Talk:Stations of the Cross

the stations of the cross is also called the way of the cross. it is when Jesus has:

1. The cross laid upon him
2. His first fall
3. He meets His Blessed Mother
4. Simon of Cyrene is made to bear the
5. He meets the women of Jerusalem
6. His third fall
7. He is stripped of His garments
8. His crucifixion
9. His death on the cross on good Friday
10. His body taken down from the cross
11. His body is laid in tomb

Methodist Tradition

• A local United Methodist church in my area is doing Stations of the Cross this year (they call them "stops" though), this might be useful information, but I wonder if this is common to other Methodists? http://www.belmontumc.org/index.htm

Methodists are weird

Or perhaps this is the beginning of a new (old) tradition?

Another thought about the stations and tradition

I found out by studying the Bible, that there is no record of Jesus falling during his passion recorded in the scriptures. Now if we believe that the Scripture is the record from God to man about himself, then where does this information come from? I wrote a song since Tradition makes the Word of God of no affect according to Jesus Christ, my Saviour. You can listen at http://www.myspace.com/marcusrmusic.

here are the words:

Jesus never fell

Jesus never fell, on his way to Calvary, He bore the sin as only God could do. He died upon the cross, to set me free, I was in the fire, but he saved my soul.

Praise Him for the Bible that stands the test. Praise Him for the only Word of God. I was in the fire, but Jesus never fell, He saved me for eternity.

Adam was in the garden and tempted sore He fell beneath the load of sin In Adam's fall, we sinned all But Jesus never fell on the way to Calvary

The Bible never said that Jesus fell on the way God never said that about his Son, Jesus never fell under the weight of our sin, But he carried them all to Calvary.

Now to Him that is able to keep you from falling And present you faultless before God. Your garments are spotted with flesh and sin you are in the fire, so call on Him today.

Praise Him for the Bible that stands the test. Praise Him for the only Word of God. You are in the fire, but Jesus never fell, He’ll save you for eternity.

You are in the fire, but Jesus never fell, He’ll save you for eternity.

thnx for listenning bye<3

some lines from book of Jude and one from New England Primer 2004

Marcusoliver 21:54, 9 April 2007 (UTC)marcus oliver

Well, that's very lovely but it doesn't really belong in Wikipedia, which is an encyclopedia. You may be interested to read about Sacred Tradition, which explains why Catholics do not consider it a problem that some things they believe are not specified in the Bible. Basically, it goes along the lines of "Lots of people witnessed the things that went on, and lots of people told others about what went on. After a while, some of those people started writing some of the things down, but not every little detail got written down, since that wasn't the purpose of the gospels. Some of these things come down to us in Holy Tradition, having been told to people down the centuries.". Roman Catholicism teaches that the Bible is not the only source of Divine Revelation. :) Skittle 01:49, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

Alternate forms - Including the resurrection

I have added a Citation Request to this section. Who does this (what faiths) and where, in what nations? Please state this in the text and cite your source. Merci. Charvex (talk) 06:35, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

Hebrews 10:10

An editor keeps adding the phrase "See Hebrews 10:10" with no explanation, not as a reference or anything else. I have reverted it (a couple times) because it doesn't really fit in an encyclopedia. Marauder40 (talk) 13:05, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

You are right. I also reverted that edit a few days ago. Here is the sentence anyway [1]. It does not fit, and it is the only edit that user account has ever done. Does not seem like a serious edit to me either. History2007 (talk) 13:56, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

He did it again. I warned on the user page as borderline semi-vandalism. History2007 (talk) 20:09, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

I was going to put a comment on the page also until I noticed that it was another new IP address. It seems every time this editor does it they use a different IP address. It is only recently that they actually used a user account. Marauder40 (talk) 20:15, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

People usually use dynamic IPs to avoid being recognized. We really need that database of questionable edits. I will try to work on that more. Cheers History2007 (talk) 20:17, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

Link Farm

I think the External links section of this article is becoming a link farm. I understand people having links to multiple versions/depictions of the Stations but I think it is becoming too much. Any ideas on how we should trim the numbers down and determine which are appropriate and which aren't? Marauder40 (talk) 16:52, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

Artistic Depiction May Be Inaccurate

Religious art and tradition depicts the Stations of the Cross as a march through Jerusalem on the way to the crucifixion. In my view, this seems highly unlikely. Execution was a quick and efficient business for the Romans, and to allow a prisoner to march through the streets, where his followers might be, waiting to cause a revolt or a riot, would not have been a prudent thing for the Romans to do.

I think the following scenario (which preserves the 14 Stations) is a more realistic description of what probably happened:

Jesus is condemned to death (Station 1). He is then stripped naked and scourged, which was the preliminary to crucifixion. Its purpose was to weaken the prisoner's resistance and also to hasten his death on the cross. The Roman scourging was not limited to the Jewish rule of "forty save one," because the Romans did not follow Jewish law. The only limitation was that the prisoner had to be alive when it was over, so that he could be crucified. Following the scourging, Jesus is offered His cross (Station 2), but is too weak to carry it and falls (Station 3). At this point, his mother is in the crowd (Station 4) and demands that assistance be provided to him. They spot Simon coming in from the fields and press him into service carrying the cross (station 5). At this point, a woman named Veronica wipes Jesus' face (Station 6). Jesus tries to get up, but severely weakened from the flogging He has just received, falls again (Station 7). The women of Jerusalem offer Him narcotics, but he refuses (Station 8). A third attempt to get is also unsuccessful (Station 9). At this point, the exasperated Romans throw some clothes on Him, drag Him to the execution scene, strip off His clothes (Station 10), and nail Him to the Cross (Station 11). Jesus dies on the cross (Station 12), is taken down (Station 13), and is placed in the tomb (Station 14).

John Paul Parks (talk) 07:22, 3 December 2008 (UTC) John Paul Parks (talk) 14:05, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

Suggestion, go into a local church and check