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:(Sorry, I don't know how to indent. If another editor who reads this does, please indent what's to follow, and delete this parenthetical comment.) No. According to a morpheme-based analysis, "kid" is one morpheme, and "kids" is two (the first morpheme is "kid", and the second is "-s"). Each of these, though, is only one word. [[Special:Contributions/76.93.41.50|76.93.41.50]] ([[User talk:76.93.41.50|talk]]) 08:13, 10 January 2009 (UTC) |
:(Sorry, I don't know how to indent. If another editor who reads this does, please indent what's to follow, and delete this parenthetical comment.) No. According to a morpheme-based analysis, "kid" is one morpheme, and "kids" is two (the first morpheme is "kid", and the second is "-s"). Each of these, though, is only one word. [[Special:Contributions/76.93.41.50|76.93.41.50]] ([[User talk:76.93.41.50|talk]]) 08:13, 10 January 2009 (UTC) |
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::You put colons in front of it. No, as some words are not morphemes:words, for. Meanwhile, some morphemes are not words:un- anti- dis- -ism, etc[[Special:Contributions/24.17.191.208|24.17.191.208]] ([[User talk:24.17.191.208|talk]]) 02:55, 11 February 2009 (UTC) |
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== Morphological Analysis Must Be Drastically Modified == |
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I think there are 2 views here that are being combined in this entry. There are linguists that would only include as morphemes, a unit of "grammatical meaning," like plural markers, past tense markers etc. Others would include as morphemes, any unit of "meaning," like "find," "book," etc. In introducing "meaning" into the concept of morpheme, one also introduces a subjective element and context-sensitive element.
I am not sure that one can combine these approaches.
Dictionary definitions are rarely helpful here. —Preceding unsigned comment added by RoseParks (talk • contribs) 15:06, 15 May 2001
- I'm also very leary of combining Morphological analysis and Lexical analysis, as is implied by saying morphemes combine to form lexemes. We are definitely treading too far from the Neutral Perspective in that statement. I know linguists (non-Chomsky to be sure) who would read this and consider it an aberration. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Conversion script (talk • contribs) 15:43, 25 February 2002
This The morpheme plural-s has the morph "-s" in cats ([kæts]), but "-es" in dishes ([diʃɪz]), and even the soft s, [z], in dogs ([dogz]). These are the allomorphs of "-s". It might even change entirely into -ren in children. is from Spencer, morphology. FlammingoHey 09:45, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
The current english example says that able is a bound morpheme while it is clearly free: able to be broken <=> breakable. --66.92.165.38 04:01, 23 June 2007 (UTC)
- Wrong. 'able' is a free morpheme, yes. It means "capable of doing something". But '-able' is a bound morpheme, in fact meaning the opposite - it means "capable of having the preceding action done to it". Hence, "breakable" means "able to BE broken", not "able to break". The bound morpheme reverses the voice and describes the passive action, not the active. ghostmoonEVPhauntings 02:19, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
Serious Review Required
This encyclopaedic entry cannot be considered accurate unless outstanding issues have been addressed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jp adelaide (talk • contribs) 14:45, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
Definition needs more detail
Include the root of the word Morpheme (New Testament Greek?) and the linguistics schools it applies and does not apply to. Include links to other linguistic topics based around morphemes and the philosophy of linguistic study. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jp adelaide (talk • contribs) 14:53, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
Able a free or bound morpheme?
In the article the morpheme "-able" in the word "unbreakable" is described as a bound morpheme. I would suggest that isn't the case: the morpheme "able" is a free morpheme such as "break", as it can be a word of its own, a synonymous of "capable". manu3d (talk) 15:10, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
!This article conflicts itself it claims suffixes are both free and bound morphemes. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.126.174.93 (talk) 19:31, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
merges?
Bound_morpheme and Free_morpheme should both be merged into this article. It's not very long as-is, and the free and bound pages are both stubs. Nyoro n (talk) 19:49, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
Words a subset of Morphemes?
is the set of all English words W a subset of all English morphemes M? In other words, is ? Are there any words that are not morphemes? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.34.40.3 (talk) 00:22, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
- (Sorry, I don't know how to indent. If another editor who reads this does, please indent what's to follow, and delete this parenthetical comment.) No. According to a morpheme-based analysis, "kid" is one morpheme, and "kids" is two (the first morpheme is "kid", and the second is "-s"). Each of these, though, is only one word. 76.93.41.50 (talk) 08:13, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
- You put colons in front of it. No, as some words are not morphemes:words, for. Meanwhile, some morphemes are not words:un- anti- dis- -ism, etc24.17.191.208 (talk) 02:55, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
Morphological Analysis Must Be Drastically Modified
I would actually delete it, only I don't want the header deleted. It would be nice to include a description of what morphological analysis is in this article. Unfortunately what is currently under the header "Morphological Analysis" is a description of a few very specific computational analysis systems employed by what looks like one or two Asian universities. If this has a place in Wikipedia, it's not here. 76.93.41.50 (talk) 08:17, 10 January 2009 (UTC)