User talk:AnmaFinotera

Comodo Firewall Pro

Hi, I'm not good with tables, so can you fix the article Comodo Firewall Pro's table? I'm not sure if it's suppose to be using a table also since I never worked on a computer program article. DragonZero (talk) 06:33, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

It really shouldn't be a table, nor should every minor version be noted. A paragraph or two of prose giving its major version history would be preferred. -- Collectonian (talk · contribs) 14:27, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

Hello, I'm wondering if this page should be requested for protection Naruto: Clash of Ninja (series). Apparently, people like to change the tables and add false information about release dates, change the name of Naruto Shippuden: Gekito Ninja Taisen! EX to Naruto revolution 3. Mostly it's the table that I see vandalised mostly. It seems the vandalism has begun since December and is still going on. DragonZero (talk) 07:08, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

Hmmm...you can try, but I suspect that because it isn't happening every day, the request would be denied. Are editors having trouble keeping up with them? -- Collectonian (talk · contribs) 15:38, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

Not really, but I have to do long chains of undos at times. DragonZero (talk) 20:31, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

Hello, I'm not good with tables, and this will be alot of work, but can you fuse the dates to a table already made on the articles that have been expected to be merged? If my words are confusing, seeing the article will make more sense. Japanese Beyblade DVD. Thanks. DragonZero (talk) 00:41, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

Hmmm...I'm not fully getting the question. That article needs axing though....ewwww....With that many volumes, I'm thinking just do prose summary rather than tables at all. -- Collectonian (talk · contribs) 01:26, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

What about the article MegaVideo? Eversince it installed the time limit, many people have been angry and posting ways to get past it or other sites to use instead of it. DragonZero (talk) 05:55, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

Love Hina

Two points really. Fullmetal Alchemist (GA) has a section for merchandise. Normally I'd not refer to other articles as a reason for keeping something, but aside from having a lot of information to go in that section (thanks to using some of it in a character sandbox, I have most of the references handy), a GA is hard to ignore. There are others too

Kanon (also GA) has a "Music" section rather then "Soundtrack" section, and WP:MOS-AM doesn't dictate a suggestion for proper naming, merely suggests it under other media (should possibly be clarified). I personally chose to rename it due to the semantics (Soundtrack implies music used during the game/show/whatever, whereas Love Hina has a lot of music not used in the show itself), plus I was planning to expand it, which would take the meaning away from "soundtrack" even more. Also some of the cds have drama tracks, so it would have been renamed again anyway (I can't justify a seperate section for drama, so either "Music and Drama' or "Soundtrack and Drama" possibly).

Music, well I would prefer it be "music", but not to the point where I'm going to make a fuss (thats the day I need shooting). Merchandise just seems a sensible thing to include, although for character articles it does come under Reception on MOS-AM. MOS-AM doesn't even mention it for series articles. (which suggests its neither expected nor to be avoided, so could probably go through discussion) Dandy Sephy (talk) 05:18, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

FMA is GA, not FA. Tokyo Mew Mew is FA and has no such section, nor does any other similar article. Also, FMA's section is under media and is basically an "other" section (and really isn't needed and will likely be axed if it goes for FA). Kanon is not primarily an anime/manga article, its a visual novel and generally falls more under the music guidelines than the anime/manga MoS. Also, it is again not FA, only GA. CDs would be an acceptable alternative, rather than Music as obviously drama Cds aren't music either. Or drama CDs can go under the "other" section. Personally, I don't see the point of having a merchandise section in the series article at all. It seems to encourage excessive minor details and trivial information, particularly as almost all manga and anime series have at least some kind of merchandise made for it. I think it should be discussed before trying to make it a norm. In either case, as there was no content yet, it seems pointless to even put in a separate section in Love Hina and just encourage people to come put in all kinds of stuff. -- Collectonian (talk · contribs) 05:32, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

I actually hit save instead of preview, if you'd been 5-10 minutes late in editing, I'd have pasted a start from an existingsandbox. I agree that "CDs" is an acceptable compromise. If you wish, I can sandbox a merchandising section for you to decide for yourself, it's not a problem. Dandy Sephy (talk) 06:41, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

I was looking at our current FA's for some idea of the difference between GA and FA and also some ideas for editing Love Hina, and noticed Madlax has a merchandise section. Admittedly that was passed in early 2007, but it went through a overhaul to prevent it losing FA status last year. Thoughts?

I understand the "excessive minor details", but you can see the sort of thing I mean in the reception on my WIP Naru sandbox on the bottom of my user page: a generic comment about lots of merchandise, with a trio of official refs, and then the only merchandise with any real notability outside Japan, sourced from a very reliable source. The only difference is it will cover all 6. If you remain unconvinced, fair enough, we've both got article quality in mind Dandy Sephy (talk) 18:26, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

I'd like to see your sandboxed version id (sorry I didn't reply sooner...going a bit sideways this week LOL). The more I think about it, the more I can see both sides...TV does include a merchandise section in its articles after all, I just want to avoid people going crazy on listing every keychain, figurine, etc (we know how the fans get ;-) ). -- Collectonian (talk · contribs) 19:09, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

You can just see the reception section on the last sandbox on my user page (for stupid reasons I dont want to post my sandboxes on other pages - yes I know people can do it the hard way :p) - the difference won't be massive, just include 3 more examples. I did think about the random keychains etc, but the 3 refs nicely prove they exist and you can easily summarise random stuff like that in 1-3 sentances. Love Hina doesn't suffer from crap being added (since I removed all the OR all those months ago), just the odd vandalism (most of that should stop after the removal of the short character list) Dandy Sephy (talk) 19:14, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

Cool...I'll hunt it down later this evening. I've actually noticed that it seems to be something of a trend. Lower quality articles seem more inclined to be vandalized than ones that are either being actively improved or are already GA/FA/FL level. I wonder if anyone has done any kind of studies on that... ~wanders off on a tangent~ -- Collectonian (talk · contribs) 19:24, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

You may have a point there, in fact I've often been puzzled that certain pages managed to reach B or GA without being destroyed through vanadalism. Every Naruto page in those ranges for example. It helps a lot of editors are likely to be keeping a close eye and insta-revert much of it Dandy Sephy (talk) 19:26, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

On a related note, aside from the lead and plot (the plot is being done as I reread the series for the first time in years, along with some related articles. The lead will be the last thing), how do you think the rest of the article is doing? I can double the size of the soundtrack/albums/music/cds section (might be worth rediscussing once I've done the expansion, "cd's" still doesn't fit) Dandy Sephy (talk) 04:10, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

Talk:Bobobo-bo Bo-bobo

The Bobobo talk page had some major forum problems, I deleted all of the entries. What do you think?, look at the history. Terrible. Must have gotten no attention from real editors like forever, it needs major work. O_O – J U M P G U R U ^{■ask㋐㋜㋗■} 23:15, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

It needed some archiving...did that. :) -- Collectonian (talk · contribs) 01:24, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, I was just gonna say. So what's new with you, I finally got over that cold. :-D Also, quick question, is it okay to source directly to WorldCat rather than having it within a source? :S – J U M P G U R U ^{■ask㋐㋜㋗■} 02:11, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

Glad you're feeling better :) Not much new with me. Bored, lately, but such is life. Continuing to work on my house. Determined to finally get some of my precious books out of boxes and into bookcases, particularly when I've already added 28 to my collection this month alone, with like 10 more on the way. Bought two of the six 5 shelf ones I expect to need and now I just need to get them out of my trunk. They weigh like 70 lbs each, so getting them through the house will be a serious pain! Also painted a glass doored one I have for my fragile books...need to do the shelves and doors and it should be ready for use. Alas, the mist from the spray can got on some of my books...not bad enough to discolor, but enough to turn my fingers black when I touched them LOL. What do you mean on the WorldCat? Can you give me an example? -- Collectonian (talk · contribs) 02:16, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

You know, WorldCat, the database: "Cobra". Cobra. WorldCat. Retrieved 2009-02-22.. I'm rewriting the Cobra article, I need to source a part of the WorldCat page. However, WorldCat is often linked within sources when you type in the OCLC and such in the Cite book or Cite journal. Get it? : ) New with me: I'm going to soon get my own artbook! X-D I will serialize a series on my YouTube channel. Didn't get to many new manga though. :-| LOL, I commented on an official video for Daytona 500 on YouTube, entirely made of Speed Racer clips: I said that that it was weird that he chose that for his video, very straight forward. Then some guy responded to that and wrote, "Iz like weed n the pipe smoking it then blaze up listening to this man you wanna spit flow". XD – J U M P G U R U ^{■ask㋐㋜㋗■} 02:34, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

Why are you sourcing WorldCat though? Cool on the artbook!-- Collectonian (talk · contribs) 03:21, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

I'm sourcing a section of it for the Cobra article, it has some information. Go look. – J U M P G U R U ^{■ask㋐㋜㋗■} 05:19, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

But what is it sourcing that can't be sourced elsewhere? -- Collectonian (talk · contribs) 05:21, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

Hm...I guess I could source the first issue... But I don't want to source too much publications, I want to stick more to web. But whatever, I guess I could source it by the book. : ) – J U M P G U R U ^{■ask㋐㋜㋗■} 05:24, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

Nothing wrong with sourcing to the publications long as you have page numbers. Indeed, those are considered better sources over web sources where available. :-P -- Collectonian (talk · contribs) 05:31, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

You see, that's the thing. I don't have the page numbers, because I don't have the book. :-P Heh...heh... – J U M P G U R U ^{■ask㋐㋜㋗■} 05:40, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

Oh, then yeah, you can't source the book. But, again, what is WorldCat stating that can't be sourced elsewhere? -- Collectonian (talk · contribs) 14:16, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

But I do have the seventh issue which has the credit information on the second page, which i'm assuming is the same on the first. :D By the way, this is back when manga were put into issues like American comics. These are rare issues. WorldCat stated that Marv Wolfman did the English adaptation and that the comic book issues were under the Viz Select Comics line. : ) – J U M P G U R U ^{■ask㋐㋜㋗■} 17:42, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

Pretty much every Bobobo-related article I've seen is in need of some real editor love... The highest-quality one I'm aware of is the chapter list, and that's only because I cleaned it up a few months back... it still needs work itself, though (particularly in regards to the plot summaries). 「ダイノガイ千？！」^{(Dinoguy1000)} 18:42, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

LOL, I only glanced at the main one then quickly run away screaming refusing to get drawn into anymore long clean up projects for a series I don't even know :P -- Collectonian (talk · contribs) 19:10, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

White Dog

Somehow Erik didn't notice I selected this article for review yesterday (or he chose to ignore it). Anyway, I've added my comments to the GA review page and made some copyedits. Let me know when you've addressed the issues. - Mgm|^(talk) 09:31, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

Done :) -- Collectonian (talk · contribs) 14:11, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

I want to see that movie, it looks good. – J U M P G U R U ^{■ask㋐㋜㋗■} 21:40, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

• I've done a slight edit to address issue 1 of my GA review. Please let me know if you can live with it :) How far have you got with the MPAA review? - Mgm|^(talk) 10:52, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

Sam Fuller

Thanks for reminding me about the articles you have. Feel free to get in touch by email so that we can move ahead. Sam Fuller is in pretty bad shape. Have you seen it? Stetsonharry (talk) 15:03, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

Will do this evening (I have the PDFs on my home comp). And yeah, it is...I have it on my watch list but I'm just not into biographies at all, so mostly just watching to revert any vandalism and try to help with small things like MoS issues or discussions. -- Collectonian (talk · contribs) 15:26, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

Blood: The Last Vampire, Live Action

Sorry for not supporting my edits recently - I've got a starting reference and once the full publicity of the UK premiere hits I'll update the link to point in the right direction. And sorry if this not the right place to say hello. Cowfish (talk) 21:49, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

No problem. I don't think a Twitter feed meets RS, though, so if there isn't an official site or the like with it, might be better to wait to another source is available to confirm it. -- Collectonian (talk · contribs) 21:54, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

The Twitter feed is currently the main news outlet for the festival, as the official site is still waiting on the full programme before release. *I* know it's reliable, but I agree that Twitter doesn't really meet RS :). I'll keep poking the people who publish such things to get their acts together and put out an official source. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cowfish (talk • contribs) 23:58, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

No problem. Since its pretty obvious now its true, and that article isn't a GA nor FA, I put in a shorter version of your comment without the source for now. One can be added later when its confirmed on the official site or press release. -- Collectonian (talk · contribs) 01:06, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

The Manzai Comics

There, that's better. Anyhow I'm looking for more sources - I can tell it's widely published, but I'll see if any Japanese sources mention it. WhisperToMe (talk) 06:50, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

I've CSDed it as it was properly deleted in a very recent AfD. I don't understand why you would even recreated it when it was deleted just last month, when the recreated article is no different from the deleted one. -- Collectonian (talk · contribs) 06:55, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

I'm trying to make it different. As for Atsuko Asano http://mainichi.jp/life/today/news/20090210org00m100011000c.html?link_id=TT004 she may have won a prize from Shogakukan (if what Google translator is saying is true) WhisperToMe (talk) 07:00, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

It still isn't notable per Wikipedia guidelines, hence its being deleted in the AfD. There is no verifiable notability. For Asano, from other recent manga-ka AfDs, that would not make her notable because those publishers literally give out dozens of those every year as part of their "try to find new artists to work for them." They generally aren't significant nor major awards at all. Without knowing specifically what award it is, its hard to say. Either way, though, that alone does not make her notable enough for an article.-- Collectonian (talk · contribs) 07:03, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

Asano's not that recent of an author. http://www.jbby.org/en/books/s16_Battery.html - This says she received Noma Prize for Juvenile Literature in 1997 for Battery. Now, this source also says "Japanese Association for Writer for Children" honored her for Battery 2, but I'd have to dig more into that. WhisperToMe (talk) 07:06, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

That speaks to Battery's notability, again, not her own. See WP:CREATIVE. She does not meet any of those criteria. The novels winning awards might make them notable, but not their writer. -- Collectonian (talk · contribs) 07:13, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

• 1. WP:CREATIVE says that one can be notable if "The person has created, or played a major role in co-creating, a significant or well-known work, or collective body of work, which has been the subject of an independent book or feature-length film, or of multiple independent periodical articles or reviews." - So does this mean I should search Japanese newspapers for reviews of this book? WhisperToMe (talk) 07:21, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
  • Speaking of which, Battery is a film. I dunno how long it is, but if it's feature length that too would support the criteria. WhisperToMe (talk) 07:32, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
• 2. As for the Manzai Comics series, what I'm trying to figure out is this: http://journal.mycom.co.jp/column/ebook/077/ - is this a person's blog or if it is a column from a respected publication about the Manzai Comics series. If it's the latter this can save the article. WhisperToMe (talk) 07:21, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

Being adapted into is not the same as being the subject of. And that is a blog from the looks of it. The article has already been deleted, and one column does not meet WP:BK. It needs significant coverage, as in multiple full reviews. -- Collectonian (talk · contribs) 07:35, 26 February 2009 (UTC) -- Collectonian (talk · contribs) 07:35, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

Sometimes staff members of websites have blog-like pages, but because the people writing them are staff members of a newspaper or another RS, and the blog is hosted on the newspaper/RS website (so therefore the blog entry is a publication of that paper/RS) then it does not count as a blog. That's what I'm trying to determine. WhisperToMe (talk) 08:10, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

Emure

Emure is a city in Nigeria, it is in the Ekiti State, it is not the Ekiti State so stop changing it to the Ekiti State.