Talk:Beyoncé

Third Album

Can I ask why does the page about the next album keep getting deleted, after all it has been announced officially and was cited?? Wneedham02 (talk) 18:48, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

Just came across some info at work that her next album will be simply named "Beyonce..." wether its true we'll have to wait and see. Wneedham02 (talk) 14:29, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

Should the title of the page be changed in accordance to her name change? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.239.179.233 (talk) 22:51, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

No, she's only using "Sasha Fierce" as an alter ego/character and, so far, only for one album. Jack White did something similar when he renamed himself "Three Quid" for a tour. The re-direct and AKA are sufficient for now. Ariadne55 (talk) 16:18, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

Archive this page

Someone should archive this page because it is getting to be ridiculously and annoyingly long. --Crackthewhip775 (talk) 22:21, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

Done. Carl.bunderson (talk) 02:41, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

THE MAIN ARTICLE IS ALSO WAY TOO LONG! Also, a little fawning and boring. IMHOPedEye1 (talk) 02:47, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

She has not sold over 20 million albums! <- Yes she has. Dangerously In Love sold 14.3 Million units, and B'day has sold almost 6 million albums. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.146.235.207 (talk) 12:30, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

Beyonce's Untitled Third Album

It's going to be called either "Empowerment" or "Virtuoso Intellect". —Preceding unsigned comment added by JUSTiNCR3DiBL3 (talk • contribs) 01:09, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

It needs to be deleted again, redirected back to the Beyonce page. They need to wait until they at least have a title or complete tracklisting. There is no need to make an acception for her just because she's a good singer. Readyseason (talk) 20:14, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

"Knowles is expected to perform a world exclusive of the first single of her forthcoming album at the MTV Europe Music Awards 2008 in Liverpool, England."

Is this supposed to mean that the single won't be released until then? Because 1) the singles will be released Oct. 14th, and 2) the awards ceremony is only 12 days before the album is to be released. This statement is a little confusing. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.87.160.2 (talk) 05:33, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

her RECORD sales as a solo act.

she has absolutely not sold only 15million, both singles and album, that's crazy

she has sold 6million on b'day and 11 million on DIL, and the singles are crazy she has sold 6million with crazy in love, 3 million check on it, 5 million on irreplaceable and MORE!

it's impossible she has sold only 15million singles and album, please change it, the safest would be 30million!!!, that is true! ya'll know that!!! it's on AMA —Preceding unsigned comment added by Xlaws001 (talk • contribs) 04:00, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

I agree with you, I heard she had sold at least 26 million before her last tour and then sales always go up during and after tours. Wneedham02 (talk) 22:03, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

if you say record it's not clear... you have to say that you're talking about albums and singles! --93.146.248.243 (talk) 12:34, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

yah maybe it's unclear if i say reacord, but it's unfair to say she has sold 15million ALBUMS and SINGLES? are you crazy? she has sold more than 18m albums alon, plus her singles sells millions, crazy in love sold 6.5m alone... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Xlaws001 (talk • contribs) 22:35, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

Dangerously in love has only sold 6 million copies as an album, and Crazy In Love has not sold anywhere near 6.5 million copies. It's only been certifield gold in the U.S. matter of fact. PhoenixPrince (talk) 23:45, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

Follow up

According to an article published by The New York Times dated November 20008, Knowles has sold more than 75 million albums worldwide, including releases with Destiny's Child. Link. But according to Billboard magazine and BBC, articles which were published way back 2006 and 2007, respectively, claimed that she has only sold over 50 million album worldwide. I think we should use the newest source? --Efe (talk) 05:48, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

I agree, it's a reliable source that's more up-to-date. DiverseMentality 23:27, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

(NEW YORK TIMES IS FULL OF SH*T). They also claimed that B-day went 5x Platinum and remember what they did to Obama (which is a different story)

Anyway, Destiny CHILD has only sold 50 freaking records W.W. (including ALBUMS AND SINGLES) according to the RIAA, MEDIA TRAFFIC, and BILLBOARD.

DIL has sold 8 million copies and BDAY has sold 6. BEYONCE has also sold around 15 million singles and that's about it.

LET ME REPEAT, NONE OF THAT EQUALS 120 MILLION RECORDS. Obviously, her label is having her sales fabricated which is sad and pathetic. I saw the behind the scenes footage at the WMA and her father talked about how he helped plan the introduction. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Beyoncefan504 (talk • contribs) 05:50, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

according to WMA 2008 beyonce has sold more than 120million records worldwide.. is World Music Awards. The World Music Awards (founded in 1989) is an international awards show that annually honors recording artists based on their worldwide sales figures, which are provided by the International Federation of the Phonographic Industry (IFPI). Tell me shouldn't it be posted in here.. I mean are we saying that WMA is lying? after all the awards?...

Hah! Are you kidding?? 120 millions, do you know how many records that is?? She couldn't be farther away from that figure. And the WMA are the silliest award show ever and the most unreliable at that. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.2.246.174 (talk) 07:48, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

Now Elle magazine says it's 100 million. Anyone have an idea which one is correct? DiverseMentality 03:39, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

Sales

I've redone the sales portion. Gotham magazine is a regional magazine and it is not as reliable as Billboard (who specializes in tracking record sales and is the authority in the U.S. on such matters) or the BBC. PhoenixPrince (talk) 23:51, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

Those sources are well over three years old. Who's to say they're not out of date? DiverseMentality 05:29, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

Three years does not make albums sales jumpe from 50 million to 100 million. ANd there will be a third source added very soon corroborating the same information. PhoenixPrince (talk) 11:33, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

what was meant by 50 million are albums, SONY BMG confirmed that DC3 has sold more than 50 million ALBUMS!! HAVEN'T you heard about their single sales?.. and the fact that WMA won't give best-selling titles to those who haven't sold more than 100m records.. and IN "AMERICAN MUSIC AWARDS" also it was said there, how can you(i don't even know who you are) tell that these PEOPLE/INSTITUTIONS are lying? LOL AMA is like grammys they can't sacrifice their credibility just 4 beyonce!, talk straight, and why did you put only 50 million with DC3? did you forget she has a solo career? I'll change it again to 100m and 25m, WMA,AMA and gotham magazine are enough as sources! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Xlaws001 (talk • contribs) 20:16, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

It includes single sales and album sales, and it also includes solo sales too, review the sources. WMA is not and has never been a reliable source for record sales because they don't track don't track sales. More sources approximate the number around 50 million, than any other number. BTW AMA is not like the Grammy's and I don't recall them saying that ever, which is irrelevant unless you can provide a published source for it. SO why don't you leave it as is instead of making unsupported claims and using unreliable sources. PhoenixPrince (talk) 03:27, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

Here is a fourth reliable source that places they're sales around 50 million. [1] PhoenixPrince (talk) 04:02, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

you didn't hear AMA say that? LOL now i know, your late in terms of hollywood news, it was in AMA 2007 when she was given the international artist award! she has sold 130 million records acc. to them! LOL! if WMA is no reliable then so you are, you don't even watch TV i guess hahaha —Preceding unsigned comment added by Xlaws001 (talk • contribs) 00:03, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

According to her own record company she hasn't. They would know better then anyway so in other words...trumped!BTW I only watch the important awards shows, like the Grammy's and I don't stan 4 Beyonce. PhoenixPrince (talk) 00:05, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

RACISM

You're section on the racism and sexism towards Beyonce does not cite a reliable source. Your source cited as 138 on the page, only links to an article written on an the internet by a journalist, giving their personal opinion. There are many many blogs written on the internet about light-skinned girls and Beyonce is just one of them. I feel this is some kind of ploy for sympathy??? I would hardly say that article is a reliable source and it will be interesting to see what your response to that is.Ms Scarlett Dracula (talk) 20:43, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

I'd say it gets just about the play it deserves. The topic gets about four lines in the article, and presents criticism that she does actually get: that she trades excessively on her looks, and the accusations of photo retouching and makeup to lighten her skin. If it went on for paragraphs, it would be excessive, but to not mention the criticism would go too far the other way.—Kww(talk) 20:48, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

Uhm. Whats up with the sources?

Ok so the voice section cites some COVE magazine thing and I followed the link but it's only some SMH.com.au article about similarities between Beyonce and J-Lo and Beyonce's nonconformity with fame. I think it's supposed to be source 118, not 117. I guess that's easy to correct but I suspect a LOT more sources are being used incorrectly in this article. In the Destiny Fulfilled section there's a claim that "Check On It" is the first song from a soundtrack to hit number one on the Billboard Hot 100. The source it cites (and the sources around it on the source list) only calls the song a "#1". AND If you look at the Billboard Hot 100, you'll see that the "Lady Marmalade" cover by Christina Aguilera, Pink, Mya and Lil' Kim from the Moulin Rouge soundtrack topped the chart for five weeks just like "Check On It" (and actually sold more copies overall). Is anything in this article accurate? Shouldn't the hardcore fans be looking into this? Gosh! =P --Plavalagunanbanshee (talk) 21:32, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

Don't worry. We will be checking them once we got vacant time. --Efe (talk) 23:30, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

I Am... Sasha Fierce

Can someone put some more info on I Am... Sasha Fierce on the main Beyonce page? It's looking a little empty compared to the other albums. Talk about the two main singles (If I Were A Boy/Single Ladies) chart positions etc.

Oh-tis-daveo (talk) 02:17, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Worth Mentioning?

Jay-Z and Beyonce made $162 million from June 1, 2007 and June 1, 2008. They currently own the top spot with $77 million ahead of the second placers Will Smith and Jada Pinkett Smith. [2] [3][4][5][6] Happy Editing! (talk) 14:24, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

NEW RECORD SALES

according to WMA 2008 beyonce has sold more than 120million records worldwide.. is World Music Awards. The World Music Awards (founded in 1989) is an international awards show that annually honors recording artists based on their worldwide sales figures, which are provided by the International Federation of the Phonographic Industry (IFPI). Tell me shouldn't it be posted in here.. I mean are we saying that WMA is lying? after all the awards?... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Trd3iiZfHHU

Sweet heart, the WMA doesn't track actually sales (for the majority) and that was the same introduction that the AMA's gave Beyonce (The AMA'S is produced by SONY by the way).

In 2004, it was a known fact that DC has only sold around around 30 million albums and around 20 million singles.

Beyonce has only sold around 30 million records.

DC FIRST ALBUM

1.5-2million

SECOND ALBUM

12-13 million

THIRD ALBUM

9 million

4th album

6 million

greatest hits 2-3 million

EQUALS under 35 million

Protect this page

Vandalism has been kind of prevalent on this page lately, should we consider protecting it? --Crackthewhip775 (talk) 02:23, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

Can't hurt. Carl.bunderson (talk) 08:41, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

12 Songwriting and Producing

There should be an update in the "Songwriting and Producing" section on Beyonce. With "Single Ladies (Put A Ring On It)" advancing to No. 1 on the HOT 100 (BILLBOARD), Beyonce Knowles has now moved past Diane Warren (who has nine No. 1s to her songwriting credit). Beyonce and Madonna are now tied in second place among female songwriters in this category. Madonna has received songwriting credit for ten of her twelve No. 1s. Beyonce has contributed lyrics to all of Destiny's Child's four No. 1s, along with the five No. 1s outside the group. In addition to this, D. Child's tune "Soldier" was sampled on the No. 1 song "Grillz" by Nelly, Paul Wall, Ali & Gipp. So that's ten total for Beyonce. Mariah Carey is in first place among female songwriters, having contributed lyrics to all of her No. 1s except her remake of the Jackson 5's "I'll Be There." —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.207.255.32 (talk) 08:32, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

This might appear an original research. Hopefully Billboard will write about it, usually in the column ask billboard and chart beat. Hopefully. --Efe (talk) 08:35, 6 December 2008 (UTC)