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This article was nominated for deletion on 24 October 2007. The result of the discussion was Keep.

It became common due to text messaging? This kind of typing has been common for years — it was commonplace when I first visited chat rooms in 1997 or so, and was undoubtedly popular before that. -Branddobbe 08:50, Nov 20, 2004 (UTC)

True enough. I have updated to reflect this. Guinness 16:05, 10 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Actually it originated way before chat rooms. It has been used at least as far back as the 70s and 80s by the deaf community using TTD and TTY devices to chat. Neil Weicher 01:09, 20 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

IMO the telegraphists were probably the first to use them. JohnnyBatina 17:30, 13 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

abbreviations

I think the abbreviations list is probably going to get a bit big, and also there seem to be a lot of initialisms added. I think this probably needs to be split into distinct initialisms (assuming there isn't another list of them somewhere in wikipedia), and abbreviations lists.

I agree: the list could be miles longer, and probably ought to be a bit mor thorough for general knowledge. It does seem there are a lot of common abbreviations & initialisms missing as it is.

SMS

I suggest that the title of this article should be "SMS language", or something similar... since the word "texting" (as a verb) is itself slang. The "Texting language" title could be a redirect. Any thoughts? EuroSong ^talk 10:27, 11 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Since there were no objections in two weeks, I went ahead with it :) EuroSong ^talk 22:17, 27 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Question

Was this language primarily influenced by internet chat (in chatrooms and in games) and internet messageboards, or did text messaging influence these? The article says very little about the relationship between SMS language and other similar forms of language. The language has also creeped into emails, which are treated like text messages by many. Rintrah 13:07, 24 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm. What relevance is the link to Eats Shoots and Leaves? There are many books on grammar which denounce SMS language - why choose this one? Rintrah 13:12, 24 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Example

A text message of Shane Warne would serve as a good example of this language! Rintrah 08:54, 12 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Article length

This article is way, way too long; mostly because of the extroadinary length of the sms acronyms. Keep the most notable and relevant ones and move the rest to another article, like "List of SMS acronyms". People will be more pleased with the article if it is shorter. I have War and Peace in my bookcase so I don't seek out lengthy texts for the sake of it. Rintrah 07:11, 18 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I agree. A List of SMS acronyms article would be more suitable. Why have we got an Abbreviation section and then a More Abbreviations section? MortimerCat 19:12, 30 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I shall fix it now. Rintrah 15:35, 6 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

A new article List of SMS abbreviations has been created, but immediately tagged with a delete flag. Could anyone with an opinion join in the discussion there. MortimerCat 16:35, 6 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Article Clean-up

I have cleaned up the article quite a lot and it looks considerably better than when I first encountered it. I would still like some assistance, though:

There are no references in the introduction.
There are no references in the txt devices and abbreviations sections (sources shouldn't be difficult to find.)
There should be ten or so examples in the Abbreviations section (they can be taken from the main article.)

If someone addresses these concerns, the article might attain Good Article status.

I am going to join up the cleaning up process of this article since I think this article is important. I think the abbreviations should talk about ways which SMS language were derived/made from Standard English, instead of giving a comprehenisve list of abbreviations, which should be done in another article such as list of SMS language or just text language.--Ingramhk (talk) 13:02, 20 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

References

Can someone find proper references for this article? Rintrah 14:40, 13 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Popular in homosexual circles of glasgow is the use of THX which is a reference to thanks x. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jdm1873 (talk • contribs) 10:44, 9 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Rename?

I'm not sure what to move this to, but "SMS language" is a terrible name. Since many (including myself) oppose having separate articles for AOL speak and the other variants, I think this article should include those too. Internet slang is alright, but too broad in the sense that there's Leet and computer jargon and too narrow in the sense it only deals with Internet-based slang, excluding mobile phone texting. Since we have a limited amount of articles on these types of slang, I think grouping them by likeness, rather than the platform they're used on (mobile phones vs. Internet), is the most logical method. Not to mention, I have never heard of the phrase "SMS language" before. Currently, there's a lot of overlap between this article and Internet slang, because this article excludes the language's origin and current use on other platforms merely because of it's title.

So anyone know what to name this? Rocket000 08:37, 5 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

How about something along the likes of "Technology Shorthand". I prefer the use of the word "shorthand" to "slang", as it is a form of shorthand.Hengineer (talk) 14:12, 30 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

But is SMS language really the same thing as internet slang? SMS language specifically evolved due to there being limited space on a small mobile phone screen, and before predictive text was introduced, typing in words was very time-consuming. Therefore the practice of cutting out vowels, for example, came about. On the other hand, internet slang did not evolve due to lack of space - but has its own set of words. Like "brb", to mean "be right back", used in instant messaging. These internet abbreviations evolved not because of lack of space, but because of the frequency of commonly-typed messages. You don't see this on a mobile phone. Therefore I dispute the assertion that they're the same thing. EuroSong ^talk 18:37, 20 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Separate Lists?

Some of these abbreviations do sound odd. Maybe we should separate them into popular and non-popular, cuz some of these I've never really heard of. :-\ --ZSoraz (talk) 16:26, 2 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Change In English Vocabulaey Through SMS Language

My name is Muhammed Fahad and I am the student of Literature at National University Of Modern Languages.As a student of Literature my subjects of interest are Linguistics and Language.I am working on SMS Language and if I narrow my topic down then probibly it will lead you a hypothesis "Change In English Vocabulaey Through SMS Language".to support my rationle I would l to say that language is a living behaviour of living people of that specific time,and it keeps on changing with of time.There are so many expression which we are using in our daily routine were might be not understandable ten or twenty years before.

                                                           Muhammad Fahad.
                                                           National University Of Modern
                                                           Languages.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 137.101.130.85 (talk) 14:12, 18 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]