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*'''Delete''' Aren't sources required to prove that those things have actually been done? [[User:ILovePlankton|ILovePlankton]] ([[User talk:ILovePlankton|talk]]) 05:27, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
*'''Delete''' Aren't sources required to prove that those things have actually been done? [[User:ILovePlankton|ILovePlankton]] ([[User talk:ILovePlankton|talk]]) 05:27, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
:No. And there are sources to prove them, or turn on your TV. The problem is that ''most'' of the sources are Christian organizations, which makes it worthy of a [[Wikipedia:Template messages|template message]], but not [[Wikipedia:Deletionism|deletion]]. -- '''[[User:American Eagle|<font color="blue">'''American Eagle'''</font>]] ([[User talk:American Eagle|<font color="blue">talk</font>]])''' 05:34, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
:No. And there are sources to prove them, or turn on your TV. The problem is that ''most'' of the sources are Christian organizations, which makes it worthy of a [[Wikipedia:Template messages|template message]], but not [[Wikipedia:Deletionism|deletion]]. -- '''[[User:American Eagle|<font color="blue">'''American Eagle'''</font>]] ([[User talk:American Eagle|<font color="blue">talk</font>]])''' 05:34, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
::to each his own. [[User:ILovePlankton|ILovePlankton]] ([[User talk:ILovePlankton|talk]]) 06:00, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

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No indication that this article meets WP:NOTE or WP:BIO. Of the 17 references at time of nomination, 16 are clearly not independent (3 are to the agency representing Friel, 3 are to pieces written by Friel himself and 10 to mentions by organisations for whom Friel has performed/spoken/written) and 1 is to a blog entry (unreliable and unacceptable per WP:BLP) I am also nominating related article Wretched with Todd Friel for deletion. HrafnTalkStalk 05:16, 15 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep - as sources don't establish notability, facts do: 1500 stage performances, radio host of several broadcasts (including nationally), evangelist, writer for Christian Chronicle and Christian Worldview Network, TV host for 30+ million homes nationally, a writer, and a few other things - all of which establish notability. Sources don't establish it, being notable does. Sources are to verify them. -- American Eagle (talk) 05:26, 15 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete Aren't sources required to prove that those things have actually been done? ILovePlankton (talk) 05:27, 15 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
No. And there are sources to prove them, or turn on your TV. The problem is that most of the sources are Christian organizations, which makes it worthy of a template message, but not deletion. -- American Eagle (talk) 05:34, 15 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
to each his own. ILovePlankton (talk) 06:00, 15 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]