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O'Donnell motto at the Vatican

"In hoc signo vinces" was copied from the church by the O'Ds, but the article gives the impression that "their" motto was copied all over Rome. The O'Donnell arms were granted by James I to the short-lived first earldom of 1603-1614. Could we have a source that the cardinal was descended from the earls of the first creation?86.42.199.200 (talk) 14:47, 23 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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+"In hoc signo vinces" was copied from the church by the O'Ds, but the article gives the impression that "their" motto was copied all over Rome. The O'Donnell arms were granted by James I to the short-lived [[Earl_of_Tyrconnell#Earls_of_Tyrconnell.2C_first_creation_.281603.29|first earldom]] of 1603-1614. Could we have a source that the cardinal was descended from the earls of the first creation?[[Special:Contributions/86.42.199.200|86.42.199.200]] ([[User talk:86.42.199.200|talk]]) 14:47, 23 December 2008 (UTC)