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September 18

All about ME!!

Hey Everyone My Name is Bess

I have a world record of being able to hold my breath under water for an hour!
Also, Jerry Jones the owner of Dallas Cowboys Is my Grandfather!
I own over a hundered Jones Soda Bottles
My Cat thinks She is Running for President, she has yet to find a running mate!
My Car cost me over a million dollars after fixing it up!! danngggg —Preceding unsigned comment added by LuckyBear2321 (talk • contribs) 03:02, 18 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Good for you! Paragon ¹²³²¹ 03:07, 18 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps you might want to consider starting a wordpress blog where you can post your thoughts, instead of wasting our time here. - Icewedge (talk) 03:43, 18 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Or posting your "bio" at Wikipopuli or Wikibios.

Bodies Exhibition.jpg

There's some problem with the image Image:Bodies Exhibition.jpg that prevents it from displaying properly, but I don't know what's wrong or how to fix it. The current version has a working thumbnail, but the image is presumably at http:/upwiki/wikipedia/en/4/46/Bodies_Exhibition.jpg which gives a 404. The image is accessible in a previous version http:/upwiki/wikipedia/en/archive/4/46/20071207053717%21Bodies_Exhibition.jpg but the thumbnail doesn't work. What's going on and how can this be fixed? —Chris Capoccia ^T⁄_C 07:04, 18 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure where the file went. It seems there has been a lot of image problems recently. I've uploaded a new version of the file. Scotty dude _review 15:31, 18 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Image server has been hiccuping lately. Gary King (talk) 19:31, 18 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

edits and deletion of pages

I generally look at new pages and then if they are no good, I put them up for speedy deletion. 99 times out of 100, the page is then deleted. But after that happens, in 'my contributions', that edit that I made putting the speedy deletion tag on that age dissapears.

with the disappearance, does my edit still count on my edit counter (are you with me??)

thanks heaps. Aflumpire (talk) 11:31, 18 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

According to WP:EC, the count shown in Special:Preferences is not changed. Zain Ebrahim (talk) 11:41, 18 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted edits are not counted in various other edit counters, however. Algebraist 12:06, 18 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Apparently, once the article is deleted, they are listed as "deleted contributions" and do not show in the contributions list any more. Chamal ^Talk ± 11:59, 18 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Your speedy tagging edit does become a deleted contribution. However, if you have also alerted the author of the page to the speedy tagging, then this second edit will remain and will give you an easy record of the speedy tagging you made. When you add a SD tag to a page, the template that appears contains a message to you, requesting that you consider also placing a message on the author's talk page. It even provides a line of code that you can cut and paste in order to do so. For example: Please consider placing the template: {{subst:empty-warn|Wikipedia:Help desk|header=1}} ~~~~ If you do this, and use an edit summary along the lines of Warning author re SD nomination of [[Unsuitable Pagetitle]], you'll have a record of your edit in your own contribution history. Ka renjc 15:17, 18 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Deleted contributions are still logged, however due to the sensitive nature of certain deletions, Special:DeletedContributions is only accessible by administrators. Preferences still counts them, and certain edit counters do as well (my userpage links to one near the bottom). However, don't get too hung up on WP:Editcountitis. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 16:44, 18 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Blanking a page

Resolved

Hi, how do I blank a page? When I just remove all of the content, the link at the top of the page remains blue, even though there isn't anything on the page. Thanks, TheMoridian 13:09, 18 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Do you mean you want to delete a page? If the page is in your userspace or is an article that you created and no other user has contributed significantly to it, you can blank the page or request speedy deletion by adding a {{db-author}} tag. Or you can simply ask an admin to delete it. Do not blank any other page, as this is likely to be taken as vandalism. Please see Wikipedia:Deletion policy. Cheers. Chamal ^Talk ± 13:24, 18 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I think this is about User talk:Themoridian/workshop, right? If the page is not deleted after some time, you can tag it for deletion as explained above or ask an admin to delete it for you (or you can tag it now itself, of course). Cheers :) Chamal ^Talk ± 13:28, 18 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Help Editing A Page

Resolved

– answered on Talk:Delaware North Companies

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Delaware_North_Companies

Would someone look into the talk section of this page and respond to my editing question. I'd like to move forward with some edits. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cwhit3134 (talk • contribs) 16:07, 18 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Answered on talk page above. Gtstricky^{Talk or C} 18:15, 18 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Reporting possible copyright violation

Where's the right place for me to report a possible copyright violation - not IN wikipedia, but OF wikipedia. An article in the English Daily Mail [1] seems to have large chunks copy-and-pasted straight out of the Wikipedia article on Ray Mears. Thanks. Beve (talk) 16:44, 18 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I think WP:MF is the only relevant page we have. Equendil Talk 17:23, 18 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

See also: WP:REUSE. Andy Mabbett (User:Pigsonthewing); Andy's talk; Andy's edits 21:50, 18 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Why not simply inform the next largest newspaper in your town, and let them publish the story? DOR (HK) (talk) 03:30, 19 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

HTML Code for Text Box

I'd like to to add a framed text box on the right of my page. I can't find the code anywhere. P C McKinnon (talk) 17:00, 18 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Do you need an infobox? Andy Mabbett (User:Pigsonthewing); Andy's talk; Andy's edits 17:10, 18 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yes........I want to add a few poems on the right of the page P C McKinnon (talk) 17:15, 18 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

See {{quote box2}} --—— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk - 17:17, 18 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Great! It works.......thanks Gadget P C McKinnon (talk) 18:00, 18 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

BTW- anything you publish here is released under the GNU Free Documentation License. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk - 19:05, 18 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Accused of "vandalism" by adding a fact

New here. I added a line in bold on the Trekkie Puppet wiki page. It talks about how highly collectable these puppets are. We are the manufacturer and went through hell designing and producing these puppets. The line I added in bold said: The Trekkie puppets were made by Folkmanis. First of all, this isn't VANDALISM. It's a fact. If it's considered commercial, well, I could argue that but it remains a FACT. Please advise. puppetalchemist —Preceding unsigned comment added by Puppetalchemist (talk • contribs) 18:37, 18 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

First, Wikipedia is not a collection of facts. It is a collection of references. So, to ensure that this "fact" will not be deleted, it must be "referenced." Second, why was it in bold? That is most likely why it was deleted. There is no reason to have that in bold. Third, did you ask the person who removed it why he or she did so? Running here first indicates that you do not want to work with the other user. Finally, see WP:COI. If you work for Folkmanis and you are trying to make edits about Folkmanis, then you are in a conflict of interest. -- kainaw ™ 18:56, 18 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

A user making their second edit to a help page cannot fairly be accused of "running here" to avoid working with other editors. Please assume good faith, especially on the part of new editors. Andy Mabbett (User:Pigsonthewing); Andy's talk; Andy's edits 20:20, 18 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

To "talk" to other users, you would use what we call talk pages. Wikipedia's talk pages can be somewhat jarring to new users who are usually more familiar with e-mail and Internet forums. However, as with most things on Wikipedia, once you learn how to use our talk pages, they have some nice features. I like that on talk pages we can use the full wikitext markup, for example by adding links with minimal extra typing. People who are fluent on Wikipedia tend to put links in almost every sentence; it saves much typing, since we rely on standard documents to define all our jargon and so on. To understand what kainaw wrote, you will need to read these pages: WP:RS, WP:NPOV, WP:V, and WP:BFAQ in addition to WP:COI. Also note the difference between policies and guidelines. Policies are for the most part non-negotiable on Wikipedia, but guidelines allow for some flexibility in interpretation. For example, WP:V is a policy, whereas WP:RS and WP:COI are guidelines. Having a conflict of interest on a topic means you have to take extra care to maintain neutrality, but it does not preclude you from editing. It does mean that statistically speaking, you may be prone to some types of common editing problems that correlate with having a conflict of interest - such as a temptation to lapse into promotional language. But as far as correcting a factual error, if you have reliable sources to back up your claim, a source is a source and it doesn't necessarily matter what you personally feel about a topic. --Teratornis (talk) 23:11, 18 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Can't find "proportional to" symbol in character insert thingy.

Looks like "∝" (not a "α".). Thanks. Saintrain (talk) 20:12, 18 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You can request it be added at MediaWiki talk:Edittools. You can also create custom edittools: see MediaWiki talk:Edittools#User-added functions to edittools. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk - 20:52, 18 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It can be added with &prop; which produces ∝. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:09, 18 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Woohoo! Look what I can do! ∝∝∝∝∝∝∝∝! Thanks both. Saintrain (talk) 22:55, 18 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Can't find my changes - what have I done wrong?

On August 25th in the afternoon I made lots of changes to a page that had been flagged as reading as "advertising" (http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=IBM_WebSphere_Application_Server). When I finished with my changes I saved them and went back in to view them later and all seemed well with the world. Now I can't find my changes and the log says it hasn't been changed since August 15th! So, I have to assume I did something wrong. I was using Safari on a Mac - which I have mentioned in case it is something to do with caching. So I can avoid making the mistake again, could someone advise me as to what I most likely did wrong, please? —Preceding unsigned comment added by ColinRenouf (talk • contribs) 20:53, 18 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

There are edits on IBM WebSphere dated August 25th, is there a chance you had actually edited that article instead of IBM WebSphere Application Server? --- Barek (talk • contribs) - 20:58, 18 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, but it was definitely the IBM WebSphere Application Server page as I added information about the EJB3 feature pack, removed the word beta from something released a year ago, and then added some things about the internals. Would it make any difference that it I had only set the account up in the morning of the 25th? —Preceding unsigned comment added by ColinRenouf (talk • contribs) 21:08, 18 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

According to your contributions list, you haven't made any edits other than the two to this page. So you very likely made those contributions under your IP address instead of this username, just to clear one thing up. But because that page doesn't show any edits since August 15, I think we can definitely say that you didn't edit that page- or rather, that your edits weren't saved. I suppose you'll just have to redo them, and be sure that they actually save next time. --Alinnisawest,^{Dalek Empress} (extermination requests here) 21:15, 18 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I've provided a welcome menu template to the user, which includes information - if the user is stuck with anything he/she could request assistance here or request help from any user who's willing to help out. Terra 21:22, 18 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

A mistake I sometimes make is to use Preview to check my edits and then absentmindedly navigate away from the page without actually saving them. Might that be what you did? Deor (talk) 21:12, 19 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Magazines

I'm working on improving a biography of a religious figure, and I'd like the use information released by the church in the form of a magazine (copies of which are online). Should I use a cite web or cite book template, or some other third thing totally unrelated? Thanks. Intothewoods29 (talk) 22:41, 18 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

{{Cite web}} is often a pretty good choice when you don't know what else to use. However, it's hard for someone to answer this question without being able to see the source you have in mind. See WP:CITET for a list of citation templates you can use (the standard three guidelines for citing sources are WP:FOOT, WP:CITE, and WP:CITET). Also, does this source count as reliable? If you aren't sure, you can ask on Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard. --Teratornis (talk) 22:55, 18 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Oops I guess I was being a bit vague there. :P It's the magazine Liahona distributed by The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, linked here. It's a magazine, and the text is put online on the church's website. Would cite journal work? Thanks for being patient. Sometimes I honestly don't know if there's anything in my head. ;) Intothewoods29 (talk) 23:04, 18 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

One of the hardest parts of communicating is being consciously aware of which parts of your knowledge another person does not share. Developing that awareness may almost be the entire basis of clear communication. Journalists learn to answer the "who, what, when, where, how, and why" questions when they describe a topic or event. People who haven't trained as journalists may have a harder time putting themselves in the reader's shoes. It certainly isn't natural for most of us. It's even much less natural for computers (so far). Anyway, to your question, when I am not sure what to do on Wikipedia, I like to look for examples of what other people have done. That doesn't necessarily determine what we should do (see Wikipedia:Other stuff exists), but it can give us ideas. We could try searching for this magazine with {{Google wikipedia}}:

Search Wikipedia with Google for: Liahona

I had to scroll a few pages into the results to find some citations. Check out these articles for example: Elaine S. Dalton, August Höglund, and Benjamín de Hoyos. It looks like various editors have used a variety of citation styles; this is pretty typical for Wikipedia. I'd suggest using whatever citation template provides the necessary fields. {{Cite journal}} is probably fine. {{Cite web}} has enough fields that it works for almost any online reference, but {{Cite journal}} is more specific so you could use that. --Teratornis (talk) 23:26, 18 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. Intothewoods29 (talk) 23:33, 18 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Edit missing from watchlist

A comment by a vandal on my user page at 23:04 on 18 September does not appear on my watchlist. The subsequent removal of this by another editor does appear, as do previous edits by the same vandal. Can anyone explain why? Thanks RolandR (talk) 23:44, 18 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I guess you mean this edit to your talk page at 22:04 UTC. I can see it on a watchlist and have no explanation why you cannot. There is no combination of watchlists settings which should at the same time hide this edit and show the preceding edit by that IP (there are settings which would hide both of them). PrimeHunter (talk) 00:30, 19 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, there were so many edits in the "Main" section of my watchlist, that I couldn't see, and forgot to check, the "User talk" section. RolandR (talk) 08:04, 19 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

September 19

Is it possible?

Is it possible to change your username?--Dale S. Satre 00:05, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Changing username. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk - 00:08, 19 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

using Wikipedia photographs in a newsletter

Hello - I am the editor of a monthly "Trail Talk" newsletter as part of the City of San Diego's Mission Trails Regional Park docent program. We would like to use some of the pictures that are published on the Wikipedia web site for our newsletter. What do I need to do to get permission to do this?

thank you! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.27.91.137 (talk) 00:19, 19 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Please see Wikipedia:Reusing Wikipedia content. A few things to note: Any image on Wikipedia that is used as fair use, is not our image at all. We are claiming fair use of someone else's copyrighted work. You would need to do the same, or get permission just as if Wikipedia had never used the image. Also, many of the images one sees here are not actually uploaded to Wikipedia. It is content from the Wikimedia Commons (another Wikimedia project). For any such media, please visit Commons:Reusing content outside Wikimedia. Cheers.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 01:22, 19 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Portal selection

Is there a portal that says a message like, "This user hopes to one day join the USAF" & "This user is considered the class nerd at his school?"--Archeopteryx (talk) 00:32, 19 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I think you're confusing a portal with a userbox. You can check out a wide variety of userboxes at the Gallery. You could even make new ones for yourself! --Alinnisawest,^{Dalek Empress} (extermination requests here) 03:50, 19 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia is like the world's biggest playground for nerds. Especially nerds who like to RTFM. Welcome aboard, and get to know the Editor's index. --Teratornis (talk) 23:56, 19 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Article redirect

My article on the Canton of Saint-Martin-de-Ré was redirected to the commune of Saint-Martin-de-Ré which contains no information at all on the canton. I don't see the a talk page or anywhere I can dispute this. Can someone who understands redirect please look over this. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Madridrealy (talk • contribs) 02:32, 19 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The talk page is located at Talk:Canton of Saint-Martin-de-Ré; the talk page for any article is found at the tab labeled "discussion" at the top of the page. --Alinnisawest,^{Dalek Empress} (extermination requests here) 03:52, 19 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Public housing in the United States and Canada split

I completed a requested split of Public housing in the United States and Canada into Public housing in the United States and Public housing in Canada. My question is, should Public housing in the United States and Canada now be deleted or does it remain somehow to preserve the edit history? WP:SPLIT was not quite clear as its instructions seemed to deal with part of an article being split off, not an entire article being split into two completely new articles. Thanks. TheMolecularMan (talk) 03:21, 19 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

My impulse would be to redirect that title to Public housing, which should summarize both the United States and Canada Public Housing articles - note that the current summary still combines the two. No need to delete the page, since - as you note - we should keep the history. Redirects are cheap, though. UltraExactZZ ^Claims~ Evidence 14:37, 19 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, that's exactly what I needed. TheMolecularMan (talk) 15:37, 19 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

New member questions

I just joined today, because there's several music articles I'd like to update. I've been trying to read as much of the polices and such that I can, but I'm confused about 4 things in particular: 1. Some of the articles have no main picture (or any at all) and I'd like to add them - I download band photos off photobucket, so how I can list the photographer's/owner's name, or does that rule apply to public-distributed pictures?
2. A few bands have pictures, but there's newer photos available - do I have to get permission from the previous editor to change it?
3. A couple pages need updates for album/dvd releases and details - I can add on the the existing list?
4. Is it okay to quote (substantial) information from interviews in magazines/media/etc., as long as the source is listed?
Thank you very much for any help.MomoC.VK (talk) 03:42, 19 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not up on my image use policy, so I can't help you with 1, but in regards to the others...

2. One of the basic things about Wikipedia, and the thing I love the best, is that no one owns anything. So no, you don't need permission. However, as a courtesy to other editors, you could discuss it on the article's talk page first. The talk pages are a great place to discuss changes before enacting them, so nobody's toes get stepped on.

3. You're perfectly free to update any information, although be prepared to have a source.

4. Generally speaking, it's considered better to reword information instead of quoting it verbatim. A few quotes are acceptable, but if the majority of an article is comprised of quotes from other sources, it needs to be rewritten into article form, as opposed to a series of disjointed quotes.

Because you seem interested in helping with band-related articles, you should go check out the music Wikiproject. They keep up all of those articles (as well as others relating to music), and I'm sure they'd love to have your help! --Alinnisawest,^{Dalek Empress} (extermination requests here) 03:59, 19 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The copyright holder of a photo is listed on the image description page, which you create when you upload the photo. However, photos that you get off Photobucket, or Flickr, or Imageshack, are generally not free content, and so unless you can verify that the photo is under a license that is compatible with the GFDL (such as CC-BY or CC-BY-SA), it is non-free content, and will require a fair use rationale. Note that the first criterion for non-free content on Wikipedia is that it is "used only where no free equivalent is available, or could be created, that would serve the same encyclopedic purpose", and hence you can only use the non-free content if there is no way to procure a similar photo under a free license - in the case of bands, this would generally only occur if members of the band are dead, or if the photo is of particular historical significance that is discussed in the article. Failing that, you would need to see if the copyright holder (and this is not always the uploader, so be careful) is willing to release the photo under a compatible license. Confusing Manifestation(Say hi!) 04:12, 19 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

that seems worth emphasizing: finding a photo on the web doesn't mean it's "up for grabs" copyright-wise, so please be careful about that. thanks for caring about the photographers' names and rights, and happy editing! Sssoul (talk) 11:51, 19 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Fixing article on Socrates

I'm not sure how to proceed with the above and don't want to make matters worse. The following edit substantially changed the opening of the Socrates article: 6 September 2008 Wikipedian132. Besides changing the editorial focus, a somewhat odd quote was added as a third paragraph that had a typo (Sun-Good instead of Sun-God, which I fixed). Then I became suspicious of the quote and its cite, and found that it referred to a 2008 illustrated work on philosophy, hardly a scholarly work. The addition was not vandalism, but it also does not appear to be responsible, nor was it properly vetted. What I would like to see is that the article be returned to its state before the above change. However, I wouldn't want to see productive edits made since then overwritten. Suggestions? Thanks. Allreet (talk) 03:49, 19 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You can add a {{fact}} tag (^{[citation needed]}), noting that that information may not be true. Lego K^ontribs T^alk M 03:58, 19 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the quick reply. My concern is that the entire opening (three paragraphs) is something of a revisionist view based on a recent work. I went back a little further in the history and found that the opening has bounced back and forth between this and the "original," so the change is not as new as I thought. Nonetheless, we do have something of a "Socratic problem" here. I'll bring up the issue on the Talk page. Again, thanks. Allreet (talk) 04:34, 19 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

installation of UNICODE

i want to instal UNICODE in my computer. how do i instal unicode? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.98.128.198 (talk) 07:20, 19 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. Have you tried a Google search? Searching for ["Installing Unicode"] brings up quite a few results. You might get a better response at the Reference Desk. Good luck, Matt (Talk) 10:11, 19 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

reply to received messages

how can I reply to the messages I receive from administrator or other Wikipedia users? --Kdurah (talk) 09:04, 19 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Kdurah and welcome! Some users prefer to keep the discussion in one place (the place that it was started) or reply on the other persons talk page. It's up to you as to which one you do. Matt (Talk) 10:00, 19 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Having made a comment on your page (two) I have your page under watch so if you edit the page and reply I will pick it up. --Snowded TALK 10:37, 19 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

If you're worried that your reply won't be seen by the other party if you put it on your own talk page, you can leave them a quick note alerting them to it. Template:Talkback will do this. Just type {{Talkback|your username}} onto their user talk page. Ka renjc 13:56, 19 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

help renaming a category please!

the category currently called "Category: Ron Wood albums" wants changing to "Category: Ronnie Wood albums", to reflect the current name of the artist's wikipedia article (which is Ronnie Wood, not Ron Wood). the help page about moving articles mentions a different procedure for renaming categories but doesn't provide enough information for me to feel confident about making the change myself - if someone would be willing to either provide step-by-step instructions in non-specialist terminology, or to make the change (whichever is simpler!) that would be great - thanks Sssoul (talk) 11:32, 19 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I have requested the rename for you, at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2008 September 19. DuncanHill (talk) 11:44, 19 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

thank you kindly Sssoul (talk) 11:52, 19 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

term

what does the phrse "red foprt amd red pyjamas means" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.167.135.193 (talk) 11:55, 19 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Have you tried the Language section of Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in answering knowledge questions there; this help desk is only for questions about using Wikipedia. For your convenience, here is the link to post a question there: click here. I hope this helps. Algebraist 12:44, 19 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Industrial and labour law

Roles of collective bargaining in dispute resolution —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.49.81.100 (talk) 12:45, 19 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Have you tried Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. I hope this helps. Algebraist 12:51, 19 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Also, please note that Wikipedia will not do your homework for you. TN‑X-Man 12:57, 19 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Requests for comment: User

If an RFC passed the 48hr deadline for certification then another user (who was not part of the alleged dispute) moves from endorse to certify, should the RFC still stand? What is the process for removing an RFC that was not certified? (Specifically I'm talking about this RFC: Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/Kainaw) Thank you. -Phydaux (talk) 13:27, 19 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It seems fine. The user that certified it did try to discuss the issues and as such is now involved. Although the 48 hours had expired, it seems pointless to delete it just to have them recreate it with a new entry. Gtstricky^{Talk or C} 14:34, 19 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Good point, thank you for your response. - Phydaux (talk) 10:41, 21 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

User Page Deleted - Why?

My user page, contributions and watchlist have all been deleted. I've searched the deletion log but can't find it. How do I get it back? Who deleted it and why? --Robinson Weijman (talk) 13:51, 19 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Are you sure you haven't created a completely new login by mistake, using an upper-case W? Take a look at User:Robinson weijman. Ka renjc 14:00, 19 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Apparently this is what has happened. The account of User:Robinson Weijman has been created today, but User:Robinson weijman has been created on 2007-01-13. Chamal ^Talk ± 14:04, 19 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

(ec)More precisely, you created the account 'Robinson Weijman' on Meta two days ago (not today), with SUL enabled, and as a result you have a new account on en.wiki as well. Algebraist 14:06, 19 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Blimey - you guys are good, thanks. I think Firefox cached it and used the same ID for both. Anyway, thanks for the time you've taken to investigate this. --Robinson Weijman (talk) 14:13, 19 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

chat

is there a spot here where we can converse with one another?--Klingon 1 (talk) 14:31, 19 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Beyond this format, not really, no. Other sites may be better suited for chat. UltraExactZZ ^Claims~ Evidence 14:33, 19 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

See WP:NOT#CHAT Gtstricky^{Talk or C} 14:37, 19 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The OP said nothing about using WP as a chat medium. They're simply asking if there are any places here where wikipedians can have general conversations. Zain Ebrahim (talk) 14:40, 19 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

(3 ecs)You can use user talk pages for conversations. For example, your user talk page is at User talk:Klingon 1. Some wikipedians also use Wikipedia:IRC channels. Zain Ebrahim (talk) 14:38, 19 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Try IRC channels maybe, see WP:IRC Equendil Talk 15:44, 19 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

How do I keep my additions to a site

from going away? I want to have the search term founders of Rapid Cith on the Wikipedia Rapid City South Dakota entry, I put them there and they go away. I don't seem to be able to use Google to find that term when they are visiable on Wikipedia? I have asked Google about it too but maybe you can tell me how to do it. I want anyone who wants to know the names of the founders of Rapid City to be able to Google that term and find the names on Wikipedia, why is that so hard? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ellenb7580 (talk • contribs) 15:52, 19 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

i'm not a "help desk regular", but i looked at the Rapid City, South Dakota edit history. i don't want to guess at why another editor removed your additions, but it looks like you haven't provided any reference for the list of founders you added. other wikipedia editors can always change stuff - that's the nature of wikipedia - but backing up our statements with reliable references means someone really needs a very solid reason to amend or delete them. please check out the page on reliable sources for guidance.

you might also ask on the article's "talk" page why the other editor has deleted that content. courteous communication on the "talk" pages can go a long way to resolving this kind of thing, and is also pretty much of a prerequisite to getting third parties to express an opinion if necessary.

you might also want to consider signing in before making the changes to the article. it looks like you made your additions without being logged in. there's nothing wrong with that, but signing in might make communication with the other editor easier.

hope that helps some, and/or that a "regular" help-desk denizen will clarify what i've left out or misinterpreted. Sssoul (talk) 16:34, 19 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sssoul covered it pretty well. Just one thing to add- remember that Wikipedia is a changing entity. It rarely stays the same for more than a few seconds. You can't expect your edits to stay forever. Also, remember that the consensus may be that the names of the founders are simply not notable enough to be put in the article. --Alinnisawest,^{Dalek Empress} (extermination requests here) 18:07, 19 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Fake Page

Resolved

– Speedied at author request Arakunem^Talk 16:50, 19 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, I put up a fake page for my brother, it's scheduled for deletion and ought to be deleted immediately. He was not amused and the page is not a real Wikipedia page. I edited it with this note on the page. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gregg_Rosenthal - thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kennethrexroth (talk • contribs) 16:00, 19 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

If you put the text {{db-author}} at the top, that will signal the page for speedy deletion at the author's request. Arakunem^Talk 16:38, 19 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Also, please don't create fake pages on Wikipedia- it just makes more work for people who have to go through and delete them. --Alinnisawest,^{Dalek Empress} (extermination requests here) 17:52, 19 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Keep in mind of What Wikipedia is not this "Fake" article, which you have created will fall under that Policy. Dark Mage 18:00, 19 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Using emails as references

I have sent away some emails to get facts on a subject that is not in books or online that I can find to date. I have emailed the provincial archives, the provincial government and the provincial library system - all of these should qualify as a reliable source just not a published source with a book ISBN number or a website URL. I want to also email the school system regarding another question. I want to use the answer on the wikipedia article for the facts I am inquiring about. There is no email citation on Citation templates or mention here Citing sources, but I have used email for class assignments, and received the template from the educators in the school system here, it is just that wikipedia editors wishing to double check would also have to email the same source I suppose to verify, and that would be bothersome to the source to keep getting the same email over and over. The sources I have emailed are the sources for the information. ie where do children in this community receive grade 10 - 12 education? - ask via email the elementary school which is online which goes to grade 9. I also need to verify -again via email- an inscription on a historical marker which is not in the majority of history books or in the majority of webpage sites per say. How do I satisfy my dilemna of getting facts, from the horse's mouth so to speak and be able to quote my reference and having the verifiability thingie looked after. Kind Regards SriMesh | talk 16:38, 19 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Emails are generally not reliable sources, since most are never truly "published." That is to say, there is never a publicly available "official" copy that can be reproduced or reviewed by anyone who wishes. As such, it does not meet any standard for verifiability, since we have to go through a particular editor to do it (we could send our own request, but the respondant might not be the same person, or might not care anymore). The only exceptions to this are publicly viewable email forums, or emails to a librarian or archivist to request a copy or transcript of something that has been published but is very rare or otherwise hard to obtain (like an old book). Someguy1221 (talk) 16:46, 19 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

SriMesh, the other problem you're going to run into is that sending email questions to people who would know, while they may be experts on the subject, also constitutes Original Research on your part, and so will likely get removed from articles that use this information. You would need to reference published third party sources as Someguy1221 said (for example, a magazine or newspaper article discussing these questions). Hope this helps! Arakunem^Talk 16:50, 19 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

There was once a citation template for unpublished emails but using it would violate Wikipedia:Verifiability so it was deleted at Wikipedia:Templates for deletion/Log/2007 April 19#Template:Cite email - on my initiative by the way, and I enjoyed the last comment. PrimeHunter (talk) 18:15, 19 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

One way to transform an unreliable source into a reliable source is to find some journalist who will write about it in a reputable publication. I've never actually tried to do that, so I don't know how it easy it would be. Probably it would depend on the subject, the sources you have, and what journalists you know. You may enjoy editing on Wikipedia more if you put the horse in front of the cart, so to speak, by reading articles in reliable sources such as the New York Times etc. and extracting tidbits from them to put into articles on Wikipedia. On Wikipedia, it's often easier to start with the reliable sources and find articles to put them in, than to start with the articles and try to find reliable sources for specific facts. --Teratornis (talk) 23:48, 19 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Is it legal to cite someone's email as a reference? Wouldn't that be a violation of their privacy? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.55.20.152 (talk) 16:07, 22 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Editing Pictures

I have been asked by the subject of a specific entry to maintain that entry as events occur. I can handle the text easily enough but I cannof find any understandable explanation about how to remove pictures (of the subject) inserted against his/her wishes and how to replace them with a more appropriate picture. Such instructions that I have found use terms that I do not understand and appear to be incomplete. John C Kay (talk) 17:03, 19 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I assume you are referring to the Roz Savage article. You should know that neither you nor the subject owns the article, and the image there is not subject to her approval. See Wikipedia:Ownership of articles If you have another image of her which is subject to a free license, you can upload it at Wikipedia:Upload and then negotiate with the other editors on the article talk page over what images the article should show. —teb728 t c 18:24, 19 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

If an image meets the requirements, Commons would be a better place to upload it. – ukexpat (talk) 18:27, 19 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The current pictures do not illustrate the subject in the context of her activity. I have a more appropriate one but am not at all clear how to replace the current ones. Even when the contributor haas removed the current pictures I do not know how to upload a replacement.

Part of the heading to the entry is factually incorrect: where it says "Rosalind (Roz) Savage is a British amateur rower and runner" it should say "Rosalind (Roz) Savage is a British eco-adventurer, writer and speaker, who uses her trans-oceanic rows to bring awareness to environmental issues." There seems no way to edit this part of the page. How is this done?

I realise that no-one "owns" any entry in Wikipedia and this has nothing to do with any neutral point of view. It has to do with accuracy of text and a picture appropriate to the subject.

Click on "Edit this page" at the top of the page, and you can edit it there...but I would suggest you refrain from editing the article if you have expressly been requested to do so by the article's subject - if nothing else, it constitutes a conflict of interest, which doesn't lend itself to an article which is written from a neutral point of view - the blue words in this sentence are links to policies on the relevant subjects. _Gb^T/c 19:47, 19 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

As for the image, you can pretty much forget about having Image:Roz Savage in Hawaii.jpg deleted from Wikipedia; it isn’t going to happen. But after you have uploaded your picture with a separate name, you may be able to persuade the other editors to let you replace it in the article. —teb728 t c 20:00, 19 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Internet Explorer 6 SP2 Issues ~ Wiki Base Code Change?

I am one of those people that still much use IE6 SP2 at work for corporate reasons. I have noticed that both jumping to a link in Wikipedia from a Google search or directly in Wikipedia on many if not all pages Hange or freezes IE6 such that you either must kill IE as a process or wait for like 5-10 minutes until it loads the page.

I am pretty sure I noticed same at home on IE6 SP1 when testing without the corporate firewall. My guess is that some genious who programs Wiki's base connection or renderer decided that IE6 shouldn't be tested or supported on last update and thus we have the bug that we do.

This is stupid as a number of the Wiki pages are directly supported by corporate users, plus you cut us all out as users while at work. It isn't our idea or fault, but a very large number of corporations still use IE6 (typ. a custom build) for security and stability reasons within the company's applications.

This doesn't require anything more than validation and testing after likely confirmation from other users having issues with IE6 that only started within the last month or two. Prior to that I had no issues with Wiki on IE6 SP1/SP2 for the previous two years. Thanks!

--136.1.1.62 (talk) 17:03, 19 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'm also restricted to IE6 sp2 at work and have never encountered the issue you describe; so my first impulse is to believe it's either your system or specific to your employer's network or firewall. But, to help verify, do you have a link to a Google search example that has caused this issue? If so, I could try the specific link you're trying. --- Barek (talk • contribs) - 17:12, 19 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Math/Practice Problems

I just want to know how to access the problems in the math categories such as the algebra and geometry sections.

stoneywhitaker1974--Stoneywhitaker1974 (talk) 17:57, 19 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'm afraid you might be slightly confused- Wikipedia is an encyclopedia; our purpose is not to teach, but to inform. We do not have any practice problems. You can read the articles on algebra and geometry, but I doubt they will help you learn to do math. However, many good sites exist that would have such practice problems, and I suggest you try searching other sources for them. --Alinnisawest,^{Dalek Empress} (extermination requests here) 18:00, 19 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You might find some math practice problems on Wikibooks or Wikiversity. Let us know if you need help searching those sites. I think searching those sites should be trivially simple - for anyone who is smart enough to work math problems. --Teratornis (talk) 23:51, 19 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, the math stuff does look easy to find: b:Wikibooks:Mathematics bookshelf. --Teratornis (talk) 23:52, 19 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Question

"Articles about any organization, person, web site, or other entity should link to the official site, if any."

Eg.

Mamoru Oshii at IMDb

How do I do that for a site other than IMDB?

EDIT: Actually, that's a horrible example. I want to link to this http://www.sensesofcinema.com/contents/directors/04/oshii.html and also want to link to the main site. What's the correct formatting for that? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Stepusual (talk • contribs) 18:30, 19 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

There are a number of external link templates. Take a look at this category for links: Category:External link templates. If there is no relevant template, format it like this: [http://www.sensesofcinema.com/contents/directors/04/oshii.html Mamoru Oshii, article by Richard Suchenski at senseofcinema.com] and it will display like this: Mamoru Oshii, article by Richard Suchenski at senseofcinema.com. If you want to use the page as a citation, use the {{Web cite}} template. – ukexpat (talk) 18:37, 19 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Many articles on organizations and the like have an infobox with the website. Example: IBM. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk - 18:52, 19 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Harry Lumley

Dear Sirs I am a constant user of Wikipedia indeed it would be the rare day that I would not make reference to it whether for the page each day or as a matter of research. As a Canadian Citizen I have a deep and abising interest in Hockey and as such often secure knowledge related to events or players from Wikipedia. I have recently ascertained that there is a serious error related to one of the Members of the Hockey Hall of Fame which I believe should be corrected.It relates to an article about Harry Lumley and I will not bore you with the nature of the inaccuracy and error at this time.I am more concerned to find out the manner of correcting the error as I find the instruction on correcting inaccuracies difficult to understand and carry out.I am wondering if you would be so kind at to advise me the manner in which the inaccuracy might be corrected.I can be reached at the email address <email redacted> Thank-you for your kind attention and have a good day. Rod MacDougall —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.124.195.122 (talk) 18:39, 19 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Please discuss this at Talk:Harry Lumley (ice hockey) and provide reliable sources. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk - 18:50, 19 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

just in case it's not clear: to discuss your concerns at Talk:Harry Lumley (ice hockey), click on that link, then on the "new section" tab that you'll see at the top of that page. a "window" will open where you can state your specific concerns. please sign your comments by typing four tildes (that's this mark: ~), then click "save page". other editors interested in the article will reply and problems with the content can be smoothed out.

oh and please don't put your email address on wikipedia pages ... hope that helps. Sssoul (talk) 19:19, 19 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Question

"This article needs additional citations for verification. Please help improve this article by adding reliable references. Unsourced material may be challenged and removed. "

About how many citations are needed for the above message to disappear?

Also, can somebody check and see if I did all the citations/references/notes on Oshii's article correctly (formatting is correct, everything required is present, etc.): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oshii

Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Stepusual (talk • contribs) 22:59, 19 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

That message doesn't disappear magically. If you feel the article is now sufficiently references, go ahead and remove it. It's generated by the code {{Refimprove|date=June 2007}} at the top of the page. Algebraist 23:03, 19 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

September 20

Is there an error in the Wikipedia list of soundtracks featuring Nina Simone?

I use Wikipedia constantly, and was suprised, recently, to see a new addition to the list of films featuring Nina Simone's singing. The addition was 1992's "America Me." I went to Amazon.com to find the film, looked at the CD for the film, and nowhere is Nina Simone listed.

I would buy the soundtrack if Nina Simone were featured, and I wondered if the experts at Wikipedia wanted to check out this potential error.

Thanks... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wellmanswellman (talk • contribs) 00:56, 20 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Listing American Me (1992) at the start of Nina Simone#On soundtracks appears to be wrong. I have found conflicting sources but most indicate that the movie has Don't Let Me Be Misunderstood#The Animals version. I guess other sources misunderstood it because the original version is by Nina Simone. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:33, 20 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

uploading images

I'm a member of a forum for an artist and another member told me to upload a picture of the artist to her page, but I don't want to go through the whole email process. Shouldn't I just be able to upload it and stick her name next to it since there isn't a defacto copyright? Grk1011/Stephen (talk) 01:16, 20 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The image needs to confirm to the copyright policies on Wikipedia for it to be uploaded. See Image copyright and copyrights Matt (Talk) 01:41, 20 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I think I'll have her upload it to flickr under an acceptable license. Its easier that way lol. Grk1011/Stephen (talk) 01:45, 20 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Please don't just upload any old image to flickr then try to bring it here. You must be the owner of the image to begin with, or the image has to be under a free license to begin with. Corvus cornix_talk 20:26, 21 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Article Is Spam?

Hello, I tried to add an article about a popular website a while back and it was regarded as spam. What exactly was the determining factor behind this decision? Google and other large sites have articles here on wikipedia. Wikipedia only will allow a site to be featured in an article if it is deemed to be a MASSIVE site? So the popularity of the site is what determines whether its allowed to be featured? I mean, I could understand if it was some person who owns some brand new, cheap little webpage trying to get traffic... but I do not own the site in question and I am not affiliated with the owners of the site. I'm just a member of the site and have seen it being talked about quite a bit all over the net. It is quite popular as chat sites go. Although its not nearly as popular as Google or Facebook.... but that shouldn't be a reason to accept or decline an article about a site. It was not a spam attempt and I simply wanted to add to the large informational database of wikipedia. My article was legitimate and I feel that it was unfairly discarded of. I feel that my article was discriminated against. I would really appreciate it if someone in charge would take another look at the article and reconsider it's status. Here is the link...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:TellYou

Regards, Drew —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.91.17.150 (talk) 01:34, 20 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Looking at the Deletion Log for that page, it was deleted under section G11 of the Criteria For Speedy Deletion. It states, "Pages which exclusively promote some entity and which would need to be fundamentally rewritten to become encyclopedic. Note that simply having a company or product as its subject does not qualify an article for this criterion." You can request the content of a deleted article by contacting one of the admins on this page. Matt (Talk) 01:48, 20 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Please read WP:WEB. If you think the site meets the requirements listed on that link, then you can nominate the article for undeletion at WP:DRV. Corvus cornix_talk 20:27, 21 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Myriapoda has sprouted legs (or at least edit section links)

Someone recently made a very very small edit to article Myriapoda, but which however triggered the inclusion and display of the [edit] links for the preexisting sections.

Which would be fine, except that now the combination of... the pictures (?) and the new edit links are causing the [edit] links to be bunched together, instead of on each section header line as expected! At least this is true in FF3 and Opera 9.52, but not IE7!

Check if you see what I see. Look at each version of the article:

latest version has problem
previous version doesn't have problem (because no edit links at all)

Depending on text/font size, the [edit] link for section "Centipedes" starts moving down the page, eventually aligns alongside the link for the section below "Millipedes" and then they together migrate down the page. At a small enough text size you get four links together, for the four sections from "Centipedes" down to "Pauropoda", pushed down into the references area!

I have to wonder whether the images all bunched together before this set of sections have anything to do with the problem. But in preview mode I can't cause the problem, even with unmodified source, so that limits experimentation.

Any clue as to "bunched together [edit] links"? Shenme (talk) 02:04, 20 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

See WP:BUNCH. --Teratornis (talk) 04:18, 20 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Why is information I've added being automaticly deleted?

I've recently been editing minor spelling errors as well as false information present in the Final Fantasy VII wiki page. The information I've added was completely legitimate and derived from personal experience playing the game. Every time I edit a mistake, my content is not present when I return to the page minutes later. What I have added is in no way inappropriate and considerbly more truthful than some information present in the ariticle now. I was under the impression anyone could edit and save information on your articles, and this is confirmed in your FAQ. So why is my information being rejected after spending all that time typing it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.158.108.234 (talk) 04:19, 20 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Looks to me like your changes to the article took just fine, though someone subsequently edited some of it. Can you be more specific about what you think was "rejected"? I wonder if it be a problem with the cache on your web browser? Crypticfirefly (talk) 04:54, 20 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Actually someone reverted all of your edits here, with the edit summary, “Reverted good faith edits by 67.158.108.234; Info in parentheses unnecessary;” —teb728 t c 07:17, 20 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

"personal experience playing the game" is considered original research, and that's not acceptable, due to its being unsourced. Please provide reliable sources for your edits, and then they can be kept. Corvus cornix_talk 20:30, 21 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

enlarging the font of gileki wikipedia

hi, i am Amin Sanaei, gileki wikipedia adminstorator. in gileki wikipedia, font of pages is very small and people can not read it!. if anbody can change it, please do that. the largest of font of farsi wikipedia is good for our gileki wikipedia. i try to do that but can not do that!.--AminSanaei (talk) 06:30, 20 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

This could be a difficult question for users of the English Wikipedia to answer. Usually when someone reports a font size problem with the English Wikipedia, the problem is actually in their Web browser. See Wikipedia:Browser notes for information about that. When I browse to Gileki Wikipedia, amazingly I can see a font (instead of square boxes I often get for foreign scripts). I cannot read the characters, since I don't know this language, but they look just large enough to be legible if I could read them. When I press Ctrl + in Firefox 3.0.1, the font enlarges. I can step it up several more increments to a reasonably large size. Thus the only problem I see is that I would probably want to enlarge the font in my browser. I don't see a problem on the site itself. You might put an instruction on the main page telling users how to enlarge the font in their browsers, if you can't figure out how to change the default font size in your default skin. --Teratornis (talk) 19:53, 20 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I see that you also posted your question at the Media Wiki Help discussion page - that's probably the best place to ask, as they are the guys most closely connected with the creation of the MediaWiki software. – ukexpat (talk) 01:19, 21 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Copy-pasting tables from Excel

I want to create a table of all the plant species in a certain country. The number is over 2000 species. Is there any quick algorithm for copy-pasting the table from Excel, without working separately on each and every row? Thanks, Gidip (talk) 07:11, 20 September 2008 (UTC).[reply]

Try the Excel-to-Wiki Converter. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk - 10:55, 20 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

strange duplication

An hour ago or so i crated this account on de.wikipia.org. I read a German artikel bout Pleomorphismus and switchted to the correspondiente English lemma. Suddenly a window popped up and informed me about a database error. Immediatle afterwards this new Account was created on en.wikipedia.org. What the heck happened exactly? -- Shareyourknowledge (talk) 07:20, 20 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Your account here was created here automatically by the Unified login process. You also got a database error, which happens every so often. There was no connection between these events. Algebraist 09:20, 20 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Understood. Thank you. Shareyourknowledge (talk) 06:11, 21 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Image:WW2 Iwo Jima flag raising.jpg

The famous photo returns a 404 error. The two old versions of the image are also inaccessible. —teb728 t c 07:26, 20 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

For your info, I have asked here about this because it's such a significant image.--82.148.54.182 (talk) 13:46, 20 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

{{helpme}} needs a fix

Could someone technically minded please make {{helpme}} still work ok in all namespaces per Template_talk:Helpme#Namespace_restriction. Cheers, --Commander Keane (talk) 08:11, 20 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

James Taylor discography

Resolved

Could someone attend to the anon's request at Talk:James Taylor discography, preferably after checking a source. Cheers, --Commander Keane (talk) 08:14, 20 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Looks like User:Mah00s already sorted it on the 19th. Sources[2][3] confirm. Ka renjc 10:50, 20 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Special pages histories

Generally, is there any way I can view the histories (and possibly source code) of special pages? Are those changed from the MediaWiki: namespace or is it integrated in the software? -- Menti sock 12:16, 20 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It depends on the special page. Some have text in the Mediawiki namespace (to find out where, go to Special:AllMessages and use your browser search). Others are defined in the software. Which are you interested in? Algebraist 12:26, 20 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Special:Statistics - can the two not be distinguished? -- Menti sock 12:31, 20 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The footer is at MediaWiki:Statistics-footer, and has a history like any other page. The rest of the page is, I believe, generated by the software, and has no page history as such. Algebraist 12:41, 20 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. I was wondering whether they can correct statistics there like the amount of stewards (since the steward list isn't on enwiki it's zero, but that's incorrect). -- Menti sock 13:42, 20 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I wondered why {{NUMBERINGROUP:steward}} always returned a zero. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk - 15:53, 20 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

That's because the steward bit is given to users on Meta, not on en.wiki. The list of stewards is here. Algebraist 16:21, 20 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

wrong info

someone keeps adding not nice things to topics about our local town and businesses, and i am wondering if there is anyway of stopping it. I have changed it a few times as some things about Shildon in County Durham were stupid and wrong. Is there anything that can be done?

91.106.112.105 (talk) 13:05, 20 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Leave a note on their talk page asking them to stop (see WP:WARN for some templates). If they don't stop after several warnings then you can report them to WP:AIV. Zain Ebrahim (talk) 13:21, 20 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I recommend you create an account. Wikipedia:Why create an account? --—— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk - 15:56, 20 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

If you refer to the text you edited here, then please note that Wikipedia is not an advertising medium; see WP:ADVERT and WP:COI. Thank you.Andy Mabbett (User:Pigsonthewing); Andy's talk; Andy's edits 18:11, 20 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Internal error

I keep getting a lot of these when I try to edit at the moment. Example:

Unable to store text to external storage

Backtrace:

0 /usr/local/apache/common-local/php-1.5/includes/Revision.php(724): ExternalStore::randomInsert('?Xmr?8???S??5?L...')
1 /usr/local/apache/common-local/php-1.5/includes/Article.php(1501): Revision->insertOn(Object(DatabaseMysql))
2 /usr/local/apache/common-local/php-1.5/includes/Article.php(1355): Article->doEdit('[[Image:Lenton ...', '/* Biography */...', 98)
3 /usr/local/apache/common-local/php-1.5/includes/EditPage.php(1013): Article->updateArticle('[[Image:Lenton ...', '/* Biography */...', false, true, false, '#Biography')
4 /usr/local/apache/common-local/php-1.5/includes/EditPage.php(2366): EditPage->internalAttemptSave(false, false)
5 /usr/local/apache/common-local/php-1.5/includes/EditPage.php(454): EditPage->attemptSave()
6 /usr/local/apache/common-local/php-1.5/includes/EditPage.php(339): EditPage->edit()
7 /usr/local/apache/common-local/php-1.5/includes/Wiki.php(494): EditPage->submit()
8 /usr/local/apache/common-local/php-1.5/includes/Wiki.php(59): MediaWiki->performAction(Object(OutputPage), Object(Article), Object(Title), Object(User), Object(WebRequest))
9 /usr/local/apache/common-local/php-1.5/index.php(93): MediaWiki->initialize(Object(Title), Object(Article), Object(OutputPage), Object(User), Object(WebRequest))
10 /usr/local/apache/common-local/live-1.5/index.php(3): require('/usr/local/apac...')
11 {main}

Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_Marc"

Is there a problem with the servers? SpinningSpark 13:59, 20 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I just now left the same problem at the village pump: apparently I'm not the only one experiencing this problem. Nyttend (talk) 14:04, 20 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Same problem here when trying to edit A456 Jenuk1985 (talk) 14:07, 20 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

same intermittent (seems to work for very small edits)--mrg3105 (comms) ♠♥♦♣ 14:24, 20 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

See http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Wikiversity:Colloquium#Wikimedia_Server - I've had the same problem as well as another user who had similar message including yours. Dark Mage 20:29, 20 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Seems to be okay now. Gary King (talk) 20:38, 20 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Has to be notable for more than one thing?

So far, I heard two users that said that an article's subject has to be notable for than one thing. Where the heck does it say that? Schuym1 (talk) 15:24, 20 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Notability will tell you what you need to know. Sunderland06 (talk) 15:26, 20 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Specifically, you probably want WP:1E Algebraist 16:17, 20 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Question on Internet

how does the internet work? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 118.95.74.74 (talk) 15:50, 20 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You might find what you are looking for in the article about Internet. If you cannot find the answer there, you can try asking your question at Wikipedia's Reference Desk. They will be glad to try to answer questions about anything in the universe (except about how to use Wikipedia, which is what this help desk is for). I hope this helps. Algebraist 16:16, 20 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Also look for this illustrated book:

Gralla, P. (1998), How the Internet Works, Que, ISBN 9780789717269

which I looked up with this search: Template:Google scholar cite. --Teratornis (talk) 17:28, 20 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Fountain of the Mermaid of Lleida

Hi!

I want that in the Wikipedia in english the article Fountain of the Mermaid of Lleida.

Here in spanish: http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuente_de_la_Sirena_de_Lleida

Also in french, catalan and italien.

Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.52.72.83 (talk) 16:53, 20 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

See Wikipedia:Translation for how to request translations. All Wikipedia versions are made by volunteers who can choose what to work on. PrimeHunter (talk) 17:04, 20 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

If you are happy with a machine translation, you can use the {{Google translation}} template. For example:

Type this	To get this	What it produces
`{{Google translation\|en\|es\|http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuente_de_la_Sirena_de_Lleida\|Translate Fuente de la Sirena de Lleida to English}}`	Translate Fuente de la Sirena de Lleida to English	Translate es:Fuente de la Sirena de Lleida to English

The result is somewhat readable in English. The instructions at the top of this Help desk page tell you to search the Help desk archives before asking a question; for example: search the Help desk archives for: translation, which finds similar answers to several previous questions about translating Wikipedia articles. --Teratornis (talk) 17:42, 20 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Create the article, please. I am not registred. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.14.242.98 (talk) 17:27, 21 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I see you have created Talk:Fountain of the Mermaid of Lleida with a machine translation (maybe slightly edited). Unfortunately machine translations often produce low quality results so Wikipedia requires manual work on a translation before creating an article. See Wikipedia:Translation#What to remember when translating. PrimeHunter (talk) 17:44, 21 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Already this changed. Now create the article, please. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.14.242.98 (talk) 18:11, 21 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'm afraid I cannot in good conscience create a translated article with English at this level. You can request translation from editors more familiar with English. See Wikipedia:Translation for the procedure. But another serious problem is lack of sources to satisfy Wikipedia:Verifiability and Wikipedia:Notability. Talk:Fountain of the Mermaid of Lleida has no sources and I just saw that neither do any of the 4 linked versions in other Wikipedia languages. I cannot find any English sources and I don't know Spanish or other languages there might be sources in. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:10, 21 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Talk:Fountain of the Mermaid of Lleida has now been deleted because Wikipedia does not make talk pages for non-existing articles. I can give you a copy of the latest version if you want. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:17, 22 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Here in spanish http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuente_de_la_Sirena_de_Lleida here in catalan http://ca.wikipedia.org/wiki/Font_de_la_Sirena_de_Lleida here in french http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fontaine_de_la_Sir%C3%A8ne_de_Lleida here in italien http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fontana_della_Sirena_(Lleida) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.23.224.26 (talk) 13:21, 22 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I know those links. I meant that as an administrator I have access to the contents of deleted pages in the English Wikipedia. You made edits to the deleted Talk:Fountain of the Mermaid of Lleida. If you haven't saved it elsewhere and would like a copy then I can provide it. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:32, 22 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Here

This fountain can be found in the Park The Champs Elysees of Lleida.

Before she had a nymph, the nymph removed because was deteriorated a bit and put the mermaid in their place.

It's the year 1946.

It is the most famous figure is on the Champs Elysees.

After La Seu Vella, the fountain of the mermaid is the most visited in Lleida.

Perhaps, soon, it may buy as a souvenir of the Champs Elysees, a small statue of the mermaid. As already are La Seu Vella and Lo Marraco.

The mermaid is on top of a rock and the water gets on a conch. Around the mermaid there is a garden full of flowers. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.23.224.26 (talk) 13:44, 22 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Commons

Hello, would someone like to respond to my thirty-eight hour-old query at the Commons help desk? –thedemonhog talk • edits 17:36, 20 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe nobody who is reading that Help desk has the specific knowledge to answer the question. Since you are asking about a particular template (commons:Template:Attribution-Ubisoft), I suggest looking at the template's history, and then you could go down (or up) the list of contributors, leaving requests on their user talk pages to look at your question. Ask them to take a look, one by one, until you get an answer. On the various Wikimedia Foundation projects, you can almost always get an answer, but you need to find the right people to ask, or in some cases find the documentation pages where they already wrote the answer. --Teratornis (talk) 17:47, 20 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

To elaborate slightly: people who answer questions on the Help desks are generalists. We/they are pretty good at looking up things, but we/they don't know everything about everything. If generalists do not have personal experience with a particular subject, they will only know what they can look up about it. If you are pretty good at looking things up, and you already searched, then you may have already exhausted the resources available to the generalist. You may have to seek out some specialists. When you have a question that is so specific that it points directly to some specific people, then you might want to go ask those people, or read what they may have written on the subject. --Teratornis (talk) 17:58, 20 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Another place to try might be Wikipedia:Media copyright questions. --Teratornis (talk) 18:01, 20 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

american radio personalities section inclusion

i have spent 30 years in the broadcasting business, and noticed you have hundreds of my peers in a section called american radio personalities, but i have spent hours trying to figure how i enter that section with my history? there is no clear answer , anywhere? here is what i did i sand box, but there are no directions on how all of my cohorts have been entered into the america radio personalities section? john driscoll21:33, 20 September 2008 (UTC)~~

John Driscoll (born April 6,1949)a Top 40 and Adult Contemporary Music radio disc jockey who also programmed radio stations in several of the nations largest markets.And went on to become the image voice of several radio & tv stations as well as network affiliates .

Biography Born in San Francisco ,California as John D Moore, he attended Santa Monica High School and entered the communications class at Santa Monica City College in 1969 and he was selected as the host of a weekly friday show on KCRW FM .He subsequently worked at several radio stations, including KRUX and KRIZ in Phoenix,WMYQ Miami,WCFL Chicago,KIMN KYGO Denver,KSAN San Francisco KTNQ ,KFI and KZLA in Los Angeles

in 1989 he was the Voice Over talent who was used on VH-1 the promote the Corvette Collection that gave away every model ever made to one VH-1 viewer, he also was the voice of TNT's NBA Power Pass, and went on to be heard on the newly created marketing unit of NBC known as NBC-2000 this was followed by stints at FOX Area 21 and Spike TV

In 1993 he was one of the first home studio equipped talents to have a prototype ISDN codec in beta test from IDB the unit was called 3D2, he also had the first website voiceover america that featured audio and video samples as well as a means of distributing client audio files online

John Driscoll is heard in Walmart stores worldwide at the checkout tv display, he also is the Jumbo-Tron voice of Tim McGraws 2008 Live your voice tour. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Johnd49r (talk • contribs)

Category:American radio personalities is a category. It displays existing Wikipedia articles which contain [[Category:American radio personalities]] in the article source. There is an article about another John Driscoll but apparently not about you so you can currently not be added to the category. And see Wikipedia:Autobiography which says "Writing an autobiography on Wikipedia is strongly discouraged". PrimeHunter (talk) 00:15, 21 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

September 21

IE editing font, Firefox slow on images

I generally like Firefox, but for some reason it is extremely slow loading WP articles, especially if they have a lot of images. The problem with IE is that the editing window uses a very tiny font that my slightly impared eyes can't see well enough. In Firefox I can set the minumum font size to something that I can read in the editor.

1. Is there a way to set the font size of the font in the editor when using IE?

2. Is there some setting that would make Forefox load faster, especially images? Bubba73 (talk), 00:30, 21 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

In Firefox, I changed it from "no proxy" to "automatic proxy", and that seems to have helped a lot. Bubba73 (talk), 00:53, 21 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

In Internet Explorer, try View > Text Size and increase the size. To make Firefox load pages faster, try following the instructions here. Good luck, Matt (Talk) 01:21, 21 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The view/textsize has no effect on the editor in WP. I made the changes to Firefox, but I can't tell that it made much difference. I have run a utility that is supposed to speed up internet speeds, but off of the things in the directions were at their default. Bubba73 (talk), 01:33, 21 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Browser notes#Internet Explorer says:

Setting a font size does not work for the wikitext area or the edit summary and go/search boxes, unless one uses a local Cascading Style Sheet containing textarea, input {font-size: 100%} (or other percentages of choice).

--Teratornis (talk) 05:47, 21 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Correctly using the <ref name> citation format

Hello, I am trying to add some information to the Delta Sigma Theta page, in addition to provide correct citations. When I was working on the "Delta Towers" section, I developed an initial citation that I assigned the reference name "DCAlumnae" to, but when I try to utilize the short citation later, it tells me "Cite error: Invalid <ref> tag; refs with no content must have a name" Could you please explain what I am doing wrong? Thanks Divainred, 22:35, 21 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You used the wrong kind of quotes on the name: You entered ”DCAlumnae” It should have been ASCII "DCAlumnae" (Look closely if you don't see the difference at first. They don't look at all similar to a computer.) —teb728 t c 03:16, 21 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I have fixed this, btw. :-) miranda 04:09, 21 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Changing TItle/Name of an Article?

How does one do it? Or is it even possible? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Stepusual (talk • contribs) 02:43, 21 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Use the "move" tab at the top of the page. See WP:MOVE for details. —teb728 t c 03:00, 21 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

link to WWII Military Grop

Please do not vandalise. Welcome to the Wikipedia Help desk. Your question appears to be pure vandalism. I apologize if this is a misevaluation, but it is our policy here to warn, and eventually block, users who disrupt the encyclopedia building project.
If you have a question about how to use Wikipedia, feel free to ask it. If you see a problem: fix it yourself! Chamal ^Talk ± 05:31, 21 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The poster 24.176.162.67 created the same one-line section 6 times:

You have an entry "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Contact_us"

Creating the same section multiple times is a common error for new users (although 6 times is rare). I guess it's often posters who have cached the page without realizing it and don't see their post is already there. Is there something you want to contact us about? PrimeHunter (talk) 12:47, 21 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

just need help

I amtrying to find a encyclopedia that has a medical dictionary and encyclopedia, do not want medical advice, but i am doing research on a family members illness, and I myself am quite limited with severe neck issues, so , a computer is not my best friend, but it's for my Dad. I already lost my Mom to this disease... I need info and I need it soon. thankyou. Where do I start ? Where do I go? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.180.238.20 (talk) 09:12, 21 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I am sorry to hear of your troubles, To find articles on Wikipedia (this page is really just for asking for help using Wikipedia, not more general stuff), type the name of the illness in the search box (usually on the left hand side). To find articles on the wider web, use Google search (http://google.com)' or you could try the (UK-specific) NHS direct: http://www.nhsdirect.nhs.uk/ which is non-commercial. Good luck Andy Mabbett (User:Pigsonthewing); Andy's talk; Andy's edits 20:47, 21 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Help on an image

I recently edited an image to correct it:Image:USCG MCPOCG Collar.png. I uploaded many test intermediate images before settling on my final one. How can I get rid of the intermediate revisions (those other than the current/first revisions) Officer781 (talk) 09:38, 21 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You can't and don't need to. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk - 11:57, 21 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I agree there is no need to and there is apparently no template to request deletion of some but not all image versions. But if the uploader wants certain old versions deleted then is there something wrong with a willing administrator deleting them one at a time per Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion#G7 (which says "page" in the formulation)? PrimeHunter (talk) 12:32, 21 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

copying article onto adobe PDF format

Can an article be saved in Adobe PDF format? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Chitownwop (talk • contribs) 10:23, 21 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You need an application such as Adobe Acrobat or other PDF software. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk - 11:57, 21 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Depending on what system you use, and your level of technical confidence, you could look at installing a printer driver which prints to PDF. Andy Mabbett (User:Pigsonthewing); Andy's talk; Andy's edits 20:50, 21 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Further to Andy's advice, there are various such programs available commercially or free online, of varying quality and complexity. I myself have experience of Primopdf, which installs as a virtual printer and works well for me on PCs running XP, but that's just my choice - other programs are available: try googling "create pdf" or similar. Obviously research any program's reputability and safety before you download it. There are plenty of sites and forums listing dangerous downloads to avoid. Ka renjc 14:10, 22 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Why do wp:wiki and WP:WIKI redirect differently?

wp:wiki redirects to Questions while wp:WIKI redirects to WikiProject_Wikify ? I realize the case is different but I don't see why one redirects to Questions. --Sultec (talk) 13:02, 21 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Page names are case sensitive in Wikipedia and there are sometimes reasons to have different content. wp:wiki and WP:WIKI were created at different times by different users, and I guess the latter creator didn't notice the former redirect. I agree there is no reason to have different targets here and I changed wp:wiki to also redirect to Wikipedia:WikiProject Wikify. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:33, 21 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I edited the redirect by clicking "Redirected from Wikipedia:Wiki" at the top of the page wp:wiki leads to, and then "edit this page" from there. PrimeHunter (talk) 16:13, 21 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Help with image

I tried to add an image to Werewolf Skin, but it won't work. Schuym1 (talk) 14:24, 21 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You have to include it as [[Image:Werewolf Skin VHS cover.jpg|200px]] in this infobox. See Template:Infobox Book for details. I've tried this and previewed on the article, and it works. You can go ahead and add it. Cheers. Chamal ^Talk ± 14:35, 21 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. I assumed that it was the same way for every infobox. Schuym1 (talk) 14:39, 21 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

NEW ARTICLE

i would like to send a new and original article to your sport editor. please provide an email address to do so.

thanx

anton bester —Preceding unsigned comment added by 196.38.64.208 (talk) 14:57, 21 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Please do not include contact details in your questions. We are unable to provide answers by any off-wiki medium and this page is highly visible across the internet. The details have been removed, but if you wish for them to be permanently removed from the page history, email this address.Chamal ^Talk ± 15:01, 21 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You can create the article yourself.

Please see Your first article.

Ensure that you have an account and you are logged in. If you don't have an account, create one
Make sure the subject is notable enough to have their own article
Find references
Make sure no article on the subject exists under a different title by typing the subject into the search box to the left (←) and clicking 'Search'
Type the page name in the search box to the left (←) and click 'Go'
Click 'Create this page'
Create the article, including all your references, making sure you adhere to the Manual of Style and our article layout guidelines
Be aware that Wikipedia deletes thousands of new articles for failing to adhere to our policies and guidelines. New articles by new users are at extra risk of deletion, due to new users' unfamiliarity with our rules. Consider gaining experience by editing existing articles before attempting to create new ones

Chamal ^Talk ± 15:04, 21 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

WP:RTV

If I disband using this account, and decide to start again with a new one, is this possible, whilst keeping my relationship new account unknown? Mⁱc_rochip ⁰⁸ 16:34, 21 September 2008 (UTC) [reply]

per WP:RTV#What vanishing is not, "The 'right to vanish' is not a 'right to a fresh start' under a new identity." So no, you cannot use the right to vanish to do that, as using the right to vanish implies that you as a person are leaving Wikipedia forever, not just abandoning that specific account. However, you can always start a new account without "vanishing", and provided you do not make it obvious you are the same individual by your editing habits, it is unlikely to be identified with your previous account. (Note that any possession of multiple accounts must comply with the rules at Wikipedia:Sockpuppetry.) --erachima talk 16:44, 21 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
See Wikipedia:Sockpuppetry#Alternative accounts#Legitimate uses of alternative accounts#Clean start under a new name for more info. Scotty dude _review 17:26, 21 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Sniffer Rats
Hi! I am not new to Wikipedia (this account is a "new-beginning" of another account) despite my account's young age. I am about to start an article on sniffer rats, the rats that are trained to sniff out mines, bombs and even tuberculosis in human saliva! Would the title "Snffer Rat(s)" be appropiate? Also, I haven't recieved a welcome letter yet. On my other account, I recieved one on the spot. Is there any explanation for this?--Archeopteryx (talk) 17:37, 21 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
~~See Wikipedia:Manual of Style (titles)~~ for the answer to the first question. Second, the welcomes are placed by editors, not bots like on other projects. So the giving out of welcomes tends to not follow any particular pattern. Calvin 1998 ^(t·c) 17:44, 21 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Actually, Wikipedia:Naming conventions would likely answer the first question better. Calvin 1998 ^(t·c) 17:47, 21 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I would probably be best to add this to explosive detection. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk - 00:01, 22 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Odd edit
Hi, just came here to ask something - a user apparently posted a blob of something which reads like a promotion of another wiki, should I undo it? diff Tohd8BohaithuGh1 (talk) 17:49, 21 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Well, it's on your talk page which in a loose sort of way is your property so you can do what you want to it. However, I notice that the same IP user has been putting the same content onto other people's talk pages. I'll raise this on WP:ANI to see whether admins feel they should do anything. (The fact that it's a wiki is to my mind not really relevant. However, I think it could well be considered spam)--212.248.232.249 (talk) 18:14, 21 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
This sounds somewhat analogous to Wikipedia:canvassing (but isn't exactly). The problem with spamming a bunch of user talk pages is that only a few of those users might have an interest in the other wiki at that time. Thus the advertising is not targeted efficiently, and poorly-targeted advertisements are annoying to the recipients. A more constructive way to promote another wiki would be for the user to monitor WP:AFD discussions, and suggest the wiki as an alternative outlet when the consensus is to delete an article from Wikipedia that would be suitable for the other wiki. In that case, mentioning the alternative outlet can be very helpful to defuse tension, because it allows proponents of the article to feel that their work is not being destroyed altogether. This is just my opinion, but I think Wikipedia kind of owes it to people to inform them of alternative outlets, because Wikipedia suckers in so many people by being so easy to edit. The ease of editing makes Wikipedia appear far more welcoming than it really is. To comply with the spirit of WP:DICK, we should make some attempt to insure new users understand the probability that hours of their work could get deleted, before they sink in those hours. At the moment, we pretty much don't. The burden is on new users to learn this the hard way. --Teratornis (talk) 20:47, 21 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
the user page
Hello,
I want to write a new article, and I'll need some time to gather the info needed and get conversant with the wiki mark-up. I have read the help related to posting a new article however, its a bit confusing since there is too much to read. Can the user page be used to publish the article in draft, work in progress form and then copied to the new real with the good heading (article name). I am asking this question since the user page help states that to test the sandbox should be used. I used the sand box to try formating switches.
Zales (talk) 18:01, 21 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I think so, see WP:User pages. Though if you want to work with more than one article, you may want to do something like put article#1 in User:Zales/Article 1 and article#2 in User:Zales/Article 2. Tohd8BohaithuGh1 (talk) 18:12, 21 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
(edit conflict) A user subpage is better, for example a private sandbox like User Zales/Sandbox. PrimeHunter (talk) 18:14, 21 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Indeed, though I wouldn't class it as a private Sandbox since everyone can view it - though the term which is occasionally used would be personal sandbox. Dark Mage 18:56, 21 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Changing Name/Title of an Article
How does one do it? Or is it even possible? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Stepusual (talk • contribs) 18:44, 21 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
You asked this question above, and it was answered. Algebraist 18:46, 21 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Ip block?
Is it possible to block a ip? this ip 92.0.118.177 has been just changing information on 4 articles and then changes it something different and provides no source, even though the sources on the page says there wrong, but there doing like 20 edits are time all jsut minor ones--Andrewcrawford (talk) 19:13, 21 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Make sure it actually is vandalism as defined by Wikipedia:Vandalism and then go to Wikipedia:Administrator intervention against vandalism (in that order!) Calvin 1998 ^(t·c) 19:26, 21 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
It is not unfortnally even though at least 3-5 editors on the aritcles would argue it is but wikipedia guidelines it is not that why i was wondering what can be done.--Andrewcrawford (talk) 19:43, 21 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
See Wikipedia:Disruptive editing then, in that case. Calvin 1998 ^(t·c) 19:46, 21 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Updates aren't showing
Check the candidates page for the 2008 canadian elections. I'm trying to update Green candidates in Nunavut and Newfoundland for example and it will not display my updates. Why? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.14.131.8 (talk) 23:20, 21 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Nothing looking odd to me, what specific update for instance can't you see ? Equendil Talk 23:32, 21 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Special:Contributions/74.14.131.8 shows you are editing templates. If you view a page where the template is transcluded like Canadian federal election, 2008 (candidates) then the page may not be updated yet with the new contents of the template. You can purge a page to force an update. In other situations you may have to bypass your cache to see the current version of a page. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:37, 22 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
September 22
Image Size Question
Please, what is the appropriate image size for the photo of Catherine Deneuve in Catherine Deneuve? I reduced the size because I think the image is not especially "high res". Other editors have increased it.
Thanks, Wanderer57 (talk) 02:00, 22 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
It doesn't really matter. It is scaled on the server side, so the users only download a properly sized image. -- kainaw ™ 02:03, 22 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. Just to be clear -- you seem to be saying that whether the code reads:

image_size = 250px OR
image_size = 150px OR
image_size = 200px does not affect what the reader sees?
Wanderer57 (talk) 02:26, 22 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Side lobes
A user (Mr. PIM) has eliminated link from the Side lobes article to the related section in the German article on antenna radiation pattern (de:Antennendiagramm#Nebenkeulen). He think that there has to be a direct relation between articles between languages and that one should not link an article to a section of one in another language if there is not a directly corresponding article in this language. I personally think that if a link is possible it should be done and if an article in that language is done later, the link should be changed. Could anyone let Mr. PIM and me what is the rules concerning this matter.
Pierre cb (talk) 02:15, 22 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Do not make interlanguage links to sections. See Help:Interlanguage links#Bots and links to and from a section. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:08, 22 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This reply refers to the type of links that end up in the languages box. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:13, 22 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Linking to the Latin Wikisource?
I know that {{wikisource}} exists for linking to s:, but what if we want to link to it in another language (e.g. s:la:)? I think that would be useful for some articles where the material they are discussing (e.g. Magna Carta) is originally in Latin. The aforementioned article already has a link to the English Wikisource and hence an English translation, but maybe a link to s:la:Magna Carta would also be useful? It Is Me Here (talk) 06:25, 22 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
You can use {{Wikisourcelang}} for that. Such as, {{Wikisourcelang|la|Magna Carta}}. Someguy1221 (talk) 07:04, 22 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
s:la:Magna Carta already is a link to the Latin wikisource. The only problem is that on mouseover it appears not to be. Algebraist 11:01, 22 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
OK, thanks guys - Someguy1221's answer was what I was looking for. Algebraist, it appears that two shortcuts in conjuction don't work for some reason - wikisource:la:Magna Carta seems to be OK. It Is Me Here (talk) 16:56, 22 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
How to "join" a wikiproject
i would like to join Wikipedia:WikiProject Drum Corps but i'm not sure how to, do i just edit my name into participants? NickIsOrange (talk) 07:00, 22 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Yup. WikiProjects are unofficial - just a group of editors with similar interests working together. Someguy1221 (talk) 07:05, 22 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Hidden discussions

Resolved
At Wikipedia:CHICAGO#XfD_.28AFD.2C_CFD.2C_TFD.2C_IFD.29 in the only two of the five discussions seem to be showing even though the source should show five.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 07:20, 22 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Fine for me. Are you still having the problem (after clearing your browser cache)? Algebraist 10:58, 22 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Your link Wikipedia:CHICAGO#XfD_.28AFD.2C_CFD.2C_TFD.2C_IFD.29 is transcluded onto Wikipedia:WikiProject Chicago#Reviews and Discussions with the code {{Wikipedia:WikiProject Chicago/Discussions}}. You were actually editing Wikipedia:WikiProject Chicago/Discussions (I guess by clicking transcluded section edit links at Wikipedia:WikiProject Chicago). When a transcluded page has been edited it can take a long time before the places where it's being transcluded are updated automatically. You can force an immediate update by purging a page like Wikipedia:WikiProject Chicago. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:59, 22 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Clearing your browser cache would have no effect if Wikipedia had not updated Wikipedia:WikiProject Chicago so this must have happened before the post by Algebraist. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:01, 22 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Sometimes the cache gets stuck, also, and purge function doesn;t fix it. It's rare, but another edit (like a null edit; add or remove an optional space) will fix the problem. Then purge the cache and all is well. It has happened to me about 5 times in 2 years. Jerry delusional ¤ kangaroo 17:04, 22 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
All is well.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 22:45, 22 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Adding an article to WikiProjects
I would like to add the Leesport Lock House to the wikiprojects Wikipedia:WikiProject Pennsylvania and Wikipedia:WikiProject National Register of Historic Places, but I'm not sure how to go about doing this. Should I just add {{WikiProject Pennsylvania}} and {{WikiProject National Register of Historic Places}} to the talk page of these articles, or is there something else I need to do? Do I, a non-member of these wikiprojects, give the article an importance or a class? Is there anything else that should be happening? Mjf3719 (talk) 13:36, 22 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Adding the proper templates to the article's talk page would work. If there are already several such templates, you might consider using {{WikiProjectBanners}} to list multiple wikiproject banners in a collapsable box. As for assessments of importance and class, each project is different - you'll want to see if your project has particular criteria for each. In general, though, you can assign importance and class, but these are subject to consensus. Hope this helps, UltraExactZZ ^Claims~ Evidence 13:44, 22 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
See my reply on your talk page. – ukexpat (talk) 18:45, 22 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
edit bots
following my question asked beforehand, can i be told about how can i create a framework for the bot, and how can i actually make a bot, sadly, i am totally ignorant of programming languages. Btzkillerv (talk) 14:28, 22 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
You'll have to either learn some programming or request here that someone else write a bot for you. Algebraist 14:34, 22 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Anybody who is smart enough to master skills such as cooking or mathematics can learn to program, but as with any complex skill, programming can require some work to learn. See WP:EIW#Bot for information about bots. Bot frameworks are available in several programming languages; see Wikipedia:Creating a bot. Before attempting to use a bot framework, however, you should pick one of the languages, and work through an introductory course in that language. For example, Wikipedia:Creating a bot#Perl lists several introductions to the Perl programming language. Please take notes about your learning adventure, for example on a user subpage, so other users can learn from your experience. Wikipedia does not have enough tutorials for beginners. --Teratornis (talk) 18:45, 22 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
playing audio files
I followed your instructions for listening to audio files - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Media_help_(Ogg). I downloaded and installed the software. Now my Windows Media Player does not work at all. Prior to installing your software, it worked just fine. What do I do now? I can't listen to any audio files. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.88.91.41 (talk) 14:40, 22 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
There are several distinct procedures in Wikipedia:Media help (Ogg). Which did you follow? Did those instructions work? (I.e., can you listen to Vorbis files?) When you say "Windows Media Player does not work at all," what exactly do you mean? There are several different ways to run a Windows program, and different ways for a program to "not work at all." (Do you get nothing? Or do you get an error message? Or does the program open, but then misbehave?) Can you open WMP from the Programs menu, and open an audio file from WMP's File menu? If not, do you get an error message, and what does it say? Often you can {{Google}} for the text of an error message, and find Web pages where other computer users have documented solutions for it. When you ask for help with a computer problem, you have to explain the symptoms in enough detail to allow other people to guess which of the astronomically many possible failure modes you are experiencing. See How To Ask Questions The Smart Way for a rather brusque but factual guide to obtaining free technical support on the Internet. Wikipedia is a do it yourself system, with all that entails. --Teratornis (talk) 18:30, 22 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Creating an article with an existing title
I am so sorry - I'm sure that there is advice on this but I cannot find it in the FAQs or Reference Desk.
How do I create an article that has the same title as an existing article?
I am trying to create a page for John Illsley's new album BEAUTIFUL YOU. Unfortunately as there is a page with this name it always redirects there. Please help Silencelee (talk) 15:42, 22 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Since there's more than one work with this title, I'd suggest creating an article title Beautiful You (John Illsley album). The article Beautiful You could be changed to a disambiguation page with links to both that article and Carly Smithson, who wrote the single by the same name. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 15:49, 22 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
For general guidance see WP:DISAMBIG. --Teratornis (talk) 18:46, 22 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
HELP!!!!
the Tropical cyclone Article has been deleted. please revise it —Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.229.88.182 (talk) 16:46, 22 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Fixed before you finished typing your comment, but it still lasted a shocking 2 minutes and 41 seconds. Oof. Someguy1221 (talk) 16:49, 22 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
It's actually encouraging that a user could find the Help desk that quickly. We get reports from other users that they had to search for a long time before they could figure out where to ask a question. I guess it depends on where a user happens to look first. --Teratornis (talk) 17:02, 22 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
There was actually 48 minutes where Tropical cyclone was either blank or had no valid content. That is not good for a featured article. I am adding it to my watchlist. PrimeHunter (talk) 18:14, 22 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
What happened was it was blanked, and another edit was made, prompting ClueBot to revert that edit back to the blank one. Agreed, that shouldn't happen. –Juliancolton ^Tropical ^Cyclone 18:20, 22 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Transcluding Templates onto Talk Pages
Am I permitted to create my own templates that I can post on a talk page, because I'm getting bored of typing it out all the time. If ones already exist, where can I find them? Eg. One saying "Wikipedia is not a forum. Also, please remember to sign your posts." Thanks, Genius101 _{T. C.} 20:57, 22 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Several standardized talk page posts can be found here. I believe that the two you are wanting are {{uw-chat1}} and {{uw-tilde}}. --- Barek (talk • contribs) - 21:05, 22 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Message templates to talk pages should be substituted so the content doesn't change later. You can make user subpages and use them like you would use templates with {{subst:User:Barek/Name}}. If they are subst'ed then it doesn't matter where the original is. Don't create your own non-standardized messages in template space. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:23, 22 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
A schizophrenic template
I have a schizophrenic template {{sea shell topics}}. If you examine it, you will see I recently edited it and added an item. If you click on one of the items, it will take to an article which also has the transcluded template. However the template does not update on those articles, that is, it displays the version prior to my latest edit. Weird. --Geronimo20 (talk) 21:19, 22 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
It's Wikipedia's Cache. It will take a while (sometimes 15-30(?) minutes) for all the pages that use the template to update to use it. You can purge the page to force the update. You can also bypass your computer's cache, as it may just be your computer loading an old version you looked at before. Someguy1221 (talk) 21:24, 22 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The time depends on the length of the job queue which can be seen at Special:Statistics and can be in the millions, taking much more than 30 minutes. In this case there is no reason to trouble an editor or the servers with a purge. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:30, 22 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
WikiMonitor
I used to use VandalProof a lot but it is now defunct. I am told WikiMonitor has the same facilities. I have downlaoded it but cannot get it to run. Can anyone here help me please? SpinningSpark 22:04, 22 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Archivists of the United States
I was able to make some minor edits to the list of Archivists of the United States. However, the lead paragraph could also use a little editing. But there is no "edit" button associated with the lead paragraph and I can't figure out how to do the edits.
Thanks.
John J. Landers —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.178.166.177 (talk) 23:09, 22 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
To edit the lead section, simply click the "edit this page" tab at the top of the article. You could also click on any section-edit button and manually change &section=NUMBER (where NUMBER will always be some integer) to &section=0 - Press enter and you will open the section edit box for the lead paragraph. Are you having any other problems with the edits? Someguy1221 (talk) 23:15, 22 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
September 23
Assuming Good Faith
I'm still kind of confused as to what assuming good faith is. Like, I'm using Twinkle. What does the Rollback AGF thing mean? I thought it was something to use if a person was trying to help but they weren't helping WIkipedia with the edit, and they should be treated differently than vandals, but today I was told otherwise... could someone explain this to me in more detail? THe project page didn't help much. KJS77 Join the Revolution 00:15, 23 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Well, yes that's the general idea. See WP:AGF. That particular edit was not clear vandalism, probably a good faith edit or a test. What you have done is correct (reverting it using 'rollback AGF' in twinkle). The message you have received is about using rollback. Rollback should not be used unless it is clearly vandalism, but using Twinkle is not the same as using rollback. I think the user who gave you the message must have misunderstood. Cheers. Chamal ^Talk ± 00:27, 23 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Problem this afternoon
Hey, I'm pretty sure this is the wrong place, sorry, but I coudln't find anywhere else to post this. I tried to open Wikipedia today and got an error page from the Wikimedia foundation saying that was a problem, try back in a few minutes which didn't work so I tried every now and then over the course of an hour and still couldn't access the site. The error page said to report the problem and quote this code: "Request: GET http://en.wikipedia.org/, from 78.105.17.164 via knsq2.knams.wikimedia.org (squid/2.6.STABLE21) to () Error: ERR_SOCKET_FAILURE, errno (98) Address already in use at Mon, 22 Sep 2008 15:18:58 GMT". That's all, no question, just thought I'd let you guys know about it. Sorry about posting this here, but I couldn't find a better place to post this - I'd suggest making the system for reporting errors like this a little clearer. I didn't think it was a software bug so I didn't put it in that section, but maybe I should have. Thanks all the same. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.105.17.164 (talk) 01:12, 23 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Server problem; see Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)#error. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk - 01:17, 23 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
New Article Creation & Posting
Hello,
I've just created a new article "Riedel Global Experts". The creation of the page was fine, but when I search for it, I can't find it until I go back to my account and see user:Riedel Global Experts.
Q#1 Is this posting in the process of being added to Wiki or Q#2 do I need to followup additional steps to have the article appear to the public?
Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Riedel Global Experts (talk • contribs) 01:32, 23 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Where to start? You've created a userpage, not an article, about Reidel Global Experts. It looks very much like an advert, against Wikipedia's rules - rather than delete it myself, I've tagged it for another administrator to review. Your username is promotional, which is again inappropriate. Please don't use Wikipedia for advertising in the future. If you want to stay, please ask to change your username before this account is blocked. Regards, Bencherlite ^Talk 01:41, 23 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, you really need to read WP:FAQ#BUSINESS. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk - 01:56, 23 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
WP:FAQ/Business works better. PrimeHunter (talk) 02:01, 23 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
net work operation
I want know working and operation of net —Preceding unsigned comment added by 218.248.68.63 (talk) 04:41, 23 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
You might find what you are looking for in the article about Internet. If you cannot find the answer there, you can try asking your question at Wikipedia's Reference Desk. They will be glad to try to answer questions about anything in the universe (except about how to use Wikipedia, which is what this help desk is for). I hope this helps. Zain Ebrahim (talk) 06:14, 23 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
A question was recently asked about how the Internet works, you can find it here. Good luck, Matt (Talk) 06:23, 23 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Check an edit please
Could some kind editor please check this edit. I don't feel comfortable going to the site (I'm at work) that the IP added to see if it's a legit edit (official site of the subject) or not. Thanks, Dismas|^(talk) 06:33, 23 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I took a look at it, seems official enough, probably not a problem to have on the article. (It's pretty tame by internet standards, but you're probably better off staying away from it at work all the same.) AlexiusHoratius 07:16, 23 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks! Dismas|^(talk) 07:40, 23 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Images that are on Commons: when should they have a page here?
I'm noticing that a lot of images that are actually at Commons are also "here" as well, in that they have a page that just consists of something like a category, but no file attached (an example: Image:Aplomado.JPG). Why do we need these pseudo-images here? Commons has both categories for sorting all files, and galleries for displaying an organized collection of good images. I suppose featured pictures can be an exception, but is there anything else that should have a page here? There isn't really any central place to discuss images (and get a response within any reasonable period of time) so I'm asking here instead. Do we even have a policy/guideline on this? Richard001 (talk) 06:54, 23 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
You might want to look at WikiProject Moving free images to Wikimedia Commons Lego K^ontribs T^alk M 07:33, 23 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
how to start writing?
Hi,
I just sign up at wikipedia,and actually id like to write about some designers profile to add on in wikipedia, But im little confused, where/how can i start to write the article.
Thank you so much.

Fullofthreads (talk) 07:28, 23 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Please see Your first article.
Ensure that you have an account and you are logged in. If you don't have an account, create one

Make sure the subject is notable enough to have their own article

Find references

Make sure no article on the subject exists under a different title by typing the subject into the search box to the left (←) and clicking 'Search'

Type the page name in the search box to the left (←) and click 'Go'

Click 'Create this page'

Create the article, including all your references, making sure you adhere to the Manual of Style and our article layout guidelines

Be aware that Wikipedia deletes thousands of new articles for failing to adhere to our policies and guidelines. New articles by new users are at extra risk of deletion, due to new users' unfamiliarity with our rules. Consider gaining experience by editing existing articles before attempting to create new ones Dark Mage 07:30, 23 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Jaygray3 (talk) 09:06, 23 September 2008 (UTC)Johnny Gray Bio Page
I want to edit this page. But I need to be a member of group it says. I am his son and want to add more to the page. Also add a picture as well.
Jaygray3 (talk) 09:06, 23 September 2008 (UTC)Johnny Gray III[reply]
What says that you need to be a member of a group? I just edited the Johnny Gray article, I'm assuming that's the article that you're talking about, and I didn't get any sort of warning about a group.

You're free to edit the page although you can't just go adding anything that you happen to know about your father. Whatever information that you add should have a reliable source. Also, your edits may be suspect since you represent a conflict of interest. It is possible to edit articles about family members but generally people find it hard to maintain a neutral point of view. Dismas|^(talk) 09:17, 23 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The database was locked a few minutes ago. Perhaps that's what confused the OP. Zain Ebrahim (talk) 09:24, 23 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
rename my article
i worte an article named: Concord reaserch center.
due to spelling error and inaccuracy, i want to cahnge his name but i was unsuccessful in doing it.
the new name i want to give it is- Concord Research Center for Integration of International Law in Israel
thank you, ariel —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ariel Yosef (talk • contribs) 10:11, 23 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
In general this is done with the move 'tab' but your account is to fresh to do that. Now it seems to me that 'in Israel' is not really part of the institute's name nor would adding it comply with our naming conventions. so should the title be " Concord Research Center for Integration of International Law"?--Tikiwont (talk) 12:50, 23 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I've moved the article to Concord research center. Let me know if this helps. TN‑X-Man 12:51, 23 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
congo
what are pygmes and bantu negrors —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.163.9.107 (talk) 10:17, 23 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Have you tried Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. I hope this helps. Algebraist 10:19, 23 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Comments finding their way to /Comments
Why do anonymous users leave comments at /Comments pages, eg Talk:Philip Henry Gosse/Comments?--Commander Keane (talk) 11:57, 23 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Hmm, it's probably a test page I proposed that subpage to be removed under criteria CSD G2 and have left a deletion template on it. Dark Mage 12:09, 23 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
It's not a test page. It's transcluded into the talk page by {{WPBiography}}. The anon must have clicked on the 'leave comments here' link. Algebraist 12:27, 23 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Specifically it is a sub-page for comments about the article assessment only. I am going to blank that comment as it is not related to such assessment. – ukexpat (talk) 16:10, 23 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Communicate before editing
I am a new as a member but a regular user. In looking at the page for my hometown, Cumberland, MD, I find the history section to be very lacking. I'm a long time history buff of the area and would like to rewrite the history section. BUT I don't want to just jump in and do that. I would rather communicate with whoever created the page and ask their blessing. And also since I'm new I was hoping that person would help me with the technical part as well. How can I find out who I should try to communicate with? Or should I just go ahead and do my edit and see if anyone objects? —Preceding unsigned comment added by WoofOH (talk • contribs) 13:24, 23 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
You can find out the page creator and major contributors from the page history. Remember that you have to add references to the information you're adding. You can discuss about your edits at the article's talk page. For further help, you can go to WP:WikiProject Maryland, WP:WikiProject Cities or WP:WikiProject West Virginia and ask for any help and guidance on the talk pages. Cheers. Chamal ^Talk ± 13:40, 23 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The jury's still out on this one. What happens if you post your recommendation on the talk page and no one responds after a week? Me, I prefer the Wikipedia:BOLD, revert, discuss cycle. Zain Ebrahim (talk) 14:13, 23 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
You should at least check the discussion page to ensure that what you want to enter hasn't been discussed and removed previously. -- kainaw ™ 14:26, 23 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
As Zain Ebrahim111 notes, in some cases, posting recommendations and waiting for feedback can take a week or more. On the other hand, in some cases being bold can lead to acrimonious discussions that sap the time and energy of editors for weeks. It depends a lot on the nature of the article and the edits. Also on whether you have the patience to wait for feedback or prefer the "acrimonious discussion" route. Wanderer57 (talk) 15:09, 23 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
smile: don't worry - talk page discussions aren't always acrimonious! and a sort of "compromise route" that i find works pretty well is to read the talk page, then explain my proposed changes there, then wait a day or two to see if there are any reactions before going ahead and making my changes to the article itself. works for me ... usually 8) Sssoul (talk) 16:01, 23 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
glass icons
how do i go about finding out what it is regards —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.35.177.148 (talk) 14:14, 23 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Have you tried Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. I hope this helps. Algebraist 14:18, 23 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Introduction of Potato in India
I am keen to know when and who introducted the farming of potatoes in India? There is sopme confusion of the use of batata (the local term for potato and also for sweet-potatoes).
Any inputs are welcome.

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 :Have you tried Wikipedia's [[Wikipedia:Reference desk|Reference Desk]]? They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. I hope this helps. [[User talk:Algebraist|Algebraist]] 14:18, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
+== Introduction of Potato in India ==
+I am keen to know when and who introducted the farming of potatoes in India? There is sopme confusion of the use of batata (the local term for potato and also for sweet-potatoes).
+Any inputs are welcome.

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