Talk:The Ting Tings

Leeds University

Neither Katie or Jules ever attended Leeds University, they MAY have met whilet gigging there for earlier bands but I doubt it... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.84.105.214 (talk) 02:36, 21 November 2008 (UTC) Both Katie and Jules attended Leeds University. They ALSO met there whilst gigging for earlier bands but I mean it... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.97.111.90 (talk) 21:19, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

Picture?

The picture for this article is hilariously terrible. Any chance of a better one?99.238.59.26 (talk) 01:12, 16 May 2008 (UTC) Yes, user 99.238.59.26. She reminds me of PacMan.

I agree. It's very artistic, which I like, but it doesn't exactly illustrate the point... curlybap 12:49, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

Well, I like it a lot - I took it! I agree it's a shame that half of the band isn't in it - but it's difficult to do this and get a close up. Holly har (talk) 20:44, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

What about this image? Or maybe even this one? Both are from the same blog licenced CC-BY. --Reader 781 (talk) 01:12, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

I like the one with the white background. -- AvatarMN (talk) 05:38, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

Indie

How can an artist signed to Columbia ever be called Indie? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.60.188.11 (talk) 19:43, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Exactly. All their major songs have been high up in the charts, too. I don't really think you can call them indie-pop either, as there's nothing in their stuff that's really 'twee'. Basically "indie" and "alternative" don't mean much anymore, gets me riled up, I'd rather they were just called pop really but apparently marketeers think that's a bad word. Changing it in the article will create an edit war, as inevitably most people editing the page of an artist are fans. Let it be, I'd say. LiamUK (talk) 22:40, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

Article

I would like to discuss if the world needs a Ting Tings Wikipedia page. I'd like to give a few reasons:

1) Their myspace page is highly popular: 271.000+ profile views, roughly 5,000 views a day, people seem to be interested in the band. 2) They performed at Glastonbury festival, which is one of the biggest festivals in the world. 3) They supported Reverend & The Makers in their UK tour and will be part of the Line Up of the NME Tour next year. 4) Both their singles were highly popular on BBC 6 Music and their limited 7 editions were sold out fairly early.

Katie White has just been interviewed on BBC 6Music (02-JAN-2008). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.254.237.50 (talk) 15:13, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

There should be plenty of online stuff to make a decent article. Just a brief history and glastonbury etc. radio1 playlist. regularly feature in NME etc. tours. disography. Person642 (talk) 20:46, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

I have gone back in the articles history to an earlier version, which I and others created with some great references. I wish the Anon's would stop removing huge lumps of text - when its referenced, why do it? The articles now back to something which represents a decent attempt from which to move this whole thing forward. Rgds, --Trident13 (talk) 09:34, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

Classic mistake. It's not whether the world needs a Ting Tings Wikipedia page; it's whether the world needs Wikipedia. 90.212.113.110 (talk) 20:24, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

Thank you very much, Trident13, I appreciate your work. I also find the "deleters" very annoying. Keep your head! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 134.220.188.241 (talk) 23:25, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

Well, some of the internet users of wikipedia seem to have a certain amount of envy regarding the Ting Tings. That's pathetic. Get a life!--Shiver (talk) 14:03, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

Ting Ting does not mean penis in Japanese, it is Chin Chin.

Merge fromKatie White

Is there a need on an article for the singer? This article is pretty stubby, as is the article on her. Her other asociated act both doesn't seem to be notable and its existence is unsourced. One good article is better than two stubs and merge here would follow standard practice. --Pretty Green (talk) 06:53, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

Contradiction?

It might just be me, but I've read this three times and it doesn't make sense to me:

"Shortly after the release of the album, the band released a statement on the social network service MySpace which explained to fans that their single "That's Not My Name" had reached number 1 in the UK Singles Charts, the statement went on to encourage fans to purchase legal copies of the single in order to keep at the top position for the official Sunday Chart release on May 18th."

So it was already at #1, and then they encouraged people to buy it to keep it at #1? No, because it entered at #1 on May 18th, and then fell to #2 the following week (May 25th). So I don't get this. Can anyone assist?Tobycek (talk) 20:47, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

live

What do these guys do live, seeing as there's only two of them on stage, do use a backing track for the guitars/bass/whatever? Live members? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.149.209.100 (talk) 20:52, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

Both can sing, drum and play guitar, Katie uses a guitar most of the time. I suppose they must for some overlaying lyrics anyway. Still me^, http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/livelounge/artist/080707_tingtings.shtml he uses a pedel thing with premixed stuff.86.139.41.195 (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 16:56, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

"Saint Louis hopes the Ting Tings' bus explodes on the way to Lollapalooza.

If it wasn't too hot for the me and the rest of the crowd to stand there and sweat their asses off and it wasn't too hot for the bar staff to sling drinks all goddamn night it definitely wasn't too hot for a couple of British divas to play three more of their over-rated pop "songs." Way to play 75% of a set, champs. I guess when your career is built on an iPod commercial you don't really bother to worry about credibility anyway.

Notice it wasn't too hot for them to take 100% of the crowd's money. What a shitty night." —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cleveragency (talk • contribs) 21:18, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

Age

Probably read it here that he did something 21 years ago, and she support 5ive, neither of which could of been done before age 16 or so, making them 37 and 25, at least? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.150.225.206 (talk) 13:39, 9 July 2008 (UTC) Me again, ref 7 says a 9 year difference.86.139.41.195 (talk) 16:58, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

Jules is 41. He was in the same year as me in school and I'm 41. Culvercliff (talk) 15:56, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

Katie is 36. She was in the same school year as me and I'm 36. Dr PhD (User talk:DrPHD) (UTC) @@@@ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.97.111.90 (talk)

It only gets changed if you have a reliable source to back up the claim. There are currently sources for the existing content, therefore a lot more sources will be needed that contractict it will be needed. Wikipedia is about whats verfiable through reliable sources not truth. AngelOfSadness talk 16:56, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

Some sources say Jules is 29, 25, 35, or 41. Which are correct? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.97.111.90 (talk) 21:21, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

Jules was born in July 1967. His first band Babakoto released a couple of singles ( 'Just to get by' and 'Magic Potion' ) in 1987--plenty of verification on web. I went to school ( Beal ) with him but lost contact. Believe he got married at some stage and might still be in fact. He was born in East London and lived through to his early thirties in Gants Hill before moving to the Manchester area. He is absolutely, definitely unquestionably 41 years young. So there !! Think about it-if he was born in 1979, Babakoto would have released their singles when he was 8 !!!. Look at the photo of the cover sleeves. Doesn't look 8 to me !! Culvercliff (talk) 20:32, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

Don't know if this counts, but I checked through ancestry.com, on the register of births, marriages and deaths - and Jules de Martino was DEFINITELY born in July 1967... (The_Mayor, who has forgotten his password) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.98.50.72 (talk) 16:16, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

No culvercliff. Jules was born in 1979. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.97.111.90 (talk) 15:45, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

Katie was born on 8 June 1972, so she's 36. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.36.25.25 (talk) 12:37, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

The ages in the article have now reverted to the wildly-optimistic/record-company-approved versions. If nothing else, the content about their previous bands contradicts the stated birth years. Does anyone have any robust sources that can be linked to? All I could dig up was a local press rehash of some marketing [1] which is hardly reliable (but does provide a 'minimum' age for Katie White). Khcf6971 (talk) 13:12, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

Avril Troll

Could someone please revert the page back to the state it was before someone put "Avril Lavine rocks my socks" on it as I don't know how to edit. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.69.48.60 (talk) 18:53, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

Live performances

Shouldn't the artist's page list their live performances. TTTs have appeared in some of the big festivals this year. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Xsachinm (talk • contribs) 22:57, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

Could

Someone begin working on the wikip ages for the band members? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.125.106.80 (talk) 08:28, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

Sentence Makes No Sense

And it has been relatively copied from the source. This bit...

"This earlier experience left White and De Martino with a distrust of the music industry, so when they formed The Ting Tings - named after a Chinese colleague of White's at a boutique, who told her the name meant "an old bandstand[6]" in Mandarin - and probably helped them achieve success in Japan, where it is commented on"

Just a weird run-on. I will fix, if no-one likes it, feel free to revert. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Utahguy (talk • contribs) 18:04, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

Now it makes even less sense. Everything can be transliterated with katakana. "Ting Tings" doesn't even really lend itself well, since you have to do the "TE"+"I" thing to get "tingutinguzu" or whatever it is. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.167.78.114 (talk) 01:50, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

Picture Change

I'd like to suggest that a new-picture be used for the main part of the page, as the current one only shows Katie White. This image would be a good one: [[2]]

It's currently being used on the page lower down from the current image, but I think it's better than the current image.

MightyJordan (talk) 12:58, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

Actually, [Image:The Ting Tings.jpg here's another image] which could be used as it is a quite clear picture and features both members on the band. But the only downside, is that it is significantly smaller than the other two current images being used in the article. Either way, I don't really mind what picture is used but a picture with both band members is really what's needed on the infobox to give a more fair representation of the band. AngelOfSadness talk 16:53, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

I think the picture uploader keeps adding this image, which is a) the worst picture I have seen of Katie White, b) makes her look rather ugly (which I hitherto thought was an impossible feat), and c) is probably the worst example of gig photography I have seen. For the good of this article and indeed all of mankind it needs to be removed swiftly. Feudonym (talk) 00:21, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

Redirect

The redirect for the name of the artists linking just this page? I think it could be useful at all. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 151.16.15.191 (talk) 13:38, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

Television appearances

Regarding edits done by G.-M. Cupertino and comments left in edit summaries completely unrelated to the actual edit:

• "2008 MTV Awards and T4 on the Beach 2008 aren't TV series and hence don't have episodes or dates as titles" - Hence what do you call to shows emissions but episodes? Shmedpisodes?...

Many apologies but I do not know what you mean - "what do you call to shows emissions but episodes?" does not make any sense. If you are asking what do you call them, then they are called TV programmes. If you do not know the definition of an episode then I suggest you look it up on wikipedia: An episode is a part of a dramatic work such as a serial television or radio program. An episode is a part of a sequence of a body of work, akin to a chapter of a book.

T4 on the Beach 2008 was a festival that was broadcast on TV, and 2008 MTV Video Music Awards was an awards show, hence they are both simply TV programmes and do not have episode titles. I have explained this many times but you do not seem to understand this.

• "It's a band, not an actor. Of COURSE it's "themselves"!" - Not of COURSE: sometimes they're also as just Guests or as GUESTS TO AWARDS and I've seen bands playing roles of other fictional bands!...

You are getting confused here. Even if they were "just Guests" or as "GUESTS TO AWARDS", they'd still be themselves. It's only if they're acting in a programme, as you say, if they're playing the role of a fictional band, that they wont be "themselves". However this being rather rare, I think we can stick to leaving this out unless such a situation arises, in which case this can be easily specified. Being musicians it makes perfect sense to make the assumption that they're appearing as themselves and not acting as another. Just because you copied it from their imdb, it doesn't mean that the format and exact wording has to stay, especially as it looks rather ugly, 9 repeated uses of "(Themselves), (Themselves), (Themselves).."

Also, I suggest you use either this article's or my talk page. Edit summaries are not the place to reply to people nor start discussions. Thanks for your input.

Feudonym (talk) 03:57, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

Replaced Photo

Original Photo

New Photo

I have changed the photo in the 'Formation and exposure' section to a more recent and aesthetic one.. The new photo was taken by myself at The Ting Tings' performance at the Variety Playhouse in Atlanta, GA on October 23, 2008.

Matthew Gibbons (talk) 19:00, 1 November 2008 (UTC)