User talk:Kipoc

Aldi Competitors

If you look at the US comptetitors, only the 'discount' supermarkets are shown. If you want to include Coles and Woolworths, then I believe that the long list of supermarket chains in the US should also be included. What do you think? 211.30.123.137 (talk) 04:37, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

If you look at Talk:Aldi, you will see that the decision has been made to keep the Competitors list to 'Top competitors' or 'Main, direct' competitors. The criteria is still not for "Discount supermarkets" - Coles and Woolworths would certainly be considered two of the primary main competitors of Aldi in Australia. Kipoc (talk) 04:41, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

Ok, I didn't notice the talk page.211.30.123.137 (talk) 04:44, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

Thanks

Thank you Kipoc for reverting a vandal attack on my talk page and also on many other pages. Please accept this anti-vandalism barnstar.

		The RickK Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
		for being a relentless vandalism slayer --leandros (talk) 08:26, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

Thank you Leandros! :) Kipoc (talk) 09:56, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

Thanks!

Thanks for the birthday greeting! I was just wondering how you got my birthday, because I didn't see my name on any of the birthday lists. I appreciate the thought, thanks again! Voyaging^(talk) 15:37, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

Very welcome! :) I found your birthday listed on m:List of Wikimedians by birthday! Hope it was a great day! Kipoc (talk) 20:15, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

Ohh, okay! Thanks, it was definitely! Voyaging^(talk) 17:50, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

St Laurence's College

You replaced the common names? These ones, "(commonly known as SLC or Lauries)". Do you happen to have a reference that says these are the common names? So when it says "commonly known as". Who is it commonly known by?--Sting Buzz Me... 11:48, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

Yes I did - I placed one there originally and another was added at a later time by another editor. The college is known by these common names by students, staff and the wider school community.

• For SLC, I point to the school's domain name - http://www.slc.qld.edu.au and the following Marist College, Ashgrove site linking to CIC schools with common names - http://www.marash.qld.edu.au/sport_cic_venues.shtml
• For Lauries, I point to a page from the college website (see final paragraph) http://www.slc.qld.edu.au/slcweb/primary.htm and the prementioned Ashgrove site - http://www.marash.qld.edu.au/sport_cic_venues.shtml

I hope this satisfies your verifiability request - I will edit the article to include this information. Kipoc (talk) 12:09, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

They're not common names. They are abbreviations. It makes the lead look messy. I think it looks much nicer without "(commonly known as SLC or Lauries)" The refs are from Qld Ed, so not third party as per WP:RS anyhow.--Sting Buzz Me... 12:36, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

If it's an issue of article appearance, that is a completely separate issue to sources. In my opinion regarding page appearance, the addition of citations makes it messier - I think the statement in question looks fine otherwise.

The requirement for sources on how the school is commonly referred to (regardless of whether it's a common name, abbreviation or acronym) forces the use of such sources as those utilised. Peer reviewed journals, newspapers, etc do not typically list such details of schools. I believe your interpretation of various policies including MOS:ABBR, WP:CITE & WP:VERIFY may differ from mine but I believe one of the statements from WP:VERIFY is appropriate here - The appropriateness of any source always depends on the context. The statement of how the school is commonly referred to is not a contentious statement in itself, is not a fringe theory or totally unverifiable. Kipoc (talk) 13:29, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

Hmm? Ok, I think your interpretation of WP:CITE may differ to mine? I was puzzled by your use of "WP:CITE#CHALLENGED" in an edit summary? That just didn't make any sense at all. Absolutely no discussion was needed to remove abbreviated names in the lead (which fails WP:MOS in my opinion) as all was needed was a mention of what I did in the edit summary. Anyhow, I disagree with the so called "common" names being there so I've given my opinion on the article. It honestly does make the lead look messy.--Sting Buzz Me... 22:13, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

Actually you know, It's such a small thing. Remove them, reword them, move them to another section - whatever you deem appropriate. I believe that they make provide a useful bit of information regarding the school but I also can't see why it's worth debating further. I've edited my talk page to remove my initial response in favour of this statement so you can look at the history if you want but for six words, an argument regarding Wikipedia policy is wasting both our time. I won't act on the statement in question again and I leave the final decision to you. Kipoc (talk) 07:39, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

Adoption

I would like to adopt you. Drop me a message on my talk page if you think the same. Gaia Octavia Agrippa ^Talk | _Sign 09:58, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

To start check out the page I have made a page especially for you and your adoption program here. Read through what is on there and follow the links. If you have any questions, place them on the talk page under the heading Introduction. Also if you could fill out some details about what you want from this adoption and what your interests are would help me direct your program. Thanks :) Gaia Octavia Agrippa ^Talk | _Sign 09:31, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

Well done

		Award of First Success
		Well done. You have completed the first task i have set you. And with flying colours. :) Gaia Octavia Agrippa Talk | Sign 23:01, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

Thank you! :D Kipoc (talk) 05:32, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

Cabal

I would like to invite you to join the League of friends cabal. Gaia Octavia Agrippa ^Talk | _Sign 23:26, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

Espadrilles

If you complain about my insertions to the page, please note that all links, especially the one to Bangladesh are commercial links. Please be consistent.... I am a designer of espadrilles and posted a very up to date piece on the modern state of espadrille manufacture with no commercial bias. This was deleted, so you now have a poor page of information which is loaded towards a single manufacturer.(petertoledo)

Responded on your talk page. Kipoc (talk) 06:31, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for your advice, however you omitted to delete the worst offender. pare gabia have a link to a page on Wikipedia that is just an advert . Can you explain this?

I believe your expectation of me to explain and the assertion I omitted something I was not aware of (again) is no appropriate in this case. I acted previously on your comments regarding external links - you made no mention of another page of concern. Now I am aware of it, I will examine the page and act as per Wikipedia policy - something that is entirely within your ability to do as well. Kipoc (talk) 08:30, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

Hi Kipoc,

Price of espadrilles varies wildly worldwide and people are highly interested to get pricing information of espadrilles naturally. So, External Links containing prices from Manufacturers' level to Retail level could be included at the page to meet the demand of users. This is not for advertising purpose obviously.

Cheers!

David

PS. Pare Gabia is one of the oldest espadrille designers in the world and deserve to be included at Wikipedia (just like other worldclass companies) and Rat is just a mushroom grown designer with low quality Mexican products and deserve not to be included at the Wikipedia. The whole espadrille industry in the world including Spain, France etc. are powered by the jute of Bangladesh and deserve to be included at the Wikipedia for information purpose I believe. Even the jute used to make Rat espadrilles came from Bangladesh for sure. 117.18.224.166 (talk) 04:45, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

I have responded to the suggestion that the external links were placed to provide a comparison of pricing at the Espadrilles talk page. As to the postscript, I am not going to get involved in the specific conflict of interest that appears to exist - competing commercial interests are not consistent with a neutral point of view in my opinion. The Pare Gabia page was nominited for deletion as it provided no sources, appears to be worded using sales pitch vocabulary and provides no evidence of notability. Should you believe that the company fits the policy set in WP:ORG, the article would need to be sourced to fit that belief. It would likely need to be rewritten to be encyclopediac as well. Kipoc (talk) 07:00, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

Sellers who are selling at high prices never wants that people know other sellers who are selling same products at low prices. So, high price sellers would like to pay editors to remove externel links from the Wikipedia. Blocking knowledge must not be the policy of an encyclopedia. Little learning is a dangerous thing and editors without sufficient knowledge are also dangerous for mankind. Major69 (talk) 06:35, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

Right, well sorry to say but I think that's weak. The fact remains that, as much as you twist the reason for their presence on the web, the links do not provide a knowledge source so their removal is 1) not blocking knowledge and 2) entirely per WP policy. The vague suggestion or insinuation that I am being paid (what a job that would be!) to remove external links is laughable, as is the dangerous for mankind ending. Thanks for making me smile! In the meantime, please check out WP:EL to understand wikipedia policy on External Links. Kipoc (talk) 06:48, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

Adoption tasks

I see from your contributions that you have been online almost every day, yet you have not completed the tasks that i have set you. They are not big tasks, and would only take five minutes of your time. If it is just the case that you have not realised that i have set you new tasks, can i strongly recommend that you add your program page to your watch list if you have not done so already. I am not asking for much and the tasks i set you are for your benefit. Thank you. Gaia Octavia Agrippa ^Talk | _Sign 12:57, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

Apologies - It is on my watchlist, however so are far too many things obviously and I missed it. All sorted Kipoc (talk) 16:17, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

Edit to TylerPuetz

Hey... could you not revert my edit's to TylerPuetz? I was trying to add an inactivity note explaining why I haven't edited in over 3 months. -- TylerPuetz(notloggedin)

Woah, really sorry about that, I was looking at the wrong edit history, User talk instead of User:, please disregard the above message.

No problems - just went to look what had happened and I'd reverted vandalism on your talk page as you referred to. Everything seems ok now though. Kipoc (talk) 07:02, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

Just wondering

I was just interested to know, you identify yourself as a 'queer' as on your userpage. Do you get much abuse from other members of the public for doing so? This assuming of course that you are open about your orientation. You don't have to answer this if it's too personal, and I apologise if that is the case. But sometimes, my curiosity gets the better of me :-(. Regards, A Prodigy ~In Pursuit of Perfection~ 21:16, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

Hey there - no problems at all. I've never had any issues on wikipedia and none offline either although I'm sure that's not representative of everyone. I think that environment has a lot to do with it as well - urban environment vs rural environment as attitudes tend to differ on average between the two  :) Kipoc (talk) 01:13, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of User talk:141.209.214.34

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