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== U.S. Constitution in translation ==
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On 6 March 2009 you asked me to merge a page (or a reference to a page). I deleted the reference *1* because I do not yet know how to merge a page *2*. However, the content (minus the reference) remains on the page *3*. Let me know if this change does not fix the problem. –
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[[User:Broadcaster101|Broadcaster101]] ([[User talk:Broadcaster101|talk]]) 06:53, 8 March 2009 (UTC)
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* *1* deleted which reference where? *2* so how would you describe [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=United_States_Constitution&diff=275745617&oldid=274184671 these edits] if they are not merging a page? *3* remains on which page? It helps if you provide links! — [[User:RHaworth|RHaworth]] ([[User talk:RHaworth|Talk]] | [[special:contributions/RHaworth|contribs]]) 07:24, 8 March 2009 (UTC)
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<nowiki>*1*</nowiki> Which reference? At the very top of the Broadcaster 101 subpage there was a sentence that was a link. This sentence appeared above the title, U.S. Constitution in translation. I deleted that first sentence.
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<nowiki>*2*</nowiki> Merging? Whatever I might have done, I would not describe it as merging a page. I deleted the link that appeared at the top of the subpage. I continued to edit both the subpage [[user:Broadcaster101/United States Constitution in translation]] and the corresponding section under the page, [[United States Constitution]].
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<nowiki>*3*</nowiki> Which page? There is content on my subpage, Broadcaster101|U.S. Constitution in translation. This same content appears on the Wikipedia page, United States Constitution, as a separate section. In the table of contents [[United States Constitution]], it is Section 7. I added this section, United States Constitution in translation, because that is what I thought you meant by merging.
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To prepare this reply, I looked again at the page, United States Constitution. I do not see the references to the translations, and I know I put them there. *4* I will correct that. {{unsigned|Broadcaster101}}
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* I wish I had never asked. You leave me more confused than before. Why do you use external format when wikilinks can be used? You need to learn to use the tools that a wiki provides.
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: [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=United_States_Constitution&diff=275745617&oldid=274184671 These edits] constitue "merging" within our usage of the word. And the diff listing shows clearly that you put some "references" in the article. Put you only have to look at the history to see that I [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=United_States_Constitution&diff=275765004&oldid=275745617 took them out] because they seemed quite unnecessary and they were stuffed untidily at the end of the article instead of being integrated with the existing notes and references sections. Why do you think we need your "references"? Various of the translations are at constitutioncenter.org and you have given links to them. What point is there in giving a link to constitutioncenter.org as well? &mdash; [[User:RHaworth|RHaworth]] ([[User talk:RHaworth|Talk]] | [[special:contributions/RHaworth|contribs]]) 01:18, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
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1. Use of external links. After reading your reply, I read the page Help: Link. Here is my answer. I used external links because all the translations except one are at sites outside Wikipedia itself. The one exception is the Thai translation, which I uploaded. In the future will use internal links for uploaded materials.
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2. Use of references. This is why I added references. When I drafted the new section (United States Constitution in translation) on my subpage, I included footnotes. However, the footnotes did not appear when I saved the subpage. To assure that references supported the translations when I edited the page, United States Constitution, I added the references you saw.
--[[User:Broadcaster101|Broadcaster101]] ([[User talk:Broadcaster101|talk]]) 03:57, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

==Deletion of page==
[[University of York Code of Best Practice]].

Firstly, it's not a dormitory in any respect of the word. It's the code of best practice for letting agents in the city. Secondly, there is a lot of contention over the content and it has been coming up recently in heated arguments between the university and letting agencies. Thirdly, it is not protected by copyright. The code is notable, in the news and a perfectly acceptable article. There are a lot like it and I've written several myself that have been accepted without problem. And it took me 2 hours to write the thing! Thanks [[User:Kypzethdurron|Kypzethdurron]] ([[User talk:Kypzethdurron|talk]]) <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|undated]] comment added 13:38, 9 March 2009 (UTC).</span><!--Template:Undated--> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
* I know it's not a dormitory manual but it is still utterly unencyclopedic. Whaddya mean took you two hours to write? How much of it did you write? I have e-mailed you the text but this is an encyclopedia. Your article was source material not encyclopedia material. You have described it [[University of York#Support for off-campus accomodation|here]] - that is all the topic needs. &mdash; [[User:RHaworth|RHaworth]] ([[User talk:RHaworth|Talk]] | [[special:contributions/RHaworth|contribs]]) 13:55, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

==Mifsud==

Your comments about the profile that a friend has posted on the encyclopedia and which you condier a hoax is a bit didturbing to say the least and I did not realize that my life contained more than the above average series of activities that broght me before public attention. I am amazed at the vague insinuation that I might be some sort of ghost. I know it is difficult for people who have hardly ever made a social contribution other than purely academic and on a general level, to accept life histories like mine. I challenge you however to prove that any of it is false or even mildly exaggerated. YOu will find some of my articles in articlesbase.com under my name MICHAEL CHARLES MIFSUD CANILLA.--[[User:Spiralmif|Spiralmif]] ([[User talk:Spiralmif|talk]]) 20:32, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
* On the contrary, we require you to prove that there is even one grain of truth in the [[Michael Mifsud Canilla]] article. &mdash; [[User:RHaworth|RHaworth]] ([[User talk:RHaworth|Talk]] | [[special:contributions/RHaworth|contribs]]) 20:47, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

== [[Robert Fourer]] ==

A while ago you speedy deleted this page, after or while I was removing the speedy, maybe an edit conflict. Many consider "Full Prof at Northwestern" enough to avoid A7, and in any case I think the article, even in its state then, would probably pass an AfD. (His top cited (coauthored) work has over 1,000 gscholar hits, a very high number.) So I was wondering if you'd consider undeletion and AfD if you think it necessary. Regards,[[User:John Z|John Z]] ([[User talk:John Z|talk]]) 23:03, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
* There has never been an article on this title! What I deleted was a [[Résumé|CV]] (apparently Americans don't use that term!) and probably a copyvio from his own website. I have e-mailed you the full text. There is nothing worth undeleting - start again from scratch. &mdash; [[User:RHaworth|RHaworth]] ([[User talk:RHaworth|Talk]] | [[special:contributions/RHaworth|contribs]]) 23:14, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for replying and emailing, but as there is no speedy deletion criterion based on being a CV, I still believe it shouldn't have been deleted as an A7. I checked and you are right it is mostly a copyvio of his site's CV pdf. He did write a first sentence, which I would have stubbed it to. Articles on academics are often not all that much more than CV's, formatted differently. The possibility of alienating a possible productive future contributor is worth consideration. I'll recreate it eventually. Cheers,[[User:John Z|John Z]] ([[User talk:John Z|talk]]) 05:31, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
* It is also worth considering whether a self-promoter who clearly has no idea what an encyclopedia is should be given any encouragement whatsoever. &mdash; [[User:RHaworth|RHaworth]] ([[User talk:RHaworth|Talk]] | [[special:contributions/RHaworth|contribs]]) 08:18, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

== [[Roseworldoak:Youthful Influx Dimensions]] ==

Thanks for "saving me the embarrassment of having it discussed at AFD" when I didn't put it up for AFD. It was PRODed. [[User:Killiondude|Killiondude]] ([[User talk:Killiondude|talk]]) 09:10, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

==NeoTokyo==
Hey, you deleted and protected the [[NeoTokyo]] article, but we have a disambiguation page at [[Neo Tokyo]]. So it might not be a bad idea to redirect it there.--[[User:Sloane|Sloane]] ([[User talk:Sloane|talk]]) 16:47, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
* True. Done. &mdash; [[User:RHaworth|RHaworth]] ([[User talk:RHaworth|Talk]] | [[special:contributions/RHaworth|contribs]]) 16:55, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
Awesome, thanks. -- [[User:Sloane|Sloane]] ([[User talk:Sloane|talk]]) 19:01, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
* Not "awesome" - just routine. I always say that "awesome" along with "cool", "gay" and "douche" are words you can scan for during new page patrolling to pick up {{tl|nn-bio}} and {{tl|db-attack}} candidates! &mdash; [[User:RHaworth|RHaworth]] ([[User talk:RHaworth|Talk]] | [[special:contributions/RHaworth|contribs]]) 19:09, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

== [[html reader]] ==

Why do you think it was a weird article? Do you not study [[computer science]] (CS)? The term 'html reader' is used in CS to mean things <i>other</i> than a web browser. Though I wrote it from a CS viewpoint that does not necessarily make it weird, and it does not matter if it is. The only thing that would make it <i>wrong</i> is if what I stated was incorrect. I gave examples of how the term is used otherwise as I stated. I suggest it be returned and if you think it is 'weird,' then rewrite it.--[[User:Dchmelik|Dchmelik]] ([[User talk:Dchmelik|talk]]) 20:50, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
: I am sorry, but I found your article confused and confusing and I saw no "examples of how the term is used". "Some html readers read older URL protocols" - things like telnet & gopher I presume. If they do that, would it not be better to call them internet browsers rather than html readers? "People that strongly prefer succint communication often write 'html reader'". A) should that not be 'people who' rather than 'people that'? B) What on earth are you talking about - 'html reader' and 'web browser' are both eleven characters long? What is "variable-width html"?

: Please give me one example of an html reader which cannot be called a web browser - preferably one which I can download for free and run under Windows 98. &mdash; [[User:RHaworth|RHaworth]] ([[User talk:RHaworth|Talk]] | [[special:contributions/RHaworth|contribs]]) 02:13, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

== Glassy State ==

Hi RHaworth. On 13 March [[User:Logger9]] created a new article titled "Glassy State". It appears to have been a commendable effort as the article comprised 34,500 bytes. However, on the same day you re-directed "Glassy State" to an existing article, [[Glass]]. I hope you intend to contact [[User talk:Logger9]] to explain the rationale for your action. That would be consistent with the spirit of Wikipedia. Best regards. [[User:Dolphin51|Dolphin51]] ([[User talk:Dolphin51|talk]]) 01:20, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
: My policy in a case like this is that it I think it is perfectly obvious why I have done the redirect so no message is needed but if Logger9 asks me, I will give a prompt explanation. You see this policy operating above - I redirected [[html reader]] without telling Dchmelik. They have asked me, so they get a response. In any case, I see that Logger9 has taken the hint and is editing [[glass]]. &mdash; [[User:RHaworth|RHaworth]] ([[User talk:RHaworth|Talk]] | [[special:contributions/RHaworth|contribs]]) 02:13, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

I am deeply disappointed in your response. It seems so selfish. You refer to '''your''' policy. There are policies that have been agreed across the WP community for the good of Wikipedia. No-one is particularly interested in the personal policies of individual users. You also say '''you''' think it is perfectly obvious why you have done this. Let me assure you it is not perfectly obvious. It is not even obvious. It is not even a little bit obvious. (Your attempt at defense of your action has failed.)

Logger9 has asked me if I can explain what it happened to his article, and I have asked you to explain it to him. I am now asking you a second time. Will you please write to Logger9 and explain why you effectively hid his contribution by creating a re-direct? Now is a good time to demonstrate the good-will and community spirit that makes Wikipedia such a wonderful instrument. [[User:Dolphin51|Dolphin51]] ([[User talk:Dolphin51|talk]]) 00:16, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
: Done. You may have to check the talk page history to see it. &mdash; [[User:RHaworth|RHaworth]] ([[User talk:RHaworth|Talk]] | [[special:contributions/RHaworth|contribs]]) 04:31, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

::Thank you for doing that. I have worked through the Logger9's history page and I see that you have provided him (her) with an explanation of your action. Logger9 is an enthusiastic newbie and your explanation will assist him in maturing as a WP editor; a process we must all go through. [[User:Dolphin51|Dolphin51]] ([[User talk:Dolphin51|talk]]) 22:53, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

:::The article [[Glassy state]] should not exist and your redirect to [[Glass]] was the appropriate action. The author is simply trying to publish their own essays on the subject and is making a curently making a complete mess of the article [[Glass]] - there are two problems (i) they are trying to publish extensive essays that they have written on the subject and are ineffect trying to replace the current content and (ii) they keep bloody copy and pasting material from all over wikipedia and adding it to the article. This is wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong - but there is absolutely nothing I can do about it - please see [[talk:Glass]] for numerous issues I have raised which are all being completely disregarded. [[User:Jdrewitt|Jdrewitt]] ([[User talk:Jdrewitt|talk]]) 10:46, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

::::Hi Jdrewitt! Thank you for your efforts in helping Logger9 understand the thinking that lies behind a collaborative document like Wikipedia. Communicating clearly with a user, particularly a newbie, may not be very effective in the short term but it is very powerful in the long term. In contrast, cancelling a newbie's work is effective in the short term but has little long-term value. Your effort at communicating is commendable. [[User:Dolphin51|Dolphin51]] ([[User talk:Dolphin51|talk]]) 22:58, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

:::::Hi - it's frustrating - I have tried though, as have others. Logger9 has put a lot of effort into their contributions - this is the frustrating part - cos we don't want their efforts to go to waste - but we also need to find a way that we can include their contributions without compromising the quality of the articles themselves - we have all got a bit frustrated over this but at the end of the day have been acting in the best interests of wikipedia. Hopefully not too much damage has been done and Logger9 will actually see that we genuinly were trying to help. [[User:Jdrewitt|Jdrewitt]] ([[User talk:Jdrewitt|talk]]) 08:59, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

==[[Alfred Reynolds]] move==
Thanks for your advice and apologies for not doing it properly. [[User:Marshall46|Marshall46]] ([[User talk:Marshall46|talk]])

== [[User:Logger9/Physics_of_Glass|Physics of Glass]] ==

Hi, there is just a discussion going on about an article similar to the one you had recently problems with ([[Glassy state]]) at the [[Talk:Glass#Logger9:_Physics_of_Glass|talk page of the article ''Glass'']]. I do not have problems with the proposed article, but if you have, it would be nice to mention them. Thank you... --[[User:Afluegel|Afluegel]] ([[User talk:Afluegel|talk]]) 20:52, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

:I still do - I asked for the problems that have been raised with the article be dealt with at Logger9's sandbox FIRST - but this is yet another of my requests that has been ignored. I am keeping out of it now and you won't hear much from me whilst I am on my wikibreak. But it would be nice to see some of the policy problems that have been raised are dealt with - Not to mention the fact that a glass is not a supercooled liquid - it is a solid formed from a supercooled liquid, so this part of the physics is wrong - I have numerous references to back this up including references 2, 3 and 4 currently cited in [[Glass]] - Elliot, Cusack and Zallen - extremely important texts that extensively deal with the Physics of Glass.[[User:Jdrewitt|Jdrewitt]] ([[User talk:Jdrewitt|talk]]) 21:12, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

::The size of the article should be not above 400kB, if it is independent. The notion that glass is a solid formed from a supercooled liquid and not just a supercooled liquid must be notet in the article, because all views should be given in an encyclopedia. Sure, the article still has a textbook character ([[WP:NOTTEXTBOOK]]), but Logger9 must chance to work on it over time.--[[User:Afluegel|Afluegel]] ([[User talk:Afluegel|talk]]) 21:35, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

*[[Tinyportal]] I wanted to develop resources. excuse me.--[[User:Turkyucel|Turkyucel]] ([[User talk:Turkyucel|talk]]) 23:34, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

== Could you please explain more fully... ==

The deletion log states you closed an expired {{tl|prod}} for [[Ensuring Lawful Interrogations]] on 2009-1-23. Aren't prods supposed to run for five days? How could a prod placed on an article about an Executive Order that was only signed on 2009-1-22 -- one day earlier, have already expired on 2009-1-23?

I won't claim to be an expert on executive orders. But I did start a dozen or so articles about them. And a wikistalker I used to have nominated some of them for
deletion. Now this was several years ago, but it seemed to me that the consensus from those discussions was that executive orders were innately notable. I know consensus can change. Has this consensus changed in the years since then? [[User:Geo Swan|Geo Swan]] ([[User talk:Geo Swan|talk]]) 19:42, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
* I could perhaps have given a slightly different reason but I feel that "simple regurgitation of an executive order: unencyclopedic" was sufficient reason for speedy deletion. I could also have cited the reason as "copyvio from [http://washingtonindependent.com/26836/executive-order-ensuring-lawful-interrogations this press release]" but it probably counts as a US govt document and is therefore public domain. It was primarary source material and did not belong in an encyclopedia. &mdash; [[User:RHaworth|RHaworth]] ([[User talk:RHaworth|Talk]] | [[special:contributions/RHaworth|contribs]]) 19:54, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

== Talon Marks, a student newspaper ==

Yesterday, I tried to create an article for the student newspaper that I am the online editor for. It was speedily deleted, and I feel it was wrongfully so.

I searched for other California student newspapers and found several. [[The Orion (California State University, Chico)]] and the [[The Advocate (Contra Costa College)]], among others, have Wikipedia pages.

Thank you for your time. I understand that you want to weed out the garbage that people submit here. The [[Talon Marks]] isn't one of those though. It is a multiple award-winning newspaper. It has the No. 1 community college publication Web site in California.

I will find a list of JACC awards the publication has won. And the only evidence of the Web site being the best is the word of one of the JACC board members. It has won the general excellence award for the online edition for years, but that is an unranked award. <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:NOTLWolfie|NOTLWolfie]] ([[User talk:NOTLWolfie|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/NOTLWolfie|contribs]]) 05:30, 21 March 2009 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

I have added links. Please consider allowing the Talon Marks to have the same privilege the Advocate has.

I am not trying to make arrogant claims here. I am trying to add an article to inform others with information about the Talon Marks.<small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:NOTLWolfie|NOTLWolfie]] ([[User talk:NOTLWolfie|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/NOTLWolfie|contribs]]) 21:02, 20 March 2009 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
* Firstly, given your blatant [[WP:COI|COI]], you should not be writing about the newspaper at all. Have the modesty to leave it to someone else to decide that the newspaper is notable. But if you persist and add your text to the [[Cerritos College]] article, I may well leave it untouched. But you will certainly have to provide evidence to support your arrogant claim that "it has the No. 1 community college publication Web site in California". Whenever I see the phrase "award winning", I retch: what I expect is a sentence beginning "it has won the following awards" - and list them - with evidence. &mdash; [[User:RHaworth|RHaworth]] ([[User talk:RHaworth|Talk]] | [[special:contributions/RHaworth|contribs]]) 03:14, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
* Let us first see if it sticks in the College article. And we <u>do not<u> want the staff list! &mdash; [[User:RHaworth|RHaworth]] ([[User talk:RHaworth|Talk]] | [[special:contributions/RHaworth|contribs]]) 07:12, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

== [[Sharai parda]] ==

Can you create this article, mark it as patrolled, and delete it immediately? There is a bug with the newpage patrol backlog listing that prevents anyone from marking it as patrolled, yet it populates of articles to patrol. --<span style="background:#CC1010;color:#FFA0A0">'''&nbsp;Blanchardb'''&nbsp;</span>-<small><sup><span style="color:#A62428">[[User:Blanchardb|Me]]•[[User Talk:Blanchardb|MyEars]]•[[Special:Contributions/Blanchardb|MyMouth]]</span></sup></small>- timed 00:35, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
* You are too impatient. Did you check [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&hide_patrol_log=0&page=sharai+parda the log] before you went off and asked someone else? As it happened I got called away before I could reply here. As well as complying with your request, I have reported it [https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16950 here at Bugzilla]. &mdash; [[User:RHaworth|RHaworth]] ([[User talk:RHaworth|Talk]] | [[special:contributions/RHaworth|contribs]]) 03:29, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

== [[Hamilton Street Circuit]] ==

A new user is making these edits, i'm thinking it would help if you explained your reversions. Thanks. --[[User:Falcadore|Falcadore]] ([[User talk:Falcadore|talk]]) 21:24, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
* Is [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AClarecolin&diff=279559364&oldid=279486495 this message] sufficient or do I need to say more? &mdash; [[User:RHaworth|RHaworth]] ([[User talk:RHaworth|Talk]] | [[special:contributions/RHaworth|contribs]]) 22:33, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

::Apologies, missed it since it was under the heading of another article. Will say no further since it appears you've crossed swords with this editor before and I'd assumed this was a first time editor since their previous entries have been on deleted articles and the edit history was otherwise blank. --[[User:Falcadore|Falcadore]] ([[User talk:Falcadore|talk]]) 23:44, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

==[[operated equipment rental]]==
I'm a new contributor and you've changed the title to be sentence case, which is great, but could you tell me how to do it myself please, as if I use the create page option it always seems to create it with capitals. {{unsigned|Aardvark1685}}
* The only reason capitals are appearing in titles is because you have typed the title with capitals! See [http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Rental_relocation&diff=280057782&oldid=280056407 this edit] and note: lots spurious capitals corrected, the first char of a title is case-insensitive, use spaces not underscores in links - no need to pipe. There is a probationary period for new users but I think you will now be able to see a "move" tab at the top of every article - that is how you change a title. &mdash; [[User:RHaworth|RHaworth]] ([[User talk:RHaworth|Talk]] | [[special:contributions/RHaworth|contribs]]) 18:57, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

== Orphan/dead end ==

Something about AWB is borked, they are fixing it. ''[[User:Rich Farmbrough|Rich]] [[User talk:Rich Farmbrough|Farmbrough]]'', 14:45 28 March 2009 (UTC).

==[[fantasybaseballarbitration.com]]==
Hi I am spdevry4 and I am a student at [[DeVry University|DeVry]] in Pomona I need to create a 3rd party article on this particular website because it is my assignment on a new avenue for the fantasy sports phenomena, this website seems to be the one that will become popular maybe I do not know but it does have a national journal and a good gimmick. The fantasy sports industry has over 27 Million participants so and I play fantasy sports myself so I like the subject. Should I wait to see more news articles on the matter? or should I rewrite the article to keep it minimal? any suggestions? [[User:Spdevry4|Spdevry4]] ([[User talk:Spdevry4|talk]]) 23:36, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
* I suggest you allow the article to be deleted here. By all means publish it on your own or the university's website. If the site achieves any degree of notabilty, an article might be accepted some time in the future. &mdash; [[User:RHaworth|RHaworth]] ([[User talk:RHaworth|Talk]] | [[special:contributions/RHaworth|contribs]]) 02:04, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

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