Talk:Twisted Sister

genres

I took out speed metal. If anyone actually things Twisted Sister are speed metal they're retarded. They're barely heavy metal , more like influence of heavy metal. I think Glam should be added because they did have a glam appearence and they helped influenced glam and were popular when glam was becoming popular. Sure they have their own distinct sand but there are a lot of bands labeled glam metal that only loosely fit and have their own sound aswell.

Should have a seperate section for discography listing albums and singles. ViolentGreen 18:44, 20 July 2005 (UTC)

There ya' go.Someoneinmyheadbutit'snotme 03:43, 31 August 2005 (UTC)

218.141.224.61 22:43, 24 November 2005 (UTC) Cleaned up the second and last paragraphs. Added information about "House of Hair" radio program to last paragraph. 25 November 2005

you should add the lawsuit they filed against six flags kentucky kingdom for their dueling roller coasters "twisted sisters". they won, and the park renamed the coasters "twisted twins"

I wrote a more detailed band history. I tried to include any information from the old version. I removed the clean-up tag. But the article may need a grammar/spelling check by a native english speaker. All informations are from the official TS site or from Jay Jay French via deesnider.com[1] forums.Cyco130 08:10, 28 January 2006 (UTC)

The group had a glam-like image but musically they were closer to classic heavy metal bands such as Judas Priest and Motörhead than the other glam metal/pop metal bands of the era, for example Mötley Crüe, Poison and Ratt.

What is this sentance? Twisted Sister was most of the time not significantly heavier than Ratt or Mötley Crüe. It seems to me this was written by someone that likes Twisted Sister but is ashemed of a prospect of liking a Glam Metal band so he rushes to distance them from their rightful musical relatives.

To anonymous user: I added the sentence because Twisted Sister is cited under Classic metal and not under Glam metal in Wikipedia. It's not my POV. By the way, I do like Twisted Sister but I like also Mötley Crüe, Poison and Ratt :) Cyco130 18:22, 4 February 2006 (UTC)

There's no mention of Twisted sister being "special guests" on Alice Cooper's massive 2005-2006 "Dirty Diamonds" tour! there should be, its not as if they were just a support band or something... :D. I missed my chance to go see that cos of bloody train problems. --KX36 23:50, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

I noticed that twistedsister.com[2] recommends this article as "a really good place to get a capsule history". It proves that we did a good job here. I hope some native english speaker will soon copy-edit the article so that we can get rid of that annoying remark :). Cyco130 03:00, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

It's true. Twisted Sister was never ever Glam Metal. They were just straight Heavy Metal. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.97.141.173 (talk) 09:43, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

Copy edit proposal

Hello Cyco130 and other Twisted Sister editors. I will undertake the copy edit for this article, if you don't object. I have just reworked the "Pre-MTV period" section as an example. I do not see a need to change the structure of this article--just a few sentence movements or combinations here and there. I will begin in a few days, unless you indicate that you'd rather I did not. --The Phantom Blot 20:59, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

Seeing no objections, I've started the copy edit on this article. I just cleaned the "Pre-Dee" section. I will continue working downward, at the rate of one section per day or so. I'll finish with the Introduction. The Phantom Blot 13:40, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

Sorry for the late answer. No objections at all, it's very good! Cyco130 07:07, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

Okay, I have completed the copy edit on this article and removed the tag. Back to you... The Phantom Blot 18:22, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

That's great, thanks a lot! Now we have an almost complete article until the details of the new album become available... Cyco130 16:23, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

Glam Metal

Twisted Sister is not glam metal they are straight foward heavy metal like Motorhead and Judas Priest, and Dee Snider even said they are not glam. So I think we should stop putting it on the infobox.--Cory pratt 18:29, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

-No band will admit they're glam nowadays , DUH. Glam metal is something the media and people constantly make fun of so of course no glam metal bands will really admit they're glam but a few.

No, I'm sorry, they're glam metal. Just because it offends you to call them that doesn't mean they're not in the genre.

I mean hell, if they're not glam metal, then who is? Poison? Cinderella? Ratt? You could make the same exact arguments you're making right now for why Twisted Sister isn't glam metal for those bands. Sorry, but glam metal is a recognized sub-genre of heavy metal and if Twisted Sister can't meet the standards of being classified in it, then I don't know what band can and why the sub-genre even exists. Glam metal musically IS straight forward heavy metal. It's just with the addition of the whole 80s glam image and lyric. --Hippie Metalhead (talk) 00:55, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

We're Not Gonna Take It/Oh Come All Ye Faithful

I was listening to a radio station in Toronto a few weeks ago, and one member of Twisted Sister was on, discussing the Christmas album.

Candidly, he admitted that the chorus of 'We're Not Gonna Take It' is inadvertantly a ripoff of 'Oh Come All Yee Faithful'. As you can see...

"Oh Come Let us Adore him! Oh Come Let us Adore him! Oh Come Let us Adore him, Christ, the Lord!"

"We're Not Gonna Take It! No, we Aint Gonna Take It! We're Not Gonna Take It, Anymore!"

Not only do the schemes of the line match up pretty good, but the melody is the same.

Anyway, I think the wikipedia line about performing 'Oh Come All Ye Faithful' in the style of 'We're Not Gonna Take It' was pretty funny. JimmmyThePiep 23:00, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

Reunion

The infobox says the band have been active from 1997 to date, but the prose itself (which is pretty dreadful) doesn't mention what happaned in 1997. Indeed, the "Reunion" section starts with the one line paragraph "In 1998, the band recorded a song for the soundtrack of Snider's movie Strangeland.". You really ought to be making a little more of the reunion and telling folks about how it came about (especially folks like me who know nothing about the band; we are supposed to be your target audience.) --kingboyk 00:46, 25 February 2007 (UTC) PS If they split up in Oct 87, how can Joey "Seven" Franco have been the drummer 1987-1988?

A further contradiction: This article says A. J. Pero was with the band from 1997; A. J. Pero] says he rejoined in 2002. --kingboyk 13:52, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

I could have sworn that A.J. Pero was the drummer when I used to see TS at Speaks in Island Park, Long Island in the late 70's. I also could have sworn that Kenny was Ken Neill-Harrison, not Harrison-Neill. Maybe my elderly gray cells getting grayer...Ten of Swords 23:28, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Music Videos

The only TS's offical music vidoes I know are

"You Can't Stop Rock'n'Roll" "We're Not Gonna Take It" "I Wanna Rock" "The Price" "Leader Of The Pack" "Be Chrool To Your Scuel" "Hot Love"

Others mentioned on a main page seem absolutely unknown to me.

No answer. Deleted other videos. (Nitrofest 09:02, 7 May 2007 (UTC))

Band Template

In case anyone's interested, I've made a template for the band and added it to all people/albums. Midx1004 19:13, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

External sources and reference links cited.

I have added several external reference links and was thereby able to find support for some of the article's content.--Libertyguy 18:53, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

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missing information on band shows/members

Just thought that I would point out that there is no imformation present about Twisted Sisters appearance at the Rock and Blues festival in Pentrich, Derbyshire, England in the summer of 2005, and no mention of Eddie Ojeda touring with the rock musical 'Vampires Rock' in England throughout 2007. 144.124.16.33 (talk) 20:04, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

First section

"Twisted Sister was formed in December 1972 by guitarist Jay Jay French, and completed its line-up on February 14, 1973, when guitarist Jay Jay French joined a band called Silverstar."

This first line doesn't make sense in light of the rest of the section. It seems Silverstar was formed in 1972, and every other band member left either just before or just after the name change to "Twisted Sister".Ten of Swords (talk) 18:57, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

Better Picture?

Can anyone get a better picture, back from the 1980's when they were big? Maybe one of their many promotional pictures because the one at the top now doesn't look too good and doesn't show the whole band. Logger2010 (talk) 02:29, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

Most '70s & '80s glam rock bands have gone to sell 40 to 50 million?

"Although most '70s and '80s glam rock bands have gone to sell 40 to 50 million CDs and records, Twisted Sister has only sold a little over 11 million."

This is a very strange and vague factoid. "Most" glam rock bands?? Which ones are we talking about? It is my guess that --as in every other genre of music at every time in history-- MOST of the great many of glam rock bands of this era achieved only local successes, local recognition at best, made no significant money, got no recording contracts, and faded even in the memories of their audiences. It is only a VERY small handful of bands that ever have that level of success. So....which glam bands sold that much? David Bowie? T Rex? Gary Glitter? Maybe the sentence should read "most famous 70's and 80's glam bands," but even that seems odd and insufficient.

There is also an almost POV quality to the structuring of this, as if the author is demeaning Twister Sister's achievement by setting it against the achievements of unnamed others. Furthermore, there seems to be debate as to whether Twister Sister is even a "glam band."

Understand, I am not trying to defend Twisted Sister. Actually, I don't care about the band or know if any of the statements on this page are true. (I don't even know how many records they have sold, and the source of this statistic should be cited.) Nonetheless, this sentence seems odd....I am going to change it. Sojambi Pinola (talk) 20:11, 6 March 2009 (UTC)