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page deleted: David Krikorian

Hello,

Had a few questions for you please regarding the page for political candidate David Krikorian. The candidate received nearly 20% of the vote in a three way race as an Independent and was the highest vote getter of ANY Independent or third-party candidate running for Federal office in the past election.

I realize the page is not about self promotion but the candidate has already declared that he will seek office in 2010 and has kept all website's operational which makes the wiki page not about self promotion as much as about current events. The candidate was endorsed by a major newspaper along with the Cincinnati Police. The candidate was featured on Lou Dobbs and was written about favorable in the national media.

Furthermore, I noticed that the Democratic challenger in this race has not had her page deleted even though she has never held office and has no other reason for being listed other than the fact that she was the Democratic nominee.

We would like to see the page restored so that the pertinent factual information about the OH2 Congressional race can be recorded and so that users will be aware of a candidate who is already in the race for 2010

Thank you,

David

72.49.200.66 (talk) 15:44, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

Hello. If you want Wikipedia to have an article about David Krikorian (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views), I advise you to do the following:

• Familiarise yourself with our inclusion requirements at WP:BIO.
• Collect references, preferably formatted by means of the "{{cite news}}" template, which demonstrate that Krikorian has received significant coverage in reliable secondary sources that are independent of himself.
• Post these references here and I will evaluate whether they are sufficient to overcome the concerns that led to the article's deletion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/David Krikorian.

If you are David Krikorian, or someone affiliated with him, you should not write about this topic; see our conflict of interest guidelines.

With respect to his Democratic challenger, if you think that she fails WP:BIO, you are free to request the deletion of her article as described at WP:AFD. But if she won and is now a member of Congress, she will be deemed notable ex officio.  Sandstein  16:29, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

Hi Sandstein. In regards to the Krikorian article. I should be listed as the orignal author for it. My apologies, I've been a consumer of Wikipedia for sometime and thought that I would try to give back by writing about the candidate that I supported in my district. I did not realize that I was the only one who was watching the page. As you've requested I'm attaching a list of just some of the many publications that have written and reported on Mr. Krikorian. Since the election has passed, it should be noted that he has received 17.8% of the vote, unusually high by many standards for an independent.

Mr. Krikorian is reported on and referenced in several Wikipedia articles: United States House of Representatives elections in Ohio, 2008, United States House of Representatives elections, 2008 - complete list Vic Wulsin, Jean Schmidt

These are sources that meet the definition of credible and notable. Please let me know if this is not the case or does not past the muster. There are also multiple Internet new sites and blogs listing reference to him as well as some Turkish newspapers, though I do not readily have that link. Please note that this office, while a federal office, is for a regional area that covers only Southwest Ohio.

Please let me know if you have any questions.

Politico[1]

Lou Dobbs[2]

Politicker Ohio[3]

WLWT Channel 5[4] [5] [6]

WCPO Channel 9 [7]

Dayton Daily [8] [9] [10]

Cincinnati Enquirer [11]

Portsmouth Daily Times [12]

Georgetown News Democrat[13] [14] [15] [16] [17] [18] [19] [20] [21]

Ripley Bee[22]

The People's Defender [23] [24] [25] [26]

Waverly News Watchman[27] [28]

Clermont Sun [29] [30] [31]

Ryan 08:33, 26 November 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ryan8403 (talk • contribs)

Okay, these references should be enough, collectively, to provide notability. Now, you should post a deletion review request in which you link to this discussion (User talk:Sandstein#page deleted: David Krikorian) and ask that the article be restored in view of the notability established through these references. You could also simply rewrite the article, but then, somebody might just delete it again.  Sandstein  23:39, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

page deleted: Saami Shaibani

Hello, I had a few questions on the Saami Shaibani page. It went through some major changes and I think it is getting close. Some of the comments were made at an early stage, I didn't get much feedback after the major edits. I really don't see how it is soapboxing, if anything it reads negative. Can you give me some advice on how it is soapboxing? Also, at the end of the discussion it was agreed that Shaibani was notable. The article even got a weak keep vote. I believe the article is neutral now after some edits. Any corrections or advice you can give me would be great and appreciated. I have started the test version of the article on my talk page, and there is a place there for comments. jvfulcher (talk) —Preceding undated comment was added at 22:07, 27 November 2008 (UTC).

Well, we have to take into account all of the discussion, not just the final comment - which was, at any rate, expressed as weak. The soapboxing problem is caused by the article being nearly exclusively focused on the man's trial work, to the point of reproducing 26 pages (!) of a court document. This leaves the impression that the article is intended to further some purpose, either in support or against Shaibani or a party in a trial he may be involved in. That's not what we are here for.  Sandstein  23:20, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

Okay, I understand having all 26 pages in the article may be too much, but an external link or reference would (I think) be needed. In a previous version I had a patent and many, many publications of his, and I thought that was the reason for soapboxing? His trial work is what makes the case for his notablity. In particular the Peterson, O'Brien, Aesoph, and Plude trial. All four have been or are being appealed due to his testimony. The Peterson trial was also made into a movie, "The Staircase Murders (2007)" starring Kevin Pollak. The thing that makes Shaibani interesting is that it is rare for an expert witness to be accused of perjury, especially in a trial like Peterson. If you google "Saami Shaibani" you get about 774 hits, the comments on the AfD page agreed near the end his notablity has been established. If you read the article now, I think it only presents facts from the trials. Thanks again for your help on this, it is my first article and much more difficult than I imagined. Your advice has been very helpful. jvfulcher (talk) —Preceding undated comment was added at 01:35, 28 November 2008 (UTC).

The matter of the subject's notability has been discussed in the AfD, and this is not the place to re-open that discussion. Sorry. But see my advice below.  Sandstein  17:43, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

Is there anyway for me to post this article somewhere and get help on it before it goes live? Is the sandbox the place for that? I would like to get comments from other users, so I don't use too much of your time. Thanks again. jvfulcher (talk) —Preceding undated comment was added at 01:39, 28 November 2008 (UTC).

Sandstein, fyi jvfulcher has now recreated this article on his own talk page. Nomoskedasticity (talk) 08:58, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

Your talk page is for others to communicate with you, not for drafting articles. I've moved the content to a page in your user space, User:jvfulcher/Saami Shaibani. If you think the rewritten article has improved to the point that the AfD's concerns are addressed, I recommend asking editors on WP:DRAW for feedback.  Sandstein  17:43, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

Good deal, thanks for the help. jvfulcher (talk) —Preceding undated comment was added at 21:46, 28 November 2008 (UTC).

ASTROTHEOLOGY

why was this topic deleted from wikipedia??

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_9ZyddjaM4 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.70.10.161 (talk) 23:10, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

Please provide a link to the article at issue, as explained in the box at the top of this page.  Sandstein  23:21, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

British Malays

Hi. Thanks for closing Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/British Malays. However, if you read the discussion there you'll notice that much of it focused on whether Malays and Malaysians are the same. I'm not sure that a redirect to Malaysian British is the appropriate decision. Cordless Larry (talk) 20:01, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

It appears to me that such a distinction, if there is one, can be made in the target article. But you're free to change the redirect target, of course, if there's consensus for such a change.  Sandstein  20:26, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

OK, I understand. I think it can be left as it is. Cordless Larry (talk) 22:32, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

Today's Pioneer Courthouse Square sock

This guy: [32] Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} 14:46, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

Never mind, Philknight took care of it. Potrid (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · nuke contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log). But can something be done to stop this guy? Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} 14:51, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

WP:RBI, possibly asking a checkuser for a rangeblock if it gets too bad. Sorry, I don't think that we can do much more.  Sandstein  16:12, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

The "ignore" part doesn't work too well, as he keeps turning up. However, Philknight semi-protected the page until March 1, which ought to choke that guy off for awhile. Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} 16:14, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

Deletion review for David_Krikorian

An editor has asked for a deletion review of David_Krikorian. Since you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedy-deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. ryan8403 (talk) 23:23, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

DYK for Tobacco smoke enema

On 30 November, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Tobacco smoke enema, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

BorgQueen (talk) 00:32, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

Sources

• Sandeep Unnikrishnan (AfD discussion)

After much prodding and pushing, people have finally started citing sources. Please revisit the discussion and read and evaluate the sources. Show the single-purpose accounts and novice editors how established Wikipedia editors will have a proper AFD discussion, focussed upon looking for, citing, reading, and evaluating sources. You'll have to navigate a lot of irrelevant chatter to find the citations, and the actual discussions thereof, but I've tried to make them prominent. Uncle G (talk) 00:49, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

Airwolfe31

I gave the user a deal. I would like you to comment please and see what you think of it. I however do not think he is being honest about the sockpuppets because of evidence presented here. Specifically the edits from the user account and IPs are all to Airwolfe's userspace..and some other random things.Rgoodermote  01:27, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

Kinda forum shopping. But as you were the one who kicked sense back into my mind. I would like to request that you place the Wikibreak code and set it for 1 month. There is a personal story as to why I should not do this myself. I would like to apologize for my behavior. In the last month a lot has happened and it has been really stressful for me and I haven't been able to keep my personal life out of my life online and the stress has started to make me paranoid and just unwilling or unable to to tolerate things and that results in my hyperviglants and my need to be authorative..because well the stress stems from an authority who should not be an authority..well anyways I would rather not tell you the personal reason behind why I should not add the code myself..but please I would love for you or another admin to add for me and put it for 1 month. Thank you, happy editing and again. I'm sorry for how I have been acting the last few days. Rgoodermote  20:21, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

Please close discussions properly

You redirected Operation Black Tornado while there was a discussion about the article going on. If you redirected the article unilaterally while ignoring the ongoing discussion you violated a whole bunch of WP policies and you should self-revert. If you redirected the article based on the consensus at the discussion then please close the discussion. Thanks, --brewcrewer (yada, yada) 14:03, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

Which discussion? The talk page was empty.  Sandstein  14:11, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

The merge template at the article linked to Talk:November 2008 Mumbai attacks#Merger proposal. --brewcrewer (yada, yada) 14:20, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

Well, per WP:MM, "Merging is a normal editing action, something any editor can do, and as such does not need to be proposed and processed." I'll neither close the discussion nor revert myself. The discussion may well continue; if it decides against a merger (which seems unlikely now), the redirect may be reverted.  Sandstein  14:38, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

Further in the foregoing link you would come across the following:

“ If the merger is controversial, however, you may find your merger reverted, and as with all other edits, edit wars should be avoided. If you are uncertain of the merger's appropriateness, or believe it might be controversial, or your merge ends up reverted, you can propose it on either or both of the affected pages. ”

(emphasis added). I have probably made over a hundred redirects here on WP, but I knew that this is a controversial redirect so, per the WP:MM guideline, I initiated a discussion on the topic. An afd discussion should last 5 days unless WP:SNOW applies. This is clearly not a SNOW. So the discussion should go on before any action is taken. --brewcrewer (yada, yada) 16:34, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

DYK for Local mail and rayon stamps of Switzerland

On 30 November, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Local mail and rayon stamps of Switzerland, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

BorgQueen (talk) 19:07, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

Congrats on the article. An anonymous user had deleted major portions of it, but I reverted it. Chris (talk) 20:09, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

Thanks!  Sandstein  22:10, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

User:Bill Chadwell

Behavioral and CheckUser evidence indicate that he is evading the ban of ClarkLewis (talk · contribs · logs · block log). I have asked two other CUs to review my conclusions. Jayjg ^(talk) 21:11, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

OK, thanks!  Sandstein  22:10, 30 November 2008 (UTC)

death anxiety deletion

Why did you delete the page for death anxiety? Or were you the one that created it???

Please provide a link to the article at issue, as explained in the box at the top of this page.  Sandstein  06:38, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

Technical Problem

Hey there, I would like to divert your attention to one article "Shahid Masood", this article is not showing some of the sections which are present in the editing tab but not shown in the normal preview of the article. Plz have a look at this article and help correct it if you can. Regards.BurhanAhmed (talk • contribs) 08:36, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

Sorry, I can't reproduce the problem that you describe. You may be able to find more competent technical help at WP:VPT.  Sandstein  10:23, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

DYK for Ueli Maurer

On 2 December, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Ueli Maurer, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

BorgQueen (talk) 01:46, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

Rename

user rename: The Mary Pearl Willis Foundation to Dembravesfan. How long does it take for the above to occur? I believe all requests have been sent, but Dembravesfans user name has not been activated. Thanks.

I have contacted the renaming bureaucrat.  Sandstein  06:53, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

Thank youThe Mary Pearl Willis Foundation (talk) 07:01, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for helping. How do I retrieve previous articles created under user name The Mary Pearl Willis Foundation?Dembravesfans 04:56, 4 December 2008 (UTC)