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This is an interesting claim. Suggested by whom? And why is it considered valid enough to include? Especially as there is little to no evidence anywhere that one CAN overdose on LSD in this manner. In addition, there are better, more data-based theories about these deaths. It appears that industrial pollution (hydrogen sulfide in particular, released from a body of water) is currently considered the most likely culprit.[[Special:Contributions/24.17.180.126|24.17.180.126]] ([[User talk:24.17.180.126|talk]]) 17:01, 21 October 2008 (UTC) |
This is an interesting claim. Suggested by whom? And why is it considered valid enough to include? Especially as there is little to no evidence anywhere that one CAN overdose on LSD in this manner. In addition, there are better, more data-based theories about these deaths. It appears that industrial pollution (hydrogen sulfide in particular, released from a body of water) is currently considered the most likely culprit.[[Special:Contributions/24.17.180.126|24.17.180.126]] ([[User talk:24.17.180.126|talk]]) 17:01, 21 October 2008 (UTC) |
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:Without a citation, this is just weasel words. [[User:Turkeyphant|'''''<span style="color:#0808C8">Tu</span><span style="color:#0606BE">rk</span><span style="color: #040488">ey</span><span style="color:#020264">ph</span><span style="color:#000064">an</span>''''']][[User talk:Turkeyphant|<sup><big>t</big></sup>]] 02:20, 12 December 2008 (UTC) |
:Without a citation, this is just weasel words. [[User:Turkeyphant|'''''<span style="color:#0808C8">Tu</span><span style="color:#0606BE">rk</span><span style="color: #040488">ey</span><span style="color:#020264">ph</span><span style="color:#000064">an</span>''''']][[User talk:Turkeyphant|<sup><big>t</big></sup>]] 02:20, 12 December 2008 (UTC) |
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== Timothy Leary == |
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"While it is true that Leary's experiments did not lead to any murders, he wilfully chose to ignore the bad trips which occurred, as well as the attempted suicide of a woman the day after she was given mescaline by Leary." |
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I think perhaps the second half of this sentence warrants a deletion. Not only does it put the neutrality of the article into question, but the article is about about LSD, not mescaline, which is an entirely different chemical altogether. All the statement does is call the character of Timothy Leary into question which is, at the least, irrelevant, if not biased. |
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Acid House in the 1990s - wasn't that really all about the emergence of Ecstasy as a recreational drug? Not sure LSD had all that much to do with it (despite the name). There's no reference in the article for the claim. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.69.214.14 (talk) 18:11, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
I feel that Ken Kesey had an important enough impact to be added to this section.
hi i am doing a report on the possitive effects of LSD, and was wondering if you could help me. I am in gr. 8, am 13 years old and want to get a good mark.lol
I hope that you can help me
thanks-
daniela
- Wikipedia is not the place to request such information. A thorough search of the internet may help you. Visiting the Erowid Experience Vault or LSD on Lycaeum may be two places to start. However, do note that these generally only represent the experiences of individuals, and they are not formal studies, and thus carry very little weight from an academic standpoint. Searching Pub Med or Erowid Reference Vault for scientific studies may help. Or, perhaps this isn't the best project to embark upon in the eigth grade? Either way, good luck to you. --Muugokszhiion 01:56, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
doctor/lsd
I have a friend who insists that once someone has ingested LSD they are no longer eligible to become a surgeon or be in any medical profession aside from Gen. Practitioner. Personally I dont buy it. But Ive heard it asserted by a few people over the years and I wonder at both the verity of the claim and, if false, where the rumour got started. thanks.
FROM ANONYMOUS: I'm currently in medical school. I have done significant quantities of LSD and continue to do so. I don't suffer flashbacks. I'm doing just fine in my surgery rotation. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.107.129.166 (talk) 16:33, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
Obvious urban legend. Look it up. Turkeyphant 02:17, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
Resistance and proscription
History of LSD#Resistance and proscription is very, very POV at present. needs a rewrite imo --Kaini 04:48, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
First paragraph detailing LSD's first synthesis was factually inaccurate, details have been changed to more accurately represent what actually happened
Citations
I have provided references for the facts flagged. Would anyone object to removing the banner claiming this article does not cite its sources? Turkeyphant 22:24, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
Neutrality of the article
Under the section "Resistance and prohibition", underneath the quote it says: "They fail to mention that these "adverse reactions" are almost exclusively the result of a "psychedelic" dose", which seems as if the writer were offended by the conclusion which the government had come to. I suggest the paragraph be re-written in a more unbiased fashion, but if I'm wrong feel free to say why.
Facetious sentence
Under "Resistance and prohibition," the following sentence is jocose: "There are no bad trips, only bad people." That is slightly funny -- I've sometimes thought about replying to someone's tentative "This is a stupid question..." with, "There are no stupid questions, only stupid people," -- but obviously any kind of contextual joke is out of place here. I'll delete the sentence shortly if no one rises to object. Dratman 04:10, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
- No Objection. Wikidudeman (talk) 12:24, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
- Reminds me of a quote from Timothy Leary and Terence McKenna: "LSD is a drug that occasionally causes psychotic behavior in people who have not taken it." —Viriditas | Talk 01:01, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
- No Objection. Wikidudeman (talk) 12:24, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
Bicycle Day
I removed the subsection titled "Bicycle day" as it was highly tangential. There is already an appropriate reference to "Bicycle Day" in the section titled "Discovery and history". TR166ER (talk) 15:26, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
- Tom Roberts should be cited as he coined this phrase Turkeyphant 02:18, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
Psychiatric uses
The mention of UK psychiatric uses says, "but Dr Spencer was the last member of the medical staff to use it". Who's Dr Spencer? --Ashawley (talk) 16:01, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
- Needs to be added in: "After Dr Sandison left the hospital in 1964, medical superintendent Dr Arthur Spencer took over and used the drug until he retired in 1972." Turkeyphant 02:19, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
This article should be flagged for citations
I'm curious why there would not be a flag at the top of this article for citations, or at least in-text citations. The "Government Experiments" and "History" (of recreational use) sections are filled with claims that require citations, and there's not even a single citation in them. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kellenwright (talk • contribs) 06:37, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
another citation needed, at least
"LSD overdose was suggested as a possible cause in the still-unsolved deaths of CSIRO scientists Dr Gilbert Bogle and his lover Dr Margaret Chandler, whose naked bodies were found beside the Lane Cove River in Sydney after a New Year's Eve party in on January 1, 1963."
This is an interesting claim. Suggested by whom? And why is it considered valid enough to include? Especially as there is little to no evidence anywhere that one CAN overdose on LSD in this manner. In addition, there are better, more data-based theories about these deaths. It appears that industrial pollution (hydrogen sulfide in particular, released from a body of water) is currently considered the most likely culprit.24.17.180.126 (talk) 17:01, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
- Without a citation, this is just weasel words. Turkeyphant 02:20, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
Timothy Leary
"While it is true that Leary's experiments did not lead to any murders, he wilfully chose to ignore the bad trips which occurred, as well as the attempted suicide of a woman the day after she was given mescaline by Leary."
I think perhaps the second half of this sentence warrants a deletion. Not only does it put the neutrality of the article into question, but the article is about about LSD, not mescaline, which is an entirely different chemical altogether. All the statement does is call the character of Timothy Leary into question which is, at the least, irrelevant, if not biased.