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Opinions are welcome in this discussion, as are tags to "unverifiable information" within the article.[[User:Madjabuds|Madjabuds]] ([[User talk:Madjabuds|talk]]) 04:43, 16 February 2009 (UTC)Madjabuds |
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Re: "A Star is Porn" article - if the article is full of misquotes and subtext from the author (regarding Gary, Indiana and GPA), consideration should be put into taking it down. |
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Again, with the writer, photographer, performance/transgressive artist claims. It's ridiculous how poorly moderated this article is despite all the discussion. Look, Sasha is welcome to fancy herself as such, but this is for encyclopedic, unbiased information. [[User:Nabulzi|Nabulzi]] ([[User talk:Nabulzi|talk]]) 07:45, 2 March 2009 (UTC) |
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== Please check the external links. Two of them contain hardcore pornography == |
== Please check the external links. Two of them contain hardcore pornography == |
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Reference to existentialism
Reference to existentialism is unsupported and should be removed. The link currently ([9] listed as reference contains nothing on the subject 209.195.107.49 (talk) 22:55, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
Looks like nobody has any data to back this up. The reference will be removed 209.195.83.225 (talk) 00:45, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
- "Grey has expressed a strong interest in existentialism" She does speak about existentialism in the video linked, but she effectively had not shown any strong interest in that particular philosophical trend. Chenging the start of this sentence into something like "G has expressed an interest in philosophy" might suffice. Can't do it myself. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.67.33.8 (talk) 13:30, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
"Reference to existentialism is unsupported and should be removed."
If you look at the link that I provided and watch the first part of the clip, she refers to this very Wiki page and mentions the exact quote that is cited here, which I fixed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Guy1890 (talk • contribs) 01:47, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
sasha grey
According to her blog, she was on CBS. Can anyone confirm this?
A: Yes. She was interviewed on the TV show 'The Insider' which runs on CBS. It's been posted on YouTube.
A: Yes. She has a much more indepth and current interview on VBS.TV in the shot by Kern section. Unfortunately this site was deemed as spam for a yet to be declared reason. Should be noted that Sasha Grey's website links to this interview, and is the only link on her site besides her myspace blog, where she links to the same VBS.TV interview.
______________ Is she catholic or agnostic? (see her Myspace page)
A Brazilian magazine, EleEla, says that she was born in Fortaleza, Brazil. http://eleela.terra.com.br/aberto/423/artigo40652-1.htm?o=r (in Portuguese)
Please don't become brave with me beautiful young lady
Sorry.I am not an user but,I have a very small question. Please don't become brave with me beautiful young lady. Is it possible to be a catholic person and porn star at the same time?
Covpnt.Friday, September 07, 20071:03 AM —Preceding unsigned comment added by 200.0.24.58 (talk) 05:14, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
- Debatable. Jenna Jameson and her ex-husband Jay Grdina considered themselves Catholic to varying degrees. But then Ted Kennedy is also famous for trying to be a Catholic and an abortion rights supporter. --AnonEMouse (squeak) 13:22, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
- Not to mention, he and his first wife divorced. --anon. 141.157.193.219 (talk) 17:42, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
- Of course. A better question is: is it possible for a porn star to be a *good* Catholic? --Krsont 22:31, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
- in fact, the catholic church rules is based on something called the vulgate - it's the opinions of the members of the church that are not based on the scriptures. And on this particular question, some catholics will say yes, most will say no (the main part of the clergy will say no). Can't be more precise than that. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.67.33.8 (talk) 13:37, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
I suppost that the catholic religion in particular have the obligation to preserv the most complete integrity of the Chirst Church because is the first.It´s not a game.This is the reason what I don't underestand.How a porn start can accept this denomination in particular, with It's very strictic rules? I'm not very sure that Sasha Grey can answer this question.I think that she don´t have to do this necesarily. Vicond (talk)
Please learn how to spell
I'll take it into account.Vicond (talk) 19:28, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
Grey's Height
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Grey's height is 5'6" [1], not 5'7" as currently shown.Nabulzi (talk) 14:16, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
- Done, it got changed by an editor who made several uncited height changes a few months ago. Corrected now, thanks. ~ mazca t | c 16:00, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
- Am I the only person who finds it majorly disconcerting that a person puts up Sasha's driver's license as proof? Tabercil (talk) 08:07, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
- Yeah, I found that odd. If you look though, it's hosted on a porn site of some sort - I assume Nabulzi is in some way connected to Sasha Grey or someone she's worked for. ~ mazca t | c 09:26, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
- License is viewable by the public, and has been for awhile (it has not been uploaded simply for Wikipedia corrections), as part of the gallery on Ron Harris' photography site. Nabulzi —Preceding undated comment was added at 06:19, 6 October 2008 (UTC).
- Yeah, I found that odd. If you look though, it's hosted on a porn site of some sort - I assume Nabulzi is in some way connected to Sasha Grey or someone she's worked for. ~ mazca t | c 09:26, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
- Am I the only person who finds it majorly disconcerting that a person puts up Sasha's driver's license as proof? Tabercil (talk) 08:07, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
Grey stars in Steven Soderbergh film
This should be included in the article. Original news was released at AVN Oct 14 & 15 2008 by David Sullivan: http://www.avn.com/performer/articles/32834.html and http://www.avn.com/performer/articles/32868.html (incl. video)… see also her newsdesk at the IMDb: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2340248/news —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.179.128.206 (talk) 21:06, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
- Done. Tabercil (talk) 23:45, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
Sashas real name
Some of the uncertainties about Sashas real name is removed since her old theater and acting teacher confirmed it on his blog in a discussion with someone who mentioned it there. Is this strong evidence enough to insert it in Wikipedia again?
(link removed)
"(and, though your opinion is welcome, for you to blatantly expose her real name -- be it common knowledge to some or not -- is a ...) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.214.85.162 (talk) 09:19, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
So is IMDB really not a "reliable, third-party published source with a reputation for fact-checking and accuracy" or has someone got a personal wikiarmy keeping sourced info off wikipedia. ;) 98.203.231.237 (talk) 12:20, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
- Not really, no. See [[2]] for one discussion on the topic. Tabercil (talk) 16:48, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
Citations
This is the second time within a month and a half that users have removed VALID citations-please carefully read the links to articles, videos, etc. before removing citations. Thank you! Madjabuds (talk) 04:42, 11 December 2008 (UTC)Madjabuds
Engaged to marry
Fleshbot (NSFW, obviously) reports that she is now engaged. --anon. 68.161.194.201 (talk) 20:09, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
- Is there another source for this? I wouldn't rely on Fleshbot for facts since this post incorrectly says Stoya is a native of Philadelphia.
Also, this article currently states, "After a year, reporters announced in January 2009, Sasha's engagement to her photographer Ian Cinnamon," but the cited Fleshbot post says nothing about how long they've been engaged or dating.
EDITED TO ADD: Oh, I see now that Sasha Grey herself edited in the part about a year (and more), so that verifies the information, but it's not sufficient for Wikipedia (right?).Wank Hilliams (talk) 15:41, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
The engagement has been changed because this is not the first time I have talked about my engagement. See interview from 2007: http://www.rogreviews.com/interviews/sasha_grey_07.asp Madjabuds (talk) 04:43, 16 February 2009 (UTC)Madjabuds
This is a pedia?
I found this entry because I am a fan. That said, at least 80 percent of this page needs to simply go away. Sasha Grey is not Einstein, nor even Jenna Jameson -- yet. She has an enyclopedia entry because she is a known porn star and has done a bit of mainstream crossover work. Her self-proclaimed dabbling in intellectual and philosophical pursuits are not worthy of this entry and most of her work and her personal "interests" are referenced by stories in publications where the facts are referenced to her own quotes. I am a writer, journalist and editor and would clean this up by purging it to about two paragraphs, including the use of her real name, which in spite of discussion to the contrary, is absolutely well documented enough to publish here. (Readers are two clicks away from that name through the IMDB link anyway.) Undoubtedly however, making any changes to this page will bring down the wrath and subsequent reverting of hardcore fans who wouldn't know criteria for an encyclopedia entry if it bit them. Please, someone with a brain back me up on this and let's make this page sensible and Wikipedia something worthy of its number of visits. Spoogeflinger99 (talk) 17:08, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
- I agree with Spoogeflinger99. Even as a fan, it is clear to me that the majority of information has been tailored to allow Grey to self-promote. Great lengths have been reached to ensure her legal name anonymity (which I do not object to), but no lengths have been taken to keep this Wikipedia entry objective. The use of quoting is very relaxed, and refer to just a few words here and there which Grey has given in interviews. I believe Grey needs to have less input for her own page, this is not her personal website. I say this in the least offensive way possible, and am glad someone has brought it up. Nabulzi (talk) 06:07, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
- I don't believe Grey has had much of a hand in writing this entry. Could you be more specific about where you think the article fails in neutrality or which reliably sourced relevant material is omitted? The vast majority of the content of the article is reliably sourced and relevant to the topic, so it is extremely unlikely to be cut, but the content might be rephrased (given neutrality/promotion issues) or expanded (to include more negative neutral content) if the sources allow. Regards, Skomorokh 22:53, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
- Skomorokh, please take a moment to look at contributions made by Madjabuds (who is Sasha Grey). You will see that the majority of this Wikipedia entry has been edited by her. The issue with sources, is that they are linked to interviews in which the quote is barely relevant; not to mention many subjective comments which are unsourced. I have noticed that Jrbot22 has already mentioned to you that the restructuring and restoration of Grey's page is unneccessary, as the same concerns raised initially still apply. The text in this entry does not become more or less objective once you have copied and pasted Grey's words, and tweaked them ever so slightly. Nabulzi (talk) 23:17, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
- Yes, I am familiar with the Madjabuds account. I am not sure what your claim that "the majority of this Wikipedia entry has been edited by her" means - if you mean she has made the majority of the edits, or is the primary contributor, then you are in error. If you have an issue with a particular source, the way to address it is to tag it with {{unreliable}} and explain why the source does not meet WP:RS on the talkpage - not to blanket wipe it out. Likewise, If there are statements you feel are unsourced or non-objective, please let the rest of us know which ones, using {{cn}} and {{npov-inline}} tags for example. You cannot expect to make vague denunciations and have the article wiped. Respectfully, Skomorokh 23:52, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
- As a fan, I pay visits to Sasha's Wikipedia page quite often and noticed that it expanded significantly at one point after her own edits. She has not contributed the most times percentage wise, but all other edits are very minor (ie. reverting good faith edits; reverting vandalism). I have gone through and tagged what I believe need references. What I was attempting to point out earlier is that it could be beneficial to allow this page to be contributed by others more, rather than Grey herself, as things here and there make it non-objective. A number of her own descriptions have been deleted (writer; transgressional artist?), and I think that says something. Like I said before, I'm trying to say this in a non offensive manner that Sasha needs to take a step back from inserting her poorly sourced information about herself. Yes, she knows herself better than anyone else, but this is not the place to write what she fancies herself to be.Nabulzi (talk) 05:16, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
- Yes, I am familiar with the Madjabuds account. I am not sure what your claim that "the majority of this Wikipedia entry has been edited by her" means - if you mean she has made the majority of the edits, or is the primary contributor, then you are in error. If you have an issue with a particular source, the way to address it is to tag it with {{unreliable}} and explain why the source does not meet WP:RS on the talkpage - not to blanket wipe it out. Likewise, If there are statements you feel are unsourced or non-objective, please let the rest of us know which ones, using {{cn}} and {{npov-inline}} tags for example. You cannot expect to make vague denunciations and have the article wiped. Respectfully, Skomorokh 23:52, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
- Skomorokh, please take a moment to look at contributions made by Madjabuds (who is Sasha Grey). You will see that the majority of this Wikipedia entry has been edited by her. The issue with sources, is that they are linked to interviews in which the quote is barely relevant; not to mention many subjective comments which are unsourced. I have noticed that Jrbot22 has already mentioned to you that the restructuring and restoration of Grey's page is unneccessary, as the same concerns raised initially still apply. The text in this entry does not become more or less objective once you have copied and pasted Grey's words, and tweaked them ever so slightly. Nabulzi (talk) 23:17, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
- I don't believe Grey has had much of a hand in writing this entry. Could you be more specific about where you think the article fails in neutrality or which reliably sourced relevant material is omitted? The vast majority of the content of the article is reliably sourced and relevant to the topic, so it is extremely unlikely to be cut, but the content might be rephrased (given neutrality/promotion issues) or expanded (to include more negative neutral content) if the sources allow. Regards, Skomorokh 22:53, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
Discussion in this entry of philosophical leanings, so-called experimental films, being a writer, etc., are not pertinent to the subject being a porn star, which is why she has an entry. These unverified and inflated claims (and there are many) are not encyclopedic in nature, nor are they verified by anyone but herself in various interviews. Almost all of the references in this entry go back to the subject's own quotes. Because she said it, does not make it fact. Finally, most of the copy in this entry falls under the heading of what is called in journalism, "who cares." Meaning that the subject is a porn star and that no one is interested in why she picked her stage name or what her views on existentialism are. (As an example: Barack Obama is a high-profile subject and deserving of a large entry. Although the choice of his children's dog has become interesting fodder in the press, it would not rate an encyclopedia entry.) Most of the Grey entry is overly-detailed and out of proportion in relation to the subject's importance. Seriously, this is the shoddiest Wikipedia entry I have ever seen. I believe my edits are spot on and that anything that was cut is justifiable. All topics that are easily verifiable, of interest to a general readership, and demonstrate some crossover to mainstream known media were left alone. Since I am powerless to revert without being blocked, I ask in good faith, that you, likewise in good faith, consider my edits and consider the tremendous amount of non-encyclopedia worthy material in this entry. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jrbot22 (talk • contribs) 23:32, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
- Wikipedia articles collect the known verifiable information about their topics. Your not liking some information is not grounds for removing it; as a reference work, Wikipedia does not arbitrate what is "interesting" - that is the job of the newspapers, magazines, television shows and so on. Nor is the length of the article something Wikipedia concerns itself with, within limits. If you do not think a specific reference is sufficiently reliable to support the claim for which it is cited, by all means let us know and we can discuss the matter. If you feel that Grey's pornographic career is underrepresented in the article, then by all means proffer some reliable sources that discuss it in greater detail, and we can expand on that point. Regards, Skomorokh 23:57, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
It has nothing to do with whether I like certain material. Most of this material is indeed unverifiable. So let me get this straight. Because an entry grows exponentially over a couple of years with totally unreliable, sometimes downright silly material, editing it way back to verifiable material is considered improper or even vandalism? To tag every topic that is wrong with this subject individually and then wait for arbitration would take years. Common sense should sometimes rule. Submitted in good faith, Jrbot22 18:05, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
- No need for years; if the objectors would identify the questionable material, the handful of us here can debate it out and have the matter settled in the next few days. To say that the article is all unverifiable/promotional/trivial would not get us anywhere; we need some specifics. For example, while the Modelling section seems well-referenced and uncontroversial to me, I am not sure about how much of the Early life section is accurate or verifiable. In order to work out what ought to be included or not, we need to know what is in dispute and why - meet me halfway, eh? Skomorokh 01:08, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
Sasha Grey is a pseudo everything & not- a notable person- & I agree with the above parties that she does not belong on Wikipedia, mostly because of the way she presents herself.. Someone at least needs to include her filmography in order to be a little realistic & support the above factual statements, a filmography which used to be up.
Here it is, Please put it on her page if it must be a Wiki ( destroying Wiki ): As Performer (check scene pairings) Movie Title Distributor Notes Year Rev Formats 12 Nasty Girls Masturbating 8 Madness MastOnly 2006 DRO 18yearsold.com 2 JM Productions Anal Facial Swallow A2M 2007 DR 2 Young To Fall In Love 4 Zero Tolerance Facial 2007 1 DRO 50 To 1 4 Platinum X Pictures BJOnly Facial Bald Swallow 2006 8 DRO A2M 10 Anabolic Video Anal 2007 2 DRO Addicted 5 New Sensations Facial DVDOnly 2008 2 DRO All Alone 2 3rd Degree MastOnly 2007 3 DRO Anal Acrobats Evil Angel LezOnly 2007 3 DRO Anal Acrobats 3 Evil Angel Anal A2M IR 2008 DRO Anal Cavity Search 6 Jules Jordan Video Anal 2009 3 DR Assault That Ass 9 Red Light District DVDOnly 2006 5 DRO Babysitters Digital Playground BJOnly Facial 2007 13 DR Barefoot Confidential 49 Kick Ass Pictures MastOnly 2007 1 DRO Barefoot Confidential 50 Kick Ass Pictures 2007 2 DRO Barely Legal 62 Hustler Video 2006 2 DRO Barely Legal Christmas Hustler Video Facial 2007 4 DRO Before They Were Stars 2 Pink Visual Productions Facial 2007 2 DO Belladonna: Fetish Fanatic 4 Evil Angel LezOnly 2006 2 DRO Belladonna's Oddjobs 2 Evil Angel BJOnly Facial IR 2007 2 DRO Bitchcraft 2 Evil Angel LezOnly 2008 3 DRO Black Cock Addiction 2 Evil Angel BJOnly Facial IR 2006 3 DRO Black Cocks Tiny Teens 4 Pure Play Media Facial IR 2008 1 DR Black Power 3 Evil Angel Anal Facial A2M IR 2008 1 DR Blow Me 18 Demolition BJOnly 2008 DRO Blow Me Sandwich 11 Zero Tolerance BJOnly Facial CumSwap 2007 1 DRO Boundaries 1 Triangle Films LezOnly 2007 1 DR Boundaries 2 Triangle Films LezOnly 2007 1 DRO Boundaries 3 Triangle Films LezOnly 2007 1 DRO Boundaries 5 Triangle Films LezOnly 2008 1 DRO Breakin' Em In Young 2 Bone Digital Facial IR 2007 2 DR Bree and Sasha Adam & Eve LezOnly 2008 4 DRO Bring 'um Young 23 Anabolic Video Anal Facial Swallow 2006 2 DRO Broken Vivid Facial 2007 8 DRO Bullets and Burlesque Adam & Eve Facial 2008 3 DRO Busty College Coeds POV 3 Greedy Anal Facial Swallow A2M DVDOnly 2007 2 DRO Casey Parker is Boy Crazy Shane's World Facial Swallow 2007 5 DR Centerfolds Caught in Action 1 Pink Visual Productions Facial 2007 3 DRO Circa 82 Vivid Facial IR 2008 2 DRO Control 4 Digital Playground Anal Facial DP Swallow A2M 2006 8 DR Control 7 Digital Playground 2007 4 DR Cum Fart Cocktails 5 Red Light District Anal Swallow A2M 2006 3 DRO Daddy's Little Princess 2 Combat Zone Anal Facial A2M 2007 2 DRO Daddy's Worst Nightmare 4 Hush Hush Entertainment Facial Swallow IR 2006 DRO Defend Our Porn Evil Angel BJOnly Facial 2008 5 DRO Doll House 3 Zero Tolerance Anal 2008 3 DRO Face Fucking Inc. 1 Evil Angel BJOnly Facial 2007 2 DRO Fashionistas Safado: The Challenge Evil Angel Anal Facial 2006 6 DRO Feeding Frenzy 9 Jules Jordan Video BJOnly Facial Swallow 2007 4 DRO Filth and Fury 1 Mach 2 Entertainment Anal Facial 2006 4 DRO Filth Cums First 2 Digital Playground Anal Facial 2007 4 DR Filth Cums First 3 Digital Playground BJOnly Facial 2008 4 DR Finger Licking Good 5 3rd Degree LezOnly 2008 1 DRO First Time Ball Busters 1 Voodoo House Facial 2008 4 DRO Fishnets 8 Zero Tolerance Anal Facial Swallow A2M 2008 4 DRO Flower's Squirt Shower 5 Elegant Angel Productions LezOnly 2007 5 DRO Frat House Fuckfest 4 Freaky Deaky Anal Facial A2M DVDOnly 2007 DRO Freaky First Timers 2 Hush Hush Entertainment Anal Facial A2M 2006 DRO Fuck for Dollars 3 Greedy Anal Facial Swallow A2M 2007 1 DRO Fuck Slaves 1 Evil Angel Anal Facial Swallow A2M 2006 5 DRO Fucking Machines.com 1 Kink MastOnly 2008 1 Gag Me Then Fuck Me 3 Rain Productions Facial 2007 1 DRO Gang Bang 5 Red Light District Anal Facial DP Swallow A2M IR 2006 7 DRO Gangbang My Face 1 Evil Angel 2006 2 DRO Girl Next Door 2 Combat Zone Anal Facial DP A2M 2006 2 DRO Grand Theft Anal 11 Zero Tolerance Anal Facial Swallow A2M 2008 5 DRO Hairy Movie Zero Tolerance Facial 2008 3 DRO Head Case 2 3rd Degree BJOnly 2007 2 DRO House of Ass 3 Evolution Erotica Anal Facial A2M 2006 2 DRO House of Ass 7 Tom Byron Pictures Facial 2007 1 DRO House Pets Studio A Entertainment LezOnly 2008 DR I Dig 'Em in Pigtails 3 Acid Rain Facial Swallow 2007 1 DRO I Like Black Boys 1 Devil's Film Anal Facial Swallow A2M IR 2006 DRO Illegal Ass 2 3rd Degree Anal Facial 2006 1 DRO I'm A Big Girl Now 6 Diabolic Video Anal Facial 2006 1 DRO In Thru The Back Door 1 Vouyer Media Anal Facial Bald Swallow 2006 8 DR In Your Face 4 Metro BJOnly Facial 2007 DRO Innocence Brat Ninn Worx Facial 2007 3 DRO Jack's My First Porn 7 Digital Playground Anal Facial 2006 6 DR Jack's My First Porn 8 Digital Playground Anal 2007 5 DR Jack's Teen America 22 Digital Playground Facial Swallow IR 2008 Keep Em Cummin 1 Vouyer Media 2007 3 DRO Kiss Attack Independent Adult Cinema 2008 3 DRO Last Rose Wicked Pictures 2008 1 DRO Load Warriors Evil Angel 2008 DRO Lord of Asses 13 Tom Byron Pictures Anal Facial 2008 2 DRO Los Angeles Vacation Shane's World Facial 2008 Massive Facials Elegant Angel Productions BJOnly Facial IR 2008 6 DRO Meet the Fuckers 7 Zero Tolerance Anal CumSwap Swallow 2007 1 DRO My Daughter's Fucking Blackzilla 9 Hush Hush Entertainment Anal Facial A2M DVDOnly 2006 DRO My Dirty Angels 8 North Star 2007 DRO Naughty America: 4 Her 3 Pure Play Media CumSwap 2007 2 DR Naughty Book Worms 7 Pure Play Media Facial Swallow 2007 DR Naughty Flipside 1: Saha Grey Pure Play Media Facial 2007 2 DR Neighbor Affair 6 Pure Play Media CumSwap 2007 3 DR Neighbors Penthouse Facial 2007 3 DR No Swallowing Allowed 13 Diabolic Video Anal Facial DP 2008 4 DRO Not Bewitched XXX Adam & Eve Facial 2008 10 DR Oral Supremacy Shane's World BJOnly Facial 2006 5 DRO Performers of the Year Elegant Angel Productions Anal Facial A2M 2008 8 DRO Pirates II: Stagnetti's Revenge Digital Playground CumSwap 2008 7 DR POV Blowjobs Loaded Digital BJOnly 2008 DRO POV Centerfolds 7 Zero Tolerance Anal Facial A2M 2008 1 DRO Private Fetish 1: House of Sex and Domination Private Anal Facial A2M IR 2008 2 DRO Pure Adam & Eve 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Degree 2008 1 DRO Squirt Facials Elegant Angel Productions Anal Facial Swallow 2007 DRO Squirt Gangbang 1 Elegant Angel Productions LezOnly IR 2007 6 DRO Stimula Teravision Facial 2007 5 DRO Strap Attack 6 Evil Angel 2007 3 DRO Strip Tease Then Fuck 10 Zero Tolerance Facial 2008 2 DRO Suburban Sex Party 1 Hush Hush Entertainment Anal Facial A2M DVDOnly 2007 1 DRO Suck It Dry 3 Evil Angel BJOnly Facial 2007 3 DRO Swallow My Children Metro BJOnly Facial Swallow 2007 1 DRO Swallow My Squirt 4 Elegant Angel Productions Anal Facial 2006 7 DRO Swallow My Squirt 5 Elegant Angel Productions Anal Facial CumSwap A2M DVDOnly 2007 7 DRO Swallow This 12 North Star 2008 DRO Teenage Anal Princess 5 Anabolic Video Anal Facial Swallow A2M 2006 1 DRO Teenage Heartbreakers 1 3rd Degree Anal Facial DP Swallow A2M 2006 1 DRO Teenage Peach Fuzz 3 Red Light District Anal Facial IR 2006 6 DRO Teenage Whores 2 Pure Play Media Facial 2007 1 DRO Teenage Whores 3 Pure Play Media Facial 2008 1 DRO Teenstravaganza 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- If we can verify this information to a reliable source, it certainly ought to be included, but probably in a separate Filmography of Sasha Grey article rather than here for space reasons. Regards, Skomorokh 16:16, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
- There is no need to start a new page or add her filmography to her entry as there is already a link to IAFD providing a comprehensive record of her work. Now if we could just clean this page of all non-encyclopedic material. Submitted in good faith, Spoogeflinger99 02:40, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
I have added citations in this article (some of which were valid but removed). I merged the Penthouse info to adult career, and James Jean/Choe to modelling, and renamed Beginnings in pornography to Adult Career as it wouldn't have left much room for future information in any of the other sections.
I also changed " where she held a 3.8 grade average in her junior year" from "in her junior year" as this is an article that is full of misquotes and subtext from the author, again not fact. I have discussed this matter with moderators here when information from this article was originally submitted. Mods feel free to contact me regarding this matter if needed.
As mentioned above in the "engaged to marry" I changed the "engagement date" as I have spoken about the engagement prior to the article see interview: http://www.rogreviews.com/interviews/sasha_grey_07.asp
As far as the awards mentioned within the article being redundant, these are unique facts (eg: youngest man to win a superbowl, youngest man to be president).
Opinions are welcome in this discussion, as are tags to "unverifiable information" within the article.Madjabuds (talk) 04:43, 16 February 2009 (UTC)Madjabuds
Re: "A Star is Porn" article - if the article is full of misquotes and subtext from the author (regarding Gary, Indiana and GPA), consideration should be put into taking it down. Again, with the writer, photographer, performance/transgressive artist claims. It's ridiculous how poorly moderated this article is despite all the discussion. Look, Sasha is welcome to fancy herself as such, but this is for encyclopedic, unbiased information. Nabulzi (talk) 07:45, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
Please check the external links. Two of them contain hardcore pornography
pornvalleynews.com and xrentdvd.com contain hardcore pornographic pictures. (On xrentdvd.com you have to click an "I'm over 18" button first in order to see the pictures in the article) Please remove those links from Wikipedia. --84.177.242.228 (talk) 19:27, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
- Wikipedia is not censored. Morbidthoughts (talk) 20:42, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
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