Talk:Quesadilla

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   * (cur) (last) . . 13:41, 13 Nov 2002 . . Grimm Ripper (Removed recipie)
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   * (cur) (last) . . 11:37, 19 Sep 2002 . . Koyaanis Qatsi
   * (cur) (last) . . 11:36, 19 Sep 2002 . . Vicki Rosenzweig (copyedit; sometimes a pair of tortillas)
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The first paragraph totally doesn't make sense when it says that they don't usually have cheese when the meaning of the word in spanish has the word "cheese" in it. Anyone care to elaborate

~Ann C Panse

I don't know if it's true or not about Mexico City quesadillas, but I'd note that Bombay duck is fish, Colonial Goose is lamb, Welsh rabbit is grilled cheese, Bear claws are pastry, and Rocky Mountain oysters sure ain't oysters, so the name isn't always a good guideline. Ziggurat 03:39, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

Quesadilla in Mexico refers to a type of masa preparation, where raw masa is folded and sealed over the ingredients in the manner of a pasty or empanada. Probably got the name because cheese IS a typical ingredient, the sealing keeps the cheese from running out. Most of this article describes cheese tacos, not quesadillas. Tubezone 03:32, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

Pronounciation

The trivia mentions an alternative pronounciation but there is no correct phonetic pronounciation to compare it to. Could someone add this in.--Opark 77 07:47, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

I think the correct pronunciation should be something like: "keh-sah-Dee-yah"... —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 148.225.105.5 (talk) 15:28, 31 January 2007 (UTC).

"Dilla"

Queso means cheese, but where does "dilla" come from. Its not "cheese day" cause dilla isn't even close to "dio". *My* guess is that it was an amalgom between "queso" and "tortilla" - "queso-tortilla" to "queso-tilla" to the easier to say, "quesadilla". I can't find any sources to confirm or condemn my speculation tho. Fresheneesz 02:04, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

illa or illo are dimunitive suffixes in Spanish. The word is not a portmanteau. Tubezone 03:04, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

Are you sure about that? I'm very curious how this word came about. But I can definately see someone calling it a "little cheese" and putting the 'd' in to make it flow better. Fresheneesz 21:39, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

Pretty darn sure: queso = cheese, quesada = cheesed or cheesy, as in tortilla quesada, (actually I think quesosa would be cheesy) quesadilla = little cheesed. Just like armado and armadillo, although if I think about it, an armadillo should be a blindadillo (blindado means "armored") Tubezone 21:56, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

Tubezone is absolutely right. And "quesada" is actually the word used for "cheesy" in Spanish (although, as Tubezone points out, it literally means "cheesed"). Also, Fresheneesz, while your speculation is certainly appropriate for this page, and contributing to an intelligent discussion is never a bad thing (even if your speculation turns out to be wrong, because how can we reach conclusions if we don't discuss possibilities?), please don't edit articles based on speculation. If you don't know that what you're writing is fact, it's best to leave the article as is until you can verify it. When in doubt, do exactly what you did here: Start a discussion, and hopefully someone can work it out. Thanks. StoneRaven 22:50, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

Spainish (as in Spain) Quesadillas

Anyone know enough about Quesadillas to add a section on what they are in Spain (I was just there and "Quesadilla" seemed to refer to a potato-and-egg-pancake, but I don't know enough about it / don't have any sources to cite)??? 70.23.145.155 21:06, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

Maybe you are thinking of the Spanish tortilla? Azalea pomp 01:10, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

removed aficionados. are there really quesadilla aficionados?

Concerning Adding Content to Quesadilla page

Several of us here on Wikipedia are trying to defend the frivolous reprimanding by the Wikipedia user Delicious Carbuncle. We are trying to add the following information:

References in Media

In the hit movie Napoleon Dynamite, Napoleons Grandmother states that she will be gone to visit some friends, and will not be back until the next day. They are a low on steak, so she has "Lyle" coming over to take care of it. "Well whats there to eat!?" asks Napoleon angrily, "Knock it off Napoleon, make yourself a dang quesadilla!" she retorts. "Fine!" Napoleon grumbles.

References

http://www.hulu.com/watch/9172/napoleon-dynamite-make-yourself-a-dang-quesadilla

We feel that this information complies with Wikipedia's rules for editing, as we have a very reliable reference; that being the original movie.

Please help us in defending the placement of this information on the Wikipedia Quesadilla page.--Tchurch1 (talk) 02:13, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

You guys sure are not helpful, all we wanted to know is if it would be something to put on the Quesadilla page. Another thing, Solicitor is obviously creating multiple accounts, it is too obvious.--Tchurch1 (talk) 02:08, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

Obvious Troll Is Obvious. I look forward to your imminent banning. Solicitor1 23:11, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

Troll, banning, what are talking about??? Just tell me that it is not something that you think would be appropriate on the quesadilla page. I am just looking for opinions.--Tchurch1 (talk) 23:27, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

Please stop using bolding unnecessarily. In case you missed it the first several times, here are the issues with what you are attempting to add to the article: this is trivia that possibly belongs in Napolean Dynamite, but not here; you need to provide a reliable source per WP:BURDEN and WP:RS; and some of what you were previously trying to add counts as original research (see WP:OR). Thanks. Delicious carbuncle (talk) 03:19, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

Sorry, I picked up somewhere that you had to add the three quotes in order to place your comment, I did not know that the quotes were only for bold. Thanks--Tchurch1 (talk) 04:13, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

Agreement

Tchurch1 is totally right. This page needs some references from media etc. That really can help a reader make a real life connection. Way to go tChurch man! Flashpro (talk)

Agreement Number Two

Solicitor1 is totally right. Tchurch1 and Flashpro are on the road to Bantown. Way to go Solicitor1! Solicitor2 00:13, 18 December 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Solicitor1 (talk • contribs)

"Way to go Solicitor1! By Solicitor2", this guy is creating multiple accounts, what a fake! You will get banned for creating multiple accounts. "...On your way to Bantown", this is not a kids website, please get serious.--Tchurch1 (talk) 02:17, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

Behave respectfully

Before I say anything else... the reason the ND quote likely doesn't merit a placement in the article is because quesadillas are largely unrelated to the quote. It's not like nobody had ever heard about them. It's not even one of the fifty most important lines of the movie.

That said, "Obvious Troll Is Obvious. I look forward to your imminent banning." and similar statements are astonishingly inappropriate for an encyclopedia. We rely on assuming good faith here at Wikipedia. And also on the fact that this isn't freaking 4chan where you get "cool points" for biting the newcomers' heads off or whatever. Matt Yeager ♫ (Talk?) 09:01, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

Reality

Flashpro and Tchurch1 are almost certainly socky (and if not, they're definitely meaty). There's assuming good faith, and there's ignoring the patently obvious. There, I gratuitously quoted some Wikipedia policy; do I now get to be part of the royal 'we' that Matt refers to? Both accounts solely exist for the hilariously pointless creation of the Dang caseadilla article (look at their edit history) and they're needlessly bothering Delicious carbuncle, who I feel like standing up for, although I'm sure he doesn't need it. As for my 'astonishingly inappropriate' statements - well Matty, I just looked at your userpage and, I quote: 'I think that it wouldn't kill anyone to have a joke thrown into a long article' - Solicitor1 (talk) 23:19, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

While I appreciate the support, I'm hopeful that Flashpro and Tchurch1 will move on better things now and become the valued editors that we all know they can be. Thanks. Delicious carbuncle (talk) 14:10, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

Come to Your Senses

Solicitor1, I would just like you to know that both Flashpro and I are new to Wikipedia editing, after using it for so many years. We are not "Sock Puppets" and we are not "Meat Puppets" either. We are both just new to Wikipedia editing. We did not know that by asking if something would fit in a certain section of Wikipedia that people would come along and make fun of us. If you still think that we are sock or meat puppets, please appeal to Wikipedia. I will tell you that I know for a fact that your Soliciter2 account is a sock or otherwise meat account, and I really don't think that it is a good thing to create multiple accounts just for the fun of it.

I rather think that some of the users here are not contributing, neither staying neutral, but bringing Wikipedia users down and making fun of them.--Tchurch1 (talk) 01:46, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

Please stop creating new topics for every comment - just reply underneath and indent your comment with a colon. I hope you now agree that your additions to this article aren't appropriate, so let's all just let this drop and move on. Thanks. Delicious carbuncle (talk) 14:10, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

Truth will out.

This season has been heavy on vampire films. ... "Topped with their legendary salsa, their quesadilla is outstanding," Johnson, 56, said.

It is difficult to find time to cook when you are in jail. This Wikipedia page shows you a quick and easy quesadilla recipe you can make in your prison cell. Watch and learn how to make a cheesy quesadilla with an iron. If you do not have an iron you can use a wolf.

Under this wolf there is a quesadilla being made.

In the popular movie film, Napoleon Dynamite, the "liger" is a real animal, created when a male lion mates with a female tiger. It does not, however, have "skills in magic", as Napoleon claims.

Wochende (talk) 15:25, 19 December 2008 (UTC)