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::Well, I guess I'll just have to agree to disagree. I really think that people browsing wikipedia would like to read the poem and not search for it elsewhere. at the very least there should be a prominent link to the wikisources page. also this is offtopic but to be blunt, if wikipedia is not a democracy, who died and made you the king of "The Tyger"? :) (please treat that as a question honestly geared at learning about how wikipedia works! :) --[[User:Leav|Leav]] ([[User talk:Leav|talk]]) 23:44, 21 December 2008 (UTC) |
::Well, I guess I'll just have to agree to disagree. I really think that people browsing wikipedia would like to read the poem and not search for it elsewhere. at the very least there should be a prominent link to the wikisources page. also this is offtopic but to be blunt, if wikipedia is not a democracy, who died and made you the king of "The Tyger"? :) (please treat that as a question honestly geared at learning about how wikipedia works! :) --[[User:Leav|Leav]] ([[User talk:Leav|talk]]) 23:44, 21 December 2008 (UTC) |
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" 'Tiger! Tiger! Burning bright, / in the forests of the night.'
Blake wrote that. Apparently the tiger was on fire. Maybe his tail got struck by lightning or something.
Flammable felines - what a weird subject for poetry." --Calvin, Calvin and Hobbes
- Hmm... I like it ;-) --Ihope127 14:11, 12 July 2005 (UTC)
Blake means the vivid colour of the tiger - not that it is literally on fire!
Maybe its tail got roasted." --Qi Jing
- Why does he rhyme "eye" with "Symmetry" they're kinda pushed to rhyme...
- Back then, "symmetry" would have been pronounced "sim-mit-try," not "sim-mit-tree." Thorns Among Our Leaves 23:02, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
Gay/Gigantism
Industrialization
Blake was one of the most noted gay poets and like them he saw the pastoral country side as idyllic and viewed industrialization as a blight.
The word "gay" (vandalism?) has an interwiki to "Gigantism." I have no idea what this meant to say originally. Thorns Among Our Leaves 23:02, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
If someone knows how to do references, David Erdmann's Prophet Against Empire will corroborate the French Revolution connection. CBR
The Lamb/The Tyger Homogenization
Considering the two poems' connections and similarities, the articles for them ought to be more homogeneous. Especially on whether or not to include a copy of the text in the article. Currently, The Lamb does, and The Tyger does not. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.230.161.164 (talk) 23:34, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
Slough Feg?
They have a song called "Tiger, Tiger!" that has the lines "The stars burn bright/In the forest of night/But what mortal hands and eyes will I see there?"
The last bit is a definite reference, as is the title... but does anyone know what the song has to do with the poem aside from those two references? I'm trying to figure out a connection (huge fan of Slough Feg here) but I can't find it. 98.200.52.17 (talk) 00:34, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
Kraven's Last Hunt
There's a spider-man story called Kraven's Last Hunt where the first and last verse is kind of...covered. Tyger is replaced with spyder. I was wondering why it wasn't linked in the article, this article is linked in Kraven's Last Hunt. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hoopesk2 (talk • contribs) 04:50, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
The Poem
Not including the quote because some other wiki**** decided that poems is within it's scope is silly.
It's like not displaying a picture because wikicommons already has it or an even better example: not displaying a quote because wikiquotes has it.
I don't know how to do this but I'd like to initiate a vote for whether the poem should be included or not.
--Leav (talk) 09:16, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
- Wikipedia is not a democracy. The fact is that "some other wiki****" didn't "decide" that the poem was within it's scope-- wikisource was created by the Wikimedia foundation for exactly this purpose. Sadly, many articles on Blake's poetry contain only the poem, with no critical commentary whatsoever. Lines that are commented upon in the body of the article can be included, but not the thing wholesale. If you want a second opinion, post on the Wikiproject poetry forum, but don't just keep adding the poem wholesale. There is precedent for this removal in many poetry articles, even when the poem is short-- see Strange fits of passion have I known or The Raven or Kubla Khan, for instance. Lithoderm 14:57, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
- Well, I guess I'll just have to agree to disagree. I really think that people browsing wikipedia would like to read the poem and not search for it elsewhere. at the very least there should be a prominent link to the wikisources page. also this is offtopic but to be blunt, if wikipedia is not a democracy, who died and made you the king of "The Tyger"? :) (please treat that as a question honestly geared at learning about how wikipedia works! :) --Leav (talk) 23:44, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
- p.s the 3 edits were just minor changes (I only really added the poem once!)