Talk:The Bat!

NPOV Issues

Sounds a little bit too much like marketing material from the makers of the software. Also, it says (regarding spam filtering): "but this [is] because it is one of the default settings in the Advanced Mass Sender program, which is frequently used for sending spam mail." What is "Advanced Mass Sender"? Is it spamware, part of The Bat!, or what? 216.111.97.126 20:59, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

"Advanced Mass Sender" is a spamware. --Maxim Masiutin 11:18, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

...made by one Max Terentiev _> MonstaPro:Talk 19:44, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Is it ok with Wikipedia policy that Maxim Masiutin writes about his own product? Thanks to him, however, for writing under his real name.

Probably not, but you can tag the article with {{main|Wikipedia:Neutral point of view}} tag; as long as you sign your comments! _> MonstaPro:Talk 19:44, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

I don't see any reason why the author can't write an article about his own product in an encyclopedia, after all he is supposedly the one who knows the product best. As long as he can maintain a neutral point of view in writing it that is Ufopedia (talk) 05:51, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

20% (not 3% as the author believes) of the suspicious emails I receive have the 'X-Mailer: The Bat' header. All(!) of them have contained spam so far. So, sad as it is, I'll continue to block these until I see a reason not to. //Ted Lyngmo —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 85.195.27.81 (talk) 06:28, August 22, 2007 (UTC)

POV

I removed the mention that The Bat is intuituve as this is very POV (I personnally think it's not intuitive) and the refered article is just an obscure web page where it is also said that "The Bat is intuitive" without arguments. Also removed "extremely" from "extremely powerful filtering capabilities". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.159.87.157 (talk) 23:35, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

Re: Dating and Romance scammers and The Bat!

Hello there, my name is Graeme; I would like to bring to your attention. That in the article there is no mention or discussion that "The Bat!" this program is constantly used some of the most unethical means by "Dating or Romance scammers" from pretty much or all of the Former Soviet States and the current Russian Federation. I believe this is relevant in both "romance dating scams" or what is called the "Russian Marriage scams" and computer and internet security and online-fraud related issues.

As for combating against scams using legitimate means I am informing you all regards this particular "unethical usage" of the mass mailing client "The Bat!". I actively participate on a site called "http://www.romancescam.com/" to whom we actively discusses, Russian and Nigerian scammers and their Modus Operandi and how best to "scam bait" as well as how best to track, expose, document their scams and alert other' members or the public at large who may not be aware of the wave of "dating scammer after dating scammer".

I felt this to be an important discussion since I found no information when viewing the specs on your page concerning "The Bat!". I wish you the best in documenting this program, and its legitimate and non-legitimate and or "controversial uses".

In your email header be in on web based email or "pop3 email client" the bat is very noticeable regards to its signature which is basically the name of the program, the version of the program and the IP-address of the scammer in suspicion.

Thank you.

>>> From Graeme, in Canada.

PS: Please note' I am speaking on behalf as an individual not as a representative of the site "romancescam.net" despite my active participation.

Please check out the relevant sites concerning dating scammers and the bat or other mass communications

http://www.romancescam.com/ an evolving database of Nigerian and Russian dating scammers.

http://www.softsea.com/review/AntispamSniper-for-The-Bat.html - a freeware program which blocks, deletes and detects spam generated by "The bat!". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.52.149.45 (talk) 21:36, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

This topic is already discussed in the article, under the note that many spam emails are using forged headers to appear as if they're using The Bat! clients. That aside, your post reeks of spam for your site. The AntispamSniper plug-in is an anti-spam tool FOR The Bat! client, so it's not clear why you included it. Rurik (talk) 01:58, 28 November 2008 (UTC)