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thanks for the shiny!

Wow, thanks! I guess I don't really feel like anything has changed after my RfA. The only difference is that now I use block, protect, and delete rather than AIV, RFPP, and CSD. Cheers! J.delanoy ^gabs _adds 17:51, 17 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Comrade

Thanks for adopting me, lets be friends, by the way i saw you were a socialist that is pretty funny. :)No Hollaback Girl (talk) 10:38, 18 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I gathered as much from the heading you chose, although I do not see what is funny about that. I guess you are underage, so I advise you really try and hide your true age by acting more mature around here. People will not take you seriously if you act like a child, no matter if you really are one. Also, some people will definitely take it personally if you call their political, social or religious conviction "funny", which they will gather as not very WP:CIVIL. You should take care to avoid such things with other people here.

But I will see past this for now and be glad to adopt you, trying to show you how to behave and work here. Your first task is to replace the {{adoptoffer|SoWhy}} on your user page with {{adoptee|SoWhy}}. Come back here, if you have any questions about the project and working here. Regards So Why 10:45, 18 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I hope i didn't offend you with that counter revolutionary comment i was only joking, by the way i am a kid i hope that is okay with you. My question is how can i stop those bourgeois vandals you use a thing called huggle can i get that.No Hollaback Girl (talk) 11:22, 18 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

First off, you do not need to create a new section for every comment, just edit the current one and add the new comment below it (preferably indented with one or multiple ":", depending on how many the person before you used). Second, I am not offended, I just wanted to point out that others might be. Try to heed WP:CIVIL and be extra nice.

Third, I know I was correct regarding your age. You should hide it better though, as I said above, to avoid that it becomes a factor in discussions. It will do so if you show it readily.

Then, for your question: Huggle is a tool for Windows that can be found at WP:HG. You should not use it though until you have made yourself familiar with our policies regarding what constitutes as vandalism (see WP:VAN). It also needs a special flag called rollback which has to be requested independently. You have no edit history to speak of and thus you will certainly fail when trying to request it. You should try and revert vandalism without it for now, using the undo-feature (see the link). You can most likely find such vandalism when looking at Special:Recentchanges. Regards So Why 11:34, 18 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, I know

Sorry, I should have noted the reason I posted on AN/I instead of RFPP. I was an admin once also, and amongst other things I actually started WP:AN. :-) Tbsdy lives (talk) 11:36, 18 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, you were? Well, that makes one of us then ;-)

But okay, thanks for the message, I appreciate telling me. I just assumed you were an user who does not know the way and I tried to be helpful. Well, we both learnt something from it so it was not that bad. Have a nice day! :-) So Why 11:44, 18 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It's cool - I was actually surprised and happy that there are helpful people on Wikipedia! - Tbsdy lives (talk) 10:11, 19 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It will only be a minor amendment...

Sorry, SoWhy, I have a bit of a convoluted question for you!

I've noticed while reading about the United States Constitution that most articles on amendments to the Constitution are considered proper and capitalised as such, including the word Amendment itself. For example, Child Labor Amendment. There are several amendments in one place at List of proposed amendments to the United States Constitution, and scanning through that I see that each page on a specific amendment has been capitalised.

At United States Constitution#Unratified amendments I noticed that the article Titles of Nobility amendment does not capitalise the word amendment, which is different from the way that the others have been done. There is a redirect at Titles of Nobility Amendment and I checked its move log–there is nothing there to suggest that it used to be capitalised and was then changed. I also checked the history of the current article and see that it was created in 2003, and that the redirect was created a whole year later.

I've read the guidelines on WP:Naming conventions (capitalization) and have followed lots of the links to other related guidelines, and don't see anything specific on amendments. My best guess is that consistency is the ideal, and that as the majority of amendments have been capitalised, that this one should be, too. I'm a little bit wary, though, of making the move, or even suggesting it on the talk page. Do you think I should be bold and move "Titles of Nobility amendment" to "Titles of Nobility Amendment", putting the redirect at the former article instead, or should I propose it on the talk page first, or do you think I should keep my nose out of it and leave it all as is?

Hope that wasn't too confusing. :-/ Thanks! Maedin\^talk 12:45, 18 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

First off, nice play on words with the heading ;-)

Then, about your question: I'd say it falls into the "proper name" category, i.e. the word "amendment" is usually written with a capitalized "A" and is even done so in the article itself (and has not been challenged). Moving it should not cause any problems but just confirm that. You should be bold more often. In such cases, just move it over the redirect or if that does not work, request it at WP:RM. All that can happen is that someone moves it back or denies the request. Then you can always discuss it at the talk page. If you don't want to be that bold, just post at the talk page. Maybe there is a good reason noone added yet. Or maybe noone bothered to fix it until now. You cannot learn without being willing to risk to make mistakes. Be glad that no mistakes at Wikipedia are permanent :-) So Why 12:55, 18 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ok. I will try to be bold about it. Now I have to decide if I can move it myself or if I should go to WP:RM. I followed your link and it looks scary! :)))))

Glad you enjoyed the play on words. It gets better.

So, why the username?

Thank you for your reply! Oh, and congrats on the new adoptee! Maedin\^talk 19:42, 18 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Do that. Try to move it yourself, I am uncertain whether you can move stuff over a redirect without being an admin or you need to request a move. You will see :-)

Why the username? Well, that's quite simple: "So, why?" is my usual reaction to many things I do not understand. I always strive to understand them and thus I ask "why" they are that way ;-)

Well, thanks for the congrats. We will see if she is one to stay. My other two adoptees are inactive, you prove to be a rare find. As I said before, you are destined for more in the future :-) So Why 19:58, 18 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I tried to move it, but it didn't work straight away so I listed it at WP:RM under the Uncontroversial moves section. An admin moved it shortly after that, hurray! No complaints so far. Thank you for your help and encouragement :)

I wondered if "So, why?" was the reason, I like it. Intelligent curiosity is one of those key things, in my opinion, that helps to make "the difference".

I hope she sticks around, too, but retention is notoriously poor. It's a potluck, so you just keep fishing, :-) Have a great Friday, nearly the weekend! Cheers, Maedin\^talk 08:04, 19 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

See, I told you it's no big deal. Most things aren't and if they really are, you can usually talk about it. I like the way you phrased the request too, very good reasoning :-)

Glad we agree on that. It's correct as well, because if you are not curious, how can you learn? It's my core being curious on why things are the way they are. That and being really rational to the point that people sometimes call me cold-hearted. But that's a price I gladly pay ;-) But that's the reason of my nickname (that and because "RationalGuy" just sounds lame^^)

Well, we can't all love Wikipedia, there must be people around to do other things or else all hell will break loose. ;-) You too have a great day, I for myself will try to despite sitting in a library, trying to read some boring essay... So Why 08:16, 19 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ahoy, matey! Shiver me timbers, if ye ain't right, no big deal a'tall! I spy meself boldness on the horizon, full sail, ho!

Aye & avast, 'tis truth. Curiosity & SoWhy be a good thing, I'll warrant, and "RationalGuy" be buried in Davy Jones' Locker!

I reckon me unfit to answer ye third paragraph, us pirates ain't so literate as to know all them clever learnin' words. Which is to say, that I can't figure out how to say anything else in pirate. I give up!

Anchors aweigh! Maedin\^talk 12:42, 19 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Avast, ye saucy wench. A wench of me likin ye be, yarr. Tis be good seas to sail on, me lass! Arrrr, let us be sailin for tis horizon, yarr!

Arrrr, me be happy with tis words ye be speakin, arrr! Tis be fillin me heart with joy! And rum, yarrr!

Me be hopin ye be hostin the colors an' sailin off to be plunderin! Keel-haul those lubbers, arrr! So Arrr!Why 12:58, 19 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

LOL! Thank you so much!! You just made my day! :-))))

And a pirate after me own heart, ye be! Hoist the jolly roger, rig the sails, uncork the bottle, ahoy! Maedin\^talk 14:48, 19 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you

Hi SoWhy. I would like to thank you for your support in my RfA and the confidence expressed thereby. It is very much appreciated. :) The RfA was closed as successful with 73 supports, 3 opposes and 4 neutral. I would especially like to thank WBOSITG for nominating me. Best wishes and thanks again, —αἰτίας •discussion• 22:51, 18 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Re: User:Leahtwosaints

Hey, sorry I didn't get back to you right away. I intended to, then got bogged down with on and off wiki stuff. My activity is actually waning as of late due to personal issues, so I won't be able to adopt User:Leahtwosaints. By all means, if you have the time, adopt him/her : ) Cheers mate. Wisdom89 _{(_T / ^C)} 20:39, 19 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for replying. I will see if I decide to. Got 4 of them already, luckily two are inactive, but nonetheless. Cheers me matey ;-) So Arrr!Why 21:09, 19 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Why...

...didn't you tell me you did this? Synergy 06:25, 20 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I am sorry, I did not think it very important, more of a housecleaning task. I just figured that noone can use an infobox that is not in it's own article and so I thought it best to move it there. I thought you are watching the essay anyway and will notice it in the history. Sorry if you haven't, I will take care to tell you such things in the future. Thanks for telling me. Regards. So Why 07:16, 20 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Arr me hearty (sorry its one day late)

hello how are you. I got an antivandal tool which is pretty awesome. Any advice, Bye. by the way i found these things called barn stars and think you should get one

		The Guidance Barnstar
		message No Hollaback Girl (talk) 06:37, 20 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Well, good for you. You should read up on barnstars though, you need to replaced the "message" part with a personal message as to why you give this user a barnstar. Once you figured that out, you should give them out freely but do not overdo it. Otherwise people will not think they are a real sign of appreciation and that would not be a good thing. Have a nice day So Why 07:13, 20 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

P.S.: I am using the {{talkback}} (or {{tb}}) template to notify you of my replies here. It's just a short reminder and you should remove them from your talkpage by removing the {{tb|SoWhy}} at the top. So Why 07:21, 20 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Dispute resolution

I understand that the approach for handling the underlying issue ("present" vs. numeric dates) is dispute resolution, but when did dispute resolution become the appropriate avenue to pursue NPA violations. Once he started with the names, they haven't stopped ... started with lazy, went to army brat, and proceeded to pain in the ass without a sense of humor on WP:ANI. There is admin intervention required ... an admonition to Mr. Cupertino that WP:NPA is policy, and warning him that he will be blocked even if others decide that he is right in the underlying dispute.Kww (talk) 18:29, 20 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Please read WP:NPA fully. It also says that the first step to respond such attacks should be seeking dispute resolution (Wikipedia:NPA#Initial options). Reports to WP:AN or especially WP:ANI should be avoided in all cases that are not completely severe. Regards So Why 18:35, 20 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

jeffpw

Hi, Thanks again for helping me, would it be ok to remove that section now? Ill leave it up to you «l| Ψrom3th3ăn ™|l» (talk) 10:52, 21 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You are welcome, glad I could be of help. You may remove it of course if you think it wise. Thank you for asking though. So Why 10:54, 21 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

insomnia

so will you talk to me? i only effed up that article for attention —Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.227.3.195 (talk) 11:25, 21 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Excuse me? What exactly do you want? I am sorry to say but this is not a community site but an encyclopedia. You should try MySpace or suchlike if you want someone to talk to. So Why 11:27, 21 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

insomnia redux

but why? trolling is so much more fun on wikipedia! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.227.3.195 (talk) 12:57, 21 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Actually it is no fun at all, destroying the work of thousands of people. It's more likely childish and immature. I advise you seek another platform for that, because you will only be banned if you continue here. So Why 13:05, 21 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

sohey

aw, c'mon now, i thought we were building a relationship here! you can't just dump and ban me! we have a commitment! i want to make this wooork, don't leave me!

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