But the user that you have warned for the violation is still doing it(user Mark Harris).By the way i havea lready talked this through with an editor that in the past has also had questions about it, but then told me that with a reliable source and accordind to Wikipedia's editing policy i can make that mention in the article, and so i did.
But the user that you have warned for the violation is still doing it(user Mark Harris).By the way i havea lready talked this through with an editor that in the past has also had questions about it, but then told me that with a reliable source and accordind to Wikipedia's editing policy i can make that mention in the article, and so i did.
:He will get a short block if he oversteps the the three reverts. [[User:Keith D|Keith D]] ([[User talk:Keith D#top|talk]]) 20:31, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
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re Burnsall images. Thanks for interpolation of my image with the existing. As stated in my Edit summary, I opened a gallery as I will be adding in the next few days pictures of the village illus. of the stub: notably of the church. So I'll reinstitute the gallery. I'm staying briefly in the area, am a photographer as well as a contributor. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Alethe (talk • contribs) 21:08, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
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As mentioned in the October newsletter, Wikipedia DVD Version 0.7, which aims to be a collection of around 30,000 articles taken from the English version of Wikipedia needed work to prepare 43 of the project's articles for the DVD.
The process of producing the list of articles for the DVD is now completed and thanks are due to the many members who made a contribution to the effort. The list of selected Yorkshire articles can be seen here.
The selection was done using a scoring system depending on the project's assessment, the number of incoming links to the article, the number of interwiki links the article had and the number of times the article had been viewed.
Only two of our top priority articles were not selected, Ripon and Wakefield, the others were cleaned up, improved, expanded and copyedited as far as time allowed.
There has again been a number of suggestions on the ToDo list at Yorkshire Portal and this has been kept up to date.
The football and rugby editors have continued keeping abreast of most, if not all, of the top clubs.
WikiProkject Yorkshire editors have been busy on vandal patrol at watchlist. Thanks.
A big "thank you" to all the editors who help make this WikiProject what it is; no edit goes unnoticed.
Priority Articles
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The number has been kept deliberately low to give us a fighting chance of improving them to at least GA status, also so we can concentrate our efforts on these first.
To bring all other top priority articles (currently 15 with 2 at FA) to at least Good article status
To set up a weekly or monthly selected article improvement drive
To produce a regular news letter for circulation to members
Missing co-ordinates
A recent entry on the project talk page Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Yorkshire#Missing coordinates alerted us to the fact that many of our articles do not display any geographical co-ordinates. Many also do not have infoboxes. As locational infoboxes usually have a field for co-ordinates, it was suggested that members might be able to kill two birds with one stone by adding an appropriate infobox at the same time as co-ordinates.
The infobox page usually includes detailed instructions for its use and many of the fields are not mandatory so are not displayed until information is entered.
The geographical co-ordinates for a location can be found on Google Earth.
Open Google Earth and enter the name of the location in the search box. (Quite often the article name can be copied and pasted directly into the search box but sometimes it is useful to add ,UK to the address.)
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Click on the right one.
Zoom in to check that the correct feature is being displayed on the image. (Sometimes the supposed feature is not at the centre of the page.)
Place the pointer over the location on the screen image and read the geographical co-ordinates from the panel at the bottom of the screen.
Make a note of the co-ordinates.
Open the tab of the article you are editing and add the co-ordinates in the co-ords field.
Once co-ordinates have been added the template {{coord missing}} should be removed from the article.
Please remember...
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Sorry Keith. I was trying to use the {{WPBannerMeta}} for the template, if you don't like the changes simply revert it until something that suits the project can be done. —Borgardetalk02:51, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
Could you tell me what links go to the wrong place as well, so I can see what went wrong, because I see the template working fine. The Meta template supports the use of -importance instead of -priority. The comment info is still there as well, the Meta template uses it placed at the bottom of the template instead of the quality scale line, which is trying to standardise across the templates. —Borgardetalk02:54, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
I added the Great Ayton Shops, Pubs & Restaurants website as I believe it contributes to the knowledge about Great Ayton. The website is NOT a conventional advertising website but largely a collection of photographs about the inside and outside and of the staff of the establishments. There are a few occurences where what might be called advertising appears but this is not very often.
I am the IT Consultant to the Great Ayton Community Archaeological Project whose present 4 year project is to look into the history of Great Ayton. One of the members who looked at my website asked me if I could go back 100 years and make one for 1908.
I am also surprised that you removed the websites. The first one I made about Great Ayton shows in photographs lots of views of Great Ayton as it is now. The second one is aimed to advertise the website and does that by selling the features of Great Ayton: Captain Cook; Roseberry Topping; the river etc.
I also have YOUTUBES under the name GASBAGSMike for Stokesley, Staithes, Robin Hoods Bay, North Yorkshire Moors' Dales, and Roseberry Topping - all these I would think should be added to Wikipedia
Kind Regards
Thanks for the note. I have added the 3 links to the talk page and ask for comments by others. Looks like they fall under the rich media type of information which is not really handled by wiki. I would wait and see if others think it is appropriate to add them back or not. If others feel that they should be reinserted then I will not remove them again, though others may do so. If they are reinserted then I think that the caption against the links may need clarifying so that people know that the links are rich media type sites. Keith D (talk) 12:06, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
References format
If you are interested in the format of Reference sections, I have been thinking about the format on the "Philip Larkin" page. I asked on the Shakespeare page, because several editors working on the "Philip Larkin" page have been looking to the Shakespeare page, an FA, as an example of excellence. Snowman (talk) 21:09, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
yes, I think that is the best system, but it take more work to set up. The "William Welberforce" page is set out very well. Snowman (talk) 22:30, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
Hi, similar to the request made for Val Gardena, can you provide an opinion for this page request? I'm familiar and have visited this town a few times, and even the local inhabitants use "Ortisei" for basic promotion in English. Icsunonove (talk) 22:39, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
I am really neutral as I have no knowledge of the area, I moved the other article as the discussion was pointing in that direction. I think that on the face of it a move would be appropriate but see what happens when others comment. Keith D (talk) 22:50, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
Well, Septentrionalis made a valid argument, I suppose. Though, if he doesn't like the Google search results, I'd rather he try to improve on them, rather than just say, "wait and see". Another user brings in a lot of personal passion against imperialism, etc. :-) This doesn't help us use on here what is common English usage. Sometimes the whole discussions here about names in this region give me a big headache with all the chest thumping. Anyway, if you can help shore up the usage results, that would be enough of a great help. Icsunonove (talk) 02:53, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
A quick question. I'm just curious how one manages to do what you did from that site. How does one go about transferring that image to Commons exactly? (I have another photo I'm interested in.) Again, many thanks!Regards,MarmadukePercy (talk) 23:41, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
A bit difficult to explain but here goes.
Locate the image required, I tend to use the OS reference from streetmap to get list of images on Geograph.
Click on image to get it enlarged view
Right-click of mouse and select save-as to save it to your PC
From the page extract the information for the template on commons
Image number
Photographer
Date taken
I normally assemble the template in notepad and paste it into the image box on commons
I transferred my first geograph photo to Commons a couple of days ago, Geograph now provide "interested in re-using this image?" which links to jump snippets for Wikipedia, which can then be directly entered in the "already have Information box contents?" link. By the way, thanks for the help with the Pickle Bridge Line. Scillystuff (talk) 23:11, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
Yes, I noticed the one-edit only editor there - and I think you might well be right about the sockpuppets. The desperate attention-seeking of a new heading also seemed to give it away somewhat. I wouldn't mind, but it's always the comparison with Manchester that these people moan about, yet in both local authority terms and settlement terms Leeds is larger! I nearly wrote something to that effect, but I thought it would be better to keep quiet. Fingerpuppet (talk) 19:53, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
Hi Keith,
Could I appeal to your better nature and ask for the discussions on the York and Harrogate pages about our sites to be removed as they can only be detremental to our sites and in the end we've worked hard on the sites, and its peoples livelihoods at stake. Whilst we had hoped to be linked from Wikipedia as we felt it would have helped the users of the site, we accept that it would break editorial policy.
WP:YORKS is a leading local British WikiProject in terms of the total number of articles supported (up from 4284 last month to 4532 on November 27th). WP:GM has the lead in FAs at 29 out of a total number of 1746 articles. In the area of GAs, at 24, WP:YORKS also falls behind WP:GM with 31.
As mentioned in the October newsletter, Wikipedia DVD Version 0.7, which aims to be a collection of around 30,000 articles taken from the English version of Wikipedia needed work to prepare 43 of the project's articles for the DVD.
The process of producing the list of articles for the DVD is now completed and thanks are due to the many members who made a contribution to the effort. The list of selected Yorkshire articles can be seen here.
The selection was done using a scoring system depending on the project's assessment, the number of incoming links to the article, the number of interwiki links the article had and the number of times the article had been viewed.
Since the last newsletter Northallerton has also been selected to go onto the DVD having recently achieved GA status.
Thanks
Thanks for all those who have been adding co-ordinate information to articles as a result of last month's newsletter. The major impact has been on the railway station articles, including disused ones, but other location articles have also been tackled. This effort means that the articles can be accessed directly from external sources such as Google maps and gives them a much higher profile.
There has again been a number of suggestions on the ToDo list at Yorkshire Portal and this has been kept up to date.
The football and rugby editors have continued keeping abreast of most, if not all, of the top clubs.
WikiProkject Yorkshire editors have been busy on vandal patrol at watchlist. Thanks.
A big "thank you" to all the editors who help make this WikiProject what it is; no edit goes unnoticed.
Priority Articles
The top priority articles that have been identified to date are as follows -
The number has been kept deliberately low to give us a fighting chance of improving them to at least GA status, also so we can concentrate our efforts on these first.
To bring all other top priority articles (currently 15 with 2 at FA) to at least Good article status
To set up a weekly or monthly selected article improvement drive
To produce a regular news letter for circulation to members
Co-ordinates
Just to let you know that a bot is currently sub-dividing the articles with missing co-ordinate data into sub-categories for ease of use. You can now find the articles by looking at the categories for each area as — East, North, South and West. From the discussions it looks like only the co-ordinates in the title area are being used by external sites so articles with multiple co-ordinates are not being handled correctly as yet.
Happy Christmas
Just to say thanks for all the effort put in by members on articles covering the Yorkshire area and to wish everyone a happy Christmas. It is time to take a break and to spend some time with family and friends. May be even to indulge yourself in the food and drink that abounds at this time of year or even make that occasional visit to a church. What ever you do over the festive season enjoy it and see you next year.
Though if you are at a loose end then many of you will be getting some new toys to play with which can be used to enhance wiki articles. Those new digital cameras can be used to get photographs for some of the articles which are currently without and for which the Geograph site has nothing suitable. May be it is a new PC that you just need to play with then spend some time checking out the watchlist for vandalism which tends to go unnoticed when there are fewer regular editors around. It may even be a book which can be used to add references to an article. May be you want to do something different then try creating spoken articles see the Spoken article project.
The project is now subscribed to a clean-up listing which lists articles tagged with various clean-up tags that need attention. The listing is refreshed by a bot on a regular basis.
Monitor Use the watchlist to keep an eye on changes to the project's articles so that vandalism and spamming can be removed as quickly as possible.
Infoboxes Many of our articles would benefit from the addition of an appropriate infobox.
The new C-Class represents articles that are beyond the basic Start-Class, but which need additional references or cleanup to meet the standards for B-Class.
The criteria for B-Class have been tightened up with the addition of a rubric, and are now more in line with the stricter standards already used at some projects.
A-Class article reviews will now need more than one person, as described here.
References Please remember that the list of stubs needing expansion is always in need of attention. Please take a look and see if you can help. One small edit, such as adding a reference section and reference, to an article each session would make a big difference.
Moves Please be careful when performing articles moves and ensure that you also move all the talk sub-pages and update any image fair use rational. Otherwise the archives, to-do lists, assessment comments and GA reviews get lost and the image may be deleted as it has an incorrect FUR.
Hi there, I’m researching an article about Wikipedia, and its editors. I wonder if you I could talk to you about Wikipedia, and how you use it, for a magazine about not-for-profit organisations. If you could spare some time and wouldn’t mind answering some questions by email or phone, please contact me on Bennett.d@hotmail.co.uk, or leave a message here or on my talk page.
Many thanks,
Hello Keith, i see that your are aware of the editing row that is going on at George Michael's article over the mention of his Jewish backround on his mother side dispite it has been edited with a reliable third side source.
There are two users called "Ckatz" and "Marc Harris" that will just delete those editings despite anything, and without even discussing it on the discussion page.Was wondering if i could ask you what to do about it. Thanks.
I was aware of it after warning a user for potentially violating on the three revert rule. As Ckatz is an admin they should know the correct way of dealing with disputes. If you cannot reach agreement on the talk page of the article then you could try for a wider audience with a request for comment to see what other editors think on the situation. Keith D (talk) 18:39, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
But the user that you have warned for the violation is still doing it(user Mark Harris).By the way i havea lready talked this through with an editor that in the past has also had questions about it, but then told me that with a reliable source and accordind to Wikipedia's editing policy i can make that mention in the article, and so i did.
For your contribution to that page in no time flat. Fastest turnaround I've ever seen. Many thanks and regards,MarmadukePercy (talk) 01:51, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
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