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::I'm satisfied with the wording in [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Template:In_the_news&oldid=248153416 the current version]. --[[User:Soman|Soman]] ([[User talk:Soman|talk]]) 13:14, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
::I'm satisfied with the wording in [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Template:In_the_news&oldid=248153416 the current version]. --[[User:Soman|Soman]] ([[User talk:Soman|talk]]) 13:14, 28 October 2008 (UTC)


===Comma after states and countries===
A comma is missing in the phrase "A bomb attack in Zagreb, Croatia kills Ivo Pukanić ...". Without the comma, the phrase falls into the following two clauses: "A bomb attack in Zagreb" and "Croatia kills Ivo Pukanić ...". The first clause us incomplete (a verb is missing), and the second clause is false.

The same thing could be said about the phrase "A bomb blast in Imphal, India kills 17 ...".

The qualifications Croatia and India, respectively, are to be regarded as parentheticals, and the parenthetical should be concluded with a comma, except for at the beginning or end of a sentence (where it would result in double punctuation).

[[User:LarRan|LarRan]] ([[User talk:LarRan|talk]]) 18:16, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
:I agree but the consensus went against me. [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:Did_you_know&diff=245358847&oldid=245358767] and [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:Did_you_know&diff=244840844&oldid=244839418] were part of the united opposition to [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:Did_you_know&diff=244679745&oldid=244671191].

::Concur, per [[comma (punctuation)]]. A comma is also missing between "Belarus" and "which" in the FA blurb. [[User:Aille|Aille]] ([[User talk:Aille|talk]]) 00:32, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
:::Since I (ignorantly?) opposed a similar change a few days ago, let me rectify it by correcting the FA blurb :) [[User:Fvasconcellos|Fvasconcellos]]<small>&nbsp;([[User talk:Fvasconcellos|t]]·[[Special:Contributions/Fvasconcellos|c]])</small> 00:41, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
:The comma (punctuation) article was edited recently, removing support for my position. Previous versions clearly stated that there should be concluding commas. [[User:LarRan|LarRan]] ([[User talk:LarRan|talk]]) 12:16, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
::There ''should'' be concluding commas. I am adding a cite tag to the assertion that this isn't universal. [[Special:Contributions/168.9.120.8|168.9.120.8]] ([[User talk:168.9.120.8|talk]]) 17:44, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
:::I'm not so sure. Croatia isn't a parenthetical, the term 'Zagreb, Croatia' could be treated as a single subject by itself, in the same way we would say 'blast in New York City kills...' and not 'blast in New York City, kills...'. That being said for comprehension's sake an extra comma could be useful. My formal writing has been criticized for having too many commas though so I'm probably not in the bast position to comment one way or the other.--<font color="#3B9C9C">[[User:Random89|Random]]</font><font color="#F87217">[[User Talk:Random89|89]]</font> 21:28, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
::::Croatia ''is'' a parenthetical. Zagreb is where something happens. If I don't know where Zagreb is, I should look it up... or the author of the sentence should include a parenthetical in the form of "In Zagreb, Croatia, blah blah blah." In your New York City counter-example, New York City plays the role of Zagreb, not Croatia. A more accurate analogy would be "A blast in New York City, New York, kills..." [[Special:Contributions/168.9.120.8|168.9.120.8]] ([[User talk:168.9.120.8|talk]]) 12:01, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
::::Addendum: I see that the "this is not universal" bit in [[comma (punctuation)]] has been removed. The user who removed it correctly stated that the ''usage'' of the concluding comma is not universal; however, this doesn't make the omission of that comma ''correct''. [[Special:Contributions/168.9.120.8|168.9.120.8]] ([[User talk:168.9.120.8|talk]]) 12:05, 28 October 2008 (UTC)


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Attack on Syria

Notwitstanding the fact that the current wording buys the Pengaton press release version wholse, it is also problematic in its description of reality. The wording at present is "United States Special Forces carry out a raid on a foreign fighter logistics network". In short, U.S. forces attack foreign fighters in Syria? Who are the foreigners here really? Is a U.S. soldier in Syria less foreign than a Syrian, Lebanese or Yemenite? Moreover, in Syria no Arab is considered a foreigner (ajnabi). --Soman (talk) 19:49, 27 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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