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September 2008

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You should show me how it is to walk with one foot in the mouth and one ... some other place. Miroj (talk) 15:53, 30 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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A Few Notes

Hi Miroj, I have been asked to take a look at some of your recent edits, comments, and discussions. I hope you don't mind if I make a few suggestions:

sarcasm is one of my favourite tools, but be careful that it doesn't become uncivil
like, whatever is something we need to say occasionally. Wikipedia is communal - it looks like a lot of people decided that an article you did a lot of work on was not valid on WP. In that case, sometimes it's good to think about how it all matters in the multiverse
policy wonks Wikipedia is policy-driven. I see you have a really good "Welcome" at the top of this page that links to a lot of those policies. It is good to familiarize yourself with them to avoid frustration later. When there are problems, experienced editors might actually draw your attention to specific policies (such as WP:OWN)...that's always a good time to a minor reality check, and it's not always an "attack" by the other editor - we all should be helping each other.
new comments go last on other people's Talk pages. You're welcome to edit your own talk page however you want (within reason) but new discussions go at the bottom, and be careful not to accidentally delete existing information from other people's pages - only they have the right to do so (within reason).

All in all, I believe that having passion for articles is a good thing, as it helps make better articles AND better editors. If you have any questions, problems, let me know. BMW(drive) 08:57, 2 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the thoughtful reply. Sometimes, the "community" does call for "sit down and shut up" to all of us - there are days we're a "hippie commune" and some days we're the "Borg Collective". Funny how community has the two extremes. Even Wikipedia, in the midst of its rules, has the WP:IAR rule. We're told to be "bold in our edits". It's weird at times, but I would rather point out ways to improve, rather than put a "you're bad" template some days. I was surprised someone used the Turing Test analogy, and was humoured by it. Unfortunately, I do agree that the article in question probably did not belong on Wikipedia ... in fact, it's the kind of information I would build a website for, put ads that generated me some $$$, and maybe even a $5/year membership to access the information. BMW(drive) 11:32, 2 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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 All in all, I believe that having passion for articles is a good thing, as it helps make better articles AND better editors.  If you have any questions, problems, let me know.  <small><span style="border:1px solid black;padding:1px;">[[User:Bwilkins|<font style="color:#ffffff;background:black;">'''BMW'''</font>]][[User talk:Bwilkins#top|<font style="color:#000000;background:white;">(drive)</font>]]</span></small> 08:57, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
 : Thanks for the thoughtful reply.  Sometimes, the "community" does call for "sit down and shut up" to all of us - there are days we're a "hippie commune" and some days we're the "Borg Collective".  Funny how community has the two extremes.  Even Wikipedia, in the midst of its rules, has the [[WP:IAR]] rule.   We're told to be "bold in our edits".  It's weird at times, but I would rather point out ways to improve, rather than put a "you're bad" template some days.  I was surprised someone used the Turing Test analogy, and was humoured by it.  Unfortunately, I do agree that the article in question probably did not belong on Wikipedia ... in fact, it's the kind of information I would build a website for, put ads that generated me some $$$, and maybe even a $5/year membership to access the information. <small><span style="border:1px solid black;padding:1px;">[[User:Bwilkins|<font style="color:#ffffff;background:black;">'''BMW'''</font>]][[User talk:Bwilkins#top|<font style="color:#000000;background:white;">(drive)</font>]]</span></small> 11:32, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
-== Mercedes Benz SA codes ==
-Hello. I've closed the debate on [[Mercedes Benz SA codes]] as a delete. As you argued quite passionately for it, I'd like to write a note about my reasoning: I think some of the comments made against you in the debate were unfortunate, but the essential argument boiled down to that this type of information, while very useful, is a bit too specialized to belong in a general encyclopedia like Wikipedia. BTW, A vehicle parts site on [[Wikia]] might be an idea, if you feel up to it.
-I would of course be happy to give you access to a copy of the article, if you'd like to use the info somewhere else. Let me know if you have any questions. Best of luck, <strong>[[user:henrik|<font color="#B38F00">henrik</font>]]<small>•[[user talk:henrik|<font color="#AFA29F">talk</font>]]</small></strong> 21:49, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
-: Thanks for the information. Much appreciated. [[User:Miroj|Miroj]] ([[User talk:Miroj#top|talk]]) 23:19, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
-Here you go:
-{{hide|bg1= FF F8 DC|contentcss=border:1px #008080solid; |headercss=color:black; |header=Contents of [[Mercedes Benz SA codes]]|content=
-This page is a crosslist of automotive technology and Mercedes-Benz PKW, passenger motor vehicle.<ref>Daimler VeDoc system </ref>  For the benefit of identification of the meaning of option codes. This is not a commercial advertisement.
-These codes also cross-match with codes used in [[EPCnet]] and [[WISnet]] by [[Daimler]], [[Mercedes-Benz]]. It is also a companion to the model series of various cars.
-== Software codes ==
-* 440 Cruise control with Tempomat
-== Electronic options ==
-* 219 [[Distronic]]
-* 220 [[Parktronic]]
-* 390 [[Linguatronic]] Voice control system - English
-* 386 [[UHI phone]] system
-* 810 [[BOSE]] or [[Harmon Kardon]] sound system
-* 860 TV analogue
-* 861
-* 862 TV prewire - all wiring in place
-* 863 TV digital with analogue
-* 864 RES - Rear seat entertainment system
-* 899 Keyless Go
-==References==
-<references/>
-}}
-<strong>[[user:henrik|<font color="#B38F00">henrik</font>]]<small>•[[user talk:henrik|<font color="#AFA29F">talk</font>]]</small></strong> 11:20, 4 October 2008 (UTC)