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I am curious about this addition: "The hiragana "syllabic n" (ん) originally derives from a hentaigana for /mu/." As I understand it, ん derives from the 天 character. Can anyone shed some light on this? adamrice 19:19, 22 Sep 2004 (UTC)

That's 无 (as in 無, nothing(ness)), not 天. - 218.208.245.127 15:11, 5 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

An example on the right side would be nice. As it is now, I thought the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Sho.png image was a hentaigana until I read more carefully.

Finding public-domain images can be a problem, but if you find one, go ahead and post it. adamrice 13:51, 25 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Not in Unicode?

Why has Unicode no code points for hentaigana characters assigned? --84.61.22.108 14:20, 28 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Because it's an obsolete writing system. --FlareNUKE 01:08, 1 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

No. Unicode already includes several obsolete writing systems, and they've recently even accepted the future addition of a script that's not just obsolete, but undeciphered. We don't even know what the symbols mean.

Well, in that case it could be either be because

1. It's not well known, and they have not gotten around to it, or

2. They don't see a point in it.

FlareNUKE 11:41, 1 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I think the reason is that they're considered variant forms of the existing hiragana characters. But that's arguable, of course, so maybe they'll be added to unicode in the future. --Ptcamn 01:13, 1 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Unicode does indeed encode historical scripts. However, no one has submitted a proposal yet. They are not variants. Bendono 06:52, 7 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I found a site with a downloadable font supposedly containing over 200 Hentaigana. Here's the site: http://www.mojikyo.org/ I haven't downloaded the font yet, but I will.Moocowsrule (talk) 05:13, 23 August 2008 (UTC)Moocowsrule[reply]

The page to download is down on Mojikyo, so you have to download from another site: http://www.stanford.edu/group/scbs/mojikyo/. Moocowsrule (talk) 05:24, 23 August 2008 (UTC)Moocowsrule[reply]

Sorry for so many posts but I found another site for Unicode. Sadly it's all in Japanese and seeing as I'm horrible with Kanji I have no idea what they're saying. http://homepage2.nifty.com/Gat_Tin/kanji/kana.htm.Moocowsrule (talk) 05:31, 23 August 2008 (UTC)Moocowsrule[reply]

Full Table list:

http://japan-studies.com/language/hiragana/hentaigana/ --FlareNUKE 11:45, 1 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

That table is far from complete. Bendono 06:53, 7 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Characters

Who created the hentaigana images shown in the article? The calligraphy is beautiful. 66.171.76.241 04:25, 10 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This guy most likely. --FlareNUKE 04:24, 11 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

hentai

It was bound to happen...OMFG HENTAI LOLOLOLLOLOLOOLOLOL —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.75.171.118 (talk) 04:25, 7 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Could anybody please provide some etymological details on the name?~~Nicholas A. Chambers 18:37, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

misreading?

I would appreciate a cite or some backup for the idea that "iwan to suru" is a "misreading" of "iwamu to suru" -- I realize that "iwan" is a variant of "iwamu", but it can be seen as far back as the Man'youshu in the 7th century. The idea that the written form influenced that pronunciation change is highly suspicious to me. The section also refers to 1900 writing reforms, which I have never heard of (does the writer mean 1945?)

I agree, this is probably wrong. According to all the Japanese language webpages I could find this is simply a case of the pronunciation shifting, without influence from the the form. I added a "citation needed".

-"david —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.89.129.147 (talk) 00:45, 27 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hentaigana links

I found a site on 123explore containing a few Hentaigana related links. Here's the page: http://www.123exp-comm.com/t/23394324724/. Hope this is useful.Moocowsrule (talk) 05:16, 23 August 2008 (UTC)Moocowsrule[reply]

New Info

Evidently by adding a small Dakuten of Handakuten at the corner of the Hentaigana it reads as the changed character. Proof of this is on this page: http://homepage2.nifty.com/Gat_Tin/kanji/kana.htm. I'm not sure how correct this is though...Moocowsrule (talk) 05:34, 23 August 2008 (UTC)Moocowsrule[reply]

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 It was bound to happen...OMFG HENTAI LOLOLOLLOLOLOOLOLOL  <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/68.75.171.118|68.75.171.118]] ([[User talk:68.75.171.118|talk]]) 04:25, 7 October 2007 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
+:Could anybody please provide some etymological details on the name?~~Nicholas A. Chambers 18:37, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
 == misreading? ==