest is also run by Jami Gong, a notable comedian.   [[User:Gchuva|Gchuva]] ([[User talk:Gchuva|talk]]) 07:09, 20 August 2008 (UTC)