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*'''Nominating''' [[2008 Morelia bombings]] in [[Morelia, Mexico]]. [[User:Scanlan|Scanlan]] ([[User talk:Scanlan|talk]]) 02:09, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
*'''Nominating''' [[2008 Morelia bombings]] in [[Morelia, Mexico]]. [[User:Scanlan|Scanlan]] ([[User talk:Scanlan|talk]]) 02:09, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
: Posted at the bottom of ITN. --[[User:PFHLai|PFHLai]] ([[User talk:PFHLai|talk]]) 04:43, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
: Posted at the bottom of ITN. --[[User:PFHLai|PFHLai]] ([[User talk:PFHLai|talk]]) 04:43, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
WIKIPEDIA CONTINUES TO ALLOW a SINGER CALLED SANTOGOLD TO DISPLAY HER PAGE AS SANTOGOLD. SHE IS BEING SUED BY THE REAL SANTO GOLD WHO HAS USED THE NAME FOR 23 YEARS AND OWNS ALL OF THE COMMON RIGHTS OF THE NAME. YOU CAN VOICE YOUR COMMENTS AT WWW.SANTOGOLD.COM

Revision as of 16:49, 21 September 2008

This page provides editors a forum to suggest items for inclusion in Template:In the news (ITN), a protected Main Page template, as well as the forum for discussion of candidates.

This candidates page is integrated with the daily pages of Portal:Current events. Under each daily section header below is the transcluded Portal:Current events items for that day (with a light green header). Each day's portal page is followed by a subsection for suggestions and discussion.

Suggestions

In order to suggest a candidate:

  • Start, find or modify a blurb directly in the light green box for that day's Current events.
  • Update an article linked to from the blurb to include the recent developments, or find an article that has already been updated.
  • Nominate the blurb for ITN inclusion under that day's ITN Candidates subheading, emboldening the link to the updated article.
    For standard entry styles, please see WP:In the news section on the Main Page/Style.
Joseph Aoun
Joseph Aoun

There are criteria guiding the decision on whether or not to put a particular item on In the news, based largely on the extensiveness of the updated content and the perceived significance of the recent developments. Submissions that do not follow the guidelines at Wikipedia:In the news section on the Main Page will not be put into the live template.

Sample candidate discussion

It doesn't seem to have any references for the new content. --They've also signed their comment 12:06, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
I went ahead and added some citations. It should be ready now. --User's Name 12:07, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
Looks good. Posted. --Responding administrator 12:10, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

And so on. When continuing the discussion please refrain from using dot points/bullets to allow the candidates to stand out from the discussion. Indent your comments for clarity.

Please refrain from straight support or oppose votes; focus the discussion on the merits of the available candidate items.

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September 21

ITN candidates for September 21

September 20

ITN candidates for September 20

Article okay...could be expanded, but an update is needed. BobAmnertiopsisChatMe! 18:49, 20 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Article needs more updates, but otherwise, it's a good candidate. SpencerT♦C 21:24, 20 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support, but I would prefer an article about the current crisis/development in South African politics, how Mbeki was "sacked" etc. Polipopo (talk) 02:38, 21 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Posted. When we have a page on the current crisis, we can switch the bolded link on ITN to that page. --PFHLai (talk) 04:17, 21 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

September 19

ITN candidates for September 19

  • If someone created and article for the 2008 Nigerian Oil Crisis, I think we could have a good candidate...I've been seeing several stories in Portal:Current events days about related stuff. 00:36, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

September 18

ITN candidates for September 18

Tzipi Livni
Tzipi Livni

NominateForeign Minister of Israel Tzipi Livni is selected as the new leader of the Kadima party, putting her in line to become Prime Minister.

It's in the portal news under Sept. 17, but I think the full results weren't confirmed until today. —Josiah Rowe (talkcontribs) 04:42, 18 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Can we wait until she actually becomes the Prime Minister? - Mark 05:00, 18 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I was thinking that the change of party leadership in a parliamentary system was roughly equivalent to the nomination of the Presidential candidates in the US — Obama and McCain made ITN when they secured the leadership of their parties, so why shouldn't Livni? —Josiah Rowe (talkcontribs) 08:14, 18 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
That was rather controversial and really only got through because of the level of international coverage the/this US election buildup is receiving. (Plus with Obama since he was the first African American.) Changes of leadership of parties in countries with parliamentry systems are not necessarily uncommon (for example one happened several days ago in Australia) and definitely are not usually ITN worthy in themselves (the change of leader of opposition for example is definitely not in itself of sufficient significance for ITN). If there is something special about this change (is she the first female leader of a major party in Israel?) then there may be a case, but if the only thing here is she may become the Prime Minister then we should wait until she becomes Prime Minister. If she doesn't become Prime Minister then really there's no reason it should have been there anyway. Nil Einne (talk) 13:23, 18 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I think this was discussed before. It is not for sure she will become PM, she's only the predisent of the party now. We can put this on when she becomes PM. --Tone 13:49, 18 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Nominate 'Lloyds TSB complete a £12.2bn takeover of rival HBOS, the United Kingdom's largest mortgage lender' -- Huge repecussion of current economic crisis and one not in the US! Also it will create one of the largest financial institutions in the world --Daviessimo (talk) 06:47, 18 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Support adding this to the current item on the subprime mortgage crisis and rewording accordingly. Perhaps something like "In the ongoing subprime mortgage crisis, Lloyds TSB purchases rival HBOS, the United States Federal Reserve bails out AIG, Lehman Brothers files for bankruptcy protection, and Bank of America purchases Merrill Lynch." —Josiah Rowe (talkcontribs) 07:01, 18 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
This blurb is becoming longer and longer, maybe we should drop one or two events that happened a few days ago and focus on the latest? --Tone 13:49, 18 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Drop the Merrill Lynch-Bank of America story for this one. Or the AIG story since nothing really happened yet. –Howard the Duck 16:56, 18 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I do not support Lloyds news. Not as big as US corp news. --gppande «talk» 18:26, 18 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Oh so the rule is now that only US firms or banks going belly up are 'big' enough to get on ITN. £12.2bn is over $21Bn which is huge some of money. Also the newly merged firm will have over 35m customers and even with the expected 40,000 job losses will employ over 100,000 people (which is 4 times more than Lehmann brothers about 15,000 fewer than AIG). Oh but I forgot AIG 'nearly' collapsing is a bigger than this 'actual' development --Daviessimo (talk) 19:38, 18 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Posted, by dropping Merrill Lynch from the existing blurb, adding in the HBOS news and rejigging it a bit. The fourth and fifth biggest banks in the United Kingdom merging is definitely 'as big as US corp news'. And HBOS is bigger than Merrill Lynch anyway. - Mark 03:04, 19 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Suggestion Can the blurb be shortened down? -c4v3m4n 03:18, 19 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, but the other side of the Main Page is unusually long today, so we'd end up having to add some old news back on the end to balance it out. - Mark 03:32, 19 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, hopefully shortened down enough now. - Mark 03:44, 19 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • I definitely support this news piece as well and I agree with the removal of Merrill Lynch since both AIG and Lehman supersede that item in terms of market impact. Given the condition of English financial markets, we definitely need more coverage of the subprime crisis in the UK too. Cumulus Clouds (talk) 04:18, 19 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support, we usually include such type of news. --Tone 13:49, 18 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support. --gppande «talk» 18:26, 18 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support. New national leaders are always newsworthy. Benjaminx (talk) 22:09, 18 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Posted. - Mark 03:04, 19 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

September 17

ITN candidates for September 17

Posted. No one objects, eh? --PFHLai (talk) 03:05, 21 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'd suggest an update to the lead Subprime Crisis item indicating that Lehman Brothers is to be partially acquired by Barclays plc. Radagast (talk) 21:06, 17 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I posted at blurb near the bottom of ITN about the state of emergency and the arrest of the Governor of Pando. Please feel free to update the blurb as the story develops. --PFHLai (talk) 05:40, 20 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Done. Wording: 16 are killed in an attack on the American embassy in San‘a’, Yemen.
Should American embassy link to United States–Yemen relations? Thanks, SpencerT♦C 02:26, 18 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Posted. - Mark 03:25, 18 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

September 16

ITN candidates for September 16

Support IF the parliament has officially been dissolved because snap elections are normally ITN material --Daviessimo (talk) 10:00, 16 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Snap elections announcement makes it to ITN. Otherwise... maybe, what would the headline be? Even the formation of different government would be ITN. Let's wait a day or two to see the development. --Tone 11:36, 16 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Coalition is down; posted.--chaser - t 03:06, 17 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - as it is now - "related to the South Ossetia war" - it gives an wp:undue weight to South Ossetia war as a main reason of the crisis. This is disputable and sources like BBC doesn't even mention the war as a reason for the crisis. See also latest edits to the article and article talk page. --windyhead (talk) 17:39, 17 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment - The New York Times has reported that American International Group may file for bankruptcy protection as early as Wednesday, September 17. This would be the largest bankruptcy in United States history and possibly the largest bankruptcy in world history. AIG is the largest insurance company in the world and its collapse will, according to the Times, have far reaching global financial impact. This could be combined with the news on Lehman and Merrill Lynch, provided that it's reposted at the top to provide more updated coverage. Otherwise, it can stand by itself as a major news event. Cumulus Clouds (talk) 16:44, 16 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Support if this happens and if the article is updated properly. From natural didasters to bank disasters in a couple of days... --Tone 17:10, 16 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Gov't rescue added to the other news items.--chaser - t 03:06, 17 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The AIG item seems to be toing the line of WP:CRYSTALBALL... "The Federal Reserve rescues insurer AIG from likely bankruptcy"...yes, I know it was probably going to happen. Can we have a change of wording, say (?) "The Federal Reserve loans AIG $85 billion, ..." SpencerT♦C 11:04, 17 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Wording looks much better now. Thanks, SpencerT♦C 22:33, 17 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

September 15

ITN candidates for September 15

  • Nominating Lehman Brothers bankruptcy. Very important development of the US banking crisis with international ramidications. Dovetails with the takeover of Fannie and Freddie, and shows that the crisis is far from over and that the entire US banking system is verging on collapse, a collapse which many assert would cause a meltdown of the global financial system. Very, very serious. __meco (talk) 06:56, 15 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
We need a headline with no redlinks. Anyways, pls see on-going discussion on Subprime mortgage crisis and related wikiarticles at #ITN candidates for September 14 below. --199.71.174.100 (talk) 07:16, 15 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
That sounds good to me. Although the emboldened link should be power-sharing agreement so it links to the 2008 Zimbabwean political negotiations article which has more info --Daviessimo (talk) 10:07, 16 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Upon further review, we can't put this on ITN yet. Tsvangirai has not yet taken office. The 'new' post has to be (re)created by a constitutional amendment, which won't be done till next month. --PFHLai (talk) 05:58, 20 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Posted at the bottom of ITN. --PFHLai (talk) 04:43, 21 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]