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Watcher in the Water

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This guy is not notable (fails the four-pronged test). He has only a couple of minutes of screentime in the film and maybe is the focus of half of chapter in the book and doesn't even have a name. Now Middle-Earth is one of those subject matters where you can find a lot of information about practically anything you want, so fluffing up this article was not hard to do. But if you actually consider the real world impact it has, it's pretty much zero. Belongs on the LOTR Wiki, not here. Remurmur (talk) 02:44, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

• Keep, there exists many sources from third parties, proving its notability. That is the bare minimum to achieve notability for an article.  Marlith (Talk)  04:15, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
• Keep Monster with a significant role in the plot. That he doesn't have a name is part of the desired effect, not that the author thought it not worth the bother. Tolkien used names so effectively that the failure to do so here indicates an addition dimension of horror. There will be enough references, a with everything on this universe, so the argument would have to be what elements of his works are intrinsically unnotable regardlesss of sources. I don't think theats a sound principle. DGG (talk) 10:07, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
• Strong Keep as a fairly well-sourced, detailed article about a character with a significant (albeit comparatively minor) role. onebravemonkey 10:23, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
• Keep Significant character, acceptable sourcing. GlassCobra 11:36, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
• Keep; sufficiently sourced and a significant character is a notable work of fiction. Satisfies every requirement I know of. Per nom's comments, its role in the movies is irrelevant; all we care about are the books. 23skidoo (talk) 15:24, 25 November 2008 (UTC)