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This page is for nominations to appear in the "Did you know" section on the Main Page.

Purge

Instructions

Using a DYK suggestion string (see below examples), list new suggestions in the candidate entries section below under the date the article was created or the expansion began (not the date you submit it here), with the newest dates at the top. Any user may nominate a DYK suggestion; self-nominations are permitted and encouraged. Thanks for participating and please remember to check back for comments on your nomination.

DYK criteria

Official criteria: DYK rules and additional guidelines
Unofficial Guide: Learning DYK

Sample DYK suggestion strings

Please use one of the strings below to post your DYK nomination, using the "author" and "nominator" fields to identify the users who should receive credit for their contributions if the hook is featured on the main page.

  1. Nom without image: {{subst:NewDYKnom | article= | hook=... that ? | author= }}
  2. Nom with image: {{subst:NewDYKnom | article= | hook=... that ? | author= | image= | caption= }}
    To include more than one new or expanded article in a single hook: |article2= |article3= |article4= | (etc)
    To include more than one author: |author2= |author3= | (etc)
    To include alternate hooks: |ALT1= |ALT2= | (etc)
    To add a comment: |comment=
    To add the article you reviewed: |reviewed=

Do not wikilink the article title, or the author username field; the template will wikilink them automatically. Do wikilink the article title in the hook field, however.
Do not add a section heading if you are using the template; the template will add one for you.
Do not include a signature (~~~~) after the template.
Do not use non-free images in your hook suggestion.

An example of how to use the template is given below. Full details are at {{NewDYKnom}}: 

{{subst:NewDYKnom
 | article       = Example
 | hook          = ... that this [[article]] is an '''[[example]]''' ''(pictured)''?
 | author        = User
 | nominator     =
 | image         = Example.png
 | rollover      = An example image
 | comment       =
}}
  • Note that you should only use one of the above templates for the original hook. If you want to suggest a second, alternative hook for the same article submission, just type it in manually. The above templates output useful code for each submission and if you employ them for alternative hooks, you will mess up the page formatting.
  • When saving your suggestion, please add the name of the suggested article to your edit summary.
  • Please check back for comments on your nomination. Responding to reasonable objections will help ensure that your article is listed.
  • If you nominate someone else's article, you can use {{subst:DYKNom}} to notify them. Usage: {{subst:DYKNom|Article name|January 10}} Thanks, ~~~~

Symbols

If you want to confirm that an article is ready to be placed on a later update, or that there is an issue with the article or hook, you may use the following symbols (optional) to point the issues out:

Symbol Code DYK Ready? Description
{{subst:DYKtick}} Yes No problems, ready for DYK
{{subst:DYKtickAGF}} Yes Article is ready for DYK, with a foreign-language or offline hook reference accepted in good faith
{{subst:DYK?}} Query DYK eligibility requires that an issue be addressed. Notify nominator with {{subst:DYKproblem|Article}}
{{subst:DYK?no}} Maybe DYK eligibility requires additional work. Notify nominator with {{subst:DYKproblem|Article}}
{{subst:DYKno}} No Article is either completely ineligible, or else requires considerable work before becoming eligible

Please consider using {{subst:DYKproblem}} on the user's talk page, in case they do not notice if there is an issue.

Backlogged?

This page often seems to be backlogged. If the DYK template has not been updated for substantially more than 6 hours, it may be useful to attract the attention of one of the administrators who regularly updates the template. See the page Wikipedia:Did you know/Admins for a list of administrators who have volunteered to help with this project.

Where is my hook?

If you can't find the hook you submitted to this page, in most cases it means your article has been approved and is in the queue for display on the main page. You can check whether your hook has been moved to the queue by reviewing the queue listings.

If your hook is not in the queue or already on the main page, it has probably been deleted. Deletion occurs if the hook is more than about eight days old and has unresolved issues for which any discussion has gone stale. If you think your hook has been unfairly deleted, you can query its deletion on the discussion page, but as a general rule deleted hooks will only be restored in exceptional circumstances.

Candidate entries

Articles created/expanded on March 4

Walter L. Bragg

Created by Wehwalt (talk). Self nom at 02:02, 4 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on March 3

HMA No. 1

File:HMA 1 (Mayfly).jpg
  • ... that HMA No. 1 Mayfly, Britain's first rigid airship, was destroyed by winds on 24 September 1911 before she could attempt her first flight?

Created by Red Sunset (talk). Self nom at 23:34, 3 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Camponotus vagus

Created/expanded by Schuym1 (talk). Nominated by Boston (talk) at 22:53, 3 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Faryl

Created by J Milburn (talk). Self nom at 19:47, 3 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

SS Merion

Created by Bellhalla (talk). Self nom at 19:09, 3 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Wendel Dietterlin

  • ... that the architectural designs of Mannerist painter and printmaker Wendel Dietterlin (d. 1599) have been characterized as a "bizarre ornamental fantasy"? (Needs a bit more work, but I don't have the time right now. Perhaps good enough for DYK. There are many potential illustrations, but I don't know how well they work on a small scale.) Self-nom. --Hegvald (talk) 19:03, 3 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Flat needlefish

  • ... that although it is considered a gamefish, flat needlefish are seldom eaten because of their green-colored flesh?

Created/expanded by ryan shell (talk). Self nom at 17:56, 3 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I've been looking for some pictures but i cant find any. maybe someone will add some later on. Ryan shell (talk) 20:21, 3 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Leptotrombidium

5x expanded by Gak (talk). Nominated by Carlossuarez46 (talk) at 17:49, 3 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • As a lay reader, I have no idea what this mean...I assume vector means "carrier" but I'm not sure. Please reword the hook to be more accessible and interesting to non-specialists. Linking "vector" (I assume to vector (biology)) would help, but I think more rewording would also be good. Also, on the side, should the genus name be italicized? rʨanaɢ talk/contribs 18:14, 3 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • I didn't look at this before, but right now the article's not long enough; an article for DYK has to be at least 1500 prose characters (not counting references, formatting, etc; the easiest way to count it is to use User:Dr pda/prosesize.js.
  • Assuming you guys can expand it a bit, I still think the hook is a bit confusing (personally, I don't know the difference between a carrier and a vector, and if I don't know then I imagine most of the dumb dumbs reading the main page won't either), and would suggest the following truncated version:
  • ALT2: ... that mites of the genus Leptotrombidium are carriers of Orientia tsutsugamushi, the germ that causes scrub typhus? rʨanaɢ talk/contribs 18:50, 3 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Ariel Meredith

  • ... that after winning a 500-contestant modeling competition at age 14, fashion model Ariel Meredith was contacted by thirty-two prospective clients?

Created by TonyTheTiger (talk). Self nom at 17:19, 3 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Overland Trail (Yukon)

Created by JKBrooks85 (talk). Self nom at 13:35, 3 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]


John Thomas North

John Thomas North
John Thomas North

Gao Chongwen

  • ... that the Tang Dynasty general Gao Chongwen asked to be moved from his post at Chengdu as he was illiterate and disliked the paperwork involved with governing a prosperous city?

Created by Nlu (talk). Self nom at 12:56, 3 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Mantis in Lace

Created/expanded by Boston (talk). Self nom at 12:45, 3 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Jaydev Kenduli

Template:DYKsuggestion at 11:26, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

Society and culture of the Han Dynasty

Created by PericlesofAthens (talk). Self nom at 07:37, 3 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • I used Hulsewé (1986), "Ch'in and Han law," in The Cambridge History of China: Volume I: the Ch'in and Han Empires, 221 B.C. – A.D. 220, 520-544. Edited by Denis Twitchett and Michael Loewe. Cambridge: Cambridge University Press. ISBN 0521243270, pages 524–525, to cite this particular fact.--Pericles of AthensTalk 07:38, 3 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Jonathan Krohn

5x expanded by Hunter Kahn (talk). Self nom at 05:29, 3 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • I always find "wide acclaim" unless you are specific and provide further explanation directly after. Since there obviously isn't any room for that here, I prefer my alt hook more.=- Mgm|(talk) 18:45, 3 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Phyllodontosuchus

Created by J. Spencer (talk). Self nom at 04:45, 3 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Henry Fielding's early plays and 15 others

Created by User:Ottava Rima, User:NuclearWarfare, User:PeterSymonds, User:NocturneNoir, User:Res2216firestar, and User:Hassocks5489. Self nom at 03:41, 3 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • Already discussed that in chat a month and some ago. And you were there and worked on many of the stuff at the very beginning. The only way to split it would be to go by year, which would have four semi-boring items that would also put too much weight to Fielding. Ottava Rima (talk) 04:23, 3 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • All 16 lengths, dates verified. Since hook is based from the first article, the hook is verified IGF. I agree that while 16 hooks is a lot, this fits together nicely. Perhaps, however:
  • Agree with NuclearWarfare. Have added a png image to the article infobox so it will match with the hook. Also it will then be guaranteed to be first in queue, getting the most exposure.--Doug Coldwell talk 23:25, 3 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Robert Bruce (wrestler)

Created by Canley (talk). Self nom at 01:31, 3 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Peninsular Gneiss

Created/expanded by Nvvchar (talk). Self nom at 01:06, 3 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on March 2

=The Mutiny Acts

5x expanded by Jumpinbean (talk). Self nom at 4 March 2009 (UTC)

Judson C. Clements

5x expanded by Wehwalt (talk). Self nom at 23:27, 3 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Surinamese legislative election, 2005

5x expanded by Davewild (talk). Self nom at 19:41, 3 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Ski jumping at the FIS Nordic World Ski Championships 2009

File:4wiki wsc09 sjlnh.jpg

Created by Miller17CU94 (talk). Self nom at 16:23, 3 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Nordic combined at the FIS Nordic World Ski Championships 2009

Created by Miller17CU94 (talk). Self nom at 15:38, 3 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Cross-country skiing at the FIS Nordic World Ski Championships 2009

Created by Miller17CU94 (talk). Self nom at 14:23, 3 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Michelito Lagravere

Created by Fizzmeister (talk). Nominated by MacGyverMagic (talk) at 11:52, 3 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

List of Law & Order: Criminal Intent episodes

5x expanded by Matthewedwards (talk). Self nom at 08:11, 3 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Knights of the Royal Oak

Created by Geaugagrrl (talk). Self nom at 04:16, 3 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Air Cadet League of Canada

  • ... that the Belt of Orion Award, for organizations that have advanced aviation in Canada, was bestowed upon the Air Cadet League of Canada (logo pictured) in 1989?

5x expanded by Tartarus (talk). Self nom at 00:51, 3 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Boris Eikhenbaum

5x expanded by DVD R W (talk). Self nom at 21:52, 2 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It means, "significant." Would that sound better or should the adjective just be omitted? Thanks, DVD 23:42, 2 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

GRB 970508

Created by Cryptic C62 (talk). Self nom at 21:23, 2 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Percy Tait

Template:DYKsuggestion Thruxton (talk) 20:36, 2 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

End of the World (1931 film)

5x expanded by Andrzejbanas (talk). Self nom at 19:13, 2 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]


David of Basra

Created by Gonzonoir (talk). Self nom at 13:48, 2 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

William Mylne

  • ... that architect and engineer William Mylne fled to North America following the collapse of his North Bridge in Edinburgh in 1772, but later returned and ran the Dublin Water Works for 15 years?

Created by Jonathan Oldenbuck (talk). Self nom at 13:35, 2 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]


John Nies

Created/expanded by Boston (talk). Self nom at 13:03, 2 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

John H. Marble

Created by Wehwalt (talk). Self nom at 09:14, 2 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Pixiv

Created by Juhachi (talk). Self nom at 09:10, 2 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

James Billings

Created by nrswanson (talk). Self nom at 04:16, 2 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Jonathan Alder

Created/expanded by Adolphus79 (talk). Self nom at 02:57, 2 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Loihi Seamount

5x expanded by Resident Mario (talk). Self nom at 01:37, 2 March 2009 (UTC) [reply]

Ah, I wasn't quite sure it was 5x. Is there a tool for counting this? Anyway, give me a day or so to further it (only used up 2 days used up so far ;) ResMar 18:45, 2 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
This explains the tool and this explains when to use it. Art LaPella (talk) 20:22, 2 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
As far as I understand, it only counts article length, not amount of expansion per diff. SOmeone should make a tool that auto-finds from diffs how much was added, is what I meant. ResMar 22:14, 2 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Now 4.65 and counting. ResMar 00:12, 3 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
The DYKcheck tool gives a date for when the article was at one-fifth its current prose with one click. If the start of expansion date isn't within the past few days it'll show up as a red flag. Shubinator (talk) 01:47, 3 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Prose size (text only): 10453 B (1638 words) "readable prose size" and 5.02 on Calculator. Good enough? ResMar 01:56, 3 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Looks good, but one really minor thing – the article says the summit depth is 968 meters, but the reference says 969 meters. And the hook says 968 feet. Also, do people know what Mt. St. Helens is? I've lived in that area for a while, so I shouldn't be the one to judge, but I'm not sure most people even in the US know. Well, I guess if it's wikilinked people can just follow the link to find out more. Great job on the expansion! Shubinator (talk) 00:22, 4 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Richard C. Mangrum

LtGen Richard C. Mangrum, Assistant Commandant of the Marine Corps (1965-1967)
LtGen Richard C. Mangrum, Assistant Commandant of the Marine Corps (1965-1967)

Created/expanded by ERcheck (talk). Self nom at 00:40, 2 March 2009 (UTC) [reply]

John K. Tener

5x expanded by Tasty Poutine (talk). Self nom at 00:17, 2 March 2009 (UTC) [reply]

Five Fingers

new article by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 17:21, 3 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on March 1

Yakub Hasan Sait

Created/expanded by Ravichandar84 (talk). Self nom at 07:33, 3 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]


T. S. S. Rajan

Created/expanded by Ravichandar84 (talk). Self nom at 07:30, 3 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]


List of Detroit Tigers Opening Day starting pitchers, Josh Billings (pitcher)

Created by Rlendog (talk). Self nom at 01:41, 3 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Charles Patrick Daly

Created by Rosiestep (talk). Self nom at 01:09, 3 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Scheduled Monuments in Cheshire (1066-1539)

Woodhey cross Barrow cross Sutton Cross

Beeston Castle Halton Castle

Espresso Addict (talk) 11:33, 3 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Rhena Schweitzer Miller, David C. Miller

5x expanded by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 20:01, 2 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Indrella ampulla

Created by Invertzoo (talk), Snek01 (talk). Self nom at 14:55, 2 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Wu Yuanji

  • ... that, believing that his staff member Yang Yuanqing had betrayed him, the Tang Dynasty warlord Wu Yuanji executed Yang's wife and four sons and used their blood to paint the archery range?

Created by Nlu (talk). Self nom at 05:19, 2 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Waking the Dead (novel)

Created by Hunter Kahn (talk). Self nom at 04:54, 2 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Olorgesailie

  • ... that abundant handaxes about 900,000 years old found at Olorgesailie in southern Kenya were used for animal butchering?

Created by Clarityfiend (talk). Nominated by Julia Rossi (talk) at 02:45, 2 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Peter of Aigueblanche

5x expanded by [[User:{{{author}}}|{{{author}}}]] ([[User talk:{{{author}}}|talk]]). Nominated by Ealdgyth (talk) at 01:18, 2 March 2009 (UTC) [reply]

Richard C. Mangrum

LtGen Richard C. Mangrum, Assistant Commandant of the Marine Corps (1965-1967)
LtGen Richard C. Mangrum, Assistant Commandant of the Marine Corps (1965-1967)

Created/expanded by ERcheck (talk). Self nom at 00:40, 2 March 2009 (UTC) [reply]

John K. Tener

5x expanded by Tasty Poutine (talk). Self nom at 00:17, 2 March 2009 (UTC) [reply]

Samuel Brand

Created/expanded by S h i v a (Visnu) (talk). Self nom at 23:31, 1 March 2009 (UTC) [reply]


Common stingray

Common stingray (Dasyatis pastinaca)
Common stingray (Dasyatis pastinaca)

Created by Yzx (talk). Nominated by Hassocks5489 (talk) at 23:15, 1 March 2009 (UTC) [reply]

Smith Clove Meetinghouse

Two possibilities:

Hurricane Howard (2004)

Created by Cyclonebiskit (talk). Self nom at 19:55, 1 March 2009 (UTC) [reply]


East Layton, Utah

Former East Layton city offices
Former East Layton city offices

Created/expanded by Ntsimp (talk). Self nom at 16:48, 1 March 2009 (UTC) [reply]

Hobcaw Barony

Terrace of Hobcaw Barony
Terrace of Hobcaw Barony

Created by KudzuVine (talk). Self nom at 14:19, 1 March 2009 (UTC) [reply]

List of Dexter awards and nominations

Created/expanded by Music2611 (talk). Self nom at 13:12, 1 March 2009 (UTC) [reply]


Bruce A. Evans

Created by 97198 (talk). Self nom at 12:56, 1 March 2009 (UTC) [reply]

Mongolian presidential election, 2005

5x expanded by Davewild (talk). Self nom at 12:28, 1 March 2009 (UTC) [reply]


Orlando Plummer

Created by Aboutmovies (talk). Self nom at 12:09, 1 March 2009 (UTC) [reply]

Return to Sender (Dexter)

Created by 97198 (talk). Self nom at 07:43, 1 March 2009 (UTC) [reply]

Michał Belina Czechowski

Created by NorthernFalcon (talk). Self nom at 07:30, 1 March 2009 (UTC) [reply]

System of a Down discography

  • ... that System of a Down is the first band since The Beatles to release two chart-topping debuts in the United States in the same year?

5x expanded by Cannibaloki (talk). Self nom at 07:01, 1 March 2009 (UTC) [reply]

  • The prose has not been expanded 5x. I can't tell when this expansion started since it's gone on for a while. Even from January 26 to now, it's a 2511/828 = 3.1x expansion. Shubinator (talk) 07:29, 1 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Ken May

5x expanded by pd_THOR (talk). Self nom at 06:59, 1 March 2009 (UTC) [reply]


Stac Dhomnuill Chaim

Created by Celtus (talk). Self nom at 06:57, 1 March 2009 (UTC) [reply]

Jean Desbouvrie

An example image
An example image

Created by Durova (talk). Self nom at 06:55, 1 March 2009 (UTC) [reply]

  • I can read too little of ref 5 to be entirely positive, but based on a Durova's track record, I'd be happy to assume good faith. The rest checks out without problems. - Mgm|(talk) 12:10, 3 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Oops! Yes, that was obviously a typo. Sorry. - Mgm|(talk) 19:16, 3 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Eric Blau

5x expanded by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 05:34, 1 March 2009 (UTC) [reply]

Roscoe Ates

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 23:02, 1 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]



Articles created/expanded on February 28

Mahmood Hussein Mattan

Template:DYKsuggestion

Sofia (Swedish singer)

  • ... that Swedish singer Sofia Berntson entered Sweden's Melodifestivalen with the Greek song "Alla" and won the international jury vote for her semi-final?

Created by Grk1011 (talk), Lewisrees (talk). Nominated by Grk1011 (talk) at 18:21, 2 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

French Pass

Created by WavyGeek (talk), Geronimo20 (talk). Nominated by Geronimo20 (talk) at 05:37, 2 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]


La princesse jaune

Created by nrswanson (talk). Self nom at 03:41, 2 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Le timbre d’argent

Created by nrswanson (talk). Self nom at 02:01, 2 March 2009 (UTC) [reply]

William G. Hare

Created by Aboutmovies (talk). Self nom at 12:07, 1 March 2009 (UTC) [reply]

Don Chafin

Created by Cool3 (talk). Self nom at 23:23, 28 February 2009 (UTC) [reply]

No. 40 Wing RAF

  • ... that No. 40 Wing RAF (DH.9 aircraft pictured) was credited with destroying the bulk of the Turkish Seventh Army through sustained air attack during the Battle of Armageddon in 1918?

Created by Ian Rose (talk). Self nom at 23:21, 28 February 2009 (UTC) [reply]

Balla Fasséké

Created by Download (talk). Self nom at 22:49, 28 February 2009 (UTC) [reply]


Patrick Henry Jones

Created by 72.74.202.70 (talk). Nominated by User:Akradecki (talk) at 22:03, 28 February 2009 (UTC) [reply]

Lord Chancellor's Department

Edgar E. Clark

Created by Wehwalt (talk). Self nom at 19:37, 28 February 2009 (UTC) [reply]

Frank Hodges (trade unionist)

Template:DYKsuggestion

  • Date, length and reference for hook verified. Except I am not sure about the "impromptu" part. Was it "impromptu" or can that be assumed? Since a "huge crowd turned out", it must have been known in advance. —Mattisse (Talk) 01:55, 4 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Geer tube

Created by Maury Markowitz (talk). Self nom at 19:28, 28 February 2009 (UTC) [reply]


Triumph Bonneville T140

Template:DYKsuggestion Thruxton (talk) 19:13, 28 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Charles A. Prouty

Created by Wehwalt (talk). Self nom at 18:18, 28 February 2009 (UTC) [reply]

Regenbald

Created by Ealdgyth (talk). Self nom at 15:14, 28 February 2009 (UTC) [reply]

Allan Quartermaine

* Length and date verified. Accept on good faith the source for the hook, as the SUPPLEMENT TO THE LONDON GAZETTE, 3 JUNE, 191 given as reference does not say why the names are on the listings. —Mattisse (Talk) 01:44, 4 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

1973 New York City bomb plot

Created by Joshdboz (talk). Self nom at 13:23, 28 February 2009 (UTC) [reply]

Suggest the word "Palestinian" be added before terrorist, otherwise it might be thought that it was some sort of precursor of Saddam Hussein.--Wehwalt (talk) 18:31, 28 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
That is a possibility - I was thinking of some of the DYK's I'd seen last April Fools, where the statement is technically true, though it leads one to immediately think of something else, in this case the supposed (proved false) allegations that Iraq was connected to 9/11. Joshdboz (talk) 19:22, 28 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Not a game we want to play, I suspect. Suggest you either put in the word in the hook or rename the article to include that. Though I hate the thought of you getting buried by I-P conflict partisans. I'm open to other possibilities, but as it stands, it is a bit misleading.--Wehwalt (talk) 19:54, 28 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
PLEASE add a year in the hook! Circeus (talk) 21:17, 28 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • The nationality of the individual involved is unclear, according to the sources for this article. There is an allusion of Palestinian and also that he was from Iraq. Black September is referred to in the sources, but none of the Black September articles on wiki refer to this. I am confused. Please clarify. —Mattisse (Talk) 04:15, 2 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Les Harris (businessman)

Template:DYKsuggestion Thruxton (talk) 13:18, 28 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Muir's Corella

Created by Maias (talk). Self nom at 12:34, 28 February 2009 (UTC) [reply]

  • Length and time frame verified. Have to accept web references on good faith, as looking through the maze of articles at the reference web site do not clearly indicate what the situation is regarding pest v. rare hook. —Mattisse (Talk) 04:01, 2 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Alpirod

  • ... that the Alpirod, a 1,000 kilometres (621 mi) European sled dog race, was the longest competition of its kind outside of North America?

Created by JKBrooks85 (talk). Self nom at 10:45, 28 February 2009 (UTC) [reply]

  • Length verified. Date verified as February 27. Offline source accepted on good faith. SUGGESTION: Since the race is defunct, the hook should mention that the race no longer exists. —Mattisse (Talk) 01:37, 4 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Arthur MacDonald

Created by Abraham, B.S. (talk). Self nom at 09:29, 28 February 2009 (UTC) [reply]

Comment very nice, but most generals serve for a long time, it usually takes a career to become one. Can you put in something that he did that will interest the reader?--Wehwalt (talk) 19:55, 28 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
ALT1: ... that General Sir Arthur MacDonald's forty-year career in the Australian Army included service during the Second World War, Korean War and Vietnam War, and culminated in his appointment as Chief of the Defence Force Staff? Abraham, B.S. (talk) 22:46, 28 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Suggest "culminated" might be a bit stronger than "resulted"... Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 23:11, 28 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Substituted in. Cheers, Abraham, B.S. (talk) 23:45, 28 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

243 Ida

5x expanded by Wronkiew (talk), Reyk (talk). Nominated by Reyk (talk) at 08:13, 28 February 2009 (UTC) [reply]

Nothing To My Name

Created by Rjanag (talk). Self nom at 07:59, 28 February 2009 (UTC) [reply]

1999 PBA All-Filipino Cup

Created by Howard the Duck (talk). Self nom at 04:43, 28 February 2009 (UTC) [reply]

ALT1 ... that a bench-clearing brawl in Game 2 of the semifinals series between the Shell Turbo Chargers and the Barangay Ginebra Kings in the 1999 PBA All-Filipino Cup generated near-record fines for the league?--Wehwalt (talk) 19:57, 28 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Elmer Lach

5x expanded by Maxim (talk). Self nom at 02:35, 28 February 2009 (UTC) [reply]

Líder

  • ... that Chilean Líder supermarkets sold Cuban rum at half price to eliminate it from stock in anticipation of becoming a Wal-Mart subsidiary, causing a controversy in Chile?

self created/self-nomTroyster87 (talk) 23:14, 2 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

How about this image then?Troyster87 (talk) 02:04, 4 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Dominic of Evesham

Created by Ealdgyth (talk). Self nom at 01:51, 28 February 2009 (UTC) [reply]

Marginally better hook suggestion! —Mattisse (Talk) 01:29, 4 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Griff

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk) 22:35, 28 February 2009 (UTC) Nominated by User:Billy Hathorn (User talk:Billy Hathorn) at 22:03, 28 February 2009 (UTC) [reply]


Christian music festival

Created by DantheCowMan (talk). Nominated by Piotrus (talk) at 18:25, 2 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on February 27

Guy de Beauchamp, 10th Earl of Warwick

Guy de Beauchamp standing over the decapitated body of Piers Gaveston. From the 15th-century Rous Rolls.
Guy de Beauchamp standing over the decapitated body of Piers Gaveston. From the 15th-century Rous Rolls.

5x expanded by Lampman (talk). Self nom at 01:32, 2 March 2009 (UTC) [reply]

Dominican general election, 2005

5x expanded by Davewild (talk). Self nom at 12:09, 28 February 2009 (UTC) [reply]

Comment Maybe mention Charles and her support of the US, esp regarding invasion of Grenada?--Wehwalt (talk) 19:59, 28 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think much of that has relevance to the election itself, so as the hook facts have to be included in the Dominican general election, 2005 article don't think it can be included in the hook, however a possible alternative to mention the previous Prime Minister is:
ALT1 ... that the Dominica Freedom Party of former Prime Minister Eugenia Charles failed to win any seats in the 2005 Dominican general election for the first time in 35 years? Davewild (talk) 20:41, 28 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Fine by me.--Wehwalt (talk) 20:45, 28 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Will Sessoms

Created by TonyTheTiger (talk). Self nom at 05:41, 28 February 2009 (UTC) [reply]


Balch Hotel

  • ... that the brick walls in the historic Balch Hotel in Dufur, Oregon, are 18-inches thick and keep the hotel’s interior rooms cool during the hot summer months?

Created by Orygun (talk). Self nom at 04:32, 28 February 2009 (UTC) [reply]

Henry Wrigley

Created by Ian Rose (talk). Self nom at 23:30, 27 February 2009 (UTC) [reply]

London to Lewes Way (Roman road)

Created by Charlesdrakew (talk). Self nom at 23:11, 27 February 2009 (UTC) [reply]

Mannie Garcia

Created by Sixpackbuzz (talk). Self nom at 22:22, 27 February 2009 (UTC) [reply]



Permanent Secretary to the Lord Chancellor's Office

Red triangle slug

  • ... that the largest native land slug species in Australia is the red triangle slug, which can be yellow, cream, pink, red, grey or olive green (pictured)?

Created by Invertzoo (talk), Snek01 (talk). Self nom at 15:31, 27 February 2009 (UTC) [reply]

Viper's Creed

  • ... that Viper's Creed's creation and production was led by Shinji Aramaki, despite being named as the chief director and not the show's main director?


OR

Created by Ominae (talk). Self nom at 12:44, 27 February 2009 (UTC) [reply]

Thanks for the explanation here, but readers of the main page will still be clueless after reading your hook there if it is used as is. --74.13.130.165 (talk) 03:40, 28 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
If you want, I'll try and suggest an alternate. Ominae (talk) 04:41, 28 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

ALT HOOK: ... that Viper's Creed was created by Shinji Aramaki, who was not named as the show's director? Ominae (talk) 04:46, 28 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Jones reductor

Created by Petergans (talk). Self nom at 09:07, 27 February 2009 (UTC) [reply]

Not All Dogs Go to Heaven

Created by Matthewedwards (talk). Self nom at 09:01, 27 February 2009 (UTC) [reply]

Ross Memorial Park and Alexandre Stadium

Created/expanded by User:Jwilkinsen (talk). Self nom at 08:32, 27 February 2009 (UTC) [reply]

  • Comment: Two refs for this fact: "Ross Memorial Park/Alexandre Stadium". Washington & Jefferson College.Phil, Axelrod (2004-04-21). "District Roundup: Cal coach candidate for new job". Pittsburgh Post Gazette. PG Publishing Co., Inc. {{cite news}}: Cite has empty unknown parameter: |coauthors= (help)</ref>Jwilkinsen (talk) 08:32, 27 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Arie Posin

  • ... that film director Arie Posin's father did not allow him to watch television as a child despite being a professional filmmaker himself?

Created by 97198 (talk). Self nom at 07:02, 27 February 2009 (UTC) [reply]

Eliminating the coonection assumed by "despite" and making another link would give: "... that film director Arie Posin's father, a professional filmmaker, did not allow him to watch television as a child?" --Wetman (talk) 15:56, 27 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Drosera zonaria

Created by Rkitko (talk). Self nom at 04:06, 27 February 2009 (UTC) [reply]

  • All members of the genus Drosera are carnivorous. I figured that was common knowledge enough that it doesn't require a citation. As I've been creating these short articles for Drosera species, I've not been mentioning their carnivory for the same reason (a topic best dealt with on the genus article). I can, however, try to work a mention of it into the lead... --Rkitko (talk) 22:10, 27 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Ranga Ediriwickrama

Created by Reyk (talk). Self nom at 03:23, 27 February 2009 (UTC) [reply]

Harts of the West

Articles created/expanded on February 26

Hans Herbert Fiedler

Created by nrswanson (talk). Self nom at 03:53, 2 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hans von Milde

Created by nrswanson (talk). Self nom at 01:33, 2 March 2009 (UTC) [reply]

  • Article length and date verified. Reference not verified as neither the article nor the source directly say that he sang for nearly "forty" years. Perhaps if I added and subtracted enough, I could figure it out. —Mattisse (Talk) 02:47, 3 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Its simple mathematics. Both references say he began his career in Weimar in 1845 and sang there until his retirement in 1884 (i.e. 39 years). That's not original research saying he sang there for almost 40 years.Nrswanson (talk) 03:13, 3 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Please have pity on the rest of us. The hook should be clear in the article and be clearly referenced. Do I want to read every article with a microscope? No. You may be very involved with the article and it may be clear to you, but to the general reader that is not the case. Why put us through gymnastics when the rules state that the hook should be referenced after the sentence, even if it means repeating the reference again a sentence later? I am perfectly willing to avoid your articles, if that is your choice. I will widthdraw from further involvement with this article. —Mattisse (Talk) 04:25, 3 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • The second sentence in the article's lead has the first part of the hook directly in it ("He sang for almost four decades at the opera house in Weimar") and the last sentence of the article's lead has the bit about the High Priest role ("He sang in several other notable premieres, including singing the role of the High Priest in the first stage performance of Camille Saint-Saëns's Samson et Dalila in 1877"). The information in the hook is also stated elsewhere in the article and there are citations throughout the article. I don't think the hook is at all confusing or the information difficult to find for a casual reader in the article. I notice that you have made similar comments about not being able to find the hook in other articles in other reviews you have made. When I have gone to those same articles I have often found the hook content. You tend to not find the hooks that pull together information from multiple places in the article or that state the same information using different language. You should remember that hooks don't have to be rooted in a particular paragraph or sentence in the article, although they often are. Sometimes the better and more interesting hooks pull from facts in different places within the article, drawing a logical conclusion that isn't original synthesis (i.e. involving simple math, etc.). To verify those hooks, however, you must read carefully and not just skim. I appriciate all the obvious hard work you are putting in at DYK but you may consider putting in a little more time into reading article submissions carefully then trying to crank out a ton of reviews as quickly as possible. Also, while DYK policy is to have citations after the hook information, often times seasoned DYK reviewers are ok with a single citation at the end of the paragraph or a sentence or two later if it is obvious that the content comes from the same source. You may want to consider the spirit of the law a bit more than the letter of the law. That being said, I don't mind you reviewing my articles at all, but I will express my opinion if we come into an area of conflict. There is nothing personal about it. Cheers and best of luck with all your endeavors at wikipedia. Nrswanson (talk) 05:43, 3 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Re above, WP:TLDR. The general reader should not have to perform gymnastics to find the source and should not have to pull together multiple sources and essentially perform OR. Remember, DYK's are for general reader, and we are trying to set an example by having proper sourcing. There was a "unwritten rule", perhaps written now, that the hook should be in the lead. There is a rule that the hook should have a reference at the end of it. Art Pella has stated that even if this means referencing two sentences in a row, nevertheless, the hook must be referenced. —Mattisse (Talk) 18:15, 3 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • (outdent) Here is the simple solution:
  • ALT1 ... that baritone Hans von Milde sang for nearly forty years (1845–1884) at the Staatskapelle Weimar?
  • Now on to discussing the other issues. 1) I have removed the bit about Samson and Delilah because it seems rather arbitrary; is this particular opera more notable or special than the rest? Even if it is, it's awkward to work into the hook. 2) Even though it's verifiable, the fact that he sang 40 years might not be super eye-catching. It is a pretty long time...but is there anything better to use as a hook? 3) The reference for when he retired is a slight issue. I assume it is ref #1, which appears at the end of the paragraph, but it isn't actually obvious that all the information in that paragraph is from the same ref. (The topic changes from von Milde's retirement to later biographies and stuff.) This is an instance where it actually is better to duplicate the reference. Especially with foreign-language sources, too much redundancy is better than possible confusion about where information came from. rʨanaɢ talk/contribs 18:33, 3 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Actually both sources could be used to substantiate the hook above (they both give the same years, etc), and yes Samson et Dalila is a very famous opera. I personally think that those into opera would be more interested in the original longer hook. I will go ahead and cite the four decades now.Nrswanson (talk) 19:40, 3 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Southgate, West Sussex

5x expanded by Hassocks5489 (talk). Self nom at 18:11, 1 March 2009 (UTC) [reply]

Ignace Peter VII Jarweh

  • ... that Rome needed eight years to confirm the election of Peter Jarweh as Patriarch of the Syrian Catholic Church because he'd received funds from Protestant missionaries to buy a printing press?

Created by A ntv (talk). Self nom at 15:47, 28 February 2009 (UTC) [reply]

  • Article date and length verified. A little confused over reference for hook, as the online source seems to say 11 years transpired before he was confirmed, although my French is not excellent. —Mattisse (Talk) 02:40, 3 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Australodelphis

Created by kevmin (talk). Self nom at 19:45, 27 February 2009 (UTC) [reply]

  • (Changed "in whales" to "with whales" per source wording) Technically, the species, not the genus, is cited as the example in the source. Length, ref (via abstract on Cambridge web site), history, etc. verified. CB...(ö) 05:37, 28 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Tualatin River National Wildlife Refuge

5x expanded by Aboutmovies (talk). Self nom at 09:08, 27 February 2009 (UTC) [reply]

ASEAN Treaty of Amity and Cooperation

Seal of ASEAN
Seal of ASEAN

Created/expanded by Joriki (talk). Nominated by 23prootie (talk) at 03:26, 27 February 2009 (UTC) [reply]

Dry Creek Rancheria of Pomo Indians of California

Created by Uyvsdi (talk). Self nom at 02:12, 27 February 2009 (UTC) [reply]

  • Length and date verified. Hook is sourced almost exclusively to the Pomo Indians' webpage, so is not a neutral third-party source. Hook is somewhat misleading, as the webpage does not say that the flooding was caused by the construction of the dam, although that can be inferred. —Mattisse (Talk) 01:31, 2 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Garda ar Lár

Moissaye Joseph Olgin

Created by Pepsi2786 (talk). Self nom at 23:36, 26 February 2009 (UTC) [reply]

  • There's a shorter option, but still slightly over the 200 character limit. I feel the "communist" and "of America", parts are important to making the hook interesting, but removing either would take it under 200 characters. If that exact limit is set in stone, then I suppose the following would be best.. PEPSI2786talk 04:54, 28 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Claud Schuster

Nonnie Moore

  • ... that Nonnie Moore, a woman who had been fashion editor at Mademoiselle and Harper's Bazaar, was hired by GQ in 1984 in a move that was called an "an odd choice, but... was actually the perfect choice"?

5x expanded by Alansohn (talk). Self nom at 19:13, 26 February 2009 (UTC) [reply]

Al-Firdaws Madrasa

Created by Zozo2kx (talk), Al Ameer son (talk). Self nom at 18:22, 26 February 2009 (UTC) [reply]

Saint-André-d'Argenteuil, Quebec

Created by P199 (talk). Self nom at 17:50, 26 February 2009 (UTC) [reply]

Celestina (novel)

Created by Awadewit (talk). Self nom at 15:27, 26 February 2009 (UTC) [reply]

  • Article length and date verified. Editor uses a single source for whole article which is discomforting; would be better if there were more than one source for article of this length, especially a critique. Accept the book source on good faith. —Mattisse (Talk) 21:32, 3 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Mirza Khazar

Created by Brandmeister (talk). Self nom at 11:36, 26 February 2009 (UTC) [reply]

  • Date and referencing all fine (my knowledge of Russian was enough to verify the info from the source), but the article is just a bit below our requirement of 1,500 characters of prose: DYK check reports 1,441 bytes. Consider adding a few sentences, I'm sure you can come up with a few other facts just to meet that requirement :) Todor→Bozhinov 09:11, 27 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Missy Rayder

Created by TonyTheTiger (talk). Self nom at 09:01, 26 February 2009 (UTC) [reply]

Centruroides limbatus and Centruroides bicolor

Created by Boston (talk). Self nom at 07:34, 26 February 2009 (UTC) [reply]

Bangladeshi nationality law

Created/expanded by S h i v a (Visnu) (talk). Self nom at 04:33, 26 February 2009 (UTC) [reply]

Douglas Hamilton

Created by Marcus334 (talk).

The Road West

  • ... that NBC's The Road West featured Andrew Prine and Brenda Scott as a brother and sister though the pair had been briefly married to each other prior to the series debut in 1966?

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 07:53, 27 February 2009 (UTC) [reply]

  • The wording of the first hook is confusing. Were the actors married before the series or were the brother and sister characters married previously in the series timeline? If it's the latter, it's a much more interesting hook than two actors working together that were married. — Bellhalla (talk) 19:16, 3 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Older nominations

  • Nominations must be posted no more than five (5) days after the creation or the beginning of the expansion of each DYK candidate article.


Articles created/expanded on February 25

Nordahl Rolfsen

Created by Oceanh (talk). Self nom at 23:58, 2 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • Length and date verified. Hook source in Norwegian accepted on good faith. SUGGESTION: I think the hook needs a time frame. When was this reader the most widespread schoolbook in Norway? Is it still? —Mattisse (Talk) 01:41, 3 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • The alt hook is fine, and more clear than the original. Good solution, thanks. Rolfsen's books replaced P.A. Jensen's reading (authorized in 1863), and were the standard readings until gradually replaced by Egner's books (published 1950–1972). The cited reference for the hook does not mention the total time span, so it would complicate matters to include in the hook. The reference cited for the publisher says something about the time frame, "the readers stayed central in the school for three quarters of a century". Oceanh (talk) 22:39, 3 March 2009 (UTC).[reply]

Henry Nugent

Created by Rosiestep (talk). Self nom at 23:47, 2 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • Article length and date verified. The statement, "he was created Count of Val de Soto (Conde de Valdesoto) in Spain by Archduke Charles." is not referenced in the article and therefore not verified for hook. Also, the reference for the rest of the hook is a newsletter and therefore not a reliable source.[2] —Mattisse (Talk) 01:18, 3 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Rushmore Memorial Library

Two possibilities:

Sarcophagus of Junius Bassus

5x expanded by Johnbod (talk). Self nom at 06:06, 28 February 2009 (UTC) [reply]

Length and history verified; offline ref accepted IGF. Daniel Case (talk) 17:12, 3 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Aquaculture in New Zealand

Created by Geronimo20 (talk). Self nom at 12:52, 27 February 2009 (UTC) [reply]

Black-headed Spider Monkey

5x expanded by Rlendog (talk). Self nom at 00:00, 26 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

P.S. Article has been altered to reflect the estimated in the source. —Mattisse (Talk) 01:54, 28 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
YES to ALT. Length, ref, history OK. CB...(ö) 07:21, 28 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Does it mean habitat destruction and/or something other? --Snek01 (talk) 10:08, 3 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
"hunting and human encroachment on its range of habitation" —Mattisse (Talk) 20:20, 3 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Frankie Rayder

5x expanded by TonyTheTiger (talk), Sky83 (talk). Nominated by TonyTheTiger (talk) at 23:06, 25 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thomas Dundas (Royal Navy officer)

Created by Benea (talk).

Makoto Kanoh

  • ... that Japanese video game designer Makoto Kanoh worked on the first three Metroid games, a video game series that has gone on to sell over thirteen million copies?

Created by Gary King (talk). Self nom at 21:09, 25 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • (copied directly from source) "Kanoh held the Metroid universe he created for the in original in high regard. He worked on a new chapter only when he felt he could improve the series."
Next sentence: This led to Super Metroid developed to near-perfection. → Source: "As a result, Super Metroid was developed to near perfection."
Short article - needs rewording. —Mattisse (Talk) 00:50, 2 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Should be better now. Gary King (talk) 17:14, 3 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Hook could be improved, as the thirteen million does not pertain specifically to Makoto Kanoh.

Potomac Creek Bridge

The Potomac Creek Bridge as it stood in April 18, 1863.
The Potomac Creek Bridge as it stood in April 18, 1863.

Created/expanded by BaomoVW (talk). Self nom at 20:45, 25 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • Since this is blatant and uncontroversial plagiarism, the nom can be disqualified outright; unless someone takes it under their wing and rewrites it in the next 24 hours or so it's safe to remove. (And if someone does rewrite it so it's usable, standard procedure is not to include credits for the original nominator who plagiarized.) rʨanaɢ talk/contribs 02:40, 4 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

SS Dronning Maud (1925)

Dronning Maud burning after the German air attack.
Dronning Maud burning after the German air attack.
  • ... that in 1940 the unarmed Norwegian steamship Dronning Maud (pictured) was sunk by German aircraft while she was flying Red Cross flags and carrying a company of medical personnel?

Created by Manxruler (talk).

Charles Scherf

Created by Abraham, B.S. (talk). Self nom at 03:37, 25 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yellow Jackets (Indiana)

  • ... that the militia group known as the Yellow Jackets gained their name by having dyed bright yellow cuffs and fringes on their buckskins and wool coats?

Created by Charles Edward (talk). Nominated by Bedford (talk) at 01:32, 25 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'm waiting to see if CE can see if the Yellow Jackets were part of the Indiana Rangers; if so, I'll amend the hook to reflect that. Otherwise, we might have an April Fool's Day hook.--King Bedford I Seek his grace 02:39, 26 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Amended the hook to counter the objection.--King Bedford I Seek his grace 22:18, 1 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The Chisholms

Created by Billy Hathorn (talk). Self nom at 02:28, 26 February 2009 (UTC) [reply]

  • Hook 1 - The first hook has "first episodes". The source only has "Filming Locations:". The extrapolation would be a little much. You could just say that it was filmed there. Ottava Rima (talk) 19:52, 3 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Hook 2 - The second hook is to an offline source and taken in good faith. Ottava Rima (talk)
  • Article - Many of the links don't provide the information stated. See the problem with hook 1 and a problem with others, including the last sentence. There is not enough in the source to back up the summary - "spending so much time" vs "friendship he's struck up" (Article reads - In The Chisholms series finale, "The Siren Song", Minerva, a Baptist, wonders why Bo is spending so much time with a Franciscan priest played by Donnelly Rhodes.) (Source reads - "Minerva, a devout Baptist, is losing her patience with Bo because of the friendship he's struck up with a Franciscan priest."). Some of the wording needs to be fixed so it doesn't go beyond the sources. Ottava Rima (talk) 19:52, 3 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on February 24

Déjanire

Created by Voceditenore (talk). Nominated by nrswanson (talk) at 01:54, 2 March 2009 (UTC) [reply]

Care (Law & Order: UK)

Created by pd THOR (talk). Nominated by Dravecky (talk) at 00:03, 28 February 2009 (UTC) [reply]

  • You couldn't find the fact that it was a remake, or the date it aired? You'll find the former is cited to the episode itself (whose opening credits provide the reference; I can provide a screenshot if so desired), while the latter is at the reference cited: [3], if I'm not mistaken. — pd_THOR | =/\= | 21:26, 1 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
(outdent) I've added a reference to an article from the BBC News (this one) from 23 February 2009 that states "All the scripts are taken from the original Law & Order show but adapted to fit with the British legal system." - Dravecky (talk) 08:08, 3 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Gail Trimble

Created by Bingo99 (talk). Nominated by Ghmyrtle (talk) at 10:51, 26 February 2009 (UTC) [reply]

Deletion debate now closed as keep. Alt hooks:
ALT 1 ... that Gail Trimble, captain of the disqualified Corpus Christi team on BBC TV's University Challenge, has been said to have divided Britain like no other figure since Margaret Thatcher?
ALT 2 ... that Gail Trimble, captain of the team which won BBC TV's University Challenge before being disqualified, has been called the "human Google" and the "Usain Bolt of general knowledge"?
Ghmyrtle (talk) 20:36, 3 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Rothschild Prayerbook

Created by Johnbod (talk). Self nom at 02:05, 26 February 2009 (UTC) [reply]

  • The article length and time frame check out. The article needs to state as of what date the manuscript was the most expensive ever sold, as the article may be read some years from now. Will it still hold true in 2012? As of 2009? (This is assuming the Christie's site is kept current. —Mattisse (Talk) 23:39, 2 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Ok done - it is current, & is not very likely to be broken for some time, especially in the current climate. There are very very few MS of this class in private hands. Johnbod (talk) 05:15, 3 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hurricane Fausto (2008)

Created by Cyclonebiskit (talk). Self nom at 03:23, 25 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on February 23

Land Rover engines

Created by Jozg44 (talk). Nominated by Matthewedwards (talk) at 14:51, 24 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • Well-researched, length good...but the manner of linking, and all the piping, in the hook really confuses me. Can a new hook be written? Perhaps about something different, so that we can avoid all the unintuitive linking. rʨanaɢ talk/contribs 10:15, 3 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on February 22

1967 Kayseri Atatürk Stadium disaster

Template:DYKsuggestion at 13:43, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

  • (Copied from my talk page) Maybe your question should start with "whether" rather than with "why". I really don't know whether the foundation is an expert on football or not, but its aim is declared as to contribute to peace in general. The article I created deals primarly with violence, even in relation with sports. And about the writing: Sorry for my not first-class English. Hoping a linguist wikipedian finds time to copyedit sometime. Cheers.CeeGee (talk) 19:16, 23 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Reliable sources are supposed to come from experts in the field related to the article, so that is why I am asking about sports. I'm not sure what an expertise in peace would mean. Also, I was referring to the poor English of the source, which detracts from its credibility. Awadewit (talk) 14:48, 25 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • I think the source is fine; notice that it is actually a copy of a report from NTV Turkey (ntvmsnbc.com). As for the writing style, a copyedit would be good, but we generally don't disqualify articles for surmountable problems, if the articles are otherwise fine—which means someone should probably just do a quick copyedit of this and be done with it. I don't know if I have the time for it just now, but if it gets to be a big deal and no one has done it within a couple days then maybe. rʨanaɢ talk/contribs 01:04, 2 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oh, I understand now. Sorry about that.
  • Anyway, I think it's just like that because it's an English translation of an article originally written in Turkish. I looked a little closer and, while I don't speak Turkish, it seems apparently that the source you're worried about is a direct translation of reference #1, the NTV Turkey one; I have merged them into the same footnote, since they have the same information, and just introduced the second source as "English translation available at:"... So, for that, I don't think it matters how reliable the publisher is, as it's really just a reading aid for a Turkish source we know to be reliable. rʨanaɢ talk/contribs 14:33, 2 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • I have copyedited about half of the article, and was planning on passing it, but I found that large chunks of the "Match and disaster" section were copied from page 224 of this source. Someone is going to have to go through and verify that all the text in the article is clean. (It will be hard for me to check the Turkish sources, as I can recognize cognates from other Turkic languages here and there but I can't really read it.) rʨanaɢ talk/contribs 14:48, 2 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Tagged it. There's really no point discussing anything here until someone cleans the article up. rʨanaɢ talk/contribs 10:07, 3 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on February 20

Thomas Burch (circuit rider)

Template:DYKsuggestion at 23:48, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

  • The article states "Of those circuit riders assigned to the Canadas in 1812, only Burch and Robert Hibbard managed to get across the border, and Hibbard drowned in the Saint Lawrence River soonafter." - The hook says "riders assigned" and the article focuses on the riders assigned who made it to Canada (a smaller subset). There is some confusion here. The source only mentions the two, Burch and Hibbard, so I'm not sure how amazing it is that Burch survived and Hibbard died. Awadewit (talk) 14:11, 21 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • So far as I know, none were captured by the British. Some were turned away, or didn't bother trying to travel at all (crossing battlefronts is not really a safe or easy task). How's the proscription against orphans. I can very naturally expand Nathan Bangs to include a wikilink across, not sure what else. WilyD 11:44, 3 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I'm told that you need three links to avoid the orphan bots (Mom and Pa and a spare I guess) Victuallers (talk) 17:36, 3 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Special occasion holding area

Articles created/expanded for Saint Patrick's Day 2009 (March 17)

On the Street Where You Live (TV series)


In the Name of the Grandfather


Frank Patterson

Created/expanded by Cottonshirt (talk). Self nom at 05:25, 1 March 2009 (UTC) [reply]


Articles created/expanded for April Fool's Day 2009 (April 1)

Main page: Wikipedia:April Fool's Main Page/Did You Know

Please suggest hooks at Wikipedia:April Fool's Main Page/Did You Know, not here. Royalbroil 14:19, 22 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

See also

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